Tatami Cutting: Not Easy, Even With a Katana! (Tameshigiri Reaction) 

@Qimodis it’s a joke, you simpleton

@Qimodis I didn't know this joke

@@jarodmcdonald2041 poor guy doesnt have a funny bone in the body lol

The mats supposedly approximate human limbs.

haha katana goes brrr

Executioner: *gets Executed for fucking up the Execution*

@@undertakernumberone1 Executioner of executioner: *Also gets executed for fucking up the execution of the executioner.* "Sir, maybe we should stop executing the few people who know how to perform executions properly?"

@@swaghettimemeballs4420 Stalin: Wait.... We can't Execute the Executioners?

@@AncestorEmpire1 If we start executing executions on the executioners then there won't be any executioners left to execute the executionings. _OBVIOUSLY, DUH._

@@swaghettimemeballs4420 apparently Stalin forgot this just before the winter war with Finland. Oops

People do not understand the meaning of "Force multiplier." To most, they see it as "Well if I'm stronger and I use it that means I'll have more force," sure in a straight forward no other factors situation that is the case. However, force multiplier does not just mean physical force. It will multiply the lethality of your skill, as well as physical force. When wielded correctly a force multiplier works in a congruence of ways ; Mental force multiplication in the terms of applicable tactic and strategy, Physical force in the terms of physical striking power, and demoralizing force in the terms of the feeling helplessness in the enemy. These are all factors "force multipliers" affect and is why there is no guarantee a man and a woman, unarmored with weapons against one another will result in the physically stronger of the two always winning. An example, my sister practiced fencing and multiform weapon defense for years, and she carried a collapsible baton on her for self defense. She was on her way home from work one night coming to meet me at a coffee shop, and she was attacked by a guy who had seen her cash her check and followed her. He came at her with a stick, I would say roughly around 4 foot long looked like a piece of wooden closet hangar rail. She pulled the baton out and icepick gripped it, and the guy swung the stick at her she said one handed, and she was able to cross disarm the stick from him. She was able to back off enough to control the stick in her dominant hand and was able to prevent him from closing the gap on her because he simply did not know what to do and thought his pure physical strength, which was undeniably much higher than hers, would win. All it did was nearly gouge his eye out, shredded his face open, broke his nose, knocked a few teeth out, cracked his skull open and got him arrested. All she did was use the stick like a rapier, and he was so unaware he didn't notice every time he grabbed the stick with two hands to try and rip it out of her hands the baton was full force into his temple 2 or 3 strikes before he could pull away. It happened so fast that by the time I was able to get out of the shop and tell the barista to call the police, and cross the street he was down on the ground with some serious injuries, and he was clearly WAY stronger than my sister. On paper he should have beat her at the first exchange right? He was a 212 pound 6'3 behemoth, definitely a gym rat. My sister is a 5'8 very active woman who works in the construction field, she is a tie rail placer, basically when they redo rail roads she loads the giant timbers they use to support the rails. So she's not weak, but she doesn't work out beyond that so maybe slightly above average. so went went wrong for the stronger attacker, why didn't that first hit which he swung really hard with, instantly take my weaker sister out? Well, it's simple really. He didn't understand that force multipliers aren't static increases to power, and because of it he was instantly over taken and beaten down, rather swiftly. For anyone saying "I would have done this [...] I would have done that" it is easy to say after the fact, but this happened really fast. This happened in less than 1 minute, because I turned my audio recorder on before I even made it out the door to run across the street, and I didn't turn it off until about 15 seconds after he was down and not getting back up, and it was at [Okay so I checked the audio recording, it lasted 53 seconds] -like 43 seconds-. Realistically I only seen about 1/8th of it as I was running around the tables, yelling to the barista and trying to cross the street, my sister filled me in, but with his condition and her condition being what they were [he was bloody and had shredded skin, busted teeth and a ripped shirt, she had a really stretched collar on her work shirt rendering it rubbish and a red hand mark on her arm but otherwise no damage] I was inclined to believe her take of events as what she said happened lined up with what bits I did see. From the start it didn't really matter what that man did, because my sisters skill was high enough that the force multiplier effect of her skill drastically over shadowed the effect of the same for his strength. There is a saying, "Strength increases lethality in multiples. Skill increases lethality in magnitudes."

