TBS - Team Black Sheep Is Back - Trappy Explains How It Was Almost Game Over

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@xjet Год назад

The fact that I still use my Tango2 every time I go flying (despite having a wide array of other RC systems with me) says a lot for the TBS brand and products. We should all remember that Trappy was pivotal in helping create and shape the whole FPV scene. Nice guy, mostly pretty good products.

@Chilternflyer Год назад

Yep! He shaped the hobby by posting videos flying low over the public in crowded places, low over busy roads full of traffic, along bridges (carrying traffic) and diving tall buildings with busy streets below them. Nothing unsafe about any of that. Then he ended up on court. Thank you Trappy for giving the US government a great excuse to set the FAA on us.

@xjet Год назад

@@Chilternflyer Sorry, I don't buy that. How many people were injured? How many died? How much property was destroyed or damaged? Oh... ZERO? Do you really believe the claims of a regulator that has repeatedly refused to do an independent scientific risk analysis of these sorts of operations when they say "too dangerous"? Do you really believe that Trappy's actions were more dangerous than those proposed by the FAA which include flying masses of huge delivery drones or air-taxis over people's houses and heads? Trust me, *this* will result in injury, death and property destruction but somehow it's okay? Our hobby remains the safest form of aviation every engaged in.

@BMSWEB Год назад

@@xjet 100% in agreement Bruce, the hobbies record speaks for itself as do the facts and data, all of which is ignored

@rehepeks Год назад

@@xjethere were no implosions of joyride submersibles before Titan aswell. Regulations and safety restrict innovation or whatever the guy said. I'm not saying his flying was unsafe as I have not watched any of his videos. What I'm saying is that the fact nothing serious happened is not good enough to conclude that all was safe.

@xjet Год назад

@@rehepeks Nothing ever happens until the first time... but ponder this... more people have been hurt by falling chunks of space rock than from Trappy's FPV flying. Better wear your hard-hat when you go outside.

@truthbw1 Год назад

An HdZero TBS partnership could be wild.

Год назад

They already said it'll never happen because Hdzero is a direct competitor to the tbs unify product line.

@MrSmithFPV Год назад

Who cares about hdzero? Some racers... No need to talk about.

@truthbw1 Год назад

@ was that said recently after TBS leadership consolidated, or before?

@abertheham Год назад

That’s what I’ve been hoping for ever since HDZ made their hardware available to third parties. I feel like that’s exactly what both companies and the community need moving forward.

@thirtythreeeyes8624 Год назад

@@MrSmithFPV I thought HDzero is doing pretty good, I see a lot more than racers using them but, the majority of racers are obviously interested in them too.

@bartonfink5051 Год назад

thanks so much Mad for covering this. I am one of the tbs die hards that really wanted to know what was happening with the company!

@papylecelte9916 Год назад

This is good news, TBS products are reliable, rock solid, and accurately presented in the description. Still my favorite brand to go.

@batmojuice5704 Год назад

Really glad to hear the news about Trappy. I transitioned to ELRS ONLY because I could not get the flagship TBS receivers. But after my experience with ELRS, there is no question for me that TBS is still the Cadillac of FPV. Given a little bit of TBS enticement, I will definitely return.

@erlandfpv Год назад

Elrs makes my day frustrated.😅

@MrSmithFPV Год назад

@@erlandfpv ELRS makes every pilots day frustrated... 😂

@erlandfpv Год назад

@@MrSmithFPV wow, thanks to let me know 😄 hhh

@Kleinage Год назад

@@erlandfpvelrs is a nightmare to setup and a dream to fly. Binding is super duper easy when the rest of the setup is right.

@marekfiferna Год назад

Elrs has the best documentation and support of pretty much anything in the hobby. The vast majority of issues happen when people don't follow the official guides or skip steps.

@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад

I'd like to see TBS do their own version of digital FPV. I'm sure they could do a superb system that would be rock solid! 😎🤘

@andyhoughtaling6319 Год назад

I completely agree. Their products have all been amazing so far, and I believe they would do great things in all avenues of FPV.

@MrSmithFPV Год назад

No, there was only one company who made that possible. DJI. Don't like them that much but they have created the one and only working digital system. Walksnail? Also a DJI product...

@doccock100 Год назад

@@MrSmithFPV ahh Mrsmith... there is so much overwhelming information that walksnail is not a DJI product. I would agree that DJI gives the most reliable and best quality image... but to suggest that it is the only, or that walksnail is DJI, is unfounded.

