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Mayday Air Disaster S01 E03
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@uomodonore245
@uomodonore245 3 месяца назад
I live in Nova Scotia. There was a co-worker at a job I had in the 2000's that had volunteered to assist in the recovery effort. He said he has never been the same since. The sight of recovering the body parts traumatized him. He has struggled with mental health issues ever since and talks to a psychiatrist regularly, he also said he has frequent nightmares from what he saw.
@jacquelynskye295
@jacquelynskye295 3 месяца назад
That's horrible. Sounds like the 9/11 first responders if not worse. I don't want to imagine what your co-worker experienced and saw. Imagine all the people involved in that situation and the negative affects on them. 😢
@cayman9873
@cayman9873 3 месяца назад
Ptsd. Is quite real and painful to deal with.. my bad ptsd. Has been destroying my life I am sorry for people that also have these issues..❤❤
@frankyhonnolus5528
@frankyhonnolus5528 3 месяца назад
Some people are just soft. I would have not enjoyed seeing gruesome stuff either but I would have been just fine a few weeks later.
@arcticgoddess
@arcticgoddess 3 месяца назад
​@frankyhonnolus5528 Oh stop, "tough guy". We know the science on PTSD. It has nothing to do with mental strength and conditioning.
@frankyhonnolus5528
@frankyhonnolus5528 3 месяца назад
@@arcticgoddess Yeah but, you’re not guaranteed to go through PTSD. If you do then yes science tells you it can mess you up. Generally speaking Americans get horrified and devastated too easily. I’ve seen numerous horrible images of dead soldiers in Middle East and Ukraine. Sure they were just “pictures”, but I didn’t lose a pint of appetite. Some people just deal w/ it better.
@galacticambitions1277
@galacticambitions1277 3 месяца назад
It was noble of the ATC guy to agree to be interviewed.
@User_92020
@User_92020 Месяц назад
@galacticambitions1277 He's partly at fault though
@atavachronwemberley1744
@atavachronwemberley1744 Месяц назад
@@User_92020 What are you talking about? The crew unfortunately failed to grasp the seriousness of the situation. They didn’t give ATC ANY indication that they were in an emergency situation until it was far too late. Swissair’s ludicrously long ‘checklists’ are as much at fault as anything else
@mnztr1
@mnztr1 28 дней назад
@@User_92020 I don't think so, they had sealed their fate that that point. Even if he had given them immediate vectors it was too late.
@dashcan8479
@dashcan8479 26 дней назад
Yeah given that he tried to absolve himself of his incompetency. If you have a fire onboard, LAND. LAND the JET will not break apart. You must land, Pilots and ATC caused this disaster 100% and killed 350.
@ryancarlson8959
@ryancarlson8959 18 дней назад
​@@dashcan8479 229 killed but yeah same idea
@jesterr7133
@jesterr7133 2 месяца назад
I lost a close friend to suicide a few years ago. I spoke to him the night before, and something seemed like it wasn't right. I have run that conversation through my head hundreds of times over the years wondering if there was anything I could have done differently. I can only imagine what Mr.Pickerell has gone though over the years. Even if you know nothing could have been done differently, your mind always searches for a way, and it is impossible to find peace. My heart goes out to him.
@dana102083
@dana102083 2 месяца назад
Im sorry fornyour loss. Bargaining can be very difficult. Im a nurse and ive been there in many situations of 'could Inhave acted differently for a different outcome'. Please take care of yourself.xx
@Katerina-hl5lq
@Katerina-hl5lq 2 месяца назад
They are grey worked hard all. T life where there is want there is a way 28:09
@johncenator3146
@johncenator3146 2 месяца назад
@@jesterr7133 Only Jesus Christ can save
@robertsandberg2246
@robertsandberg2246 Месяц назад
@@johncenator3146 Amen. 🙏 There's so much that I don't understand in this world and in this life, but the one solid rock I cling to is the fact that Jesus Saves.
@dokudicted
@dokudicted Месяц назад
fake
@dennis12dec
@dennis12dec 3 месяца назад
The Swiss tennis player Marc Rosset was supposed to be on that ill-fated flight following his first round exit at the US Open that year but changed his plans in the last minute and stayed in New York for a little longer and notified his coach that he needs more practice, when the news of the crash hit home in Geneva he phoned his family and friends while watching the news on TV from his hotel room that he's still in New York alive and in good shape. Change of plans could save your life.
@motherofthreeb6337
@motherofthreeb6337 3 месяца назад
It wasn't his time.
@AnetaMihaylova-d6f
@AnetaMihaylova-d6f 3 месяца назад
​@motherofthreeb6337 nicely said . When your time comes you will notice 😊
@Nebulousss
@Nebulousss 3 месяца назад
those same change of plans could get you killed
@jalilmuhammad8270
@jalilmuhammad8270 3 месяца назад
The same with R&B singer Patti Austin on September 11, 2001. She was planning to fly on United Airlines Flight 93 (a 5-year-old Boeing 757-200 built in 1996 and took off from Newark Liberty International Airport enroute to San Francisco and crashed in Shanksville, Pennsylvania) that day, but an impending stroke suffered by her mother changed plans, prompting Patti to cancel her ticket to that flight.
