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Teardown of yet another GM 4L60E Transmission with no 3rd or 4th. What will we find?? 

Irocin Z
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A friend of mine asked me if I'd look at his other Son's transmission as It failed too. No matter how man of these I do, I always seem to be surprised at what I find!!
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@TravisBarras
@TravisBarras Год назад
Keep getting it on man it's done me wonders to watch your videos thanks brother come on with your next man
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ Год назад
Thank you! I'm glad you got something out of it!
@alchampion340
@alchampion340 Год назад
Yeah I’m learning from you, I’m not able to catch each video. 👍 keep up the GREAT WORK SMITTY !!
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 2 года назад
this is one of my top fav 4l60e vids - I lost the 3-4 also. thanks
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ 2 года назад
Thanks! I appreciate it!
@hardball107
@hardball107 4 месяца назад
A HD stock build up is always welcome with a list of "Should replace as long as we are in there". Corvette servo, HD sun shell, wide band, 3-4 pistons and HD clutch build to start. Maybe a little discussion on spacer plates and check balls. Anything to address the weak points. Thanks.
@abcwe10
@abcwe10 Год назад
I have a 2000 Tahoe with the same transmission. Everything was fine when the engine threw a rod. But after sitting for a couple years it won't shift out of second. First and second are good just no 3 or 4. Any advice?
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ Год назад
It could be either electrical or mechanical. It will take some diagnosis to find out. If I was to guess, with no check engine light, it's probably a forward sprag or the 3-4 clutch is just done. Like I said though, it will take some diagnosis.
@user-ev3xm7np8x
@user-ev3xm7np8x 11 месяцев назад
If it was electical, where would I look? My son said he was pressure washing the truck at the car wash and when he left it would not go into 3rd or 4th. I did go in and replace the solenoids. The pan was lose and leaking. Fluid looked black and burnt smelling
@thomascrowley9403
@thomascrowley9403 3 года назад
I'm always up for a build video. Especially when somebody does it right.
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ 3 года назад
Thanks for that!
@airplanegeorge
@airplanegeorge Год назад
well I was worried until I found I had knocked a vacuum line off while changing spark plugs. I don't know about those new-fangled transes but my 83 el camino needs that vac line to shift.
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ Год назад
Yes, yes they do...
@coreycampbell1689
@coreycampbell1689 3 года назад
Yup...the usual suspects. Misassembled 3-4 clutch, missing load springs
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ 3 года назад
Right??
@michaelbaskinmichael9862
@michaelbaskinmichael9862 8 месяцев назад
Is it possible just build the input drum without going all the way can’t really have time for all that and I know you ain’t got time do it twice either but seriously can I just put in new pistons and clutches
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ 8 месяцев назад
Sure you can, but I'd rather check everything while I'm there so I don't do it twice....
@roberthargrove4104
@roberthargrove4104 Год назад
Want to see
@mikefennick8044
@mikefennick8044 Год назад
I have to drive up to 7000 rpm or 30 mph and let it roll into gear would this be a mechanical clutch issue or electrical?
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ Год назад
Could be both, but more than likely it's mechanical
@turnmeupdontturnmedown8746
@turnmeupdontturnmedown8746 Год назад
Good video
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ Год назад
Thank you!!
@harvest38
@harvest38 Год назад
Drill a hole in your bench,so you dont have to hold the drum
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ Год назад
I have a hole in my bench at work, and I hate it. Everything finds that hole and falls through it, parts, oil, etc....
@randy1ization
@randy1ization Год назад
im having an issue where I cannot get my output shaft snap ring on. Im starting to wonder if the gear on the shaft for the speed sensor migrated, keeping the shaft from going in far enough.. we cant compare the old snap ring to the new one, because it shot out somewhere.. im wondering if the last builder used a thinner snap ring. im also wondering if shoddy aftermarket parts were used, that affected the tolerances.. im abt 2 mm short. thanks for any help.. we took it apart, and reassembled it 3 times, so I am pretty sure we are installing everything correctly.
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ Год назад
Sounds like there is a clearance issue that should be corrected. Or, it could be a mismatch like you mentioned of the parts that your using...
@randy1ization
@randy1ization Год назад
@@IrocinZ we had the large bearing on the bottom of the case above the spring cage.. we put the right bearing in and it is all good now. thanks
@flowerse123
@flowerse123 Год назад
I have a big question that will help a great deal if you can tell me the answer. “can I change out the sprag gear without removing the valve body? I have actually been running with only 1st , 2nd, & reverse for close to a year. The 4l60 I had rebuilt a couple years ago. It is my guess the sprag give way do to me coasting down hills in neutral then pulling it back in drive after getting past the bottom of the hill. I have watched your vedeo a few times. Thanks
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ Год назад
I have not witnessed anyone being successful in doing that. The band and the way its positioned makes it impossible in my eyes...
