I felt a little meh getting a curly hair sling as a freebie but honestly that little sucker is such an entertaining and charming spood. Love it and so happy I got it.
Have 3 of these. Two are completely laid back and the third more high strung and will even occasionally threat posture. It is, however, hard to be both scary and fluffy. 😂
Just got one at an expo, small subadult. Opened up the container, the second the paintbrush bristles touched it's foot it rounded around like "who wants some?!"😆
Doug A, sounds familiar! Mine (my first T, in fact) is spunky! The lightest touch with a brush and she hops up, does a 180, and delivers a solid two-fist punch. I've only rehoused her once but she thwacked everything I tried to encourage her with. I eventually settled on limiting her route with a couple of large plastic lids and she politely crawled over into the new enclosure then kicked a little hair just at the end to let me know she was not impressed. She's never given a threat pose and always politely tucks into the mouth of her hide when I change her water, but she's a little toughie. It's honestly pretty cute. She's also an accomplished architect: she built a sloping roof to conceal the entrance to her hide using silk fern leaves for structural support. I'm astonished at how creative and strange this little alien thing is.
Awesome spiders. My T. albo (Nicaraguan) is 2 1/2" maybe 3" now and since her last molt she's turned into a Water Killer. No matter where she is in her enclosure, when I fill her water dish up, she TEARS across the enclosure and starts batting at the water, lol... she's quite the character.
I would agree.....IF I EVER saw mine. It has been in it's cork log for a year now. It sneaks out once a never to drink water. Finally got it to eat a cricket a month ago. Boringest T I have.
My bf found one of these dead off of a road in California. I thought wow that's a fuzzy CA tarantula....after looking back at the pic its was definitely a curly...probably escaped or was abandoned by some idiot that assumed it would live in our climate. 😢
The T. albo was my first tarantula. Her name’s Coco. She’s an adult female now and she’s definitely a pet hole, but for the most part she’s super laid back! The one time she ever gave a threat pose was my fault, as I had made the classic beginner’s mistake of dropping prey directly into the burrow and stressing her out. She survived so many of my other beginner mistakes too, thank heaven they’re so hardy 😅 They’ll forever be one of my favorite species of all time!
Hey, Alex! Sounds like Coco is a sweetheart! And I've done that with the prey before myself. I always feel bad about it afterwards. haha Thanks for chiming in!
Hi Tom !! I have a 5 & 1/2 inch Nicaraguan curly hair that always stays in her burrow !! I’ve not fed her for a few months hoping she will come out, but no !! Is their anything I can do to promote her to stay out ??? 😳 Thanks Candy
Hi, Candy! Some of them just like to remain burrowing as they get older. I have a female that is about 6" that burrowed before he last molt and now she doesn't come out all of that often. Could your girl be in premolt?
Great video! I just got a juvenile nicaraguan curly hair at an expo for $40. Awesome T. Kinda a compromise b/c I really had my eye on a $110 avic metallica female, but am on a budget. Good compromise. :)
Both of mine are "furniture movers". Lol! I love watching them completely destroy their enclosures, it's quite comical. Came home one day to find one wrapped around a fake leaf, trying to pull it from the stem. They're like hyperactive, destructive toddlers. They're only about 2 inches at the moment so I can't wait to see how things progress!
I recently picked up a Honduran albo. They are very attentive and she is my only tarantula who comes out in the open when she hears me enter the room. She is not afraid or skittish and never showed me any defensive behavior. She also rehoused herself haha
I've got a question about my T. albopilosus (though it could apply to any tarantula) that's been really bugging me and I was hoping you might be able to answer it! Basically, the my curly hair was one of my first tarantulas (I now have eight) and the very first day I got it as a tiny 1/2" sling I did something that in retrospect seems profoundly stupid. They were in their hide and I wanted to see what they were doing so I took out my rather high powered 100 lumen flashlight I keep in my pocket and shined it in their hide. They stared at it for probably 20 seconds before I left them in peace and then proceeded to wall up their hide with substrate and I didn't see them again for a month. Lesson learned there, don't harass your tarantula with a flashlight. I never shined a flashlight on any of my tarantulas again after that, and in the 4 months since then my T. albopilosus has molted a few times and is now a 2" juvenile. Where my question comes in is that out of all my tarantulas my T. albopilosus is the only one that has shiny almost silver looking eyes, and they're very skittish when it comes to taking prey items. So, what I'm wondering is if that 20 second direct exposure to the 100 lumen flashlight beam from 6" or so away when they were a little sling could have permanently blinded them? I know tarantulas don't have eyelids so they can't close their eyes, and given that my T. albopilosus is my only tarantula that has weird silver looking reflective eyes I've always wondered if that flashlight incident that I still feel bad about could have burned out the poor thing's retinas? Or is it normal for a T. albopilosus to have shiny reflective eyes? Thank you for your time and for all your excellent educational tarantula content!