@Nine_883 Год назад

😂😂😂😂😂. No they cannot.

@Nine_883 Год назад

@@doccock100. Uhhh. Yes it is and there would be no Walksnail had DJI never had the air units. Walksnail is picking up the scraps and stealing whatever they can.

@tonymorgan328 Год назад

I prefer tbs crossfire over elrs. Elrs is good but crossfire is more intuitive and just plain works.

@Duraltia Год назад

IMHO one things TBS _needs_ to add to their Receivers is what Radiomaster just did with their new ExpressLRS Lineup and that is the absolutely crucial VBat Telemetry readout capability. I find it ridiculous that as a CrossFire User I have to rely on third party MatekSys Adapter Boards to get such functionality when apparently it is possible to have something like that available on a Receiver itself with the use of a single V+ Cable 😑

@miskaknapek Год назад

Thanks for the video! The TBS hangarounds are in great appreciation!

@MountaineerFPV Год назад

I am hopeful Trappy will right size the TBS ship……and give us 1w built in ELRS on the Tango2 👍👍

@TRITONFPV Год назад

Trappy and TBS has been at the forefront of my FPV experience for many, many years. Love me some Crossfire and Unify Pro 🤙🏻

@MCsCreations Год назад

Great to know, Ian! Thanks!!! 😊 Yeah, I hope they can get to the top fast! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

@WDZaphod 5 месяцев назад

9 Months later - still thinking, what's going on. Video wise, I moved to DJI O3. Still controlling by stuff, even the big wings, with my beloved Tango2. But I'm more and more thinking, if this has future. ELRS grew, it became mature and stable. What's left? There is currently no small Radio with the build quality of the Tango2. But 10 years ago, I had a Tango1 with Crossfire, a TBS VTX, TBS Cam, TBS Antenna, TBS Table, TBS Powercube. Most of the things are gone. No Betaflight Support for Powercube anymore, no digital VTX, no news from Crossfire. The folding table is still there, and the Tango2. Sad...

@joshgault61 Год назад

I am probably one of many that would only try ELRS if it was on TBS hardware, as you just know it would be a step above

@bjjfpv4616 Год назад

Nice to know that tbs is not dead.

@Pintosonic Год назад

If the tracer TX and RX hardware are compatible with ELRS, it would be very smart for TBS to come out with a firmware update to convert tracer hardware to ELRS. Since the Tracer system doesn’t have any traction on the market, TBS would make way more money if they made their Tracer hardware run ELRS firmware. Even if the TBS RX and TX are a little more expensive compared to other ELRS RX and TX, it would sell because TBS has much better support.

@christophdunkel1562 23 дня назад

A Mambo Crossfire was the first ever Mambo that existed 😅

@anzacFPV Год назад

It would be a good option to flash elrs to the crossfire hardware. That could be a game changer.

@ferocious_r 3 месяца назад

Hey Trappy, can you puhleeese put the Pro32 Nano back in production? They're getting so scarce on the used market, so that'd be sooo sweet!

@T1MEHUNT Год назад

would be nice to see you do an interview with TBS on this channel

@MadRC Год назад

Trappy hates me. He things I’m a Welsh carrot.

@skysailorfpv Год назад

When I started I used Crossfire, and I still only use Crossfire

@johnnixon9444 Год назад

I’m personally very glad. I still run xfire on all my rc toys. Excellent range ease of use what’s not to like. Love it

@jessehoffman5302 Год назад

crossfire may be a little more expensive than the alternatives, sure, but i will be loyal to TBS until it is not offered anymore. TBS has shown me the greatest customer service out of any company i have ever dealt with. I bought my tango 2 pro from a 3rd party seller on amazon that had absolutely no affiliation with TBS whatsoever, and yet, when i encountered an issue, TBS worked tirelessly to solve it for me and even sent me a new mainboard for my radio completely for free. they didn't have to do any of that, so they certainly bought my loyalty there. not to mention that crossfire just works. It works flawlessly and easily every. single. time.

@SummerCrowfpv Год назад

Every one of my birds are TBS crossfire even my micros are tbs and will go out farther then any video signal can match on a mini or micro, and my long range rigs ….yes people still do long range…..they are all TBS and putting out massive power, I live in rural NE Texas and I can easily fly to any spot on my farm. I can also fly out several miles to the nearest town and back no problem. Glad TBS will be around a while longer

@hunter-ct9ky Год назад

I love my tango 2.

