They See Him Flailin' They Hatin'... War Flail vs. Katana Fight Reaction

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This is an interesting (and entertaining) sparring match that caught my eye, between a big dude with a pole flail and a Kendo practitioner with a shinai. I don't know anything about the fighters, as there is currently no info in the description, but they look competent to me.
I was expecting the fighter with the sword to pretty much get steamrolled by the polearm with its superior reach and power, but he did surprisingly well. Definitely an awesome match, and a good opportunity to point out some pros and cons of the flail in practical terms.
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@weaponism 2 года назад

Thanks for the review!!👍👍 we enjoyed the video🙏 (katana guy)😎

@RapierDuello 2 года назад

awesome video always! thanks for uploading it!

@NotoriousDaddle Год назад

You have a crazy eye for defense. Much respect.

@parengthonycastillo4272 Год назад

You people are all so very skilled. Especially with the fencing guy! His skills with fencing is so fast!

@sageofsixpathskakashi3742 Год назад

Please do a collaboration. He said he's ok with it, you are ok with it just please collab

@RockingRavine 2 года назад

You can tell that Skall enjoyed making this video. As I did watching it! Hopefully there's more of those "actually cool fights" to be made a video of in the future.

@googleisacruelmistress1910 2 года назад

The channel he reacted to is actually full of them, or at least their other channel Hogucouple, it is in Korean, but that doesn't really prevent you from enjoying the fights or turning on captions

@reffugeeheretic507 2 года назад

Monk, you're right Skall was having a great time. I think I've seen most of the sparring videos on the channel he reviewed. I think I enjoyed Skall's play by play reaction, just as much or more, than when I watch the videos for myself the first time.

@reffugeeheretic507 2 года назад

I've really missed Skall's tournament and other sparring related reactions, and now that he's discovered a whole treasure trove of them. I hope he includes reactions to these sorts of videos on a regular basis. But what ever Skall does I wish him and his wife all the best in the new year.

@DarthSears 2 года назад

Truly, Shadiversity's greatest fear. A STICK, with a flail bit on the end. A weapon to surpass the Stick.

@adambielen8996 2 года назад

A Stick with a bit of extra stick chained on... truly the secret to unlimited power.

@han5vk 2 года назад

Hate that rambly edgy idiot.

@DarthSears 2 года назад

@@han5vk Rambly, I'll give you. But Edgy...? Are you sure about that?

@han5vk 2 года назад

@@DarthSears Possibly not the best choice of words on my part. Let's go with shouty and otherwise attempting to capture the teenage market.

@evanpalmer7297 2 года назад

He’s just very enthusiastic, maybe too much for some people’s viewing preference.

@ebonslayer3321 2 года назад

4:20 This made me think about just how dangerous a muscular 7ft dude would be with a polearm. He'd have a massive reach advantage in basically every situation and if you got close he'd clobber nearly everyone just due to superior size.

@user-vg6sg7kh1q 2 года назад

The battle of Stamford Bridge had a good example of it where one axe-wielding guy stop the other army for a long time and killed around 40 englishmen until they attacked him from under the bridge between the plank

@luskarian4055 2 года назад

Isn't that where "London Bridge is falling down" comes from too

@Skallagrim 2 года назад

Yes, that's pretty much the worst case scenario unless you're able to outmaneuver him and use the environment to your advantage.

@carltomacruz9138 2 года назад

Goes to prove that reach is king in battle.

@ebonslayer3321 2 года назад

@@Skallagrim So basically an irl boss fight.

@DeanCalaway 2 года назад

Probably the most useful against shields, think about the mechanic of it, the pole would hit the edge of the shield and the end would just bend around to hit the holder behind.

@asddasdasdasdadsa 2 года назад

Yeah with smaller shields you more or less always hit the arm of the opponent and that either hurts really hard ore stright out brakes it.

@user-xf3bp7kr7w 2 года назад

Tod's Workshop (feat Scholagladiatoria) have a good video about that. Really good.

@untyrhallsprung569 2 года назад

The time for dual shield wielding has come!

@raziyatheseeker 2 года назад

Heck, I wouldn't wanna catch that thing with a shield anyway. Strapped to the arm? Great way to break your arm. Center-grip? Probably knock the shield aside or bust it up too, if it's thinner.

@leman7277 2 года назад

I've fought many sparring matches against a war flail just like that, having a sword and shield set up myself, it's a nightmare. Honestly I'd rather have a bastard or anything two handed then a shield and sword against that thing. Mind you in our set up the war flail guy had a small strap shield on his left hand as well. The flail always comes over the shield as soon as you try to move in close, and if you keep enough distance to parry the flail, any parry just resets him for the next shot... Horrible, I think I got in like 1-2 hits in throught the entire match, while my buddy with the flail got in like 40 hits -_- (he's good at it too)

@Tyrf1ng 2 года назад

In Korea, there is a farm equipment called "Dorikkae", which has exactly same mechanism flail. Since most of men in Choseon worked as farmer and used to using Dorikkae, flail was used by many men during Imjin War.

@spwicks1980 2 года назад

Thats pretty much where European polearms came from as well - the farmer's field. Halberds tended to be bill hooks - farming implements for harvesting beets and other large root vegetables on a large pole. Makes sense as it was usually the poor farmers pressed into battle.

