Taken from the checkerboard used for the approach into Kai Tak. Odd crosswind landing. IGS 13 bit.ly/78Fqcz Click to subscribe! bit.ly/subAIRBOYD #AIRBOYD #AvGeek
kai tak has a lot of crosswind, due to the infrastructure of buildings near the airport. And its very dangerous on descent, not only because of the sharp turn, but also the descend has to be kept real study or it would easily crash. I remeber when i was a kid, my dad would take me out to the checkboard to watch landings, it thrills me all the time. Now that the airport is gone, its something that can only be seen of tape / videos
Actually, they knew from which direction. From the sea with occasional gusts of wind from the sides which could be quite ferocious. And the landbound wind made it impossible to approach from the sea so pilots had to perform this peculiar approach with a sharp right-hand turn close to touchdown because of the hills you can see in the background. So, I agree, not the best of all places to build an airport. But, fortunately, it was shut down in 1998.
i have a aunt that lives in an apartment in hong kong, her window view is exactly the frame at 0:25. unfortunately the airport is closed. If not i would go back and watch planes land all day.
A fine landing in one of the most dangerous and exciting airports known to Man but also featuring the gorgeous MD-11, one of my favorite aircraft ever growing up (the now sadly gone VARIG from my Brazil had a few of these babies in the 90s and 2000s).
I haven't seen a DC L-1011 in a long time. I love flying in those aircraft. 747's are fun too. Would love to fly in the new Airbus 380's. This airport has terrible crosswind landings. You really have to be a great pilot to make it look so smooth.
No, the absence of the word "heavy" after the flight number simply will indicate that the plane will produce a "normal" wake turbulence, therefore distances between airplanes are standard; nowadays, besides turboprops and commuter jets, we are basically talking about B-707/727/737, standard DC8 and DC9/MD80 and A320 families, the rest, including series 60 or 70 DC8s, are heavy. Remember this is only for ATC distance/sequencing purposes
@scvs, any airplane with a gross take off weight of 300,000 lbs or over is known to ATC as heavy, because distances between that plane and others following have to be greater because of the stronger wake turbulence. Nowadays, anything heavier than a B757 is considered as a heavy
back when i was a child, i use to stay at my grandmas place when i went to HK. The apt gave a great angle of the plane banking towards the runway. I would usually watch it fly by while brushing my teeth. Too bad i can't see it now even if i do travel back to HK
@tonapu - you should go and visit the city today.... this airport was closed in the mid 1990s. Today, the airport and city in Hong Kong is far more developed and modern. Furthermore, the new Hong Kong International Airport is one of the best airport in the world with honors from Skytrax ranking it Airport of the year on 6 or more occasions.
I'm not a pilot, but the thing with Kai Tak is the approach, you have to do a steep right turn before you can line up with the runway and then you don't have a lot of time to line up perfectly and this is made harder if you have some crosswind.
@tousmane14 Kai Tak, a severely subpar facility (thanks to its highly dangerous approach angle) was shut down in 1998. The new HK International airport at Chek Lap Kok opened immediately afterwards and has proven to be a magnificent airport worthy of Hong Kong as a world class city.
you have to approach via stonecutters ndb and then turn right when you get to the chequerboard onto rwy headg 130 which is why its called approach to runway 13 - google it and look at pics - flying it in a prop is easier - there is a hgk add on available
If i lived their i could spot planes all the time and that, but just imagine if something goes wrong with on of the planes and it just crashes into all those houses, that would be a place i would least expect too be:(, good video thoug
I flew alot MD-11 realy nice! :) Zurich-Cairo alot ;) and it's not the MD-11s problem it was the tv stuf, I remember at the end the movies was shown on DVD portable player :)
@LVEbonys Not really...Kai Tak was surrounded by high terrain which you can't see in the video. It was a bad site for the airport, not a bad design. Don't know who chose the site though.
@Neztle vortex are not created when the airplane departing is close to the ground, nor in ground effect, which is half a wingspan. Thats why it is safe to land there. Unless a bigger airplane landing there a couple of secs or mins ago, it is otherwise safe. If a bigger airplane did land, then the second pilot approaching must come touch down AFTER the bigger airplane touch down point.
Why do you hate the MD-11? I personally think its a nice big plane and seems to be pretty responsive. Also with all its electronics and the glass cockpit it seems very safe.
@tonymctigue Yep. Now mostly have been converted to freight. But pilots still find it tricky to maneuver on the ground because the nose wheel is too far back than most aircrafts.
It is was a beautiful apraoch at Old Kai-tak but there where to much accidents so now there is a new Kai-Tak on a created island before 2 islands with mountains and now 1 flat island
Hong Kong Kai Tak Airport is now a shipping dock as of 2009 when I visited HK. Chep Lok Of the Lantau Island is where the new airport is. Also known as the "HKG". Now It's located on an island away from the Mainland. Here at Lantau Island is where Hong Kong's Disneyland is located. As well as the crystal cart things up to the buddah.
Like many airports around the world. LGA was designed for DC-3's, NOT big jets, so you occasionally slide one off into the water because of the short runways.
@Boeing744andRCAquad tri-jets are being replaced with twin-jets because 2 engines are much cheaper to design, build, and fly (obviously, with 1 less engine). the original reason for tri-jets was to avoid ETOPS restrictions (basically, twin-jets can't fly too far from areas without airports, aka oceans and whatnot), but quad-jets like the 747 are overkill for many oceanic routes. tri-jets were/are exempt from ETOPS restrictions, but now that jet engine reliability has improved so much...
there's no turbulence since the plane came on the back of the takeoff airplane only if the airplane goes for a go-around than they would be in the vortex or turbulence
@Boeing744andRCAquad ...ETOPS certifications are much more lax (the 777 holds the current record for flying 6 hours or so on ONE engine). with twin-jets being more able to (legally) fly ETOPS restricted routes, companies no longer have a need to fly the more expensive tri-jets. hence the demise of planes like the dc-10 and md-11.
@crossbike I couldn't agree more. What an amazing airline. Lost the same way some of the other "fallen flags" ie Braniff and Pan-Am... back when you got dressed up to fly and they didn't dare serve food on plastic trays.... all fine china... cheers man.
...what's your point? Vaud crashed September 1998, Kai Tak had been closed for months by then... meaning that the aircraft was still around when this video was taken.
Its needs to touchdown at 300km/h/185mph to keep stabilty on landing the tail was desinged smaller to emprove fuel effiency its a streched version of the DC10