@Rckid28 Год назад

Thank goodness, crossfire is the only radio link that works for me

@ClareFPV Год назад

This keeps happening over and over with companies that are comfortably sitting at market leaders. Uber only exists because of the ridiculously expensive and terrible cab services, AirBnB only exists because of the horrendous and terrible hotel services and ELRS only exists because TBS haven't made any improvements to rc link protocol in years and simply didn't need to because there were no one to threaten to take their throne.

@406fpv9 Год назад

They need to make a mambo with crossfire built in and edge tx.

@Pilotltd Год назад

Only use TBS crossfire on my quads and rovers. Works fine and I'm a "if it ain't broke" type I've seen no reason to go elsewhere.

@spyder000069 Год назад

In my opinion crossfire still is best system for anyone running ardupilot. You want the serial link to interact and work with a groudstations to change settings and such. ELRS method of a seperate rxtx as a data link is not the right method for me. Also being able to update the crossfire TX with new firmware and all receivers being able to download the new firmware from the TX is amazingly simple compared to each elrs receiver having to be updated on their own through the pc. TBS still has a good thing going for now.

@cohibamatt8117 Год назад

I think Lost their their way. I ordered a fusion from them. When I got it the button was broken in the box. I reached out to tbs and they told me I would have to pay for a new button $7 plus shipping and handling. Last tbs product I purchased.

@MrFadjule Год назад

He put out the same tech we are using for ELRS, but charged us $500 . He had his run, MASSIVELY overcharged for the tech. He said he knew the end was coming , when ELRS was still being cooked up. This was all bound to happen. I know you can get into crossfire for like, $350 now, but that's still a wild markup. I don't see why you are still amped on the ripoff.

@LuMaxQFPV Год назад

I'm sure, like many here, I started FPV with Spektrum. Didn't know any better, just assumed that since I'd spent many hundreds of dollars on my DX-9s, that I had a 'forever' radio. I SOON found out that this naïve belief would result in an unwelcome aspect of my newly found FPV career, HIKING...aka SEARCH AND RESCUE aka: Poison Oak, bloodied arms and legs, Rattlesnakes, and falls. lol. After like the 20th such hike in a narrow canyon rescuing a quad, and stumbling upon a perfectly camouflaged partially subterranean camp/home occupied by an angry, homicidal, screaming maniac 'hermit'... I said, "Enough". Switched to Crossfire on all 8 of my quads at that time, and never looked back. And we never had another failsafe. Today with almost 30 quads, all Crossfire, my son and I have successfully flown thousands of flights in extreme places and conditions, never losing one piece of gear, or experiencing failsafes. I work in tech and electronics... to me, this is astounding reliability and rigor of design. Crossfire for life here, for all of our hobby, scientific and risky endeavors. This is great news. I'm glad they've worked it all out.

@Nullscr1pt Год назад

Bought a brand new Mark5 o3. Almost got a TBS Crossfire but when I saw it was out of stock everywhere, and there was little to no options on any sites, I saw red flags and said... ELRS all the way... open source > closed source. Encrypted? cool! but out of stock?? not cool... sorry TBS... you lost a customer because at the time of my build you just didn't have the stock to make me feel comfortable trusting ALL my future quads with your tech.

@Ice-FaceMedia Год назад

I REALY DONT KNOW TRAPPY BUT TBS IS LOVED ALL OVER THE WORLD......GET BACK BRO.......BUST IT WIDE OPEN.....WE KNOW YOU CAN ....%1000.......WE LOVE TBS......ALL THESE YEARS NO ISSUE HERE....EVERYTHING STILL WORKS.......IM THE BLACKSHEEP OF MY FAMILY.......WE MAKE THING HAPPEN.....++++BABA BLACKSHEEP HAVE U ANY WOOL YES SIR YES SIR .....TBS FULL....++++..IM WAITING....

@Nine_883 Год назад

This is great news for all of those TOOLS who ran out and got TBS logo tattoo. My Tango 2 is a paper weight. It was always junk and they would never replace it. They just kept insisting I try this and that and the other. Then they decided it was junk and sent me a whole new board TO INSTALL MYSELF. That would be great if I had ever even been able to use the radio to fly a drone, but brand new they should have agreed that I would send mine back for repairs or replacement instead of sending me a whole new board to install myself. Like I have time for repairing their junk. I never flew a drone with it. Never used the radio. No matter what we tried I could never get a good LQ unless I was within 6 feet of the drone. I tried everything with the guidance of Mike C and still I never got it working and they never would replace it. F them.

