@@citrosoda5370Not really It was the efforts of our Navy's Doctrine that was based around the Carrier that truly brought about their demise Also if they were truly wise they woulda stopped trying to build more of their Battleships in the first place
if you think about it, there's too much reality checks in history. Mongolian Empire's invasion of Japan in Middle ages, Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022, Japan's invasion of US in WWII, and so on. Happens almost every war.
The Japanese were never actually genuinely expecting their troops in Washington, this song is just propaganda. Their real goal was to hopefully force the Americans fighting in both sides and hopefully get them to negotiate a favourable term for the Japanese, they never even expected to land in mainland US. Obviously, as it turned out, that was also pretty under estimating the Americans as well.
This is strictly for morale, not even propaganda. When I went through officer training for the USAF (yeah, air force, I wasnt even some 11B army guy), we'd march and sing a Jodie similar to this song. It went something like "I can march to Beijing. I can march to Moscow" etc. I did not expect people to take the Japanese version so literally, as even the Japanese Generals at the time knew they could not invade US, and would lose in a prolong war. People forget they just wanted to give us a painful 6 months to hopefully get us out of the war
@@Wabu_227 they did however try to fire shells at the forests on the west coast to start forest fires. They also planned to infect themselves with the bubonic plague, run onto the US mainland, and start coughing on people. The Imperial Japanese were nuts man
@@Ultramarine_Supovar In Japan, there were a lot of idiots on the commander's side. However, as a result of the attack on Pearl Harbor, most of the Japanese military realized that the future was an age of air power.
@@beast8627it is not rightful to call them idiots they’re far more competent than any of us here imagine if your told that very soon tanks will be very much useless would you believe it?
Not really. The average person in the West doesn't gaf about what Japan did and would rather consume their slop of japanese culture kawaii desu than actually hold the government accountable. Hate the double standards where under any post about China especially non political ones it'll be like Tian an men square lololol and then under a post about what Japan did in WWII will have defenders that aren't even rage baiting. Its always the non asians too because most asians understand what Japan did to this day.
No one doubts the atrocities of the Japanese Empire, at least not outside Japan, but the constant bragging about the destruction of two cities and the killing of at least 130.000 civilians seems distasteful to say the least.
@@francois-mariearouet9379Thats not even the worst we did. Most Americans are just high on corn syrup. Don't ask what happened to 1 million women in Berlin. Or thousands of women in Tokyo. Or the 1 million wehrmacht POW's that vanished under General Eisenhower's administration after the war had ended. (Hint no food)
lol tru i think its funny how the lyrics say that they will make them pay for their atrocities while japan straight up commited some incredibly terrible atrocities themselves in ww2
@@deo7320But some are more crueler than others, which is of course Japan is more cruel compared to lets say... Vietnam? Or maybe Philippines? Indonesia? Malaysia? Singapore? Thailand? Papua New Guinea? Timor Leste? These are all the lands the Japs conquered, do tell how they were as cruel as the Imperial Japanese.
@@user-pw9tt1ez8w Never ask a Jap what they did with the local Ainu population in Hokkaido. come on, this game of who's who's is boring don't you think?
@@cf8613 I'm not even Chinese 💀 also how were they more barbaric than the evil Japanese, may I add? You sound like an average sweaty Tojoboo to me, lmao
@@sugar_tanaka'Where victory is already decided' ? If the US hadn't dropped the atomic bomb, they would have faced Japan's insane 'ichioku kyusai' operation. Had it been executed, the US would have had to send a lot of American soldiers to the japanese mainland and they would have faced many casualties like in iwo jima. Dropping the atomic bomb was a reasonable choice from America's viewpoint. Don't play the victim.
He probably would. Sure they lost, but the American occupation was short and relatively lenient to Japan and left it one of the world's most developed countries
@@matiasp.9089 thank you so much, seems nitrorad deleted the video on mogeko then someone re-uploaded so it has to be based, looks spooky yet cute I love it lul
The main reason they antagonised the USA in the first place was because of US embargoes on Japan that greatly affected their oil supply, which would have been really important for Japan to take over a large country in the first place
@@yobalmer8936 They would be an ally of themselves. Japan would have no reason to bend over to the U.S demands like it and Europe do in the present. Its sad how they have become just another U.S base against China.