@Tyrf1ng 2 года назад

@@spwicks1980 Looks like many weapons were made similar with farming tools! Thanks for information:)

@yeetman4953 Год назад

@@spwicks1980 bill hooks were meant to cut branches

@spwicks1980 Год назад

@@yeetman4953 in the UK, many bill hooks have a curved spike on the back of the blade. This is specifically for handling, hard, tough root vegetables like sugar beet, swedes etc..

@yeetman4953 Год назад

@@spwicks1980 oh ok

@tinheart2853 2 года назад

Wow let's not ignore how actually skillful the swordsman (or woman) is. Despite being at huge disadvantage dude actually gets few blows on a flail guy

@acvarthered 2 года назад

This is so true. I know I can repeatedly beat people who I know are better then me when I use my footman's flail.

@Skallagrim 2 года назад

Yep, that's why I was so impressed by the hits he landed. This is hard mode.

@coleallen2989 2 года назад

Yes and obviously they’re not used to fighting against weapons such as this. Sometimes I think we overestimate weapons like this because of inexperienced/disadvantaged sword fighter. Although the sword will always have a certain disadvantage in the matchup, I chalk up a lot of the flail users edge to the inexperience of the sword user fighting this weapon.I’d be interested in seeing a part 2 of this.

@Blaisem 2 года назад

I think the sword person was a girl going by the video thumbnail and size difference.

@atom8248 2 года назад

@@Skallagrim ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xeoyz-CZk9o.html their weapon combinations get a bit wacky too

@themadscientest 2 года назад

Weaponism is such a great channel, it's just a bunch of Korean sword nerds having fun and doing experimental archeological research.

@shinx-hr6uq 2 года назад

Huge fan

@Moredakkamus 2 года назад

Their 1 spear vs 3 sword video is crazy

@3en6ql2h5j 2 года назад

also u can see original jkd vs kendo. nunchaku vs kendo, boxer vs kendo, ect.

@SirConto 2 года назад

I was really impressed by their "high level kendo vs. fencing" video. They seriously got the next captain of the Korean national kendo team to participate there. I mean, they're really not exaggerating when calling that "high level kendo". That's really one of the best kendo professionals there are. Almost certainly at least in the world's top ten.

@user-ko5nh7lh6q 2 года назад

There has never been a legitimate Korean sword technique on that channel, so it seems a little strange to describe them as Korean sword geeks ...

@RiylanCorma 2 года назад

8:49 The flail guy pulls a strike here; his off hand is a couple hands from the end of the pole, then on the actual strike he lets that hand slip down to the very end. Gets him that little extra reach to make sure he can connect. Always a good move.

@FoxHound-ut1hu 2 года назад

One of the big advantages for the flail in my mind is how God damn distracting it is. Your eye automatically responds to movement leaving you vulnerable to a thrust or a quick change in the direction of the strike. It's like trying to follow three different attack vectors at once.

@beerthug 2 года назад

Oh for sure, reminds me of those asian spears with the coloured feathers near the end that kill ones depth perception/

@theholyduck5520 2 года назад

In addition, the flail is longer in motion than it is at rest. That has got to be confusing as hell when you're trying to judge your spacing.

@howardprescott4564 Год назад

I got fairly good a 3 section staff. It gives you 3 ranges of attack. Hurt my elbow after awhile. I never thought to use a long pole with a flail on the end. Interesting

@GordaoSemFuturo Год назад

Thats the reason why you open distance between you and the flail holder until he feels agitated because he is wasting his energy and when he tries to hit you, you get in like a mad man.

@aranhacraft Год назад

"three different attack vectors at once." sounds like For honor

@BlueyFromMelbShuffle 2 года назад

5:46 the ”kendo thing’s” martial purpose is exactly as Skal goes on to explain it. It’s too bad it’s not really explained by many kendo teachers, and it ends up being used inefficiently by beginners. Great video.

@yuritrasimaco5201 2 года назад

Yeah, I just assume it like just a dumb/impractical thing of the sport but seeing in this way that Skall put it it's good move in a combat

@Ranstone 2 года назад

I always thought it looked so stupid. Knowing it has a purpose alleviates that.

@BlueyFromMelbShuffle 2 года назад

@@Ranstone I understand. Most of the (I would even argue all) things in kendo have a martial purpose at the core, but they are lost to many practitioners and even teachers. Unfortunately, I think it makes kendo less appealing to people and harder to learn. Of course the modern competition meta is also very much affected by its role as a combat sport, but I don’t mind that too bad. It’s the same in other combat sports I train as well.

@egehannalbant5572 2 года назад

@@Ranstone Exactly, as a Kendo practitioner in short, we're supposed to reach in after a cut because the two-handed sword being a big object, if you are in very close distance (called tsuba-zeriai) there isn't much your opponent can do. He just doesn't have the place to move. Traditionally, you would then grapple your opponent. Which isn't done outside of Japan Police tournaments for safety purposes.

@njalsand133 2 года назад

Kendo has rules, a enemy combatant in a war, non what so ever, expect having stuff thrown in your face.

@scholagladiatoria 2 года назад

Really cool footage and analysis!

