I'm sure I'm speaking for quite a few people here but I wanted to give you guys a very sincere thanks for doing what you do. I owe most of my technological knowledge and understanding of guitar pedals and amps to your show. There aren't many sources I can go to that have me excited to learn so again, thanks to the entire TPS crew, you guys rock 🤘
@Johan Carlson We could start a TPS Co-op. Maybe incorporate something like Kickstarter and/or GoFundMe. A quasi-Socialist arrangement just for TPS folks, where we buy/trade/share etc. Probably unworkable (and pedal companies might be unimpressed) but the aging Lefty in me can dream...
@@mattgilbert7347 Not that this is what you mean, but the r/letstradepedals and r/guitarpedals on Reddit are "communities" you might want to check out, if you haven't already. i learn a lot, not too too many trolls/and I've saved A LOT of money trading.
It shouldn't shock ANYONE how much fidelity a tape delay can have, as, for years, the music we grew up loving was recorded, mixed and mastered on tape. If the fundamental characteristics of tape were wow, flutter and loss of frequency response, all our favourite songs up until the 90's would sound like they were being run through a flanger, vibrato, and an old Supro tube amp!
Great show, as always! Nothing beats the magic of real tape for me. 5 years ago I bought a 70s tape machine: Vorg (by Pearl) Echo Orbit 1. I have been gigging with it every week since then. Never had any issue. The maintenance is minimal: every year I cut a new made-to-measure tape, clean the heads and put a new drive belt in the engine. No digital emulation ever brought the same smile to my face as this thing. It is not only the EQ or the modulation that make the difference. It’s an indefinable physical experience.
Shane at Echo Fix is a top bloke. He is the only source I have found for Roland parts and tapes that actually work. He really helped me out with parts and advice when I was fixing a couple of Roland Space Echo's for a client. Great to see that now he even has his own tape delay unit.
I absolutely love this channel.. Providing hour long uncut episodes of pure knowledge and tone goodness and a few laughs. Thank you for all of your hard work for us to relax in our seats and learn everything there is to know about effects. I thoroughly enjoy every minute.
One of the great features of the Strymon Volante is the “tape wear” knob. All the way to the left you get the full fidelity of the tape, and the more you turn to the right the less fidelity and darker the repeats become. Then you can add modulation with the “mechanics” knob. Its doesn’t have the exact character of a good analog delay, but it gets that sound pretty darn well.
@Wild Eye Whoa dude I hope that's an attempt at "friendly hassle" (it's not irony or sarcasm) because otherwise, chill the fuck out. Josh is ok. JHS make some cool stuff and his vlog is fun and informative. Unless you're actually Devi Ever in which case I'll show myself out (cool fuzzes, cool chick but...well. I've said enough. It's a dead horse, and I ain't about to flog it).
I love what you guys do, and I adore delay/echo myself as well. Over forty years ago, I was given (yes given!!!) a WEM Copicat Custom dated about 1965- '66ish, it is all valve, and has the most amazing sound. It is still working to this day. It is rather fragile, the case is falling apart, but it's hanging in there. I know it is not on the level of your units, but it has a unique sound all of it's own. I have learned a lot from you two about all kinds of effects and set ups over the years. I know you will, but please keep doing what you do, because we really love what you do...
I echo Kevin's post. Following on from an older Chris Buck video, and from relentlessly watching your video reviews, I bought a Catlinbread Echorec...it has simply been one of the best sounding and most inspirational purchases in years. Thanks...
Finally a old school That Pedal Show in the room with gear and no guest appearances. :) I like what you said about expectation of Tap Echo. I recently got a Giga Delay from Boss, which has a Space Echo (No Reverb) emulation. I was super disappointed because it sounded so clean. I was fully wanting the aged tape effect from the emulation. I had to come to terms with that fact that a "perfect" emulation of tape delay from a Space Echo would be "perfect" with new tape and without the sounds caused by poor maintenance. I also realized that the digital delay sound is actually what they were going for when Tape delay was designed. Perfect repeats. It just wasn't possible at the time and we came to love the "imperfect" sound. Seems to happen a lot with musicians and gear. Fortunately that pedal has a modulated delay, which accomplishes closer to the same thing, so I was still happy. That's a fantastic delay btw. I'm surprised it's never made it onto the show. Also, would people stop complaining about how the Carbon Copy is dark? That's it's sound, and it's a great sound. If this had been made in the 80's by some company in Japan, people would be drooling over it.