In an alternate world where the US wasn't a great power to begin with, sure. California itself is bigger then Japan, now imagine trying to govern the entire Pacific states including Alaska while millions of American guerrilas fight you at every corner.
Impossible Japan trying to controll China a country with twice its own population and invading Americas west coast would be impossible especially when the Americans are armed to the teeth and too proud to be conquered
Okay but I can 100% see this as a victory song in man in the high castle. The lyrics can be like "the American morale is gone. Washington DC was nuked by the Reich, and California fell into our hands!"
@@jeevestherobot what are you laughing about? brazil has the largest japanese community after japan. No way you are thinking all brazilians are black lol. The south in Brazil has the third biggest community of germans too.
Props to FDR for writing a speech that makes me write the date wrong for the entire month. Date: December “7th, 1941… a date that will live in infamy!”
Nah, I'm not letting you get away with a "both sides" argument on this one. Get real bro. Do you even know which war this song is about? Are you dense?@@mirrorocean3852
@@fidemporas Yes, I am Japanese, and it is true that the Japanese Empire committed brutal war crimes. If we focused on one thing, such as the massacre in Manila or the oppression under Indonesian rule, we would be comparable to the Nazis. ...That being said, it's sad that Japan is being looked down upon today. I love Japanese culture. I sincerely hope that you all learn about and reflect on humanity's bad history, and move forward toward a brighter future. Please forgive me for my poor English.
@@user-ow7no4fu5k Yeah, You write that, but The Japanese in WW2 committed the massacre in Nanjing, China and massacre in Manila, Philippines. Colonized Korea in 1910. Forcing Koreans to work in the coal mines. Let’s not forget about comfort Women. The point is most countries have a dark past. You shouldn’t hate a county because of past actions that were done by a couple of people that happen to be affiliated by a particular country. Hating on modern day Japan and their people because of the stuff that some of their ancestors or not even their ancestors but previous generations of Japanese did is idiotic. Hating on the United States of America and their people because of the stuff that their previous generation did is also idiotic. I hope you have a wonderful day or night when you read this my friend.
@@Katipunan-KKKAlso anyone from: Vietnam, Cambodia, North Korea, Chile, Argentina, Nicaragua, Mexico, El Salvador, Democratic Republic of Congo, Iran, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, and of course, Palestine. That doesn't even get into slavery and later Jim Crow being upheld in the US itself until 1968.
i saw that j pop appeared in my "categories i like" section in the menu i instantly went "WHAT THE HELL??" as i dont listen to that stuff i click it this comes up day saved. thank you very much ingen
It is difficult to evaluate the Japanese Empire from 1930 to 1945. For too many opinions are bizarre. Some exaggerate, some recount history that may or may not be true, and some spread the transparent lie that "Japan never apologized." As ideologies, the Nazis aimed for purity and exclusion, while the Empire of Japan aimed for assimilation, so the two are sometimes easily equated, even though they differ in the usual sense. Some people assume that because of the long history of the country of Japan, little is taught about World War II, ignoring the limited number of pages that can be devoted to modern history. In fact, very little knowledge is taught to Japanese people through education. All the average Japanese person knows is that "Japan started the war, did a lot of terrible things, and lost when the atomic bombs were dropped. So, some Japanese are crammed by people from other countries and, defeated by the amount of knowledge they have, say, "We Japanese are ignorant about World War II. (Whether that is really correct and necessary knowledge or not). ...It is really difficult to understand. I just want to enjoy listening to this song, but the comments here are full of sorrow.
One year in high school, one of the candidates for class president put the imperial Japanese flag as the background of all of they posters and argued it was naval flag.
"The number of battleships you build doesn't matter" You know, they were right about this one. It didn't matter. Not when we had more carriers than they had battleships.
Remember, Admiral Yamamoto's "boast" about dictating peace terms in Washington was actually a warning that "this is what we'll have to do if we want to win this war. Are we sure about this, guys?"
When the song in the beginning mentioned the 8th of December, that was a reference to Pearl Harbor right? Pearl Harbor, however, was the 7th. Was this a translation error or typo, or was this in the actual song?