@jamesbrown4098
@jamesbrown4098 2 года назад
thanks is it to late to see the rebuild
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ 2 года назад
I do believe I did a series on this one too...
@hybridmusclegarage4590
@hybridmusclegarage4590 3 года назад
Great job Smitty. You never know what your gonna get when you open a trans someone already opened.
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ 3 года назад
Very true...
@jeremyeberhardt5458
@jeremyeberhardt5458 Год назад
I'd like to see the build
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ Год назад
It's out there...
@wilburnmiller1851
@wilburnmiller1851 3 года назад
I want you to build it for me and the rest of the fans
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ 3 года назад
Thanks for the vote!!
@billmonroe8826
@billmonroe8826 3 года назад
You're overhauling it, Smitty. It needs a new sun gear and sun shell so it doesn't come back!
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ 3 года назад
Definitely the sun shell. I've got a surplus of practically new sun gears so we'll get him fixed up either way!
@billmonroe8826
@billmonroe8826 3 года назад
@@IrocinZ Yes sir! You look like you were ready to crawl under another car today. lol
@giovannilopez9427
@giovannilopez9427 2 года назад
hey man wondering if you could help me out I have a 2011 Silverado with 4l60e I have first and second gear doesn’t catch 3rd or 4th. What could he the issues I was thinking about replacing the shift solenoids and the torque converter solenoid
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ 2 года назад
More than likely, the forward sprag is broken. Either way you look at it, it'll probably have to come apart...or the 3/4 clutch is burnt up...
@terryburrows1142
@terryburrows1142 Год назад
Motor transmission and shit General Motors
@dafuq2165
@dafuq2165 8 месяцев назад
I had my 1995 chevy blazer 4l60e rebuilt and within a couple months the 3rd gear slipped im wondering if the builder messed up
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ 7 месяцев назад
Could have with a cross leak in the input housing, or maybe a Teflon ring got cut on reassembly...any thing is possible
@kimberjones9968
@kimberjones9968 3 года назад
Dirt doesn’t do a truck any favors. Austin keep it clean man
@matthewryevortech9765
@matthewryevortech9765 3 года назад
All I see is 3 &4 trying to shear the clutch teeth comes from heavy pedaling in either gear
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ 3 года назад
That's a real possibility. He bought the truck used and its hard telling how the previous owners took care of it...lol
@richmondlynch1667
@richmondlynch1667 Год назад
Iick see do a built on one
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ Год назад
There are plenty of build videos on my channel
@richmondlynch1667
@richmondlynch1667 Год назад
Cox I have a 2003 Chevy avalanche 4x4 is sleeping between 3rd and 4th gear trying to figure out what it is I thank need be it to rebuild
@michaelbaskinmichael9862
@michaelbaskinmichael9862 3 года назад
And a zpax I put in didn’t know about certain apply ring I would need would it not work at all even if I got tolerance right
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ 3 года назад
If the tolerance is right, then chances are you have the right ring in there. It does tell you to check for the correct on in the instructions that comes with the Zpak.
@Malik-wh8bt
@Malik-wh8bt 2 года назад
I just tore down a 4l60e with everything in the input housing cooked
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ 2 года назад
Seen it before...
@terrycarl6672
@terrycarl6672 3 года назад
Always enjoy watching the tear down and build ups
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ 3 года назад
Thank You!
@siberianstuntman3344
@siberianstuntman3344 2 года назад
Hey, is the 4l60e much different from a 4l60 other than solenoids and all the electronic components
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ 2 года назад
No different.
@josecarreira8934
@josecarreira8934 3 года назад
i'm up for another video
@kimberjones9968
@kimberjones9968 3 года назад
Build it man. At least my kids will keep you busy
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ 3 года назад
Lmao!!
@james102377
@james102377 2 года назад
Buy a Ridgid half inch drive gun. Beats any air impact gun I've ever used. It'll break stuff and strip stuff...lol
@james102377
@james102377 2 года назад
For the record the day I got it and brought it to work I had the shop try it out on tractor lugnuts. They didn't have time to really test it but blasted on a nut at over 400 ft lbs and took it off. I asked Ridgid for the specs and their answer was it's in the manual but it wasn't and they apologized. That was the first model which was $329 at the time. They discontinued that one and came out with a slightly smaller one but I haven't had the pleasure because that monster has done just about everything I've thrown at it and what it couldn't do I had to break off with a breaker bar and all my body weight.