@SchwererGustavThe800mm 2 года назад

I am an avid lover of flails one handed and two handed. Many argue against their effectiveness or popularity, on paper it seems like a bad weapon but in the wild its an incredibly lethal weapon.

@michaelsandy2869 2 года назад

Flail guy has some footwork issues, where he is basically just balanced on one foot. And yet, even with inferior footwork, it was still difficult for the sword guy.

@acvarthered 2 года назад

He also never fought from middle guard which is really good with a footman's flail. With just minor movements of the weapon you can cause very powerful and blinding quick attacks from all sorts of angels. Everybody thinks the footman's flail is a slow weapon. It is not!

@bendover9813 2 года назад

When it comes to the flail, it kinda requires a single point of balance to handle to movement of the flail itself w/ your other leg. That’s one of the only known drawbacks to using one really, it’s a very unique weapon that you need a completely different skill set to solid weaponry.

@coleallen2989 2 года назад

Sword guy also didn’t close distance effectively while instead waiting to receive attacks he wouldn’t be able to parry. When fighting a weapon like this, ESPECIALLY since there’s no spear point… pressure and advance before they attack.

@dontneedtoknow5836 2 года назад

@@acvarthered I think you understand better than most. Just a jiggle at one end can be a fast rotation at the other.

@wren7195 2 года назад

@@acvarthered Wouldn't those times he was "spinning up" the flail count as a middle guard stance? I mean he wasn't warding truly during that so is that what disqualifies it as middle guard? I've never fought with footman's flail, only longsword and sword and buckler, and I'm a middle aged woman now lol so can't really test things out anymore. You sound like you've studied it, so what do you think? Of the weapon and my question, if you please. Any good HEMA resources on pole flails? Best wishes to you :)

@hdWWtchR 2 года назад

Now this is an actual duel unlike most of the time we just saw people charging in while getting hit without any cautious move whatsoever.

@stampsu 2 года назад

Wanted to say, not because it's related to the video or anything but just generally: your channel has really inspired me to try out HEMA. I've contacted my local school a couple times already and now I'm just waiting for practise sessions to start again. I'm really exited to get started and it's all thanks to your content Skall

@tamlandipper29 2 года назад

Hope you enjoy it and it becomes regular.

@stampsu 2 года назад

@@tamlandipper29 I hope so too. I'm a history nerd already and study it as a minor in uni, so HEMA would be really interesting

@robertthebruce7176 2 года назад

How Hard was it to find a school? I'm considering trying it myself.

@stampsu 2 года назад

@@robertthebruce7176 It was pretty easy. Just Googled HEMA and my home town. I live in Finland and we seem to about one school per a bigger city

@scintillam_dei 2 года назад

HEMA will conquer the WORLD! HEMAGLOBIN'!

@imperialguard9458 2 года назад

You should see their sparring match with claws vs Longsword These guys are really creative in combat.

@neverseemstoAsh 2 года назад

have you seen dual saber vs polearm? I love that they do those super weird matchups

@MaaZeus 2 года назад

That was a really sweet sparring video. Both fighters did good in my uninformed eyes and despite the huge disadvantage the sword wielding guy managed to consistently win also. If this were a real fight it could have gone either way, not an automatic win for the flail guy just because he had a better reach. 👍

@TentaclePentacle 2 года назад

that's because the frail guy isn't really skilled with the frail, the sword guy is skilled with the sword. Even in this case, the frail guy scores more hits than the sword guy.

@reptiloidmitglied2930 2 года назад

To me it looked like the sword fighter needed some time to adapt to the flail. In a real fight this early phase would've been crucial for the rest of the fight.

@rickjames7391 2 года назад

You don't get do-overs on the battlefield, and having to wade into a longer weapon's reach just to get into measure is very dangerous. 9/10 times the flail user is going to get the first swing, and we saw how blocking worked out for the sword wielder. In a fight, the flail guy would not just stop hitting him, and he'd soon be dead.

@raics101 2 года назад

Yeah, the sword guy got a few points with a few pretty risky moves that he might be more reluctant to do if life was at stake.

@coleallen2989 2 года назад

@@TentaclePentacle skill with a sword doesn’t translate to fighting weapons you’ve never fought before. The sword fighter would be at a disadvantage but the flail gets the even more of an edge here because of the inexperienced sword fighter.

@marcturmel924 2 года назад

Damn, that is a quite interesting fight, seems easier to handle a pole-flail than a 1 handed chain flail. Very rare to see a flail in a fight...

@psychedashell 2 года назад

When you can’t quite hit yourself with it your confidence goes up.

@spyrofrost9158 2 года назад

@@psychedashell in my novice experience its actually quite difficult to hit yourself with a 1 handed flail in the chain is proper length

@psychedashell 2 года назад

@@spyrofrost9158 Then you start asking the question of is that a really long flail or a really short whip.

@njalsand133 2 года назад

It is the recipe for blunt trauma and concussions

@leadpaintchips9461 2 года назад

@@njalsand133 Ya, most blunt weapons aren't very good for practice/sport fights, since we can't really approximate safely the killing power like we can with bladed weapons.