If you are a TC electronic Flashback delay user, give a try on the Space (roland space echo), pro guitar shop Andy's EP3 and Steven Wilson Tone Prints. These are great sound delays under tape delay umbrela.
Yet again, some lovely chordage from Dan.A Fab episode. I used a Space Echo extensively in a studio years ago and loved it. Also, as others have commented, that tone with Mick using the Rattler with the D &M drive-oh my word,. Even after a late night gigging this .Inspired me to set up my live rig in the living room and mess around all afternoon-much to the disgust of the cat.. I have a different array of pedals and went off on my own tangent but ended up changing the order of a couple of drive pedals whilst playing with my delay. As you have said before, it is all about being inspired by your gear. Cheers yet again guys.
Just wanted to mention how great the core tone was for this episode. I can't think of a more quintessentially Dan & Mick amp combo than the Two Rock and Dan's new Matchless. It's like a "boutique upgrade" version of the Super Reverb and AC30 setup you guys used to use all the time back in the old Pedal Shed. Bonus: Let me make my regular plea for more Hiwatt. 😁
(VCQ-ish) For all those times someone says, "But this stuff is so expensive! Please feature cheaper stuff!" (Came up on the visit to Jam Pedals video lately...). I just watched Josh Scott's "$50 Pedals That Don't Suck" and he got a complaint in the comments to the effect of, "Not everyone wants cheap stuff - could you please feature some more aspirational gear." (I paraphrase.) To which someone replied: "There's a channel for that: it's called That Pedal Show." So there you go: there's just no pleasing everyone, all the time. One would be a fool to try. So, thanks again for what YOU do! 👍
But the RE-201 looks soo much sexier! (I got one too, with a DC-50 sitting on top) I met Mick, Dan and Rabea along with that Yoshi guy, randomly at a guitar store in Tokyo (Ishibashi, Ochanomizu) last year! It just so happened to be Dan's birthday but I didn't know at that time. (Happy belated b-day Dan.) I used to be more of a Mick fan, but after meeting them Dan was just such a down to earth effects nerd that I'm more of a fan of him now (super genuine nice guy, actually Rabea too, Mick was being like a crazy kid running around the store picking up a metal zone and saying "this is what you've been looking for"). They were looking for a Boss DSD2, which they eventually found at a Hard Off Shop (Crazy name, but the online store is called Hard On...line). Anyways I hope I meet them again someday. (I was surprised to be soo starstruck meeting them. I asked the Japanese people working at the store if they knew them. They said "of course" I couldn't tell cos they weren't freaking out like me.)
The Echo Fix is very tempting! I also agree that the Belle Epoch's control labels are darn near impossible to read. I ended up using my label maker to make it all BOLD and legible! Great show, guys, jet lag and all....
I had lost track of time and didn't realize until I saw this on front page that it's friday! People might be tired with the old delay units at this point... But whenever I see words like Echoplex, Echorec or similar mentioned, I can't keep my pants on. That's how excited I get before even seeing the episode. To think I used to only have reverb from amp and now I have Carbon Copy always on and get excited by just seeing the word echo.
I had the chance to use an Echo Fix in a studio here in Aus a few months back and it was the first time I ‘got’ tape delays. I’d always just assumed it was like an analog delay, but the interactivity between myself, the amp, the guitar and the whole circuit made it feel like the tape delay was it’s own instrument. Maybe it’s just my brain tricking me because these units are physically big, but I’m finding the more I get the chance to use old school style gear like these and Leslies and all the rest of it, how the irreplaceable imperfections and chaos of them inspires the playing!
Love listening to good guitarists play with real tape (and drum) delays :-) The enthusiasm you guys have for (almost) all the gear you bring to the show is very infectious. I do not need a tape delay... I do not need a tape delay... I do not need...