@hooptiej Год назад

their customer support, shipping and general pride in what they do has been ass since well before covid, and trappys 'eff you im always right' attitude has never helped. i hope he's had some humble pie to go with his dedication. His ego has hurt him as much as its helped him over the years.

@geometerfpv2804 Год назад

Trappy has been arrogant about the power of his brand for ages. He never believed anyone could compete with crossfire, and he laughed at Ghost and ELRS. Meanwhile, crossfire was never updated, and he thought they could release tracer despite the old tech, and brand name recognition would win out. You don't have to guess about this stuff, he says it out loud on stream. He's an ass. They deserved to be outcompeted. They were like IBM in the 80s. They needed a Microsoft and Apple to come along and show them what innovation looks like. I'm not sorry. Ain't gonna fly a 50hz link in 2023 for MORE money, sorry...

@helidude71 Год назад

TBS lost the control link market by not innovating for too long. Hope they bring some other nice products in the near future.

@Karolk64 Год назад

TBS Still has a lot of weight in their analog video equipment lineup but Crossfire is going the way of the dodo if nothing changes in the coming years. It is just inferior to ELRS simply due to availability problems and costing twice as much for basically the same features and performance, especially as more and more reputable companies like RadioMaster start offering high quality, reliable ELRS gear.

@BOTGRINDER Год назад

radiomaster isnt what id call reputable, everyone seems to forget they just cloned frsky products for years until they started making their own radios.

@Karolk64 Год назад

@@BOTGRINDERreputable" might have been the wrong word to use here, but at least their ELRS hardware seems to be solid. Fact is that ELRS is picking up steam and that puts a real fire under TBS's ass. The only thing keeping crossfire competitive for now is proven quality and reliability of the hardware. For someone new chosing a radio ecosystem, paying double for tbs is getting harder and harder to justify. Back when there was no competition going crsf was a no brainer. Not the case anymore. Either way, I hope TBS makes a comeback and gets back to shaking up the industy with innovative stuff like they used to.

@audiogek Год назад

Don't know what you mean with reputable but I bought the tx16s v1 and it's a cheap piece of junk. Only like it because of the nice screen (which also has a bright huge spot in the corner btw) And elrs is anything but user friendly, which is one of the reasons I switched to tbs.

@420247paul Год назад

Radiomaster is not good quality it is inferior frysky clones

@1967friend Год назад

TBS who?

@falconfpv8658 Год назад

Thats good to hear! I love TBS gear. It just works. I havnt updated my crossfire system in forever, and it still just works. I like not having to mess with it, and just being able to use it.

@KOrnhOliO1 Год назад

Well said... So true!

@bugsy742 Год назад

Yup 👍 🤝

@bobwyattfpv9847 Год назад

Don’t update😆

@torpedoLaw Год назад

I like trappy he’s been in the game for a long time. There is nothing better in this world then competition. It keeps everything innovative. Trappy, go out and invent some thing and make it come back. We need you in the FPV industry.

@JekleFPV Год назад

Can you imagine TBS making HDzero VTXs..! That would be badass!

@x8n1720 Год назад

About the lack of progression I switch to Radiomaster / ELRS and sell all my TBS Stuff. To bad, but I like EdgeTX and many of the ELRS Products.

@aerialimagery3216 Год назад

After using tracer and getting a lot of failsafes, I switched to ELRS 2.4 and couldn’t be happier. I was really looking forward to Tracer with Lora but it took too long. I tried the beta Lora firmware and could get it to work. Hopefully they can turn things around although, I would imitate they have lost a lot of customers to ELRS.

@martincreator2960 Год назад

Crossfire > Tracer. should have just stuck to crossfire. Dont think i ever In my life got a failsafe using Crossfire Micro

@geometerfpv2804 Год назад

@@martincreator2960Why stick to crossfire when you can use ELRS? Crossfire uses lora in 150hz mode. Why would you use a 50hz control link in 2023 when ELRS is cheaper? TBS is badly outdated, people just buy for the brand. Crossfire was good when everyone was using frisky. After ghost and ELRS, it makes no sense. Tracer was an arrogant attempt to show that people would buy anything with a TBS name on it...and Trappy was wrong. He's always been incredibly arrogant about the power of the TBS brand, I'm glad he finally got what was coming to him. He always scoffed at the idea of anyone competing with crossfire on stream, and so they never updated it. Well...