@DraculaCronqvist 2 года назад

A very skilled demonstration of the weapons and their possible applications by the combatants and a precise analysis by Skall. Noice.

@dirtpoorchris 2 года назад

You can tell that guy knows how to use a great flail, halberd, guardsman' axe just by the thumbnail picture. He hits you with the pokey bottom of the staff first to destabilize you or parry then WHACKS you with the business. Balance is the number 1 important factor in a fight unless you are both on the ground. Once the sword guy learned the distances he would be able to rush in on a blind flail miss. You can actually use this like a pool queue or spear and smack them with the handle in a a pretty surprising move once you perfect it, but it halves your distance of a great swing. Its like a quick surprising ram's butt with the bottom then you kill shot them with the flail.

@tacla 2 года назад

This was a fun review and I appreciate your willingness to share that you changed your opinion. Its very respectable!

@benjaminbrand3714 2 года назад

The cool thing you may have missed about the attack the staff guy made at about 9:12 is that before making his one handed strike, he made a feint with two hands that didn't quite follow through. By doing this, he gave the sword guy a false estimation on his reach, making the sword guy feel like he was safely out of reach when he was not. All in all amazing work by both participants! Also loved hearing Skall's thoughts throughout

@Keeperofrighteousness 2 года назад

Very knowledgeable and accurate depiction of such a “ medieval” style duel as usual skall thanks this was great and the commentary made me notice things that I wouldn’t have otherwise well done sir👍

@Fenrirsulfre 2 года назад

The flail is called "Pyeon-gon" - uneven/lobsided staff-flail in Korea. It was mainly a cavalrymen's weapon against invading Japanese in the 16th century. It was easy for the conscripts to learn quickly and be effective in a short time, as Korea was not very well prepared for war at the time. Speaking of the Japanese, I find this samurai battle reenactment interesting because combatants very quickly go into actual grappling and struggle with side arms(daggers) on the ground. My guess is that in the old days, in real battles, people did not stand upright the whole time executing clean moves. Again, my guess is, it would have been "ugly" - bodies piled over, muddy, entangled, kicking and punching. I'd like to hear your thoughts about this video. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wvf3GtRzsFs.html Thank you!

@lancehobbs8012 2 года назад

And that process was called yawara , later jujutsu. Grappling and finding a place between armour to push the tanto

@peternavin3188 2 года назад

they also would have been on horseback with bows (obv why you cant reenact that)

@beerthug 2 года назад

Movies sure make medieval battles look so clean and 'chivalrous'. You'd never see a knight being held down by more than one opponent and having a rondel dagger driven through his eye slit.

@alter5057 Год назад

As you can see from the link provided by Fenrirsulfre, jujutsu/yawara is a lot different from what we define jujitsu today (brazilian jujitsu). Aside from difference in nationality of two arts, you can see that japan's jujutsu did not have extensive ground grappling like judo or bjj we see today. It was perhaps most likely due to presence of weapons and multiple attackers.

@kahunab7400 Год назад

@@peternavin3188 at that time, about a quarter of the Japanese army used guns. Bows were squarely out of fashion then.

@Paronak 2 года назад

quirky weapons AND fighters that know what they are doing instead of just rushing in? im impressed

@johnathansaegal3156 2 года назад

It's good to hear you changed your view on the war flail. I would not want one as my only weapon, but for the first moments of melee, you have reach and that swingy-thing! ;)

@brianmccarthy5557 2 года назад

In a melee you'd be fighting as a member of a team, unless you undisciplined and going to lose anyway. Presumably flail guy would strike at a distance and flankers would protect him and move in for kills. Every opponent down means you can concentrate more teams on the survivors. Presumably this was all practiced in war training. Kind of like stripping away an enemy's command, infantry and missle defenses from their armored vehicles so you can kill them. After that they become very vunerable.

@moonboy2941 2 года назад

@@brianmccarthy5557 precisely; in "actual" combat, you are going to be leveraging as many weapons in the best combination as you can afford, in order to defeat the enemy. That's why today people use guns and bombs, because it's more efficient when used together, as opposed to other things. That's also why for all this talk about technology, conventional warfare (as we know it today) is probably not going anywhere anytime soon either.

@panchopistola8298 2 года назад

You mean the actual flail ??

@imugi-16 2 года назад

I was hoping you would do commentaries on their videos. I think one of my favorites is katana vs. spear and katana vs. rapier. It was very interesting to see how the weight of the rapier affected the fighter's arm fatigue in a prolonged combat.

@zacstover1477 2 года назад

그죠! 호구 거플 너무 잼있어요!

@imugi-16 2 года назад

@@zacstover1477 무술 대련하는 채널중에 재일 재미있는 것 같아요 ^_^

@chubbysolaireeaterofpussy3192 2 года назад

ikr skall is perfect to look at their stuff, i was suprised he hadnt done it sooner my favorite was how many swordsmen against spear

@RussBastion 2 года назад

He was an awesome kendoka, great skill on his part. Got to give them a bit more credit because they usually only go up against other shinai and not more exotic weapons.

@kazumiryuuken1814 2 года назад

That channel has some great content and i really like your way of analyzing fights, i'll definitely watch more videos like this if you decide to make more.