Hi, Skippy! I use a flashlight to check on mine all of the time, and I've never had an issue. Unless you somehow scarred their eyes with a laser, I wouldn't think that you could blind one. And I'll have to check mine as I've never really noticed that before!
I got a 3/4 inch Nicaraguan sling in early October of 2020 and it's almost 3" dls now (and it's in premolt again). It's such a character and my favorite spider of my collection. It's always up to something, always out on display, loves to eat, and always chill. I'm going to cry if it's a male.
I want to put leaf litter in my T. albipilosus's habitat too, but I read that it can be harmful to them because of mites, mold, and possible pesticides :( how did you manage to ensure your leaves were safe??
Hello! I buy all air caught leaf litter from places that sell it for use in reptile and amphibian enclosures. You can get it from Bio Dude and Josh's Frogs, or do a search on Ebay (that's where I've been getting mine).
I've been kicking around the idea of getting a tarantula since I was a teen (and I'm now in my mid-30s...), and this video (plus some of your other ones) has convinced me to go ahead and do it! Been doing a lot of research, and I'm going to go check out my local exotic pet store tomorrow and see what they've got. These little guys are so fluffy!
@@TomsBigSpiders Thank you! I picked up a very fuzzy T. albo from the local pet store and I couldn't be more pleased! He or she seems to be settling in well. :)
The T albopilosus was my first T I picked up last year, as a sling, and I just adore her. Sweetest little girl and so gentle. I rarely handle, but she tolerates it amazingly when I do. Never once even kicked a hair at me. She’s now about 3 inches so great size jump in just a year’s time and is now starting to relax out in the open often.
I’m a jumping spider ambassador but I’ve slowly been opening up to keeping tarantulas… they seem so hard compared to jumpers though! I’m going to do a lot of research…
Hello! Having raised many of both (jumpers and tarantulas), I think that many tarantula species are a bit easier to raise up from slings. The biggest difference is that tarantulas live a lot longer. Good luck with your research!
T. Albo is such a great one to have. I love how you mention temperament can vary. My T. Albo (Nicaraguan) is a totaly jerk. Just recently rehoused mine and when I used the paintbrush he immediately turned and tagged it which totally surprised me... yet I have old worlds who have never shown me defensive behavior during any rehouse,maintenance or feedings and are just scaredy cats lol. But overall, I hear from so many their T. Albo is pretty docile. Absolutely a great beginner species. Great eaters, easy care and just an overall must have, especially that of the Nicaraguan! 😊
They really are! And I had to put that in there, because some folks report ones that are quite jumpy and/or defensive. People need to be aware that although one might have a teddy bear, their might be a REAL bear. haha And they definitely do make a great beginner!
@@TomsBigSpiders most of the ones I have that everyone says are more docile, always wind up being my craziest ones haha. I don't expect any to be "nicer" at this point. Also... I don't blame you for hating being poked in the but haha🤪🤣
Tom, I have a question. I literally NEVER see mine. Git it Jan 2020 as about a 3" juvenile? It ate well, molted a couple times, hung out in the open.....and now is the most pointless T I have. Lol. I gave it a cork log about a year ago......that's where it STAYS. It came out for a day or two last summer when out air conditioner broke. Other than that I haven't seen it. It webs off both ends if the log. Periodically sneaks out at night to drink (there will be dirt or 💩 in the dish and one end of the log will be open) That's when I'll offer food. Nothing, it has literally thrown dubia and red runner roaches out of the log. Last month it FINALLY ate a cricket......that's it. Am I doing something wrong or did I just get the worst one ever? Lol
Hahaha Sounds like quite the spider! ;) Is it possible that it was a wild caught specimen (larger ones sold in the hobby often are)? If that's the case, that's probably why you are getting the behavior that you are getting. You might find that it becomes more "normal" after its next molt. Good luck!