@@BigPanda096 long text is loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong Jokes aside, for force multiplier, if the base number (i.e. you) is zero, then no matter how many multiplier it have the result is zero. Other seem to forget that zero is not the lowest limit even, it could even be minus (eg. Those people so "skillful" in their head only, they manage to hurt themselves with their weapon, or those people who may be physically strong but mentally lack fortitude they hurt themselves / team in blue on blue fashion )

@@dimasakbar7668 Yes, that is why I worded what I said the way I did. Ypu have to have some physical power, that is undeniable. But with force multipliers it's a bit more than the static, and hard numbers only do justice in terms of demonstrating paper value, but not much else for real world value. Translation; It doesn't really matter how well and formed to skill you can maneuver your weapon if you only have the physical power to hold it up and move it and not much else. You still need to be physically strong which is why I advocate for everyone to take care of their bodies. If you're physically capable and have a decent amount of power, enhancing your skill will yield far more returns on time investment than just strength training at that point. Further to your point yes, my lord yes there are SO many negative force multipliers and people seemingly REFUSE to acknowledge they exist. You explained one already, over confidence, bravado or otherwise pure arrogance. These are the people who pull their guns out to use in defense and end up getting disarmed or hurting themselves. Largely because they don't realize how easy it is to imagine acting a certain way in duress, and how difficult it is to do any of that aforementioned planning and execution when in the actual situation. As you said, these people end up making the force multiplier a negative net value, i.e someone else gained control of it or your use of it was so detrimental to the situation it would have been better off without it. There is also false security as well. Thinning that just by having it, and the other not, that no matter what you will come out on top. That's not always the case. I could drone for days but you appear to already have an understanding of what points I was making so I'll not bother you with that haha

@@BigPanda096 i agree. Especially people with false security, they may walk into troubles they actually can avoid or unknowingly escalate a situation to flashpoint. The teacher and the student in this video may do exactly just that.

@@BigPanda096 yoi boiger thoinkfz kill me to Uhm but anyways thanks for giving me detail and shit

i smiled so bright after the perfect triple cut fencer missed to sheath his sword. Within a splitsecond his whole body exhales the "proud samurai"-posture and changes to "spare-time with me buddys" xD sooo relatable

@@rumpelpumpel7687 jajajajaja he looked epic until he failed such a minor thing in comparrison with the cuts he just acomplished

@@rumpelpumpel7687 The laughing in the background makes it even better

Still lamenting over being a hermit?

its called body language ! understanding it ! .....

Musashi says in the Five Rings (Elements( that every strike must be dealt with Full intent to kill. Thinking too much leads to second thoughts and mistakes Just Fucking Do it

*Kensei, but nice dog whistle.

Where is that SS coming from O.o

@@Athalwolf13 Sword Saint Isshin. It's from Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice.

@@Alex_Fahey Ah, did play and fight against him, but the SS caught me off guard.

5,000$ worth of practice in an afternoon and who knows how many hours practiced swinging it

@@drawapretzel6003 tatami is very cheap in japan compared to the rest of the world as many people still prefer and use it in homes and the matts used in these practice sections are probably made with mats that were not of usable grade for floors or with offcuts. (not to mention that both kendo and iadao are popular martial arts in japan in creating both demand and supply dropping price.

@@charlielilley8033 being a less durable material, it would also mean it would need to be replace far more than our usual flooring type. i wouldnt doubt if their life span was only a couple of years at most.

@@marcosdheleno typically tatami mats are much thicker that the rolls and actually last around 8 years due to wearing shoes indoors being very rare in japan (even in schools you switch to slippers when you enter the building) however they stain easily and are often replaced or flipped due to staining before wear becomes an issue

they can get old tatami surfaces for free in japan

In your opinion would you say the cutting sword you used was wider than a "standard" katana or was traditional? Also gosh I'd love to study iaijutsu. Thanks for sharing this with us. Were you on just one wetted mat? It's hard, people don't realize. Best wishes, thanks again

@@wren7195 the one we used was traditional. It was not a true shinken since those cost thousands of dollars but it was in that style. We used rolled and soaked tatami. Mine was single rolled but the senpai cut through a double rolled mat. He even cut off the tip of the wooden rod that was being used to hold the mats in place. Afterward he gave me the top of the cut mat to keep. The style I studied was muso jikiden eishin ryu if you ever want to check it out. I just wish I could have seen our soke try his hand at it. He learned from the great grandson of a former grandmaster. The sound his swipes made in class when he swung it while doing kata was impressive. Best wishes to you too and you are welcome . A great book to look at that shows philosophy, kata, and history is Flashing Steel by Masayuki Shimabukuro and Leonard Pellman