@adreabrooks11 2 года назад

I enjoy these watch-along videos! Talking about general (or even specific) technique is one thing, but hearing someone with a reasonable amount of experience (needn't necessarily even be a "master") talking through the play-by-play is almost always enlightening. Thanks, as always, for sharing!

@GodlyAtheist 2 года назад

Haven't watched your stuff in a few months. Instantly remember why I love all you do. Incredible content, as always.

@Gaussercito 2 года назад

I've discovered that channel just a few days ago and I'm so happy you found it too, it's really interesting and I hope you gift us with more reactions about their videos. They make super cool mixes for the weapons they use in duels. Thanks for this vid!

@scintillam_dei 2 года назад

Most reaction videos are from black guys who don't want to do anything with effort. Truth can't be racist.

@korecell6106 2 года назад

This channel has some of the coolest and surprisingly realistic simulated weapon fights. The spear ones are the best

@raziyatheseeker 2 года назад

Agreed. The spear guy is scary good, and I will never doubt the wobbly poles for modern Chinese spears again.

@planescaped 2 года назад

@@raziyatheseeker Yeah, the wobbly poles and bendy blades are safety/gimping measures, the real versions were not like that. When the communists came into power Mao was so paranoid of uprisings they even banned martial arts weapons, wushu was a compromise: Non-functional training/sparring weapons that would be very ineffective should they be used against government troops.

@xSmilinBanditx 2 года назад

Is it not weird that we have never seen such cool spear fighting in movies? I have watched almost everything wuxia-kung-fu-samurai related from a certain time period and yes there was spearfighting and some of it was cool, but I was floored when I saw spearguy fight! And it was not even choreographed!

@octopusoup 2 года назад

This was a great video. I like these spar analysis videos and even found a new channel I might watch through this.

@jamesfstokes 2 года назад

This is one of the better videos I've seen recently! Well done 😎

@doubleh3978 2 года назад

Both flail-guy and katana-guy really got the skills, some of those moves are beautiful.

@Skamsy 2 года назад

Live reaction videos are awesome, Skall!

@demorik6794 2 года назад

One of my favorite videos you've done recently.

@robgau2501 2 года назад

I love the half-smile on your face the whole time making this video. It shows you truly love what you do. And, hell, we all love what you do. Lol

@CazadorSlayer 2 года назад

I feel the same, I used to be really skeptical of pole-flails, but the more I see them in action, the cooler they get! I'd definitely love to see more commentary on these videos, great to see some unique sparring combos like this!

@hia5235 2 года назад

Think about it. In full armor youd be very dangerous.

@alephkasai9384 2 года назад

@@hia5235 I think that even unarmed, a guy in full plate would be very dangerous

@Tribune_of_Italia 2 года назад

Why is your nunchuck response video to shad gone? Something to do with Canadian law?

@TallicaMan1986 2 года назад

oh hell. Most likely. It think his channel or something got struck which is why he hasn't posted anything.

@M-yb2ny 2 года назад

Love these kind of videos! Both the fight and the commentary was really entertaining.

@CarnivoreRonin 2 года назад

This was such a great video. I enjoy all of them but this reaction and breakdown was awesome.

@UnreasonableOpinions 2 года назад

Seeing hte use of the flail is fun, but I was more impressed by the swordsman's ability to improvise movements to overcome the reach and coverage advantage of the flail.

@zTokey 2 года назад

i love Skallagrim"s take on unique weapons that others would just dismiss

@Patrick33194 2 года назад

Very cool and very beautiful! Best video of you ive seen in a while, even though they've been getting better again recently

@jmoon2100 2 года назад

I subscribed both channels years ago. Very thrilled to see them in one video

@thunder_2124 2 года назад

What happened to the Shadiversity nunchuck response video?

@Wulf-sq9zw 2 года назад

I love this channel, they do alot of great weapon sparing combinations. And the people using the wepons are usually skilled at them.

@scintillam_dei 2 года назад

I'm a keyboard warrior, and I'm skilled at pissing people off with my mere presence.

@ballsin3d205 2 года назад

I love this guys energy, you can seriously tell that he's utterly passionate about this and he puts his mind into words perfectly

@turtlesaredifferentfromtor6745 2 года назад

I really like this type of content, i would love to see more of it. Thanks for the video!

@semibreve 2 года назад

5:45 excellent question and analysis! In kendo it's taught to continue rushing for two reasons: 1. It teaches a mentality of "finishing" the hit by committing to the forward motion: In bouts it has the practical advantage of selling the hit to the judges and demonstrating your spirit, but also causes your hits to be more confident/powerful. I'm sure many disciplines teach how focusing on the follow-through ends up with an all-round better strike. 2.Exactly like you said, It teaches you to get in the best position for a follow up strike: your opponent is either off-balance and backpedalling (so you have advantage) or, stands their ground, where there's a whole school of techniques about taking advantage of your momentum crashing into their body.

@alexdasilva2578 2 года назад

You literally read my mind @ 3:48 The kendo practitioner was a bit passive in the beginning. That Tsuki at 11:16 is INCREDIBLE by the way! It's already difficult enough with both hands, transitioning to the one while maintaining accuracy and stability is damn difficult.