Totally agree on the experience of using real tape - I've just got my hands on a T-Rex Replicator, which is the closest I'm likely to get to the monster echoboxes on show here, but even that blows my tape-style pedals out of the water. Thanks, as ever, for another fascinating show!
I remember the 1980s and how much better the Space Echos (My favorite) and the Echoplexes sounded versus my Boss DM-2. Yes there is magic in the tape, but I am very happy with my standard version Belle Epoch. It gets me 90% there, and it always works.
Mick, Dan is right, your timing is outstanding. Hint on what to do when someone compliments you: just say ‘thank you.’ Period. From a person who long had a problem with deflecting praise. You are indeed becoming one hell of a guitarist.
Humiliating (for me) compliment for you guys... been playing for 30+ years but because I was never a delay user (except in post... recording), I truly never grasped the differences in types until this video... it was like Simon's explaining harmonics. So, please, never refrain from the simple things. I consider myself fairly adept at these things, but because this was a specific area not in my orbit, I was in need of this video because I wanted to get better at this. Most info out there is either childish or you need a degree in aerospace engineering to grasp. I wish the know-it-alls could remember when they didn't know-it-all and appreciate that some of us like learning. Inspiring playing too... thanks gents.
The show must go on! Even with a dub reggae hangover from Greece. A Friday without TPS is like a guitar with a broken string. Dan, man your playing is just divine!
You know you've become a fan of this show when you hear about the weather in Great Britain and the first thing you think is "I wonder how Dan and Mick are holding up?"
Huh. Who would've thought that the secret ingredient to make TPS better was...jetlag. More tangents, connections to past shows (impedience), and the "Airwolf" theme. You boys need to travel more often!
Hi Guys, Fantastic show, so good to hear the difference between the Roland and the Echo Fix. The information that you give us is inspiring, Many thanks and congratulations for a great show.
The EF-X2 is now (2020) built with a true spring reverb so it's similar to the RE501. It also has a digital chorus which you can blend with the reverb.
I was watching the video with headphones no and my other half walks past at 46:52 and goes “oh, cocky’s happy about something”. As an Aussie I’m sure you appreciate that one, Dan - I bloody cracked up! Cool episode, I love me some El Capistan.
Dan, you’re so at home with a delay. Seeing you play, eyes closed and enjoying the sound is magical. Keep it up mate. On another note, I’m aware there is no better or right/wrong. But I have to say my El Capistran is inspiring to play. It turns my guitar noise into guitar music (well... to me at least). And I’ll admit I haven’t played the Belle Epoch nor an actual tape echo.
Cheers chaps lovely sounding stuff all round. There does seem to be more going on with the RE-201, but then apart from the tape the preamp, compander, reverb circuitry and output are all electronics 'of a certain age' doing their thing which adds up I guess, that red light seemed to be on quite a bit as well. Nice reminder of how good the carbon copy sounds with some bright/mid heavy drive too. Hit that long blue note......and let it float. :)
If you don’t want to use an expression pedal for the belle epoch deluxe but still want to always run through the preamp, you can. Flip the switch inside the pedal for trails mode. The pedal is no longer true bypass and instead cuts the signal off at the record head. So you get spill over, no new repeats, and your dry signal still runs through the preamp.
I've been away for a week and stayed offline, except to post about gigs and releases. I came back to FOUR TPS's, and after a 4am start to the day, I've just been LIT UP by "Dan Here, Mick Here". Tomorrow I take receipt of my Gretsch Blue Pearl Sparkle, the second Sparkle Jet in my collection. Can't get enough of that sound. -Which leads me to an idea, and I realise it's a narrow topic, but perhaps featuring TV Jones Gretsch style pickups, Gretsch Filtertrons and their stunning Dynasonic pickups in a show, along with gold foil and silver foil pups might make a cool "alternative pickup selection" show. Tone for days. Thank you, gentlemen, as always.
We want to make you happy, Bleek. And so our good friend Adam from Gretsch is coming to visit us next week with a bevvy of finest G type things. We’re going to get into it! Enjoy that wonderful guitar geezer!