I’m getting one soon. I’m a bit iffy though, I think I’m getting too in over my head. I went from arachnophobic to 6 spiders deep within a year… I don’t know if I should get number seven so soon… but my spider guy has a set of one inch slings… and they are so cute and fluffy and I’m in a dilemma now. :( I live in a two roomed Japanese apartment, and I do have the space for them… but my first one is an Acanthoscurria geniculata, who will eventually take up a lot more space… :(
Hey, Mausami Rai! I went from arachnophobic to several spiders in a year, so I'd say that you're okay. haha That said, it's good that you're thinking ahead to the space you will need when they are adults. A lot of folks load up on slings then find themselves out of room when they start to mature.
Hopefully getting my first tarantula next month! I am ordering from fearnottarantulas. This is really appriciated. If anyone has any advice please give me some!
Rehousing mine consisted of digging it up and giving it new substrate lol. She would spend about 9 months burrowed and not eating, come out for a month or two eat a couple times, then back under for 8 or 9 months.
Thanks! Love your content and I just adore two new T's and got a T Albo of my own now! Letting him settle in as there was a fresh not in his enclosure when I got him before I test temperament with handling
Yeah mine does not let you mess with her. I dont know if shes wild caught or not truly t. albopilosus or just sassy. But shes beautiful and a great eater.
My sling growing like a weed an allways hungry an at that stage where he's starting t o set on top of his hide ,,I think the cricket gone done his hole ,split second lasted he's got it in his mouth,that fast
@@TomsBigSpiders thank you, i didn't think so but i wasn't certain. I'm looking for a slow beginner new world fossorial and someone in a tarantula group suggested them over the Sandinista lanceolatum and the megaphobrma and ephebopus genres. Again, thank you.
I can't remember what I was doing when I did this video, but I currently use about 45/45/10 of peat, cocofiber, and vermiculite or shredded sphagnum. Sometimes, I'll toss in 10% top soil.
Amazing species I really enjoyed making my care video on these, such an underrated tarantula. I recently had an egg sack from mine and now taking care of hundreds of slings. Shouldn't be hard to find them great homes 😊 fantastic video
i feel bad because i just got one and i think he is traumatized or something. ive had him 2 and a half days and i put him in a 12 x 8 inch enclosure with like 4 inches of substrate. he has two half logs and so far he has only been hiding under the one i got him with. i dont think hes done much exploring or any digging. im worried hes uncomfortable for some reason. i dont have a cave for him like you do. but hes not very big right now. so far i seen him grab 2 crickets and i think hes eaten two more i left with him w/ crushed heads.
Thank you for the video, I’m looking to get a curly hair female (my first ever tarantula) from a reputable captive breeder, my enclosure will be here soon so gonna take time getting it right, I’m reading the tarantula keepers guide and watching helpful videos like yours and reading peoples comments on there own Ts and a lot are very amusing so can’t wait to start my tarantula story
Hello I know I’m late but I have a question. I have a 3 year old curly hair not sure how big but I would say 3-5 inches. Is a 15 gallon enclosure going to be too big for her? Should I just get a 10 gallon? Is 15 going to stress her out or is the too big enclosure just a myth? She’s currently in a 5 gallon. Please let me know if you got the time Much appreciated
Hey Tom absolutely beautiful spiders, I am currently on my 2nd sling of this species and I love them! I am a little disappointed to the fact that some want to play “ mad scientist “ by cross breeding especially with the Pokies!! Keep the blood lines true guys.🧐Great video Tom love your work with these magnificent spiders!!!🕷🤘
Tom, I don’t know for sure that this is taking place but I have watched some short discussions on some of the other spider channels that this could possibly be happening and the Pokies and the Curly hair has been mentioned more than once. Hybridizing to achieve different patterning and colorations, similar to what the reptile hobby has done with certain constrictors and lizards. The spiders are not reptiles I’ve been a keeper since the mid-eighties and this never has been brought up until just the last few years, hopefully it is all just rumors, but rumors can get started sometimes with a basis of fact! Thanks Tom.🕷
Earlier today I was considering adding a curly hair to my collection, and the fact that this popped up and was uploaded TODAY makes me think it was a sign. Great vid!