@a.i.thinker4059 Год назад

TRACER STAYS!!! been using it since launch and works perfectly! If anything they should come out with a single antenna version with the same performance if possible, but even that is not necessary. It works great! Moved to that from crossfire and don’t need anything else for my freestyle flying cuz it works! TRACER STAYS!

@bkfpv Год назад

Same experince here as well. Rock solid in all my builds.

@DarrenAllatt Год назад

Disagree with binning Tracer. If you look at all the feedback on ELRS everyone says the initial friction to get into it is quite difficult. One of the biggest selling points for Crossfire is that it’s far easier. So, if they improve the RC link capability of Tracer through firmware, get it on all of their BNF deals with manufacturers- their selling point for Tracer, is “Easy ELRS”. Even at the higher price point, people will pay for convenience. Although the price difference between ELRS and Crossfire has decreased.

@OgopogoDG Год назад

I use to make that argument, but I don’t really feel like it’s the case anymore with ELRS

@recon_fpv Год назад

2 Points I fully agree with: Crossfire Mambo, and HDZero + TBS joining forces. Always enjoyed how much TBS puts back into the hobby. So thankful they are sticking around. Can't wait to see what they come up with next!

@vanlifefpv6340 Год назад

ExpressLRS is taking over so the end is near for Crossfire...

@maro0016 Год назад

I was using crossfire and will not stop using crossfire.

@PedroTome75 Год назад

I like tbs a lot.thank you for talking about that! lets go TBS!!!!

@nupixelfpv Год назад

TBS is dead to me. I'm not loyal, I sold my Crossfire and move all my quads to ELRS, including "long range" build. I like open source, i like Betaflight, ExpressLRS and EdgeTX. TBS can't offer me anything that I don't get from open source projects. TBS can now copy ELRS (RC link via LORA RF protocol), but if it starts charging more money than open source competitors, I don't expect success. The wheel cannot be reinvented.

@breakflight Год назад

They need to start making ELRS gear, instead of only competing with it. Many would love to buy TBS ELRS gear. And many of those, like me, won't buy TBS another way. This is coming from someone with many, many Crossfire RX and modules that I haven't used in years.

@SkyZombieAerials Год назад

Theoretically, would it be possible for TBS to cook up an update to my Mambo to make it run ELRS internally?

@DanoFPV Год назад

I would buy a tango 2 pro immediately if they offered one with built-in. ELRS. Until they offer something with built-in ELRS I really don’t care about TBS.

@svisj Год назад

I'm quite new to the hobby, but I invested everything into ELRS from the start. And since I haven't had any previous experience with any other rc links yet, I didn't get mad at the "hassle" with ELRS either. I got the Zorro right now, but I would really like to try out the Tango controller. If they make a Tango 3 with built in ELRS, then I would jump at it right away, but it seems like that might not be feasible considering ELRS is their main competitor(even though its open-source), which is a great shame in my case, because it probably means I will never buy a TBS product.

@MrSmithFPV Год назад

We need crossfire v4 and a CRSF Nano Diversity Pro. Crossfire 4 life!💯👌🔥

@timechaser4313 Год назад

Nailed it! Mambo with internal Crossfire.

@DimmyV Год назад

Yeah the Tango 2 is incredible and I enjoy the easy of use unlike the stories ive heard with ELRS trying to connect. I just want to fly and have that reliable connection. Can't wait to see what comes out!

@DivisionRc Год назад

Still never gonna move from ELRS or RadioMaster

@Dav2112 Год назад

I thought when that live stream started that Trappy was going to say they were calling it quits, I'm glad they're not going anywhere, all my gear is running Crossfire and most of my quads have Unifys in them too.

@ror-ys3qp Год назад

good to hear. Use my crossfire 915m mostly every day. Nice long telemetry range and control.

@testpilotian3188 Год назад

It boggles the mind that instead of saying “I don’t want to do this anymore, buy me out” the partners solution was “I’m going to fuck the company I started just because I can”. I’ve also gone back to my Tango 2 after a period using a Zorro, the Tango 2 is just so much better.

@406fpv9 Год назад

I'm guessing expresslrs are really putting strain on tbs. I love tbs but my prediction is that expresslrs will eventually be tbs's demise.

@torpedoLaw Год назад

TBS has no doubt going to have to change their business model.