@@timalice-2833 LOL I actually own that book, or did, my friend "borrowed" it. Why does the book call the forms waza when everyone else seems to use kata? Thanks for sharing so much with us, I really appreciate it. You're very kind, and your respect and passion for your ryu and teachers really shines through. I wish you all the best, it's been a pleasure speaking with you *bows*

@@wren7195 thank you so very much for your kind words. It has been a long time since I studied, health and life got in the way, but the dojo, my two senpai, and the soke truly made an impact on my life even to this day. Studying there was not just about going through forms and swinging a sword around. They stressed respect to each other and the essence of the tenets of bushido. But to answe your question, they honestly never told us the true difference. My thought is that waza means more technique rather than forms. Kind of the difference between the suffix of -do which is “the way”” so it is meditative vs -jutsu which is “the art” so it is meant more based in combat. They stressed that the techniques we practiced were not a game, they were dangerous and very real. We would be corrected if we left ourselves undefended. We were to imagine what those cuts did. They showed us where they were supposed to land. Thank you for your questions. I enjoyed sharing what I learned. *bow

@@wren7195 My experience is in japanese jujutsu, but I guess it's quite similar? waza (技) and kata (方) are pretty similar. Usually waza is a specific technique, whereas a series of techniques is called a kata. Don't confuse homonyms though, as in Japanese jujutsu kata waza (肩技) means shoulder series (i.e. shoulder throws), and ne waza kata (寝技方, ground technique series).

Yes thank you! I was wanting to ask about that, because they do that now with HEMA swords. Am I wrong in thinking that they're a bit like "training wheels" for a bike (Not in the sense that "you don't knwo what you're doing" but more of "it'll help you learn edge geometry more easily and quickly, and improve your true sword use) in that it helps people learn edge geometry more easily by forcing you to use it in order to cut at all? Just guessing and curious. Best wishes Sam, glad to meet you! Stay safe

@@wren7195 You're welcome. I'm not sure if the intention is to graduate to a more traditional sword geometry after but that would make sense. I've never bought one because I don't really like the look and I don't have much issue cutting with normal blade geometry.

@@SamChaneyProductions Modern Rogue has a vid on champion sword cuts, and the current winner using HEMA type longsword uses a wider blade also, and I've seen Skalligrim gush over one of his new wider cutting blades. They certainly seem easier to keep in line especially through thicker/wider targets and multiple cuts. I learned on a normal blade also, I do ok for a girl but I always end up twisting when doing a rising cut from left tail guard :( I've NEVER done that one successfully. Be safe Sam, thanks again :D

Probably they are to katana like what the Principe is to longsword. Amazing in light cutting but would break in real combat use.

wish id read ferther before posting

thats so true . going to a katana shop in japan makes you realise that all the katanas available to us are pretty uniform . even in the high price ranges . we dont have access to real katanas since japan only has around 350 certified katana makers and it isnt a real katana unless it is made by those artisans

I agree, however I suppose that the one with the wider blade was a modified naginata blade. For it’s significantly shorter yet wider than a common katana or tachi.

@@myname-mz3lo * laughs in Toledo steel * ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yYygxJDLPIQ.html

@@bencekovacs2960 no, naginata blades usually have a different shape. That's apparently a modern sword specifically for tameshigiri

More like the boss who's chill and unlike the stereotypes (cough) Parthurnax (cough)

@@Lo-tf6qt lol

“Ah hello there adventurer, I don’t know how you survived this death trap of a castle but I’m glad you did”

We have in our arms, but when use you all body, the shoulders apply a natural angle and the elbow, that's why when you see horizontal cuts in movies is to attack small and soft targets, like the eyes or the neck

Very awkward because that's the first thing they taught me when i first got into HEMA in order to teach me how to use my hip. I was told to cut the air horizontal while your arms and sword straight out and just swing left and right with just hip rotation. Most of the people now in the club still suck at horizontal cut, lol

interesting, I didn't know that

It's also physics involved, in a horizontal cut a lot of the energy is absorbed by the sideways flexing of the mat and the air around it. In more vertical cuts there's less sideways flex in the mat, as well as the base providing both upwards and downwards resistance, which makes vertical cuts inherently more effective (against tatami mats at least). Although the mats are woven I assume the direction of the fibers relative to the blade could be a factor to some degree as well.

