It’s about 20 months beyond when this video went up as I post my comment. I also just commented below another demonstration you have done of Take 5, Starsky. Something that I wrote Sequential about this afternoon was the idea of turning that model into a tabletop module. I realize how heavily economized it already is, but I can imagine that kind of revision of the design would definitely make back whatever would be invested in developing and building it
@@StarskyCarr thanks Starsky! Btw maybe you have read it already but it seems the filter resonances is much higher if the VCO levels in the mixer are between 10 and 12 o’clock 🙂 Cheers!
TAKE 5 takes the prize! Thanks for putting together this comparison and offering clarity on both great synths. The TAKE 5 is an awesome synth for the sounds, FX, and the price. Prophet 6 is a great synth but the TAKE 5 is hard to beat. Ignore the haters and play music and be happy. Cheers!
Your channel is so relaxed, it gives me chills in this cruel world. I love your dialect and humor ♡ Have to go back to my Synth now, working on a tune the world would like to listen, if there weren't all the other songs outside
Selling my P6 - gonna try the T5 - love the smooth and compact Mid Sound on these modern Machines - Rev2 was cool but I hated the Mixer Section - thanks for this Comparison! You're on fire rn 😂🔥
Great job! For your next video comparison, it might be interesting to compare the TAKE 5 with the Prophet REV2. Obviously the REV2 uses DCO’s, vs the TAKE 5’s VCO’s, however, being the REV2 (eight-voice), has a more similar price-point, I’m sure there are some limited budget customers that would be interested in the differences. Personally speaking, one feature that I truly love about the REV2, is its capability to split and layer patches (not unlike the Roland Jupiter 8), including the ability to create binaural patches, that produce a huge 3D stereo effect (especially with the 16-voice version).
Both are great, yet different. Actually, the P5/10 is on another level in terms of frequency range. T5 is a little brother or P5/P10 and that makes sense for Sequential to fill that market space.
1. MOD MATRIX very interesting in T5. One day I'll have a used one, but never sell my P6, because: 2. HIGH PASS: P6 high pass filter is a great and underestimated feature. I always tend to use High pass with negative env, while low pass with pos env mod, so the sound opens up in both direction. 3. REVERB: Even tough I have a pair of real spring reverb from Anasound, I think the spring reverb is the best reverb in P6, missing from T5. I like to apply 2BBD with different speed on a sequence, again not possible on T5. All the best share the knowledge, peace!
When I bought my Polysynth, I chose the P6 as I wanted an all analog synth (except the FX), it was that or the OB-6 like your choice, but the Prophet sound was used by more of my fave bands. Nice compare vid as usual dude! Love it, glad I now have my P6. Thank you :)
@@paulmapp8306 Again, my choice was for all Analogue. But with an OB6 you can cover many aspects of the P6 already and with a diverse T5 + Pro3, you have a full bodied Prophet sound for sure.
Nice comparison Mr S. You know, I hate the name “Take5” and that skewed my initial thoughts on this synth but I really am coming around to this little beauty and your videos are directly attributed to this :) I have been seriously considering a Rev2 but wondering now how it stacks up again the T5. Decisions decisions.
There has been some discussion regarding rev2 and the take 5 in other videos comments, have a look. They are 2 very different machines and personal preferences will come into play. Due to the close comparison with the p6 and this is a vco synth plus affordable (and sounds fantastic) I am choosing this over other polys.
@@xntricity6446 yes you are right they do have their differences and each with pros and cons. I'm still swayed to the rev2, it has a lot of user support and I don't think the price will come any lower on the Rev2 as its been out a while whereas the T5 may have some wriggle room over the coming year so maybe worth waiting? Just don't know :)
@@ShaunCymruDS8 I have seen rev 2 used synths around 1000 euros, 250 euro cheaper than the take 5. I think its best to focus on the overall sound, for me the take 5 sounds like it will cover vintage and new synth grit, the rev2 sounds dull and lacks something to my ears so I'm decided, didn't take me long to come to conclusion. Best of luck with your choices 😊
Yeah, they are too different to compare, even … the Rev 2 is a beast, tho … but you either want VCOs … or you want lots of voices, layers, splits, and lots of modulation. Too different.