@theontologist
@theontologist 3 месяца назад
Others changed their plans and were on that flight as a result.
@freddyconsoli975
@freddyconsoli975 3 месяца назад
I’ve seen this a couple of times and this one shakes me up because I knew two very nice people that were on that plane. I sold the man two vehicles in the 90’s. Super nice guy. He would always come to my desk and hang out when in for service and his wife ran a doctors office and my wife saw the doctor and I took her a couple of times. We weren’t best friends but it shook me to this day. Very nice couple. R.I.P. Don and Diane Sheer 😢
@MsKimmy1234
@MsKimmy1234 3 месяца назад
I’m sorry. It’s definitely affected so many people around the world 😢
@robertsandberg2246
@robertsandberg2246 Месяц назад
😢
@ifrahabi4834
@ifrahabi4834 Месяц назад
It’s sad to know one of the victims. We are all dead people walking. Sorry to hear that. The best people always dies and leave us
@freddyconsoli975
@freddyconsoli975 Месяц назад
@@ifrahabi4834 thank you, friend. You’re very kind. As I stated, we weren’t the best of friends but it shook me, knowing them both. He was a scientist and was going to some conference in Geneva, Switzerland. Super nice people, maybe in their 40’s. Shame.
@LauraiRoss
@LauraiRoss 3 месяца назад
What an amazing technique they used to find that single little piece of wire at the bottom of the sea that caused the fire!
@phongnguy6672
@phongnguy6672 2 месяца назад
@LauraiRoss they knew where the fire started from that point they could zoom in and look for anything that can start the fire
@MapleMayhemGaming
@MapleMayhemGaming 3 месяца назад
I was 3 when SwissAir 111 went down - mom told me when the plane hit the water she thought it was a loud clap of thunder. Another relative was on one of those Navy vessels that responded. They weren’t recovering full bodies. They were recovering parts. I can’t even imagine.
@KRLE2582
@KRLE2582 3 месяца назад
horrible fate for those poor souls on that flight!.
@bigdee8189
@bigdee8189 3 месяца назад
​@@KRLE2582- may God have mercy on their souls....in the holy name of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior. AMEN
@MapleMayhemGaming
@MapleMayhemGaming 3 месяца назад
@@mrsx7944 stop trolling.
@theultimatereductionist7592
@theultimatereductionist7592 3 месяца назад
​@@mrsx7944 Agreed. You're addressing bigdee and their smug arrogant insensitivity shoving their political religious views into everyone else's experiences, right? Agreed.
@mrsx7944
@mrsx7944 3 месяца назад
@@theultimatereductionist7592 No. I'm addressing the OP. And one comment isn't forcing religious views on you lol. Are you that weak minded that a comment by a total stranger has that much control over you? ?😂😂😂 And there was nothing "political" about the comment. Nice try.
@taylorhughes6003
@taylorhughes6003 3 месяца назад
I go to the memorial every so often in Peggy’s cove😢 it’s such a tragedy. Rest in peace to those lost. We haven’t forgotten ❤
@HellStr82
@HellStr82 3 месяца назад
And yet you did forget. You're still flying Boeing.
@taylorhughes6003
@taylorhughes6003 3 месяца назад
@@HellStr82 WHAT? Where did u see I’m flying anywhere??
@taylorhughes6003
@taylorhughes6003 3 месяца назад
@@HellStr82 this memorial is accessible, by my car, in Halifax, where I live.
@HiddenWindshield
@HiddenWindshield 3 месяца назад
@@taylorhughes6003 Just ignore the trolls. Engaging with them never helps, and if you ignore them, they'll eventually go away.
@taylorhughes6003
@taylorhughes6003 3 месяца назад
@@HiddenWindshield ahahah I’m just genuinely confused where they’re getting this information from 😂😂 I am tired of people
@MsKimmy1234
@MsKimmy1234 3 месяца назад
That crash was so shocking and sad. Every time I drive out to Peggy’s Cove I always visit the memorial. God bless those poor souls 🙏🏻
@jaywhoisit4863
@jaywhoisit4863 3 месяца назад
These days protocol dictates if smoke is detected, the flight must immediately divert to the nearest airport. They don’t waste a precious second. I guess lessons were learned from this tragedy.
@rouke3254
@rouke3254 3 месяца назад
says in the video that they would not have made it anyway, but I mean that should have been common sense protocol probable was suggested at first but opted for whatever would cause the least amount of damage to revenue.
@willzimjohn
@willzimjohn 3 месяца назад
From the time the smoke was first detected to loss of instruments was about 15 minutes and 21 minutes to impact. No matter how directly they'd tried to land, there wouldn't have been enough time. However, if they'd had, say, a little extra time, those delays may have factored in. It certainly points out how quickly things can turn to disaster and you how you need to get the plane on the ground.
@beckylynn209
@beckylynn209 3 месяца назад
Ya, they started doing that after this happened.. 🤨
@nga839
@nga839 2 месяца назад
@@rouke3254 it doesnt say that it says if they didnt waste time in the air and landed immediately. They detected the smoke late if there was a detector they definitely would have made it
@rouke3254
@rouke3254 2 месяца назад
@@nga839 39:30 says they would have never made it because the fire would have taken out the ability of the pilots to fly the plane.