Unrelated to Tape Echo but I had to share: recently, I bought a Nash S-57 and fell in love with it. Something about it’s sound and sanded neck gives me the chills. The strings, however, were a little smaller than my Casino’s flatwound 10s making the transition uncomfortable. When I went out to buy some new strings, I was struck with an even better idea- I would order a set of Mick’s strings (along with stickers and magnets; my first TPS order)! Well, they came in yesterday (after a week in the mail to the US) and were installed last night. I’m loving them. The size and feel of them is fantastic so instead of one, I may have to go back and buy them in bulk as to have them my regular strings. Perhaps, if I ever get a Tele, I’ll try Dan’s out of morbid curiosity but if anyone is curious about Mick’s set- they are utterly fantastic.
Hey guys, love your show and I appreciate the time, experience and knowledge which goes into each episode. I would love to hear you have the Roland RE-201 up against a Roland RE-301 which distinguished itself by adding two new features. The first was a lush, analog chorus effect that was able to be used concurrently or independently from the delay effect to give a pseudo-stereo output option A and B where: A=Direct+Reverb+Chorus B=Echo+Chorus+Sound On Sound. Running the RE-301 with 2 amps is something you need to hear. Additionally, the RE-301 added a new “Sound on Sound” mode, allowing users to loop phrases and then record additional layers on top. This radical concept at the time contributed to the development of “looping”, a phenomenon that would become huge years later
This was like a flashback episode to the original shows just with better audio and video. It was nice to get back to the roots for an episode. The 201 sure does have its own mojo and I'd have to say I'm with Dan, I'd use one live if I could and take the risk, it's worth it. Don't get me wrong I'd have a suitable back up but if it's there to be used, I say use it.
Thanks for that very public demonstration of how and why it's so easy to get lost in time when playing with delays. I can spend hours faffing about with them and so it seems, can you guys. :)
Dan and Mick… Another great show! Love spending my Saturday mornings with you guys. Sign me up for the “Twidge Authentic” T-Shirt and coffee mug! Future vlog subject for Dan is just locking him in a room with tape delays and recording his guitar face when he’s in the zone… Priceless!
Always laugh when Mick does a non-confrontational ask of Dan to move or readjust something, and Dan makes necessary adjustments (with a chuckle this time). Haha! Just a little thing, but it shows yalls (I’m from Kentucky) professionalism. Love the videos guys seriously, keep up the great work!
Y’all is an improvement to the English language. Much clearer that it is indeed plural instead of “your” (can be singular or plural resulting in unnecessary ambiguity).
You need to check out Nocturne pedals. For about 10 years this one man shop has been obsessively going after the Space Echo in pedal form. His Dyna and Mystery Brain perfect the preamp part... an essential part of the Space Echo and a beautiful thing on its own. About a year ago he released the Mystery Brain which adds the delay side. Absolutely brilliant. Many of his oldest fans are going after the Gretsch/Brian Setzer thing, but his pedals have much wider application.
I'm a dinosaur that owned and used RE-201s, EP-3s back when. I love tape but these days the digitals are so spot on, there is no reason to be burdened with the hassles. In fact, I like the Flash Back the most out of those....
Love the Roland tape delay. Dan and Mick really dig you playing y'all got some killer groves going . I'm having a Ep 3 rebuilt to add to the collection. If I keep it maintained well dare I gig with it any thought would be great . Thanks for all the information and knowledge . Cheers and have a great weekend.
"It was literally what you were playing.... just different notes". Eric Morecambe said something very similar many years ago but it was still properly laugh out loud funny. Thanks guys. And whilst I'm typing I'll echo (my co-subscriber) Kevin Yost's sentiments; thanks for all you do. Friday evening, TPS plus a G&T or two; fab-u-los
Man I wish you would have heard the Space preset on the flashback x4. Since Dan likes the reverb in the Roland unit, I love the verb mod type of tone you get out of that space sound. So good! Great show as always, hope you guys get some rest!