Used tatami mats are a bit tougher than new. Your also cutting against the grain.

He clearly felt tempted lol

Hahahah . It....it's approaching kriegs messer width...I...what is this...?

@@firstnamelastname180 What form of power is this?

@@CesarTheWelfareCaptain thicc katana..."this isn't even my final form!"

Probably going to say this in another comment but pointing out that HEMA cutting matches use wider blades as well, so I can see how Japan would adopt that geometry for tatami cutting. Although the wider blade helps you make your cuts more easily, it hampers those same cuts if you twist at all. If anything, you could say that it's sort of "training wheels" that forces you to cut as straight and aligned as possible so you can take that muscle memory to a more narrow blade.

love the comment!

Come to me my child.

Too bad that wasnt true for his neck..

@@damiensmyth3404 He should have had a sword in his hand instead of a torch.

@@serpnta1267 we both know arrogance was his downfall.. he didnt think he needed a weapon.

Praise! Respect! SWORDS!!!

@@wren7195 swords *work*.

@@aloysiuskurnia7643 Horribly well, terribly well. I forget who quoted it, "swords were made for young men to kill other young men, and they perform that remarkably well"

Was für ne Scheisse ist Sword equality

While you were looking for katana nerds i was studying the blade. 😎

Well HEMA guys have gone to the extreme end of things. Its extremely silly, ingnorant and immature. In short some or many HEMA guys act like bullies with poor confidence. They need to push others down so the can stand taller.

i like both kinds of sword. but i really only want/need 1 katana. might pick up maybe like 1 chinese sword too, but the european swords just have so many that i like, i guess it's a bit more diverse. but that's the problem with comparing one or two countries against a dozen or more.

The problem is, that the horizontal cut (because of the 90* angle) transfers the most momentum to the target. The tatami mats are kinda "soft" targets, so if the speed of the cut isn't high enough, the mat will start bending over before the sword is through. This will effectively result in a curved cut (downwards slope), even when the edge alignment is perfectly horizontal. The blade goes straight, but the target moves and messes up the alignment.

@Ryan Newman. Yes, depending on how the mat was made, direction of "grain" is another possible problem. Especially in those mats that have long, stiff pieces in one direction (less so in softer mats that are essentially a criss-cross mesh).

Using the proper core muscles in cuts does take a lot of practice, and it definitely helps if one does their crunches regularly. :P

Nah, i cut horizontal the same way i cut diagonal, the same way a boxer would throw a right cross. The key point here is that most people in the clip didn't step when they cut, hence only the torso spin

They could simply set up target mats at differing leans not just straight up. But they never do, just robot practice in this class of swordsmanship.

You're not even making a joke but I had to laugh because it's hilarious and terrifying, what you just said. Heck, we've got all these monkeys flying around in ton vehicles with nothing but paint separating us from life and death. Respect to you, I know an engineer and I have all respect for you

Our bodies are utterly ridiculous on this point. "Muscle memory" is us almost literally rewiring parts of our nervous system to create connections that allow for repeated actions to become consistent. For some martial arts, it gets to the point that almost everything is reactionary or non-conscious. How you throw a punch, pivot for a kick, align a strike, all of it is automatic, a result of practice and repetition. This extends to many other things in everyday life; typing, driving, walking, and other habits all slowly get wired into us as we do them more and more. The most interesting part is, it's a natural phenomenon. While we can overwrite bad habits by repeatedly doing things properly, our bodies are always creating these new connections and making it easier to repeat tasks. I'm curious if we'll reach a point technologically where we can artificially create these neural pathways and basically go full Matrix of downloading various skills directly into our bodies. More importantly, I wonder if we will be able to apply these techniques to other creatures, such are rodents or reptiles, that way we could finally have the Real Ninja Turtles.

Every martial artist have this kind of problem. We have all have low and high points in life where our skills are either terrible or very well performed

I also have this problem, but have no sword- trying to cut leeks like tatami mats with a cheap kitchen knife is surprisingly tricky though!