@kyrofpv Год назад

Tango 3 and Mambo 2 with tracer or crossfire versions. Love my tango 2!

@thomasnagel3612 Год назад

Won't happen for a good reason: Copy all of CRSF things and claim to be better XD ELRS is a step backwards in terms of quality reliability and performance and features. They had problems and couldn't deliver the updates you wanted but they will be and then goodbye ELRS

@MrAlucardDante Год назад

If TBS want to survive, they should open source CRSF, abandon Crossfire and Tracer, and works with the ELRS devs. ELRS 900 is better than Crossfire and ELRS 2.4 is better than Tracer. Also they should ditch their FreedomTX OS and work with the EdgeTX devs. They make good modules and radios, but the software side is a mess. Just use Open Source software that has been battle tested and used by every manufacturer for the past 2 years

@spyder000069 Год назад

If TBS jumped on the ELRS wagon how will they make money? They can't compete with happymodel on production costs. They make money by having a unique product. ELRS is missing many features of crossfire. There latest addition of doing mavlink over a sepereate receiver/tx is a joke when crossfire can do it with no additional hardware just like dragon link was able to do before them. Crossfire is not the fastest link but its always been a pretty solid setup.

@audiogek Год назад

Please watch the stream and try to understand his view on why things didn't progress at TBS.

@MrAlucardDante Год назад

@@spyder000069 well I guess you answered their own question. By contributing to the project like adding mavlink to the firmware directly. Or releasing a module and receiver with 2 tx/rx so you can use that new feature. Or like axis flying, they can release ELRS products with higher end components, happymodel makes cheap modules but they aren’t the greatest quality (at least they are not betafpv kind of trash, but that’s another topic).

@nicolasazar96 Год назад

Tbs is overpriced and overrated

@EnglishTurbines Год назад

I've avoided ELRS on 2.4....Crossfire is a quality sorted brand....The End, and 868 mhz will outrange 2.4g all day long....🤔😳😏🇬🇧

@grimripperrr Год назад

I’ve been saying that if TBS manufactured ELRS receivers I’d buy them

@RCRitterFPV Год назад

Tango2 is my Goto... So nice I bought it twice... My Boxer is ok... I do crossfire for 3.5" and up... ELRS for whoops... would love the new Mango to come out. with internal crossfire and tracer or ELRS. 900 for bigger 2.4 for micros.... just need the shoulder arm button to be a little nicer....

@1337flite 8 месяцев назад

TBS's New York video blew my mind and got me into FPV. Not straight way - I couldn't afford it at the time, but it stuck in my mind and when i had some spare cash. Trappy seems like a nice guy and very entertaining and charismatic. | And their support has been excellent. I've sent components back from the Powercube as well as a couple of HVs and they repair them and send them back. I hope TBS stays alive . Glad Trappy has the helm (sticks) and hope TBS stays around to help keep us flying.

@erlandfpv Год назад

Elrs it's amazing, but stay using TBS makes my day playing fpv since 2019 its stable, TBS still my one and only RX till now. Yes I've trying using elrs, and i do not like how elrs make me confusing and many troubleshooting..

@MadDragon75 Год назад

They messed up by not working with RDQ. When I started looking for an upgrade from D16 I searched RDQ for their TX and went with something else. 🤷 Pride can create more trouble than it's worth.

@mjodr Год назад

I could tell TBS was a fly-by-night sorta homebrew treasure chest of products that could be awesome and then went semi-full production retail. It's almost like if I started a company and it got popular, but I had no idea what I was doing, which I don't. That actually appeals to me! However, I always hovered over the "buy" button knowing this. I noticed over the years the hype, traffic, stock, etc on the TBS site was getting thin and I started to distance myself from it. But, it never fully disappeared. It has been an interesting case study in the retail world, FPV in general, how to do business, etc. That being said, I don't think I've purchased anything from TBS, lol. Whatever. Time to charge a battery.

@nateteator3901 Год назад

Any plans to integrate a TBS Crossfire plug on flight controllers? Or maybe integrate the Nano receiver into a flight controller? It's too bad the DJI 03 air unit has such a poor controller2 to go with it. It really forces everyone to remove sbus and go with Crossfire or ELRS. A sub 250 build would really benefit from an integrated control link without the extra boards, wires, tiny solder joints, and antenna.

@TomHerriman Год назад

In March, I bought a Tango II to start my FPV journey. I was not, and still cannot manage to get it to calibrate correctly. After several frustrating and unsuccessful email exchanges with Mike at TBS, I gave up. I bought a Radiomaster Boxer which had perfect calibration right out of the box.