100% agree with Dan’s comment about getting your hands on gear and properly trying it for yourself. It’s one thing to know your favourite artist uses such and such gear and know what it sounds like on a record. It’s another to have tried it in a shop with those store assistants with amazing chops (you know who I’m talking about!) and sales expectations hovering around and the random Saturday morning audience listening and putting you off. It’s another thing trying stuff with no pressure, exploring it and finding if it’s for you. Very important is trying with your existing kit, guitar, amps etc...Most don’t get the chance to try “holy grail” stuff and can only read about it and have to vicariously work out what’s for them by other means. (I have bought stuff solely on the basis of TPS episodes!) But if you can get your hands on the good stuff you can find out if it works for you or not, Happy days. I know I’ve tried plenty of “highly rated” kit that did not work for me and have tried cheap and accessible stuff that worked for me despite other’s opinions. The only way to work out if it’s good for you is try it in an unpressured situation. I have plenty of Saturday Morning Purchases that sit shiny in a box. Also there’s lots of psychology here. Why do I fret over what others think of my gear choice if it works for me? Is fear of disapproval another unacknowledged “sense” that we taste pedals with......? In the middle of the gig often the only person that knows is you. But that still counts more than we realise! Some of the kit that works for me wouldn’t even interest Poohead!
This episode Dan & Mick take two benedryl and still attempt to do the show! J/K Love you guys, Great Episode!!! God that Rattler is gonna break me of my pedal apathy. I've got so many pedals over the last few years I had actually burned out and started a new money pit habit, eurorack modular synth. But man I need a Rattler!!!!!
Well, obviously the description of this show should have been size matters....lol. Some absolutely great tones our these effects - always love the comparison of analogue to digital. Love watching the mechanics of the echo tape - mesmerizing. Thanks guys - great comparison and review.
Airwolf: Knight rider in a helicopter. Exactly how I described it to my kids the other day. Loved both of those shows as a kid. My brother tried to make his hair look like the pilot in that show 😒. Mick and I are about the same age so makes sense we both liked those shows.
Did I miss the new studio back wall layout? Looks amazing! Loving the wood on the back wall...much warmer, almost tube amp like ;). Keep up the great work, D&M!
Great show as ever. Out of interest when you have two delay styles on your board, the Epoch and ADRX20 for instance, do you use them for different duties/songs or are they always working together?
Thanks for clearing a lot of my confusion chaps... to you this is fairly simple, to me its like looking in the mirror and seeing someone else reflection... 🤠
nice work. the re-201 is like a leather shoe that has been worn in a little. it fits in ways that a new shoe or rubber shoe doesnt. I wish the flashback was 2 or 3 delays (at the same time) and a looper.
Would love to try the real deal. Maybe someday... I’ve been using the Strymon Volante and Fairfield Circuitry Meet Maude for my delays. I can’t have a board without tape (emulation) and analog. Love them both too much...
The theme from Airwolf! "It's just like that but with different notes" Bwahahaha!!!!! 😆 I gotta bank that line away to use on the next available victim.
I agree with former viewer. Thank you both for doing this great show, the learning for players increases with every show. Dan mentioned on other video about him going to a Steve Vai show. Dan please talk to Steve about appearing on TPS and get Joe Satriani´s, Marty Friedman´s and Vinnie Moore´s emails. It would be great to have all these Guitar Masters appearing in TPS. Keep rocking and prosper.
Man it's good to see that 200k have subscribed, I'm so happy for you guys. Another great episode. The RE-201 sounds so luscious, nothing stacks up against it really. After watching TPS and chatting to Mick I brought the Belle Epoch Deluxe and it is good, but man does it dampen down the high end sparkle. The merch is all good, but TPS pedals seem to get snapped up pretty quick! Let's have a TPS Fuzz (TFP)!!!
This episode was so good, I have no clue what anything was as I just got so lost in the echos. Everything just sounded great, one of those things it’s just as easy and great to get lost listening to as it is to play. Got to wondering what the honk would be like through the wall of echo early on... likely still be honking...
I had a Replicator Jr (which is supposed to be cleaner and brighter than the original) and it had as much fidelity as a bucket brigade delay and the warble was worse than my BED with the modulation maxed out. Very disappointing, I sent it back.