@convictedmelon4608 2 года назад

I really enjoyed this sparring analysis/commentary. I'd love to see more in the future, especially with regards to more obscure weapons

@fabledredeyes 2 года назад

Man you probably have the best reaction videos in the whole youtube.

@midora588 2 года назад

Ahh I was missing you reaction videos.

@sebsdadez 2 года назад

You could spend an hour reacting to content from this channel and I would watch it.

@TatsuoMusashi 2 года назад

This was really interesting to watch/listen to your commentary. Please consider doing more of these types of videos!

@youremakingprogress144 2 года назад

Terrific video! Your commentary was insightful and enjoyable. I would love to see your commentary on more videos from this site - which looks great already.

@grantpflum6844 2 года назад

Despite flail guy being all left feet sword guy would not have been able to get as many hits in if they were using weapons more analogous to the real thing. With the flail being so light it has ALL of its power stolen. It doesn't matter for swords as much because they don't get they power from their mass and tend to be more evenly distributed on weight anyway. With a sword, all they have to do is touch you to do MAJOR damage. A flail on the other hand is ALL about that mass, about that mass (😝) and would be able to USE that mass to blow through most of sword guys guards and be able to disarm him far more regularly.

@beerthug 2 года назад

I disagreed with one flail strike where the fella let go with one hand, and let the shorter end just continue to hit the swordsman's side. I'd have to be struck myself before I'd believe the level of torque would do a significantly less amount of damage, especially with an outer layer of iron and a thick padded undercoat!

@neonnwave1 2 года назад

I think I found a new weapon I wouldn't mind having for self-defense.

@tomothybahamothy 2 года назад

Really enjoying the content lately!

@RafaelSouza-zj8ge 2 года назад

Really cool seeing two people that are probably skilled and have knowledge about martial fighting with weapons duking it out in a nice sparring. So interesting to see the advantages of each weapon type, and how the creativity of each fighter played a role in the fight. They seeing the gaps in each other's guard, prying for openings. So amazing and fun!

@DrakkarCalethiel 2 года назад

Well, definitely a very unconventional matchup. More fight analysis / reactions would be awesome!

@howHumam 2 года назад

I bet some farmers with rice flails defended themselves against samurai who only had their swords at some point in history.

@chengkuoklee5734 2 года назад

@@howHumam No, under most normal circumstances knight/samurai will butcher phesant. Good thing about farmers or labourers is-" they can do this all day" So it's up to commander to set up scenarios to force knights or samurais to fight on his choice of term to maximise farmers' "do this all day".

@marcogenovesi8570 2 года назад

I wasn't expecting someone wearing what looks like 3D printed "cool" armor to wreck face as much as he did

@-Devy- 2 года назад

So what, you were expecting him to fight in his pajamas?

@SuperOtter13 2 года назад

Great video and commentary Skall. Love this stuff. Big fan of flails

@TomSpeeddraw 2 года назад

That was very interesting and entertaining, thank you for this bringing up this sparring

@jamesfrankiewicz5768 2 года назад

Looks like similar results to the somewhat recent videos on Tod's Workshop (feat. Matt Easton of Schola Gladiatoria). The sparring on Tod's video featured both flail vs. sword and flail vs. flail.

@sevenproxies4255 2 года назад

Happy to see that the swordsman didn't get stuck in kendo routines only. He went for plenty of "non-approved" thrusts and cuts, which will count ss hits in HEMA but won't earn points in Kendo.

@marcogenovesi8570 2 года назад

well the other dude wasn't wearing traditional kendo dress anyway so why being fully compliant

@sevenproxies4255 2 года назад

@@marcogenovesi8570 Because that's what years of training does to a person sometimes. Kendo is not swordsmanship but a sport with rules. If you've only been training in a sport, it won't make you a good swordsman by definition. And I do think I can see that he starts out the sparring adhering more to Kendo regulations. But the more the sparring goes on, he starts to deviate and improvise since adhering to Kendo regulations clearly doesn't work. 😁

@lordbravura 2 года назад

Actually people would be surprise with how many "moves" Kendo have. It changes from school to school and if your Kendo is sportive or not, but back in the day i used to pratice Katas from several schools, the 3 (or 4) from the japanese army on WW2 and even Yakuza ones. The school i praticed had a very clear "in combat anything goes" policy and some bonkers moves would show up now and then. The person on the movie has great leg positioning and a very good posture.

@white-noisemaker9554 2 года назад

That's not entirely true. The one-hand thrust is an actual technique taught in kendo. It's usually performed with the off-hand for greater reach. It is however considered a surprise or desperation attack, and not generally encouraged because of the high potential for loss of the weapon.

@egehannalbant5572 2 года назад

All his moves are very much Kendo techniques. One handed thrust is called "katate-tsuki" His deflectionnal parries are called "Kaeshi" and "Ukenagashi" His one handed cut from a high stance is called "Katate-men" from the stance "Jodan no kamae" Those would have earned points in Kendo as well. So your comment is incorrect in every way.

@GroundbreakGames 2 года назад

Entertaining and educational vid skall, thanks man!

@AL4RC0NR4MO5 2 года назад

That was really cool! Great analysis too!