@Albertan1984
@Albertan1984 3 месяца назад
My dad was just about sent out to this air crash to search and rescue for survivors but then was told to stand down due to it was a recovery mission my dad was a Canadian military combat medic both armed/unarmed, flight medic, and a field medic when we lived in Trenton, Ontario, Canada 1998
@anon-wr3dh
@anon-wr3dh 3 месяца назад
Wow. Sound like a cool dad.
@Albertan1984
@Albertan1984 3 месяца назад
@anon-wr3dh he is I grew up in a very big military family from both sides of the border US and Canadian
@LucasBoss6354
@LucasBoss6354 Месяц назад
It was a good thing that he didn't go there. It would've been traumatic to see the bodies or what was left from them. If there were any survivors that died later, I am very sorry for them.
@Albertan1984
@Albertan1984 Месяц назад
@LucasBoss6354 my dad has seen soo much over seas when he was deployed that he doesn't talk about it that he has combat PTSD from all his missions as an unarmed/armed combat medic
@LucasBoss6354
@LucasBoss6354 Месяц назад
@@Albertan1984 I am very sorry for him. I hope he will be happier from now and that he will defeat his PTSD.
@catlover4700
@catlover4700 2 месяца назад
I live in Canada, Im aircrew and recall this happening . I often ask my colleagues what they think about dumping the fuel. Why didnt SA just go in heavy and not dump fuel? Its the less of 2 evils. Its unreal they dumped, and didnt get that plane down asap, given the situation. My heart breaks everytime I see this show. God rest them all.
@ifrahabi4834
@ifrahabi4834 Месяц назад
It was less risk just to even to land in in the sea,
@WeaponsEducation
@WeaponsEducation 3 месяца назад
This hurt to watch.
@JustMe-sj2oe
@JustMe-sj2oe 3 месяца назад
I don't know why this tragedy haunts me... I lived in Ontario when it happened. When I was wedded at Peggy's Cove in 2004, I threw my bouquet into the ocean to honour the beloved.
@mnztr1
@mnztr1 Месяц назад
For me its haunting because they had plenty of time to get the plane on the ground, and its the "safety procedures" that doomed them. Maybe when the fire broke out they should have decompressed the cabin, who knows.
@steveridgely203
@steveridgely203 20 дней назад
Smoke anywhere means land, anchor, dock, or anything else immediately. No questions asked!
@gangstilicious1021
@gangstilicious1021 3 месяца назад
I just looked it up and I think each family only got like $137,000 each I just feel like that is no where near enough
@kostasvrionis781
@kostasvrionis781 3 месяца назад
137κ Τόσο αξίζει μια ζωή για την εταιρεία ?
@Endidixknsej
@Endidixknsej 3 месяца назад
Well how much is a life worth
@Ranger-tq9iy
@Ranger-tq9iy 3 месяца назад
Well no amount of money would make people go “oh that’s okay I’m ok with that”
@theontologist
@theontologist 3 месяца назад
Who is supposed to pay the millions per victim, though? The airline went bankrupt, so who's next -- raise the price of all tickets to cover added insurance costs? Raise taxes worldwide?
@muls9571
@muls9571 2 месяца назад
@@gangstilicious1021 no amount of money is enough for a life
@mnztr1
@mnztr1 Месяц назад
the thing that puzzles me with this one is they had a fire on board and they never seemed to consider they were in mortal danger. A fire can be a nothing burger or go bad very very quickly. They should have got low ASAP and close to the runway in case things started to spiral
@mntryjoseph1961
@mntryjoseph1961 3 месяца назад
May all the victims rest in peace.
@edwinov
@edwinov 3 месяца назад
Except the wef woman. wef = EVIL
@poplap9241
@poplap9241 3 месяца назад
Amazing how the investigation team found that single piece of wire that started the fire.
@ginkat1318
@ginkat1318 3 месяца назад
I think this is the 111th time this video has been uploaded
@gabrielacrit876
@gabrielacrit876 3 месяца назад
😂😂😂 I was just about to ask if we had already watched this one 😅 I was hopeful
@MichaelBeeny
@MichaelBeeny 3 месяца назад
Been on a number of TV channels here in NZ. If Sky get hold of it, you can expect many repeats.
@FuckKamalaHarris
@FuckKamalaHarris 3 месяца назад
Yeah.. but its “new and improved” with a different narrator!
@ChantelLeininger
@ChantelLeininger 3 месяца назад
I just lol
@-danR
@-danR 3 месяца назад
No, this is new. Mayday has cursed hundreds of air disasters to recur like Groundhog Day. The pilots and passengers must relive the horror every year or so in horrific perpetuity. I think us viewers have got it lucky.
@susansage7218
@susansage7218 Месяц назад
After I found this channel and have been binge watching it, I thank God I’ve survived from numerous flights over the years.