@rolliseventeen Год назад

cool, so lora is really coming to tracer? i hope this will happen soon, because you know, TBS fanboy since day -122. Gruss aus Ravensurg ;-)

@mikesyr Год назад

Open source ELRS will be able to out develop TBS technologies, unless TBS spends a whole lot of money, I don't see anything changing.

@drmental4217 Год назад

I finally gave up on TBS after their equipment broke yet again on my vacation. This is 2 for 2. And no stock available to buy anywhere. Just bought a starter kit for ELRS so i don't have to be dependent on a specific company being around for me to fly.

@crckdns Год назад

TBS was just way to extensive due to lack of concurrency. So they would deserve to die completely because of artifical high prices.

@typxxilps Год назад

Keypoint is that ELRS has no proper certification for the EU which means they might run LBT and only 100 mW but there is more. And then you only have TBS crossfire left cause Trappy has to arrive safely in the EU and Switzerland without issues like other chinese brand owners that are not expecting trouble at the customs when they are held responsible. I have started ELRS again after a first adventure over 2 years ago with that R9 module from fr sky I had tried to flash and was not really convinced cause it was a long a winding road. But my Crossfire system with 3 receivers in total will stay with me which I had ordered in those glory old days before shortage & inflation and other nightmare for 220€ as a kit with a Radiomaster TX16S. And I still love it and I was really happy to hear the story and what was going on that caused the slow down or stall of tbs. Trappy has lost a former business friend and has learned a lot from that, so he might be keen to develope the brand now alone without being chained to a partner who does not agree or work against it in his back. I hope that at chrismas we will have seen some changes, upgrades, improvements too simply to start buying early the next kit.

@TheDroneNerd Год назад

TBS is not what it used to be… Their customer support is not the same, and like I said, they’re just not what they used to be. If they would’ve kept up with the awesome customer support they USED to give than they would had kept a lot more customers. ELRS has been treating me way too good to go back.

@MrJasonodonnell Год назад

I Absolutely swear by TBS products and as I get to talk to a ton of people, crossfire is the thing that surprisingly interests others, no one cares about DJI video link or performance Lipo battery's.

@icebalm Год назад

Tango style and quality controller with EdgeTX and ELRS? Sign me up.

@OCD_FPV Год назад

I hope so bad they do stuff with the mom. I really love the Ergonomics Month the radio but I feel what is inferior to the boxer to the point where I don’t even use my mama anymore. I had major quality issues with it when it first arrived and required main board replacement. I would love to see the mambo brought up to the current times with either crossfire or ELRS. And would love to see Edge TX instead of freedom TX.

@rainmaker420 Год назад

I only had two failsafes in 6 years on CRSF. ELRS 2.4ghz failsafes way more often for me. Tried two different brand transmitters and receivers. CRSF is just more robust.

@vinny5203 Год назад

i've got about 5+ years on my Crossfire Mini starter kit. It has been flawless. It just works. My biggest disappointment with the mambo is having to run my crossfire module in it. i just want a simple full figured crossfire remote with nice gimbals that i don't need to run a module in.

@andyhoughtaling6319 Год назад

Glue it lol

@MrSmithFPV Год назад

Tango 2 with CNC Gimbal Upgrade and you are good to go. Best radio! 👌

@vinny5203 Год назад

@@MrSmithFPV i don't like little controllers. and the tango 1 had a stupid screen.

@bugsy742 Год назад

I had a tbs issue once and Trappy helped me out instantly and was nice about it even though it was a school boy error on my part, can’t say the same for other companies who tried to make out something was my fault when it was their crap QC I’ll always have time for anything to do with TBS 🤝

@bjrntorejohnsen1316 Год назад

TBS has always had great products. But please stop with the "it's coming in two weeks". It's not fun anymore. Be serious, the items cost a lot of money.

@FastSloW-qt8xf Год назад

I hope trappy gets tbs going profitably for himself. I'm not sure fpv would exist without trappy

@cpfpv6410 Год назад

I was looking for a new TBS Fusion the last couple days and nobody has them in stock so I had to buy a Skyzone steadyview X

@panosfpv Год назад

All of this has raised the price of crossfire receiver's. They must begin producing amd shipping amd lower the prices because elrs is cheap but crossfire is mich easier to set up and for me the best for a long time to come!