@Krescentwolf 2 года назад

These guys at this Korean dojo do ALOT of really neat videos. Rapier vs. Shinai and some other stuff. I believe one of the practitioners there is actually very highly ranked in the sport.

@davidetosi2391 2 года назад

Flails, as any other blunt weapons, are also extremely deadly for armored opponets, unlike swords. In real real combat, swordsmen used an extra weapon for killing, here in italy it was called "misericordia" wich was like a very thin dagger/stiletto usually wore as a neckchain in the stile of a holy cross, hence the iconic name, to stab an opponent, during clashes, in the neck or the holes of the helm or armpit area etc where armor coverage was not plate or to sneak thru chain or padding. Normally with a hammer or a mace, you would just bash anywhere and call it a day, any hit with decent force was almost incapacitating, expecially in the head/arms/legs.

@kuronoch.1441 2 года назад

Also, one of the reasons why the Hussites managed to last that long in rebellion against practically all of Continental Europe minus Poland and Lithuania even with subpar equipment is because of their heavy use of two-handed flails. Apart from wagenburg tactics and disproportionate use of man-portable firearms.

@broadbandislife 2 года назад

@@kuronoch.1441 Uh, yeah, I'm pretty sure that "apart" bit was overwhelmingly the more important factor. Even a half-assed wagon fortress was a very effective field fortification (see eg. the Battle of the Herrings during the Siege of Orléans) that for most practical intents and purposes entirely negated enemy cavalry, never mind now one done with purpose-designed vehicles, and the Hussites having the foresight of also kitting themselves out with plentiful light artillery which their opponents rarely could match meant they could just sit pretty and blast away until the enemy force either committed to attack or spared themselves further bombardement by leaving. Peasant troops and rebels just used two-handed flails a lot for the simple reason they already had the handling down from threshing grain in peacetime, and a simple addition of metal reinforcements to the striking bar (and preferably swapping the connector to metal links that couldn't be readily cut) to convert it into an effective weapon could be quickly done by any village blacksmith worth his apron.

@NicholasJeffery 2 года назад

Enjoyed the commentary and breakdown of the sparring match

@matthewbentley1311 2 года назад

Great breakdown. Helpful observations

@sevenproxies4255 2 года назад

Looks like he flail guy made a mistake when the swordsman deflected. Look at how far his body is tilted forwards and how he ends up overswinging due to the deflecting parry. Looks like he's off balance a fair bit. Perfect opportunity for the swordsman to counter.

@ascrassin 2 года назад

Yea, look like he overextended a bit there (it's also not the only time it appends).

@SurmaSampo 2 года назад

@@ascrassin It is common for the person with superior reach to be eager to attack so a good tactic for the swordsman is to create an intentional opening when in the extended reach of the polearmsman to draw a specific attack with the parry/evade in mind ready to be executed as soon as the attack is detected. Extended attacks with polearms are just like lunges with single handed swords. They allow for an out of measure attack with the risk of being left exposed and can often be performed safely. The swordsman needs to have read the polearmsman's speed, tells and the potential attack vectors before this can be executed with any measure of success. Once proficient in this technique I have found it to be the most reliable way to cross the danger zone of the opponent's long reach advantage. To say this requires practice is an understatement.

@SurmaSampo 2 года назад

Believe it or not but this sort of parry can actually pull the momentum of the pole forward a little disrupting the polearmsman's balance. Once you see your polearm being taken offline in the attack you need to pull your the back hand rearward and downward to shorten the lever the mass of the head is using to pull you forward. Since the fulcrum is the lead hand you want to get your lever as long as you can as fast as you can to regain control. Fighting with a polearm is a continuous play of sliding scales between leverage and reach while trying to control your timing and position in the fight.

@TeleologicalConsistency 2 года назад

There's a reason battles weren't fought with Katanas as the primary weapon. They were considered a sidearm and mostly a noble's weapon. Battles were mostly fought with people in formation with bows and spears/polearms in ancient Japan. You simply can't close in with a katana when the other side is in formation and has a wall of shields and spears supported by archers.

@scintillam_dei 2 года назад

Samurais are number 1! Metatron implies so! Only ancient Romans could match them and the Mongols! How DARE you violate weeaboo's number 1 rule: THOU SHALT NOT TREAT THE SAMURAI AS A MERE MORTAL! I have already cast my deck of YuGayoh cards for voodoo forces to hurt you.

@scintillam_dei 2 года назад

boos'

@jonajo9757 2 года назад

Only exception would be if you were able to lose your main weapon, and or run out of arrows. (I'm not sure if this applies considering that I'm talking about Japan before adopting heavy calvary and Infantry)

@TeleologicalConsistency 2 года назад

@@jonajo9757 Which is why I said they were considered a SIDEARM.