@rafikbaladi6555
@rafikbaladi6555 2 месяца назад
Thank you for this detailed and serious production. It is always heartbreaking to recall such a tragedy
@VidWatcher-v4j
@VidWatcher-v4j 17 дней назад
It seemed in that the pilots were very non nonchalant about the smoke in the episode. Originally picking Boston 300 miles away instead of Halifax 60 miles away. Seems like he didn't understand the urgency of the situation.
@Doo_Doo_Patrol
@Doo_Doo_Patrol 3 месяца назад
Where there is smoke, there is fire.
@poplap9241
@poplap9241 3 месяца назад
The narrator said that harmless smoke traces from the air-conditioning system were common on airplane jets.
@stellarwind1946
@stellarwind1946 2 месяца назад
@@poplap9241 why were the pilots alarmed by it if it were so common?
@muls9571
@muls9571 2 месяца назад
​@@stellarwind1946because it smelt, whereas the smoke from the air conditioning unit doesn't smell
@dana102083
@dana102083 2 месяца назад
​@@stellarwind1946because smoke is fire? Lol just cuz somethings common doesnt mean theyre not alarmed to other not as common issues..
@null_geodesic
@null_geodesic Месяц назад
@@poplap9241 Narrator isn't very bright. AC-related fog is not smoke.
@frankyhonnolus5528
@frankyhonnolus5528 3 месяца назад
The horror that the passengers must have felt as their plane dove into the ocean…in dark! Dang. SMH
@SpoiledBadgerMilk
@SpoiledBadgerMilk 3 месяца назад
At those g forces they where probably unconscious.
@Kattycorner59
@Kattycorner59 3 месяца назад
@@SpoiledBadgerMilkI hope so
@NPC_-mf4dw
@NPC_-mf4dw 3 месяца назад
@@SpoiledBadgerMilk Huh? What G-Forces? The aircraft was not experiencing excessive G-forces until impact. No one was unconscious when that plane impacted the sea, neither from (absent) g-forces nor from smoke inhalation as no evidence for it could be found. Luckily, no one realized the impact either nor saw it coming due to total darkness outside of the aircraft, as it happened faster than the brain could have processed anything. They were in a dive until suddenly, it was all over.
@dana102083
@dana102083 2 месяца назад
​@NPC_-mf4dw they said they felt 650Gs at impact..they had Gs before impact. What would indicate not excessive for you? This is UNREAL.
@beckylynn209
@beckylynn209 3 месяца назад
How horrifying! Going down in the dark knowing the ocean is below..😕
@red-eye-traveller9218
@red-eye-traveller9218 3 месяца назад
Probably only the pilots and a few passengers knew the ocean was below
@whoever6458
@whoever6458 Месяц назад
Bill, you did the absolute best you could do with all the information and understanding you had at that time and you did a good job! You can't save every patient. That's something those of us who have to deal with emergencies sometimes have to learn to accept because we are all doing the best that we can with the information we have at the time. Good job!
@anthonyc8117
@anthonyc8117 3 месяца назад
RIP Flight 111. Lesson: on an airplane, where there is smoke, there is fire. At the first sign of trouble, they should have kept looking for the source and if they couldn't find it after 5 minutes, start your landing protocols and keep looking. I'm not a pilot, just someone who thinks that if something seems wrong, there probably is something wrong especially on a flying piece of metal that you hope others had put together correctly. Again, RIP to the crew and passengers, condolences to their families and all those affected by that tragic event.
@ingridakerblom7577
@ingridakerblom7577 3 месяца назад
Same issue as always.. There is a lot of money lost when they do any type of landning. Esp unplanned ones . The preassure is on the pilots, higher up from the company due to the enormous costs involved. And then we see how often the same people who makes all the bad decisions, always try to blame the pilots when something bad happens..
@AnetaMihaylova-d6f
@AnetaMihaylova-d6f 3 месяца назад
​@@ingridakerblom7577they were late but it was very bad situation anyways so I wouldn't put a sentence on them
@kevinlynch1227
@kevinlynch1227 2 месяца назад
It's a problem if you over react or under react. I think they followed proper procedure but the fire spread way too fast, after they realized something WAS actually Burning. So sorry for the lost lives and familys and those who helped recovery and now suffer trauma!! Excellent detailed presentation of this sad & horrific malfunction and loss!!
@marhawkman303
@marhawkman303 Месяц назад
@@kevinlynch1227 Thing is... if you look for a source of fire and easily find it, THEN you can make an easy decision, but if you CAN'T find it? ...... too much risk to stay int he air.
@Samir-dy6le
@Samir-dy6le 18 дней назад
When it comes to airplane fire, this keeps happening. The problem with airplane fires is that the pilots cannot think about the source of fire because it is agreed upon that after the first 20 minutes, you almost always will lose the airplane.
@MissV301
@MissV301 2 месяца назад
This happened very close to where I grew up. My parents heard the loud bang when it hit the water. RIP all who died 😢
@KristianKumpula
@KristianKumpula 27 дней назад
Aww it's cute how Swiss pilots hold hands during take-off
@arsewipe22424
@arsewipe22424 2 месяца назад
Watched this on TV as a kid. The pilots did their best with what they had.
@susansage7218
@susansage7218 Месяц назад
It is absolutely amazing that the inspections were able to find the cause of the fire.