@@jaketheasianguy3307 so very true, even after practicing Judo for 39 years, and JiuJitsu for 10..some days the simplest basic throw will just go wrong, terribly wrong and everything inbetween.. then you just step away, do some pushups, cool down and call it a day. XD

This is why it's very important to proceed like you succeeded even if you fail. You should never stop the moment you fucked up. This is basically training for failure, engraving that hesitation in your muscle memory. In my experience, it applies to most things, and dropping that habit helped me in both martial arts and music.

These days if you actually NEED a sword, you're gonna be in a world of hurt regardless and if you do survive, you'll need a good lawyer.

if you need a sword, use a gun instead. the only purpose i can see swords filling beyond recreation today is a machete or kukri for clearing brush

@@jameskazd9951, facts. I train swordsmanship for fun, keep a pistol for if something real is about to go down.

Not Kotetsu. The Hataya "Kotetsu" are pretty beefy and wide, but this is a product name. Hataya sensei called them "Kotetsu" after Nagasone Okisato Kotetsu, an exceptionally good Shinto period smith. He produced blades rated as Saijo O-wazamono (highest wazamono rank of four), or as having supreme cutting ability. He was a smith famous for his robust cutting blades. Calling all wide blades Kotetsu would be like calling all mid engine cars Lamborghini. These are specialty katana with wide mihaba for tameshigiri, but do not have a classification beyond that.

@@SaltedFishing shinto period? I think you mean Edo Period. Shinto is a religion native to Japan.

@@Necrodermis The swordsmithing periods are different from the ruling era. Jokoto, koto, shinto, shinshinto, gendaito. The Edo period encompasses most of the shinto period and all of shinshinto.

@@SaltedFishing dang I'd love to learn Japanese history from you if you were a teacher lmao

As others have stated, Cheness made a very affordable "SGC" (specialized goza cutter) line. And dont confuse affordable with garbage. I dont know what it was about their 9260 steel and their heat treat but I owned (at one time) basically every model Cheness made except the lower end 1045/60steel swords and the bujinkan-ryu (probably butchered that ha) model as it was made for a specific school/dojo it was sort of like a ko-kat in a longer than "necessary" saya. Yes their handles could have been waisted or bellied better but the blade was what you paid for, and the fittings were perfectly useable and serviceable. A custom tsuka would have made them pretty perfect. But for under 400 USD, and quality steel and iron furniture, and that amazing 9260 they had, they are hard to beat if that's what you are looking for. 🤙🤙

And this is why females in sports is still interesting. Also I think 5:18 should count as successful, albeit... Half way. 🤪

As a girl in HEMA, yeah I really appreciate seeing ladies in Japanese sword because it's more prominent than here in the States, although it's usually through families. There are a lot of women into HEMA here but it's not as widely accepted, and then there's the confusing aspect of "can women use the same sword techniques as men?" thingie. So yeah, she was blasting through that with pure technique and alignment, so that's really cool, and very cool that you noticed it too hardfugoo! Be safe everybody, and always be well

@@wren7195 “can women use the same sword techniques as men?”. I’m torn between hoping women can and hoping they can’t. If they can then rah, rah girl power. But if they can’t, it will force female athletes to be creative in order to compete and is an opportunity for us to learn from and expand our understanding of not only female athletics, but athleticism as a whole. To be honest I’m forcing myself to be torn for the sake of being a decent person. I really hope it’s the latter, please forgive me. Rest assured I hate myself enough for the both of us.

@@tbonbrad LOL Don't hate yourself :P I hope you were just being facetious when you say that. As for the topic, all I meant was that a lot of the more chauvinistic HEMA types argue that women simply can't use swords the same way a man does, and for the most part that's just not true. It does land somewhere between what you said latter (about adjusting for what we might not be able to power through) and more simply "yeah rah rah girl power" girls can do the same things. One of the great things about HEMA is very few swords are actually so large or heavy as to require a ton of strength and stamina to wield. My favourite longsword is just barely over three pounds and is balanced so well that it feels lighter than some other two pound swords. Mostly the techniques in longsword are alll about leverage and control. There's a level of athleticism required, something my body is giving out in due to illness, but it's more control than raw power. Sorry, I'm babbling I just woke up lol Be safe brad, be good to yourself :) It's ggreat to meet you :D

One on one and solo sports are where female athletes really shine because teamwork is equally impressive and men have the advantage of male physicality. But when it’s one on one or solo, it doesn’t matter, people get excited. Tennis, ice skating, track, weightlifting, MMA, people don’t see genders, they see different games with the same rules.

