few important things to this playstyle: at early game, use 10ammo magazine even if u pay 13k from it, just buy ONE 10 round magazine and keep it inside your insured weapon, insure the magazine too, as long as you dont have silencer, you will probably get it always back. for reloading use 5ammo magazines. also with ammo, buy the best ones but keep stack in your safe container and only chamber + first magazine or even only 2-5 first shots with good ammo and rest of magazines loaded with budged rounds.
Gettem in the kneecaps! Funnily enough that clip was from a long time ago, when I was trying to complete punisher for the first time ever :) learned not to skimp on ammo that day!
I personally run an ADAR, which for me, even at 80k, comes out as a "budget" weapon... get a battery, trade for an ADAR, change gas block, put on a better muzzle brake, exchage base stock for a regular M4 pistol grip and put on a stock, get some M855A1... the problem with budget weapons in tarkov is, the richer you are, the cheaper good budget attachments become (since they are usually overpriced on the flea). I mean, at level 42 I can justify a MP7A1 as a budget weapon (slap on a flashlight and sight) since subsonic SX and FMJ SX is very cheap, which in my opinion is unfair because the only thing expensive about MP7s is ammo and mags if you are a lower level player... lesson of the day is, just spend all day playing the game and eventually you can probably run some of teh best guns in the entire game as a budget option
Very true. Which is why these days I try to focus on efficient guns for low level players - once you're 40+ and have a decent hideout you don't even need to be efficient any more because you're likely printing money at that stage
@@michaele.1843 You can still buy an ADAR for 23k Rubles on the Flea Market, let's say 10k more than a battery costs. I don't think that 10k or maybe 15k more will let you run out of money.
Haven't had a chance to test if it holds zero, but mounts just fine and has nice clear glass. Centered vertically true to a plumb line with the crosshairs which is always a plus!It's a great ru-vid.comUgkxc4K63Fd5LglDMObu7-Bgapxp_ef0W8hE scope. There's no parallax adjustment or focus ring, so may be limited to 3-7x, have to see how it is on the range. Also be aware that the rings are "look through" so you can still use irons, but they are really tall if you only intend to use the optics. On a 22LR no biggie since I'm not shooting competitions or worried about a hard cheek press. Will boresight and range test, if all goes well, I'll leave it at that!
I ratted so hard the other day with the hunter, killing 4 out of a 5 man squad after they took down reshala. They heard and felt the wrath of the hunter but only the last guy ever saw me. Had to go for the loot didn't I.
One that I’ve come pretty fond of for cheap, without having a crazy height over bore, is the cheap Pilad scope on the SVD low profile mount, shortens the rifle a little and keeps the same function. It’s my new Shooter born in heaven tool
I just got one of these puppies with silencer, 10 round mag (+4 bonus) and a rail with a red dot from a scav run at level 4. Couldn't be happier. Time to live my rat dreams lol
the sks and shotguns is the best budget weapon imo, you have a chance of getting bp ammo from your scavs or raiders and it can be loaded internally or with magazines. BP 2-3 taps most geared players and no one will really take an sks especially a stock one. Vice versa with the shotgun, magnum buck is great for face taps and since most players dont run face shields thats an ez kill.
I feel that the Sks and the hunter are quite interchangeable, except m80 is quite a bit better than PS. Sure BS is decent but it's pricey for new guys. For some reason I never got on with the Sks tbh, personal preference
@@Gigabeef once you accept the SKS with 20 round mags etc. you realize there's a VEPR that behaves much like the SKS (136 was it?) - and then once you're there you might as well just run a 7.62 AK
Svd stock, silencer, SVD low mount, Valday, 2 rounds of M993 (the bullet velocity so lack of bullet drop is insane) in the top of two mags and its my favourite long range clicking on heads gun in the game. And it looks sweet. The best shooter born in heaven set up IMHO
With the introduction of thermal goggles an ACOG with the backup irons are one of the best long range builds you can buy. Those irons allow you to actually aim with the goggles on but you can still opt for the scope with it off. It's essential on sniper rifles with thermal goggles.
I wish the RFB was way cheaper and had better recoil so it'd be a better but more expensive alternative to the Hunter Peacekeeper sells it for more than 60k...