@martingraty2267
@martingraty2267 3 месяца назад
"Gambling system." Losing money on the fly.
@kathyjones3320
@kathyjones3320 3 месяца назад
Seeing an airplane crash is my worst fear I'm terrified of them. May all that lost their lives Rest in peace ❤️
@Wildrover82
@Wildrover82 3 месяца назад
Horrible crash. R.I.P to the victims.
@abbottmd
@abbottmd 3 месяца назад
I was on a flight once and alerted flight crew to some smoke smell from entertainment system and I remember first officer even coming back to check it out everything turned out okay fortunately.
@lwing77
@lwing77 3 месяца назад
It is amazing that they leave no stone unlearned to find answers and learn. I do not like to fly at all
@red-eye-traveller9218
@red-eye-traveller9218 3 месяца назад
Man up
@gabeseyfriedcomradeinarmsm8332
@gabeseyfriedcomradeinarmsm8332 20 дней назад
@@red-eye-traveller9218 Real
@DeepanjanThakur
@DeepanjanThakur 2 месяца назад
I've been watching a lot of these episodes and in most of them I don't understand why the pilots don't declare emergency earlier. I know it messes up a lot of things and also there is airlines pressure as well but if you're seeing smoke means there is a fire, declare emergency and land asap.
@mariovanrooyen6074
@mariovanrooyen6074 Месяц назад
Any fire on an aircraft must be terrifying.
@postersm7141
@postersm7141 3 месяца назад
I was born in Nova Scotia currently live in the United States since I was about four years old. My brother and I are planning a trip back to Nova Scotia and I want to visit his restaurant SHAW,’s landing.
@theghostoftravel
@theghostoftravel 3 месяца назад
ok
@willankhatter
@willankhatter 3 месяца назад
What are we supposed to do with this information we didn't ask for.?
@SavingSoulsMinistries
@SavingSoulsMinistries 3 месяца назад
@@willankhatter this reminds me... i should call her
@user-pn9db8sm5w
@user-pn9db8sm5w 3 месяца назад
​@@willankhatter- And your comment we didn't ask for.
@jattworld1984
@jattworld1984 3 месяца назад
Another illegal canadian immigrant 🤦🏻‍♂️ posting useless info
@southendbos
@southendbos 23 дня назад
I'm not a pilot. That said, I've wondered why pilots don't immediately get the plane down as fast as the airframe will allow. If there's smoke in the cockpit, there's a fire - or at least something smoldering somewhere. Regardless. Get down now. No?
@SkyandMoon909
@SkyandMoon909 3 месяца назад
Right off my local seashore. Heartbreaking for all
@waynelayton8568
@waynelayton8568 3 месяца назад
They wasted so much time . Dumping fuel with a fire on board? There are times when you need to throw the book out the window. Poor people.
@karenshafer234
@karenshafer234 26 дней назад
That father who relocated to Nova Scotia,,, so touching,,,!
@amyschlegel1180
@amyschlegel1180 19 дней назад
I think it was actually very sad and tragic that he left his wife to move to Nova Scotia! He couldn’t have prevented his daughter’s death, but he could’ve prevented the end of his marriage and the further destruction of his family. He took a tragic situation and made it so much worse.
@karenshafer234
@karenshafer234 19 дней назад
@@amyschlegel1180 I wondered about that...
@Noicei
@Noicei Месяц назад
Science is really amazing like how thy found the coz of plane crash
@KittyBeans369
@KittyBeans369 3 месяца назад
Terrible tragedy. A woman that I directly worked with for years was on the flight. She was traveling to join her husband for a European vacation. They had only been married for a few months.
@Kattycorner59
@Kattycorner59 3 месяца назад
What was her name ?
@KittyBeans369
@KittyBeans369 3 месяца назад
@@Kattycorner59 Rhonda Donaldson from Atlanta, GA.
@Imnotawalmartbag
@Imnotawalmartbag 3 месяца назад
The people that died will be missed...
@linola644
@linola644 24 дня назад
20 minutes to complete the checklist seems awfully long for one that isn't before departing :0
@Nanee907
@Nanee907 3 месяца назад
So they issued a PAN PAN PAN but someone decided it wasn't much of an emergency at one point?🤦🏻‍♀️
@red-eye-traveller9218
@red-eye-traveller9218 3 месяца назад
Made no difference
@sunysuny3030
@sunysuny3030 16 дней назад
Just returned from a trip to Peggy Cove,couldn’t just stopped thinking about those who lost their lives! God bless their souls.
@jerrychurchill8765
@jerrychurchill8765 3 месяца назад
I managed C & D Checks for Gemin I Air Cargo and we replaced the lining on all 5 MD11 aircraft per the FAA AD. It was C/W in 2002 nd 2003.
@malcolmclements9254
@malcolmclements9254 Месяц назад
The check list for fire said turn off air con in the cockpit. It was this which was fanning the flames back over the passenger cabin. Once this was turned off the flames concetrated over the cockpit. Leaving the ac on, may have given them more time, but they didn't know this... tragic.