Is his carapace black or gold? Look a little gold. Nicaragua's have black carapace's and Honduran's have gold carapace's no matter the gender, is that right or wrong? My Tlitlcatl Albopilosus Nicaragua female has molted 3 times since January 2022 when I got her and she grew a whopping 1" in her last molt May 4th. She is now 4". She's getting big!
Hi, Elizebeth! The carapace on this one is blackish. That said, I've seen Honduarans with darker carapaces, but who knows if they are pure. Man, yours is growing like a weed!
Great choice. The T. Albopilosus was my first T too. I bought her just over a year ago, she is always quite active, being out in the open most of the time. Mine loves to rearrange her enclosure like a little bulldozer too, lol! I have a small collection of 9 T's so far (all new world beginer species) and I think she is still my favourite. You will not be disappointed. I actually have 2 T. Albopilosus, one is a female adult, and the other I bought 8 or 9 months ago as a 1cm spiderling, it is now just a touch over 2 inches and was very easy to rear. Not only did it grow quite fast IMO, it was only about £3 when I bought it, so they are very cheap, very hardy, very easy to look after, great display species, and mine seem to be very docile. What else could you ask for in a first time Tarantula? They are quite a pretty spider too. I don't think you could go wrong purchasing a T. Albopilosus as a first time Tarantula species, good luck!
I keep my apartment at about 76 - 80 degrees F. In 18 months I have an almost 7 inch (I am guessing 6 3/4 inch) hooked out male spider. He is much calmer now and doesn't run and hide when I walk by the enclosure. It has never kicked hair. Mine is Nicaraguan. Mine does borrow and enjoys the moist substrate when he isn't hanging around the water dish. Thanks for this update Tom!
Nice video. Please do a video about highly venomous scorpions like deathstalker and indian red scorpion. If you have them please do a husbandry and care video.
@@TomsBigSpiders before the pandemic death stalker was very easy to find in my country. Due to this pandemic a lot of animal hobbyist group was disbanded, now even the most common P. transvaalicus and H. Hottentotta are very hard to find. I hope you find a death stalker.
I have a T.Albo nicaragua as well. Seems it doesn't really like the moist substrate. With the lower substrate being moist I have noticed that it has been out more, lol Btw, is that a Ghost shirt? Saw them a few years ago opening up for Maiden
Thank you for chiming in with that! I've had the moisture discussion quite a few times, and some folks believe that they absolutely need it moist. And it IS a Ghost shirt...good eyes! My wife and I took my two middle kids to see them in 2019 right before the pandemic hit. We had a blast.
@@TomsBigSpiders nice! It was a good show. Seems they've really picked up steam in the last few years. I saw KISS in February of 2020 right before things got bad
I have a juvenile curly hair and she molted in july and i moved her to a 10 gal tank and for the last couple months she wont eat and im not sure why, she has a tiny bald spot on her abdomen but i dont think shes in premolt her abdomen isnt black it still normal color. Any ideas
I love the curly hairs... I want a tarantula but I'm pretty sure my house is too cold in the winter time. It gets down to 60 in my living room and the bedrooms are colder. Not too good for tarantulas, is it?
Hi, Lee Ann! That's a little low, but not terrible for one. You could always carefully set up a heat mat on a shelf next to the spider's home (NOT under it) to give it a little heat during the winter months.
Went to my local exotic store today where a good friend of mine works and he had 2 I was looking at and said one was “wonky” and he’d let me have it if I took it home and took care of it. So I did! It is a bit wonky lol I don’t really know how to explain it, it’s either an issue with it’s back end/back legs, or I dunno. It’ll randomly go for a cricket and hold onto it and you’ll think it’s eating and then all the sudden, it lets it go. Then it roams, then it JUMPS for the cricket and does the same thing. Not sure what’s going on, I’m still pretty new to T’s but I’m going to do my best to just take good care of him/her. It’s a juv/sub adult, I’d say around 2.5-3”. Again, not sure if it’s hybrid or wild caught, but it’s very curly so 🤷🏻♀️
Hello, Marjorie! Does it have both of it's fangs? That almost sounds like the spider isn't able to kill the prey. Just a guess. I hope that it's doing okay.