Man I love yori content and I was shocked when I saw that you don't have tagt many subscribers! You should definitely have more because you help me and others so much with your videos
Great video man. And I agree with your points. Except for the mags. I would actually recommend going for the 10 rounders. They are a little more expensive but if you just do a scav run on shoreline, avoiding players and going after caches, you'll make enough to buy enough mags on the Flea Market. I can survive to extract doing this probably 80+% of the time. I'm total shit at the game and even I can do this haha, so I would think most others could.
I guess I could have given an alternative - because if you are going to spend 15k on 10 rounders, you may as well pick a different gun was my theory. I had another discussion with someone about the SVD as an alternative, which is about 60k on the flea at the moment, the mags are only 5k each. Worth thinking about rather than spending 30k on two 10 rounders for the hunter!
Great channel, I've found your videos so helpful as a new player! I'm sure that with consistent, quality content like you've been putting out you'll gain more traction in no time
The .366 VEPR is also a good choice for lower level players if you can buy the 30 round mags for cheap. The .366 ap rounds are fairly cheap for the clap they deliver. 90 dmg and 42 pen is insane for a round that is only 500 roubles on the market. Early wipe, I almost always use the .366 ap rounds and a vepr cause it claps, the iron sights aren't terrible, and the rounds are really good. It comes with a BIG hit to accuracy and recoil but it's a great round that can one shot most class 4 armors.
I'm doing a no flea market wipe when the game wipes, so the hunter is going to be my bread and butter. I think the flea market kinda destroys Tarkov and I hope they remove it, but the only thing I can do is apply for test servers and practice for when they inevitably do remove it. The only thing getting rid of the flea market is going to do to me is make it harder to get certain cases and keys, but over all I think it will be more fun. Good informative video as always Mr. Beef, the new players really could use these kinds of videos, I remember trying to learn the game last wipe and I never even used the vepr hunter.
No flea market wipe is a super idea, I just wish there was some kind of mode for it like hardcore or whatever so you're playing against others with the same limitation :)
@@Gigabeef oh the player base will get a hardcore mode when the flea market is removed and I’m one of the few acclimated. I just wish the US East servers good luck for when it happens because I will be Top Banana and they will be Chimp Chump
I prefer the AK74 with BT rounds. The hunter is pretty limited when it comes to close quarters engagements, but if you only plan on engaging the enemy at a distance the hunter is a good choice.
Ah yes the Vepr Hunter with M80 or better is dirt nasty sledgehammer. Usually only get you in trouble in QCQ but if its a 10 mag i usually prevail because of the rapid firing. Usually use a ADAR with a 30 mag if unavaiable or as a substitute even thou its weaker. Mag tips one: some people just throw everything up for sale so if you see a Vepr Hunter for 30k & one 31k but the 31k has the larger 10k 10 round mag you can still save by getting the more expensive one. Mag tips two: dont forget that you actually see if a mag on the fleamarket has round in it or not & perhaps even the type of round too. Of cause you have to open each auction indiviually and tip the mag to see. Also if there are round are they green or gray (usually cheapo ones) or golden (usually M80 or better). I mean M80 is 300-400 R and M62/M61 or better is usually at least 1k R. It is possible to buy a 10 round mag for 10k & have it have 20k worth or rounds in it. Rare of cause & sometimes mags are only partially full, but early days every "penny pushed" helps ;)
Great points! The ammo check in the magazine used to be much more useful when you could resell on the flea but that's a cool use for pre flea early game :) the five seven is similar on mags, most of the time they go for more than the gun so always worth putting up separately!
If you want to see this weapon used effectively check out Sharptooth on Twitch. He uses it almost exclusively and regularly cuts down geared squads with M62
Great video! I was wondering what your opinion on the rfb is? For me it's replaced the hunter, as for the slight cost increase you get an easy scope mount, as well as cheap access to 20 round mags. Do you feel like the hunter is overall still the better budget pick?
For pure budget I still think so. Its variable but right now seems to be 45-50k - honestly it's a close contender though, if you can spend a little bit more it might be worthwhile. One of the great things about the hunter is the PSO though, its a fab scope and you'll have to pay a bit more to use an elcan or something. The RFB also has laser issues like the hunter does, so no improvement on that part
My gun progression so far was M4 1-10, RFB 10-18, M4/Vector9mm 18-26, Vector .45/Ak with 7n39 till 40. RFB was killing it till i got m855A1 at lvl 18, really surprised how good it felt even with the bad stats. But for the price and with m80s was just dropping everyone running T4 and lower. For fun id throw in the saiga 12g or KS-23, leg meta still strong as ever. Also i think the RFB > Vepr soley for the mags. RFB gets 20 rounders at lvl 2 Peacekeeper vs Vepr needs Jaeger 3/4 for the 10 rounders or dumping money on flea market mags.