@nathandc 2 года назад

Really enjoyed this and would enjoy more of them :-)

@Rich-jb3bi 2 года назад

Big fan of this video! Idk about your other viewers (which is what really matters), but I would be very interested in seeing more content like this

@TheGamingDroid9000 2 года назад

the running in in kendo is sort of for that reason, once you have done your strike if your enemy has range and strikes you, if your strike is judged ineffective they can score, so very quickly closing distance post strike robs your opponent of good form and range. Against a real sword if your first strike missed and you ran in you might impale yourself but in kendo tournaments a point the blade at the enemy and let them run onto it, isn't considered a scoring strike, so that quick close negates your opponents optimum strike range and chance to counter

@rajamicitrenti1374 2 года назад

One of the frustrating things about this part of Kendo/Kumdo is that not everyone agrees on how far you are supposed to go in order for your strike to count as having been properly committed to. I've had some instructors say to charge into them and stop, while others say you are supposed to charge through/past the left shoulder of your opponent far enough to be back at 1-step striking distance or a little farther when you turn toward them. And since the people having this disagreement are frequently judges who have to agree to give points in tournaments...

@TheGamingDroid9000 2 года назад

@@rajamicitrenti1374 :D the truth of any combat sport , the rules shift, and change and everyone argues about which rules are best or what should or shouldn't be

@rajamicitrenti1374 2 года назад

@@TheGamingDroid9000 It seems to me a major flaw that the rules are so open to interpretation on *how to score points* that unless you personally know each judge you don't know what you have to do to win. It would be like if some basketball refs thought dunks were always showboating fouls and other refs thought dunks were the only valid way to score a point.

@TheGamingDroid9000 2 года назад

@@rajamicitrenti1374 unrfortunately there is the issue in combat sports between having a wide enough rule set to capture the complexities of fighting vs a clear enough rule set that no ref ever makes a pure judgement call different to other refs.

@EpicOfChillgamesh 2 года назад

Went and subbed to them. Please keep up the reaction video's, this was very fun!

@matthewbryant8378 2 года назад

Love Weaponism videos and loved this commentary video, I'd be hype to see more

@Wolfsins 2 года назад

Honestly as cool as daggers, swords, axes, you name it, are. A simple long staff is op. Add a blade to that and it gets even deadly

@johno1544 2 года назад

Yeah the spear is no joke. Always wished spears and pole axes got more love in media.

@broadbandislife 2 года назад

I mean there's a reason the bayonet still sticks around while basically everything that came after the humble spear has been relegated to civilian hobbyists...

@Wolfsins 2 года назад

@@broadbandislife spear -> arrow -> gun. Fundamentally the same lol

@broadbandislife 2 года назад

@@Wolfsins w-what .-.

@martinez206045 2 года назад

I'm curious of one thing: how would this war flail perform in a formation / mass engagement? Dueling is one thing, but fighting in formation is another beast. Would the rigid pole-arms be better then?

@konstellashon1364 2 года назад

My novice suggestion is have a traditional shield wall, then a few long-handled flails behind them or guarding the sidelines of formation.

@martinez206045 2 года назад

@@konstellashon1364 I wonder if flails like that one could do a good job of going over the opposing shield wall.

@maxlutz3674 2 года назад

If the flail was better than the rigid pole arms in formations it probably would have been more widely used and we might have heard more about it being used. A formation would limit the attack angles for the flail guy. It would be interesting to see sparing formations to find out though. I still hope that the HEMA community get curious enough to actually try it.

@evanpalmer7297 2 года назад

They would be quite effective against a shield wall though that strategy mostly fell out of fashion by the time this type of flail became popular in Europe. They were a fairly cheep way to deal with armored opponents. Polearm wielding infantry formations would typically have a variety of weapons within one unit excluding stuff like pike formations of course. I wouldn’t want to be in a big group of people all using flails that sounds like a chaotic mess waiting to happen. Very intimidating for the enemy though.

@martinez206045 2 года назад

@@evanpalmer7297 yep, I was thinking of the amount of space needed to properly use that flail, without whacking friendlies :)). The dudes wielding these should be the biggest lads in the group and do mostly overhead swings.

@SuperOtter13 2 года назад

Enjoyed this very much. Love that channel was hoping someone would make a commentary on their videos. Whould definitely enjoy more of these mixed weapon fights. Cheers and thanks again

@Galphor 2 года назад

this was very interesting. thank you Skall. the War Flail has always been an interesting weapon to me since I learned of it & this was a nice video of it in action.

@happyblueconsort3106 2 года назад

With seeing the posibility of thrusting with the pole part of the flail, would it not make sense to attack a small spear head to it for exactly this purpose? Sure, It would make attaching the chain more difficult and the overall cost of the weapon would go way up, so probably not a "peasant weapon" anymore, but I could see it being used in duel and such as a bit of a obscure crowd pleaser weapon.

@aurele2989 2 года назад

good idea! gotta love multi-purposed sticks do maybe keep the spear-head small

@MalloonTarka 2 года назад

Since you then couldn't attach the striking end to the very end, I imagine the point would get in the way of the swings.

@fredjung 2 года назад

I was thinking the same thing. But wonder if the flail gets caught on the spear head. Only proper field testing will tell. A small axe head with a perpendicular spike might work too.

@marctaco2624 2 года назад

@@fredjung you could always attach it to the bottom

@fredjung 2 года назад

@@marctaco2624 That's a good idea too. Though the spear tip has to be small or you cut yourself.

@Lethoras 2 года назад

The one thing I wouldn't want to face if I am using a sword is a knight in full plate with a flail. You would have to get very lucky to get a hit in and a flail like that will be effective even if you're armored.