@@kierenmoore3236 as an update.. I ended up getting a Rev2 and not regretted it one bit.I just love the rounded prophet sound..rich and warm to my ears.
I think the Prophet 6 is clearly the better synth, maybe that is due to more discrete circuitry being used, but the Take 5 has a perfectly usable sound for studio use too.
@@SpikesStudio3 maybe not ~all equal, but I'm thinking about doing something along the lines of "why a/b tests don't work for synths" to try and make the point that most people are not making a decision based only on sound. There's way more factors in synths, so feature comparisons matter way more (which, Mr. Carr is constantly mentioning) But sound vs sound is almost always going to just validate existing opinions for an individual
@@JorbLovesGear People never consider higher end components which to me as along as its not to the level to toyish like Behringer Im ok with. I think this Take 5 will be on my xmas list and maybe marry it with a pro 3 or sub 25.
Jorb its a rabbit hole. Even feature comparisons dont cut it. I understand that reviewers need to quantify the attributes so that consumers have a guide or at least a reference point, but why do i love my analog four as much as my ms-20? Its all about the individuals preference. I feel like i could do a/b tests on any of my synths but "a" is monday and "b" is saturday night (same machine). They will be hugely different. That being said, i love starsky's comparisons. I think when i watch them im trying to find out why they are different instead of how they are different. Kapish? Cheers. P.s. Sorry for off topic hijack
It does amaze me that sequential brought out a product that competes against its own synths such as P5, P6 and Rev2 etc. I'll take the take5 based on price, Vco and sound, absolutely. Thanks for the great comparison, I think they will sell these by the bucket load.
It makes sense to me - it’s probably cheaper for them to make, so the profit margin is similar and people who REALLY want a Prophet 5 are still going to spend the extra to get there anyway, so a bigger chunk of the market = more money for Sequential, however you slice it. Similarly, I don’t think Behringer is - for example - really hurting Moog (people who wanted to spend $5K on a real Model D are still going to spend $5K on a real Model D) but by not having a cheaper “Epiphone-like” sub-brand (I think as a legacy brand, Moog shares many similiarities with Gibson) they’re just leaving money on the table for Behringer to go after.
Oh, and similarly I think my next synth is going to be a Take 5. I could get into Sequential territory for FAR less with a Behringer Pro-800 but despite already owning 4 of their desktop models I’m not going to do that because I’m willing to pay extra for “the real thing”.
@@swid_swid_swid hey there, I agree with what you said above. I did not go ahead with the take 5 only because I fealt the fx had a negative impact on output. It's an amazing Synth but bought a Novation summit and went all out. I bought the pro 800 too and and a fantastic Synth. If your looking for a well capable Synth your not going wrong with the Take 5. Best of luck with your decision
@@chakko007 how does one use a self oscillating filter other than playing it straight? I'm not making a point. It's a sincere question. I've always wondered and never seen a patch that uses resonance all the way up...
@@justinpower4475 Playing the filter is one use case. Filter sweeps with high resonance another. Percussive sounds with fast filter decay time and high resonance another. There are many sounds where high resonance, or even self oscillation can be useful. Of course, it really depends on the music you are making, and whether such sounds are useful for you. 😊 I think, in general, synths do benefit from a lot of resonance, or, preferrably, self oscillating filters. You can always dial back the resonance if it's not needed. But, you can't dial in more resonance, when the filter/synth doesn't allow it.
@@chakko007 sure, but personally I favor that on dedicated mono synths. But it’s sure that if you need it there is no way around it: you can’t fake it or simulate it :) Cheers
@@chakko007 btw today I read that the Take 5 resonance is linked to the vcos mixer level and that at 10 o’clock it does a beautiful instable beginning of screaming 🙂 Apparently after 12 o’clock the scream disappears as the drive gets higher… That sounds very interesting to me 🙂
I know this is asking a lot....but can you compare the Take 5 to a Mopho x4 (with added Mopho module.....so both are 5 voices, would be the icing on top).