M80 is so strong early wipe, just rips through lv4 easy. RFB is a good shout tbh if you're sustaining well on money, and can get those 20r mags. On M855A1, there's a reason people use it right until the end game!
Vepr hunter has to be one of my favorite weapons on early wipe but only downside i see on it is low magazine capacity and that you really cannot mod it much for higher ergo and lower recoil
Been getting back into Tarkov recently and my squad gets pisses when I being in my TOZ as a secondary but the feeling you get giving a mid tier player a face full of buckshot after you dump a PPSH into the armor is 👌 #🐀⏰
@@Gigabeef love your content by the way it’s very well said and planned out! Keep making great content, I can’t wait till you get big and get the recognition you deserve! 💯
I wish they add more Molot firearms, there are some interesting chamberings there, and they offer more of an AK ergonomics overall, especially given the 350-mm barrels on some of those, which would be rather useful in confined spaces.
Still prefer stock adar with 20 round mags. 15 m855a1 and 5 m995 in two mags. It's cheaper, lighter, more ergonomic, more moddable, cheaper to suppress, takes elcan, and super low recoil. Since with the bigger ammo you still want to aim for headshots cuz of arms and unreliable chest hits, I would rather use an easier weapon and spam for the head. I used to use hunter though.
Thing is... Even taking that tiny amount of ammo costs about 40k from the flea. The hunter is more for people who don't have access to this level of ammunition etc
@@Gigabeef once I get pk3 which doesn't take very long, the 5a1 is cheap af. I buy 11 m995 which is like 25k but you could just have top 3 rounds be m995. But yes, before pk3 I consider vepr hunter and I do splurge a bit on m62 ammo there as well. M80 doesn't have the pen I'm after.
Akms can be upgraded with recoil pad bringing it down another 5% while not going to argue akm is better since it is just pointing out for budget build can get a akmsn further
Pretty sure you can put the recoil pad on basically any of the default stocks, including the wooden one that comes with the akm - such a good attachment
I actually believe there is a better one the rfb. It's 40~50k as better ergo cheap 20 round mags with low ergo penaltie and it isn't all that expensive for the benefits
I might do something on the RFB to be honest, it's slightly more in money but more accessable early and a bit better overall. Hunter is still the overall value winner on pure price imo which you can tell as people use it to get the 100 killa kills, but its super close!
10:35 I know I'm two years late, but did I miss the part where you said we could have the PSO scopes and the TT01 with red dot mounted together?! I know you mentioned them both early in the scope section, but seeing them together was somehow a revelation for me Hm, it even looks like you had the gun set up that way at 4:52 but either I didn't notice, or you didn't fully explain...
One thing i would like to know is how you know the specific price of peacekeeper bullet purchases, maybe im missing something thats common sense but when i see two rounds at $2 for instance i dont seem to see a way to tell besides just purchasing like 100 and doing the math
You don't need to actually buy them, it updates the sale price before you press 'purchase' but yes exactly that, you try to buy 100 and see what it comes to!
Can we get some separate budget weapon video about shotguns? I know there's not much modding there and some of it was in the budget guns for PVP video but still :D
I nearly did one in the past but my shotgun experience was pretty bad last wipe and I never found the right framework for it, perhaps I will try again once I get to those quests this wipe :) I never use them normally tbh
Flechette I find really 50/50, ap20 seems more consistent to me but saying that regular buckshot to the face is also pretty good so long as they're not wearing a face shield, and I got annihilated the other day by a leg meta guy with magnum buck in a 153... That also seems to be pretty effective lol
Being in 7.62x51 caliber, this one would be a nice early gun option, but considering the fact that the mods needed for it to be fairly good are locked behind near mid-game levels, this option doesn't seem viable anymore.
IMO The SP isn't really good at anything, so I like the BPZ more for scav hunting, because you don't have to be super accurate with it like the nozler round, but it will still one or two-tap most scavs. Combine that with a suppressed weapon, and you don't have to worry too much about PMC's while hunting scavs either.