Pffft amateurs, learn Ikeda Asaemon's(Gintama) Kimoarai-technique(so absurd that it's actually hilarious) to become truly enlightened XD.

Gun boys: I put 3000 rounds through my rifle for fun.

Puts into perspective how restrictive having both of these hobbies can be.

@@propyro85 i primarily do archery. i make my own arrows, they cost about $7 each. breaking one/losing one in the marsh is painful.

@@gregajohnson1985 I've lost and broken a number of carbon arrows, thankfully with nothing more pricey than a field point. But it still sucks to loose an arrow, probably more so when you made them yourself.

@@propyro85 it sucks even more when an arrow you made breaks, because then not only do you lose an arrow, you question your craftmanship.

Yeah, you can tell that it's a well established tradition in Japan.

'faster than my pommel'!!!!! amazing!!! :)

End them rightly haha

Done !

hey you know him too

It's really good 😊

I've been suscribed to them/him for years now

@@Espectador666 Found him when I first got into battojutsu ... ... just have to patiently wait until I can go back to my dojo ...

This is due to school uniform, I guess.

I think they're using custom made blades for this. Cheness makes them as well for a more affordable price these days under the name of Specialized Goza Cutters.

Kotetsu is the right word!

But as far as I could find Hataya Kotetsu, or the SGC katanas are not that wider than regular katanas. Not like thos sabers they use in the video. It was funny to search and find the detail because I found the explication of why they're better at cutting very related to the video Skal made about the sharpness of the blades.

Not Kotetsu. The Hataya "Kotetsu" are pretty beefy and wide, but this is a product name. Hataya sensei called them "Kotetsu" after Nagasone Okisato Kotetsu, an exceptionally good Shinto period smith. He produced blades rated as Saijo O-wazamono (highest wazamono rank of four), or as having supreme cutting ability. He was a smith famous for his robust cutting blades. Calling all wide blades Kotetsu would be like calling all mid engine cars Lamborghini. These are specialty katana with wide mihaba for tameshigiri, but do not have a classification beyond that.

That's really cool. I think Skall knows that because he's done that on a couple of videos like the Forged in Fire video. But I didn't and its good to know, so thanks!

I wonder what they do with the cut ones. Could get expensive buying mats constantly.

@@VMC_Boy I don't think you can glue it back together and these mats seems unable to be recycled.

@@underpaidmook Thanks for replying. Had a feeling that was the case. I feel for whoever makes them only to see them cut apart in one tenth of a second.

The village might have a under population problem

Yup. That was insanely impressive.

The true intellectual knows that 3.5 has stats for every sword, but a d6 is a d6 no matter how much flavor.

Different swords for Different purposes.

I tend to fall onto C to a point of saying, when a katana was involved, stuff like "imagine if they actually had a weapon". But after all jokes and games, if a weapon was used for so long, it's not because it was trash.

"The only people" you just descrbied 95% of humanity is "the only people" good job, man.

During the intro I laughed. Wasn't Skall technincally an "A" close to a decade ago? How times change haha

Lol methatron

They all have different use cases they excel at and different formative factors that led to their creation, the ultimate sword is not made of steel, but made of the mind.

@@drawapretzel6003 Very true;o

miss the key by a bit and you'll typo into *good nutter*

I think they're called kotesu katana

I believe they're sold under the name of Specialized Goza Cutter (SGC) katana's. I don't know if there is an official Japanese name for this type of blade though.

@@Malakith While wider than a normal katana still not as wide as these he's shown us, but still nice looking sword might have to get one in the near future

well I guess not, sold out -_-

@@franknbeanz147 I think theirs are custom made but that's really expensive for swords, these were just the more commercial ones I know. Hopefully they'll make them soon again!

Or you could just appreciate the skill, but I guess that's asking a lot.

yeah thedeplorabologist!!! how dare you find women aesthetically appealing, or dare i say it, sexually appealing!!! for shame

@@ElliWoelfin that was already implied in "knows how to swing a sword"

I dunno a grandma with a rolling pin is also a formidable opponent.

Fucking camper