@maryfrancesbeckerhaggerty5353
@maryfrancesbeckerhaggerty5353 Месяц назад
If I could have a place anywhere on the planet, it would be Halifax. I have never been there but the peaceful look just stole my heart. Not to mention, I think Canadian's are awesome.
@wellingtonaviationnz
@wellingtonaviationnz 3 месяца назад
This was the first disaster I ever watched when I was younger it so sad how this happened
@221b-l3t
@221b-l3t 3 месяца назад
Me too, it's the first Mayday episode I saw and having been born in Switzerland in the early 90s, this was the first big crash I remember and our national carrier too. The MD83 is still absolutely despised in the country even though in this one it wasn't the liners fault.
@rileykreates5275
@rileykreates5275 3 месяца назад
I'm not sure if it was the first for me, but I'm certain its one of the first.
@yours2injesus2
@yours2injesus2 2 месяца назад
HOW SAD
@BOB67666
@BOB67666 22 дня назад
A spark brought the plane down lmao
@jeremiahoghadomwangbe7107
@jeremiahoghadomwangbe7107 Месяц назад
The pilot underestimated the problem not knowing it could lead to their death
@JimAllen-Persona
@JimAllen-Persona 3 месяца назад
The only thing I take solace in is that the passengers never knew what hit them.
@williamlopez8983
@williamlopez8983 3 месяца назад
They knew, the plane would have had a lot of smoke inside specifically towards the front.
@zariballard
@zariballard 3 месяца назад
What do u mean? Of course they knew! They knew all the way down.
@poplap9241
@poplap9241 3 месяца назад
I disagree. It is 100% better to be prepared for death, even if it is just minutes because it allows them grace to say their final prayers.
@red-eye-traveller9218
@red-eye-traveller9218 3 месяца назад
There is no such thing as death though …do your own research 💁‍♂️
@felixt808
@felixt808 4 дня назад
​@@red-eye-traveller9218 ??
@danielroncaioli6882
@danielroncaioli6882 3 месяца назад
My friend’s sister-in-law died in this crash.
@Kattycorner59
@Kattycorner59 3 месяца назад
What was her name?
@dokudicted
@dokudicted Месяц назад
i was there. i survived
@d.g.1594
@d.g.1594 25 дней назад
I can imagine how hard it was for Ian Shaw losing his daughter. I got to say it was nice he moved to Canada and opened his own restaurant.
@chriseseigbe9768
@chriseseigbe9768 14 дней назад
This was a very sad and unfortunate accident. While l am not blaming the pilots, it baffles me why they didn't desend quickly to 3,000 feet considering the emergency situation, but choose to stay at 8,000 feet for cabin clearance. Surely, descending quickly was a priority given the emergency situation. May all their souls rest in peace🙏
@rodbodnod
@rodbodnod 3 месяца назад
clearly amongst the WORST trained pilots not to realise a plane on fire is a mayday
@motherofthreeb6337
@motherofthreeb6337 3 месяца назад
When he declared Pam Pam Pam, he should've IMMEDIATELY had the flight attendants to prepare the cabin for an emergency landing.
@theontologist
@theontologist 3 месяца назад
No.
@2434-k3l
@2434-k3l Месяц назад
@@motherofthreeb6337 it was two mins after …
@PaulWhitcomb-ty6md
@PaulWhitcomb-ty6md 2 месяца назад
Why did the pilot think that smoke emanating from the air conditioning system was no big deal, and how could he make the assumption that it was the air conditioning? That seems reckless.
@vickibak7672
@vickibak7672 3 месяца назад
This is tragic 😥 what a horrible way to go.
@aurangzebzeb7259
@aurangzebzeb7259 3 месяца назад
I have read this case many many times but still cant understand capt zimmer logic to dump fuel before landing becoz the aircraft was burning and he should have moved to airport irrespective of the fact the aircraft was heavy on fuel or not
@anonnimoose7987
@anonnimoose7987 3 месяца назад
Should you initiate an emergency water landing when the plane is on fire?
@JimAllen-Persona
@JimAllen-Persona 3 месяца назад
What if the landing gear broke on touchdown because the aircraft was too heavy?
@magnoliap5824
@magnoliap5824 3 месяца назад
@@JimAllen-Personastill a better choice, they would have emergency crews to deal with that. They needed to declare mayday and land immediately.
@monikar.5490
@monikar.5490 3 месяца назад
@@magnoliap5824 If the plane broke on touchdown and ignited all that fuel, emergency crews wouldn't be able to save them
@magnoliap5824
@magnoliap5824 3 месяца назад
@@monikar.5490 I know. 3 did survive so far.
@rhanemann9100
@rhanemann9100 2 месяца назад
I was a frequent trans Atlantic (business) traveler back in 1998. This crash hit hard.
@OduetseMokhawa
@OduetseMokhawa 3 месяца назад
The crew were so relaxed even after seeing smoke there were just acting normal
@poplap9241
@poplap9241 3 месяца назад
I don't think they were relaxed. Pilots are trained to remain calm and collected in such situations. It can therefore be misinterpreted as being "relaxed".
@theontologist
@theontologist 3 месяца назад
Brief bursts of smoke were more common on that generation of jets. And they took it seriously regardless.