Equipping a hunter is always going to be a bad idea once you realize AK-103's are sold on the flee with 25 rounds of 7.62 BP in them. That's 5 shitty Hunter mags. When comparing an AK-103 stock + recoil pad, the hunter has 250% more recoil and no full-auto capability. If you want 7.62x51, buy an M1A with the S.A.S.S chassis, MOE stock and 20 round mag All-in-one from the flee for 70k and use m61/m62. Only use m80 for fun, 7.62x39 BP is better for the reason stated above. There is an effective argument for using the vepr Hunter which presents itself after death. It is so undesirable that players will ignore it, much like the PM pistol. It is also a gun of habit, like the mosin rifle. In past wipes players were tasked to use the mosin more regularly and due to this process players became comfortable with using it. The SVD is obviously the superior choice
I gave up on the hunter previously, due to thorax changes and addition on .366 AP ammo. Do you prefer hunter over VPO as it's not a bolt action? Typically hunter costs more so that was my thinking.
Yeah I never use bolts in tarkov, no real need other than 'cool factor'. Follow up shots are just too difficult! 366ap is a good round, and I guess it's not too expensive if you're only firing a bolt, but m80 is so much more easily acquired once you get pk2
I know this video is almost a year and a half old at this point, but in 12.12 I'm pretty certain you can no longer run the variant shown at 10:40. No scope sits high enough where the red dot is visible underneath. Correct me if I'm wrong, I spent about 300k trying different sights and mounts with a backup reddot, and was unsuccessful.
I just tried and you can fit it with a few mounts and 2 of the 3 PSO scopes, just not the PSO-1M2-1. Not all of them are useable, but the preset editor is a much easier way to look at this rather than buying all the parts, you can kind of see in the weapon preset view: i.imgur.com/WJr0su8.png My advice is to start with the TT-01 added, and then try to see what scopes/mounts let you attach afterwards
I like the AK74N, the gun itself goes from 18k to 25k, and you don't need a lot of mods to make it effective, tough I usually spend around 20k with them. The main advantage of it is the BT ammo that is always between 150 and 300 making it a great cost benefit for something that can go through LV4 armor. Then when I get more money I go to ASVALs because 9x39 is op.
Great guide, using this on woods for scav kills. Does the job. Only thing is that I cant attach 10 round metal mags to the rifle, do I need some other part or different stock? Im using the stock preset by the way.
@@Gigabeef I bought the 10r mags from flea because I dont have trader leveled up. I tried different ammos from your video guide but the mag is incompatible. Will keep looking into it I'll get there eventually. Thanks anyway, Im getting quests done with this cheap build so that's enough for me. Great work on the content.
@@Gigabeef Fixed it Beef, it was my fault I had also made a preset with a Molot VPO and I was trying to stick the metal mag from Vepr into the VPO. Rookie mistake lol. Thanks for the feedback though. Keep up the good content. Subbed and thumbs up.
I’m new to tarkov. What’s a ultra low recoil full auto build? Every gun I found or build has crazy recoil. But after modding then it’s 75-90k. Which I can’t afford.
To get ultra low recoil you have to pay the price! The vector is very low straight away, but about that much as a base price. Mp5sd from pk2 is pretty low, same with mpx. Mainly you'll have to focus on 9mm if you want low recoil for cheap, but the rounds are expensive for the good stuff so you always pay somewhere! Budget full auto 5.45 guns are like the ak74n with basic comp and a buttpad on the stock. Rpk stock has decent base recoil also
M1a is about 2x the price. Most other guns in 7.62x51 are better, but the hunter is cheaper than all of them. RFB is a closer choice imo as its only 1.5x the price
Good vid, very informative. But you should slow down your talking a bit. Had to watch the video on 0.75x because i couldn't comprehend what you were saying. Especially for a beginner like me, all these names and different types are confuising as heck. But still, i'm gonna check out a few of your other videos. See if you have more useful tipps.
@@Gigabeef Respectfully, I found your pace to be perfect here. It's a lot of good information, may require a couple rewatches no matter what. Your speed makes it much easier to take it all in.