@@TomsBigSpiders yeah figured out a day later it Does not have fangs and I found out it’s wild Caught from a distributor in FL so… kinda makes me mad between that distributor and where I was given it, no one noticed or cared. I have been offering it super worms every day that I’ve cut in a few places to see if it’ll get any juice in its mouth while trying to kill it. I think it’s actually working. I noticed today it’s abdomen actually looks a little bigger. So I’m keeping it super moist and offering the food every day and hoping to get it through its next molt.
@@TomsBigSpiders I actually emailed you through your website about it a few days back. I was sooooo upset. I didn’t know what to do and you’re the first person I thought to contact. I’m feeling a bit better now but I was literally like bawling every time I’d go to feed it watching it try so hard to eat. Ughhhh very emotional. But I think I may actually get it through. Just praying . Thank you SO much for commenting back!!!! 🤍
I stack them, so I don't do vent holes on the lids. I prefer them on the sides myself. That said, if you're not stacking, you could certainly put some in there.
Oh, I DO enjoy them! I just have to make sure that people are aware of the different forms (which may one day be different species) so they do not pollute the gene pool any further. :)
@@TomsBigSpiders ty I hope to get a T. Albopilosus one day, I already have a T. Vagans and that's one hell of a badass specie for observation and husbendry lol
After watching your Top 13 video, this is T that I am looking to get as my first one. Watching this, I am a bit concerned that I will end up with a wild caught one, I’m not sure how to avoid this, I’m in the UK 🤞
That's awesome! If you start off with an adult, it will likely be wild caught. At least here in teh US, there seem to be a lot of them for sale in pet stores. If you buy smaller ones, they will hopefully be captive bred. You can always ask the vendor selling them. Good luck!
@@TomsBigSpiders yes! Thank you, I have seen some slings that are bred by the The Spider Shop, which is a good online company here in the UK, so I think I will go down that route. I’ve been watching all your videos on slings! 😆
Hey Tom, I’m not sure if you have this species but it’s very hard to keep in captivity the M Mesomelas, I’m getting one because it’s my favourite species and it’s very hard to find but I hear they don’t do well with temperature fluctuations, hopefully you can make a video on it if you have one, there’s not much info out there on that species :/
Hi, Geoffrey! I almost bought one a couple years ago, but I passed on it due to those temperature issues. I'm still not quite sure that they really need cooler temps, but after doing research on them, I wasn't completely sure. As my tarantula room can get quite hot during the summer, I worried that it might not do well in there. Who currently has them in stock?
@@TomsBigSpiders oh I’m in Canada so arachnophilliacs was able to get one for me, and it’s captive bred, I’m just really scared to lose it, costed me quite a bit, but it was only one he was able to find which was 4 inches
Just got two slings of these one after housing found the hide i put in there for it same day closed the door. The other one is just digging away. Will be watching all four of my new slings grow. Always handing out the information packets keep it up Tom.
@@TomsBigSpiders hi Tom I have a question do you know when I can mate my two LPs I had got them both at same time last April 2020 they where both slings also the female is way bigger than the male they both molted alot of times since I had them can you give me an ideal when would be best to mate them thanks
I have heard that there are a blue colllor form of this, liiving on an island outside nicaragua or Honduras or it could be some other country? I have not seen one of this and dont know how blue it is? Or uf this is actualky legit?
Great timing on the this video. I'll be re-housing mine tomorrow. Mine is 1 year old and the growth rate was surprising. This will be the third re-house in 12 months. As always, Great video. I always get a wealth of knowledge from your videos. Being new to the hobby, I couldn't imagine doing this without your helpful guidance.
Hi, Kenneth! I had NO idea people had super fast growing ones until recently. I'm glad that I asked, as mine were all medium growers. And thank you so much!!!
Ooo how pretty ❤️ I'm getting my list narrowed down. I'm looking at G. pulchripes the A. seemani, the A. chalcodes, the L. parahybana, the A. aviculara, the GBB, the C. versacolor and this species. Now I got to pick 1 of those. It's not going to be easy, LoL 😂😆
Just know that you can't just get one tarantula and be happy. You will soon need ALL of your favorite species in your collection. At least, that's how it happened with me. I started with one tarantula and now I have 16 happy Ts. And I couldn't be happier myself! Mostly because all of the tarantulas I keep have different growth rates and personalities, and I love how unique each individual spider is! (I tease, of course. You may be happy with just one tarantula and that's okay too!) Good luck with whichever species you choose! I'm sure you'll love it, tarantulas are an amazing hobby to get into!