@matthewhahn1132
@matthewhahn1132 Месяц назад
I feel very sorry for her father
@stellarwind1946
@stellarwind1946 2 месяца назад
One of the lead investigators claimed there was ample evidence of an incendiary device on board the aircraft, but this information was suppressed by TSB Canada.
@johnkerr4645
@johnkerr4645 Месяц назад
Yes, the device even had a name, it is called the entertainment system.
@nuclearvenom45
@nuclearvenom45 3 месяца назад
My dad worked on the Canadian sub that went to the plane crash
@11matt555
@11matt555 3 месяца назад
This guy is telling the truth. I know because I was the sub.
@Nawa11YT
@Nawa11YT 3 месяца назад
​@@11matt555woah, that's so cool!
@theghostoftravel
@theghostoftravel 3 месяца назад
COOL!
@willankhatter
@willankhatter 3 месяца назад
​@@11matt555😂😂😂😂sub man, sub man, yeah that's you....
@matthieubollea2216
@matthieubollea2216 3 месяца назад
Economic class dying because the 1st class had entertainment... Nice metaphore, almost Titanic like...
@pamelatanner788
@pamelatanner788 3 месяца назад
The investigator said they initially thought that was the cause but later realized it wasnt.
@fernandogallardo3458
@fernandogallardo3458 3 месяца назад
If you see smoke coming out from an airplane, forget about dumping fuel. The pilots were supposed to go straight to the airport and land the plane.
@poplap9241
@poplap9241 3 месяца назад
The narrator said that harmless smoke traces from the air-conditioning system were common on airplane jets
@tylerdurdensystem7317
@tylerdurdensystem7317 2 месяца назад
That ATC reminds me of a time when I was a kid and almost cut my thumb off. It was bleeding pretty bad but we had been almost ready to have dinner when it happened and my Dad said "well we might as well eat before we go to the hospital".
@deeplearning7097
@deeplearning7097 Месяц назад
Brilliant work, thank you.
@DataJuggler
@DataJuggler 3 месяца назад
28:00 My heart breaks for any parent that loses a child.
@scotthayes4135
@scotthayes4135 3 месяца назад
Yes definitely. That's how parents of children killed at Colmbine High School felt.
@theghostoftravel
@theghostoftravel 3 месяца назад
ok
@brigidsingleton1596
@brigidsingleton1596 3 месяца назад
​And in Scotland, the shooting by a scoutmaster of _15_ _five_year old children, and _1_ _six_year old boy, and their teacher* (who* was shot 16 times as she tried to protect two of the little girls nearest to her - all three died where they lay) at Dunblane Primary School ... It led to our UK government banning the deemed unnecessary ownership of certain handguns, following the 'Snowdrop Petition' started by the grieving parents of the dead children, which collected nearly 8000 signatures... The new gun ownership laws helped to prevent such horrific events from happening again, though not all, sadly... Hungerford, and Whitehaven, were two more towns (in different parts of England) where mass shootings occurred, which remain in our collective British memory. R.I.P. Dunblane, Hungerford and Whitehaven.
@Harald-MacGerhard
@Harald-MacGerhard 24 дня назад
IMHO this is incredibly criminal neglect, in the Apollo 1 accident in 1967 there was a fatal fire that was fumed by flammable material within the capsule. Now many decades later, there is no collective learning from this and there is highly flammable material in critical parts of the airframe structure ... WOW 😵‍💫 In my opinion McDonnell Douglas and Swissair stand clearly responsible for the tragic death of 229 people. My heart cries out for the families, friends and relatives 💔
@CaesarNeptuneStudios
@CaesarNeptuneStudios 2 месяца назад
This is by far the most terrifying and horrific flight ever. The fact that even if everything would have been done perfectly, they still wouldn't have survived... and that only 1 body was intact. All of this just from a faulty IFE-system, insane.
@anaisjbeauty
@anaisjbeauty 3 месяца назад
Tuning in now! ❤
@weirdbeard1980
@weirdbeard1980 3 месяца назад
Air traffic controller in this episode was in an episode of macgyver. It was one of my favs. He makes a bomb at Mac's Alma Mater and Mac has to diffuse it.
@Lana-oe3qy
@Lana-oe3qy 3 месяца назад
This is so sad. The plane could of made the airport in Halifax if the pilots had known the gravity of the situation
@joshntn37111
@joshntn37111 3 месяца назад
Ummm no it couldn't. Were you not listening?
@williamlopez8983
@williamlopez8983 3 месяца назад
I believe they did make it, they just turned around to go dump fuel.
@Ranger-tq9iy
@Ranger-tq9iy 3 месяца назад
They would have had a much much better chance had they decided to go straight in while dumping
@LemonHead-sq5ws
@LemonHead-sq5ws 3 месяца назад
Haha niagah
@benclark1753
@benclark1753 3 месяца назад
@@Ranger-tq9iy I`ve often wondered the same thing.
@mnirwin5112
@mnirwin5112 3 месяца назад
I can't imagine the terror the passengers must have felt as the plane began its final spiral, and the nightmare of the pilots who were doing their utmost to get that plane down safely.