You can't use a scope and irons interchangably yet, it's something people have been asking for but not in yet. The only way is having a red dot and a scope currently
It's another option. I just always got on with m80 better than 762 PS for pure value, although ps is great early wipe. I think the hunter is better now everyone's running l4+
To be honest I did it with an m4 but any will do. Tx is the premium if you're going all in, I used m4 to stay versatile if I needed to kill someone close up
Personally I dont like vepr hunter for low lvl, because 5 round mag is useless and hunter have big recoil. On my opinion much better is SKS with VPO scope, or cobra colimator (10k +- both) and 20 ammo magazaine. Weapon cost is 20k on flea. Can be silenced with hexa for 25k +- on flea. BP round cost is 1 500 per one bullet, but you need 21 in weapon and 20 in second mag and some ammo in secure container. If you buy weapon, ammo, headset and 4 armor (without helmet) your price is 200k+- and you can easily kill full gear player on mid/long distance. Short distance is bad, but MUCH better than 5 round hunter... And this all you can cheap buy from LL1 traders or flea.. Only 4 armor rig (50k) need ragman LL2. 200k is one scav run with absolute trash picking... In 1v1 front fight unskilled players who needs budget build havent much chance because of skill, but when you surprise someone SKS wins the battle. On jeager LL3 is MAYBE 10 round hunter better, but it must be m61 ammo and its cost is 2 500 for one bullet. And on short distance you have huge disadventage because 10 round mag is pretty small for hip firing..
Some good points, a fair analysis. I like that m80 is so accessable early and decent for the cost, 21+20 762 BP you're talking 60k rubles which is getting pretty expensive for something you can't get back on insurance imo, but it definitely can work to kill people I agree. 5 rounders are the worst part about the hunter but you'll likely get the 10r back on insurance if you buy one or two from the flea and die with it
IMO is The Vector or PP-19 the Best Budget Weapon ... , no Recoil , Cheap and good ammo The Hunter is Overrated imo , M61 ammo and Mags are NOT Cheap , Before i use the Hunter i can Recomend the RFB
You don't need m61 to run the hunter :) m80 is fine for budget - mags are annoying I agree as its the hunters biggest issue. RFB is quite a bit more expensive, although is a better gun generally I will admit. But that's why its not as cheap! Dovetail on the hunter for pso is one of the main reasons why it's so cost effective
Hunter is not very good. If you use m80 with it, the .366 AK is cheaper, less recoil, easier to mod, can use dirt cheap 30 round mags and .366AP is a monster of a round. If you use any other ammo, it's cheaper and more effective to run an svds with snb. And IIRC you get access to the 10 round mags way earlier than 10 round hunter mags.
You can't buy 366 ap until way later from mechanic 4, is the problem. Also it has insane range accuracy debuffs - it's good damage/pen though And the SVD is like 60-70k so quite a bit before even putting a scope. If you wanted to go for something else the RFB is probably what I would suggest
@@Gigabeef 60-70k for SVDS - 400-500 for SNB. 35k for hunter - 1500+ for m61/62. The price difference disappears after just a couple mags of bullets. For RFB it's even worse because it's almost as expensive as a naked SVD. .366AP is available from the flea at lvl 10 for cheap, last I checked 700 a pop, no vendor rep required. Or at mechanic lvl 2 for workbench 2, at which point it's about 400 rubles a pop. You can also buy them directly from mechanic level 3, not 4. finally, .366AP with the vepr AKM has somewhere between 2,95-2,99 MOA (can't remember the last digit), which is more than enough up to 200-250m especially with the 90 flesh damage. So unless you plan on sniping people in woods, .366AP is simply the better round because there just isn't that many locations where you can snipe people where the difference between 1 and 3 moa isn't negligible.
I'd argue if you're running m62/m61 you probably shouldn't be running so budget - I do love the SVD though, its good value stock too. Point taken on 366, I don't run it due to the previously mentioned accuracy issues, forgot they moved it to ll3 mechanic. I tried it a few times and felt like I had more issues hitting at medium distance, not something I've extensively tested tho
@@Gigabeef I just dislike the hunter. 10 round mags (and more often than not, 5 round mags) are just way too limiting, especially for new and intermediate players. By the way, suppressed hunter vepr has a MOA of 2,28 (really thought it had less than 1,5 but apparently not), while suppressed vepr AKM has 2,97. There's pretty much no difference in accuracy between the guns.
Huh interesting! I might do something on 366 at some point, thanks for spurring me on haha. Will have to test the accuracy a bit to see how it stacks up in game