All great species, but the species covered in this video should be on that list too. You cannot beat a T. Albopilosus IMO. (as a beginner species anyway)
You’ll end up getting ALL of them on your list, then you’ll make a new list. 😂😂 All the ones on your list are great species, beginner, or not. Good luck with whatever one you chose first.
My t.albopilosus tends to be a bit testy at times. But man, does she grab those crickets! She is my first T and think she was WC because only one month after I got her...BOOM! Egg Sac! Wasn't ready for that Easter Egg! 😆 🤣 But already cried on your shoulder about that. I should mention that Steve, from Archnoiden, assured me, that my T was indeed a pure Nicaraguan. And I'd love to pair her soon. She recently molted and is so fuzzy.
@@gutz323 I freaked when I saw the egg sac. And I watched her daily rolling it around from one corner to another. Or draping herself over it. She'd leave it to drink and then go back. After 30 days I pulled it, wondering if it was viable. I almost panicked when I saw all the ewls (eggs w/legs). So prepared an incubator for the eggs and put that into another large enclosure i made to regulate temp and humidity. About 45 days later I put them into 1 oz deli cups, freakin' took forever. Eventually sold them but kept back 7 for myself. A few friends of mine want a few of those I kept. So, now that I've experienced that...lol, I'm ready to do more. I now have 8 more T's now in various stages of growth. All, are NW dont think im ready for Old World yet. 🙃
@@lindabriggs5118 that's great! I bet it was nerve racking just getting into the hobby with little experience, and finding out your first Tarantula is pregnant, lol! It's great you done the research with no prior experience, and everything went smooth and successful. I bet you felt proud of yourself. Or did you have help from someone with more experience?
Thanks Tom ! This is the only species I have two of . Don't know if they're hobby form or not but they are identical . Is there any way to tell for sure ?
Hi, Dan! From what I've seen, the Nicaraguans look like the first one in the video (darker overall with longer, curlier hairs). The Honduran or hobby forms are lighter with shorter, sparser hairs. That said, it can be difficult to eyeball it without a reference!
@@dankauffman8568 I am no expert, (at all, am new to hobby) but the way I explained it to my husband is: is it hairy, like hairier than a normal T, or does it look like a fluff ball? The hairy ones are hobby and the fluff balls are Nicaraguan.
My Nicaraguan was wild caught and she’s a beast at meal time. I tried tong feeding her a few times and she just flies up the tongs, so now we drop and watch lol. She does seem to prefer some moisture and at 5 1/2” she still burrows all the way down in her 6” of substrate
I'm glad to hear your reply. Mine also is a wild caught female and is burrowing and I didn't think the adults did that. She's a good eater but is terrified of the tongs so I don't do that either. I'm just afraid of putting a cricket in there and she goes into molting.
Lol! That would be like having an ex girlfriend's name tattooed, then having to get it covered and replaced with a new girlfriend's name, and then one day maybe having to do it again lol! I think they have re-named this species 3 times (atleast) if I remember correctly. It used to be under the Brachypelma genus, then it was T. Albopilosum, and now its T. Albopilosus. I think that is correct, is that right?
Just got mine. High probability of female, BUT had a slightly chipped fang when I rehoused her into her new enclosure. It’ll be fixed next molt, but she’s SUPER chill and slow moving. Very friendly and docile. I love her already! I named her Toost
@@TomsBigSpiders thanks! Turns out she has TWO chipped fangs, which were clipped because she was going to be a “live feeder”. Glad they changed their minds. She’s a fantastic eater despite having stubby fangs.
I had my A. hentzi throw a threat pose a couple days ago. Never have seen that from an Oklahoma brown before. They are usually pretty mellow. Could easily be a wild caught since the guy I bought it from had them in the 2” range, and he doesn’t breed his own stock. I think that is why I have been holding off on an A. calchodes; I want a captive bred one.
@@TomsBigSpiders I know that A. seemani can get testy, so I guess it varies on the species. Have never had a hentzi do that before. I haven’t had that many Aphonopelmas. Pretty much only the hentzi and seemani. I have a bicoloratum sling, so I’ll just have to see how that one turns out. Lol. As for captive bred, I’ll keep an eye on the Fear Not site. If no luck with dealers, I may try my hand at breeding them myself.