@theghostoftravel
@theghostoftravel 3 месяца назад
you wouldnt be able to, you wouldnt exist anymore
@RishabAggarwal-jj5vy
@RishabAggarwal-jj5vy Месяц назад
I still don't understand why they had not used the fire extinguisher when the fire originally broke out ...
@junebugjunebug4492
@junebugjunebug4492 3 месяца назад
I thought if there's smoke then they land asap. Like no fuel dumping or even check list.
@JimAllen-Persona
@JimAllen-Persona 3 месяца назад
I think I’d rather have them run a checklist. Landing heavy could’ve broke the landing gear. Smoke is an indicator of a problem but it may not serious.
@williamlopez8983
@williamlopez8983 3 месяца назад
Yeah they made a major mistake!!!
@221b-l3t
@221b-l3t 3 месяца назад
That came after this crash. But there is always a checklist. It's very short now though and any smoke is treated as a fire.
@zoso73
@zoso73 2 месяца назад
They died so that others may live. The flammable insulation that lined the MD-11 has been phased out of all commercial aircraft.
@indianfan1029
@indianfan1029 3 месяца назад
I remember seeing this news on CNN which was a newly launched satellite channel in India at that time. It was very tragic. The uncertainty of a plane go missing.
@ThomasCranmer1959
@ThomasCranmer1959 3 месяца назад
One of my ancestors was a lieutenant on the CSS Chicora in Charleston harbor.
@doobyboy21
@doobyboy21 9 дней назад
Canada is home to the greatest tragedies in history... Titanic, Titan, Swissair 111, Ocean Ranger, Empress of Ireland, The Halifax Explosion, and so many more...
@Emjayman12345.
@Emjayman12345. 3 месяца назад
That so sad.
@robertbolding4182
@robertbolding4182 3 месяца назад
The captain's decision to go to Boston killed everybody.
@AnetaMihaylova-d6f
@AnetaMihaylova-d6f 3 месяца назад
Yep
@katieducky23
@katieducky23 19 дней назад
“September 2nd” That’s my birthday today lol
@ryanmulcahey9810
@ryanmulcahey9810 2 месяца назад
I’ve always wondered if it would have mattered if the flight attendants had helped fight the fire and let the pilots fly the plane
@goodbonezz1289
@goodbonezz1289 3 месяца назад
Seems like the pilots did not take the situation as seriously as they should have. Smoke means fire. Fire in a pressurized aluminum tube filled with air and fuel at 39k feet is not a situation to take your time in. Immediately dump fuel, lose altitude and land.
@JonCampos-kh2bw
@JonCampos-kh2bw 3 месяца назад
He left his wife? I think there’s more to this than just his daughter.
@rouke3254
@rouke3254 3 месяца назад
grief is rought but he probable wanted to move and she didn't. I mean the way he talks sounds like he has yet to process what has happened, but I could not imagine having a relative die on their way to come see you. For all we know the dad was an important factor in why the daughter wanted to visit hence he feels responsible for her death.
@MsKimmy1234
@MsKimmy1234 3 месяца назад
The dad came to NS when the crash happened. He didn’t want to leave NS because his daughter died here. So he purchased a building going to Peggy’s Cove and opened a restaurant. He didn’t live here until after the crash 😢
@poplap9241
@poplap9241 3 месяца назад
Clearly his daughter was the love of his life. I think in a lot of instances does husband or wife cherish their children much more than they cherish their own spouse.
@Kattycorner59
@Kattycorner59 3 месяца назад
@@poplap9241I cherish my daughter over my husband absolutely !
@ederss7
@ederss7 2 месяца назад
20 minute checklist? Dump fuel? Those pilots were too stricted to the rules and procedures in a situation in which other things were more important. That's too much time to waste, even if they didn't know how serious the smoke was.
@michaelhorton1350
@michaelhorton1350 3 месяца назад
Common “smoke” traces from air-conditioning, if not fire (quite uncommon) that ‘smoke’ is likely hydraulic fluid from fittings near end of service life. Seems likely that many ‘suspicious’ smells are hydraulic spraying of lubricant fluid.
@rodbodnod
@rodbodnod 3 месяца назад
cannot believe my ears HMM, SMOKE UP HERE, WHAT DOES IT MEAN ?
@visulino
@visulino 21 день назад
Shaw put a live lobster in boiling water toward the last minutes of this video, He didn't learn.
@gabeseyfriedcomradeinarmsm8332
@gabeseyfriedcomradeinarmsm8332 20 дней назад
💀
@sharonsciba5647
@sharonsciba5647 3 месяца назад
Can you imagine all the grizzly things on the bottom of the ocean🥺
@dirkvanerp7332
@dirkvanerp7332 3 месяца назад
Like the CEO of Ocean Gate?
@shadowlark6
@shadowlark6 3 месяца назад
How do they know engine 2 was sbut down a minite before impact if the FDR and CVR both stopped recording 6 minutes before impact? And how could they tell the captain wasn't in his seat if the plane basically disintegrated?
@theontologist
@theontologist 3 месяца назад
Because they can tell from the engine wreckage, how fast the engine was moving on impact. And they can tell pilot positions from the distribution of human remains in the fragmented cockpit seats.
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