Did the comments get hidden when you unprivatized it? I don't see them now. Anyway, update-I got the 6. It's been an absolute inspiration machine. Thanks for the input SC!
Exellent review as usual , i'm on the fence to get a take 5 , but i heard that the enveloppe decay is short , can you comment on that ? Thks for your tremendous work !!
Just got a brand new take5 yesterday. It works pretty good in first 30 minutes and strange bugs started to appear everywhere. After I did a tone calibration everything back to normal again😂And now I still love it more than any synth I've got, but just a little annyoing that it didn't please me all the time.
weird... but you do have to calibrate them quite a few tines before they settle down. They use a temperature map which acclimatises to your studio. It 'remembers' the calibration settings at different temperatures, so the more you do it the more accurate it becomes.
@@StarskyCarr yeah this is exactly what sequential told me. They said it might be temperature difference, but it can’t explain why everything is normal in first 30 minutes. My TAKE5’s problem is that everything is out of tune. But for one preset in Unison mode it is in tune. For others, whether in or not in unison mode the tune is strange. Can’t tell what’s happening but this never happen again since that calibration. Now everything works fine:)
The synth world is so ridiculous... throughout all the 90's and early 2000's if you wanted an analog one or two oscillator synth, you had to actually buy a vintage synth. Even though there was already a market for people wanting these old synths it took them 20 fucking years to start making this stuff again. All throughout the late 90's and the 2000's it was all this shit that made techno music, or samplers, or drum machine/samplers. I think the Microkorg although digital kinda started the path back to "normal" sounding analog synths that actually had knobs you could turn.
Youre so right that its funny. But to me, the best explanation makes sense as to why synths have flared up in the hardware realm again. Nothing replaces the workflow of hardware, that's the problem. Lack of intimacy in front of the synth/vst makes people feel like they don't "own" it, and their "relationships" with their vst instruments never reach the same level of depth that it does with their hardware. It feels cold and impersonal, and lacking immersiveness. Plus, knobs on hi Def screens on pcs are tiny and just getting the mouse to turn the knob the right way can be a challenge in and of itself. It hinders creativity.
Great comparison, thanks Starsky. Ok I admit I’m surprised they sound closer than I expected, I thought the P6 wouldn’t come close. Still think take 5 edges it out, and when you take into account he value for features - the take 5 really seems a much better option. I’d be surprised if P6 sales don’t fall off a lot! Also makes you wonder if in future sequential may not do a premium version with the extra features, more voices & bigger keybed a.k.a a ? Take 10?
It shouldn’t be - I check on meters (but different systems will sound different) - checking by perceived volume doesn’t work as my monitors will be different than everyone else’s. In other words it’s not an exact science / so Maybe yes the P6 is louder for you but not for others.
Difficult choice.... Trying to decide which sits with an OB6 and Pro 3 better.... The Mod options and FX of the T5 or the extra keys, HPF and extra voice of the P6 - providing they both sound nice at a core sound level..... Or indeed if the OB6/P6/T5 is a better mix with no Pro 3 (which I already have).
I have a Take 5 and OB-6. OB-6 sounds better in terms of tone, but the Take 5 is a sound design beast. Plus, being able to modulate FX is pretty sick. I didn’t like the Take 5 sound at first, but as I figured out how to dial it in, the sound really grew on me. The Take 5 is insanely flexible. So if you’re after an OB-6 or Take 5, I say get a used Take 5 and an OB-6 module :)
Did I not demo that? I forget what makes the final edited version. No-one wants to watch the full 2 hours of recording! But essentially the same as the FM to the VCo - which maybe why I removed it - simply repeating the same. you can do it via the mod matrix - but is not as dramatic as the P6… and you can stack mod slots onto the same destination to increase the mod amount. Not as simple as the O6 but doable.