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ 2 года назад
The one I have at home is a Milwaukee Mid torque and it does pretty well. I have not bought the big boy but I hear it does really well. I still use my air quite a bit and with 175psi running through it, there is not much it won't take care of...lol
@james102377
@james102377 2 года назад
@@IrocinZ i think there's a air model Hellcat or something like that which is supposed to be the best out there. I looked it up a long time ago and I think it was around 250 at the time but for convenience and portability I went with that ridgid and no regrets whatsoever although for a while I think it was spraining my wrists from the torque and weight of it. I have small wrists for a man so that didn't help matters...lol my girlfriend has bigger wrists than me and half the size of me.
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ 2 года назад
Lmao on the end of the comment! My Dad had bought some Rigid stuff and I've got no complaints with it either. All of it is getting better as time and technology improves.
@michaelbaskinmichael9862
@michaelbaskinmichael9862 3 года назад
Why would a pump in 4l60e fit one convertor but one convertor won’t go in all way to have enough room to bolt up flywheel
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ 3 года назад
You have to make sure you have the right converter for the right shaft. The 300mm won't interchange with a 298mm for one. And when installing the converter, it should drop in a total of three times. If you get two and not the third, you will destroy the pump as the last drop is when the converter engages in the pump.
@michaelbaskinmichael9862
@michaelbaskinmichael9862 3 года назад
I’m not sure it’s got to be pump cause I switch pumps with very same year trans and it slide right in so I’m still lost has to what the problem is unless it’s the reluctor
@ice4278
@ice4278 3 года назад
Hey Smitty what's up yes I would like to see you Bill it
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ 3 года назад
Good to know!
@MrMkeiling
@MrMkeiling 2 года назад
Very impressive . I have a 98 c5 corvette that originally was leaking . I found a 10 mm bolt in the pan . I just wanted to change the fluid and fix the leak . Replaced the filter and fluid . 10-20 miles later no 3-4 gears . Any thoughts for the problem . Generally speaking how much is a rebuild at a dealer . Everyone else around here doesn’t want the job . Ty
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ 2 года назад
Our dealership policy prohibits me from rebuilding one of that age. They don't want to have to deal with a warranty issues. I can't really give you an exact cost, especially since the whole rear end has to come apart. The trans itself would probably be between 1400 on the low end and 2800 depending on current market prices and availability. That does not include remove and replace time....
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ 2 года назад
As far as what I think the issue is, it probably lost a Teflon ring on the input shaft...
@james102377
@james102377 2 года назад
I called around to a ton of places around me about rebuilding mine and nobody does it on the bench anymore because of too many problems with customers. Now as far as I'm concerned, if you rebuild a transmission completely and not skip out on things, no one should have a problem. It would technically be like getting one from a dealership right? I understand the issue with customers installing themselves but seriously, there's only a handful of things they could screw up and obviously nothing inside the transmission. I mean there really is only the front seal if for some reason they took the converter off and rear seal if no transfer case, and cooler lines. I get some want you to replace the cooler and lines or hot flush if someone has a machine to do it but other than that i mean it's all on the quality of the parts and person who did it.
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ 2 года назад
@@james102377 Agreed, but there are some people out there.....
@austinjones2989
@austinjones2989 3 года назад
I want to see it built
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ 3 года назад
I'm sure...😆 🤣 😂
@austinjones2989
@austinjones2989 3 года назад
😂😂😂
@kimberjones9968
@kimberjones9968 3 года назад
After it’s built you want to see the Bill ???
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ 3 года назад
@@kimberjones9968 😆 🤣 😂
@jonathanlawson4667
@jonathanlawson4667 3 года назад
My God that fluid was brown I'd say the death of that transmission was lack of maintenance
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ 3 года назад
Could have been the smoked clutch too...lol
@anthonychilders9273
@anthonychilders9273 Год назад
Really good man I wish I could get you ahold of mine my truck is about to stop pulling
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ Год назад
I appreciate that!
@jasonbarron6164
@jasonbarron6164 7 месяцев назад
Inspiring video earned my subscription definately want to see the build on this as i will be doing the same grateful to see no nonsense just gettin it done simplified version of tranny rebuild process
@tradersnotion
@tradersnotion 2 года назад
What pliers are you using for the output snap ring? Thanks for the video! Learned some things.
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ Год назад
I have a tool video out there that shows what I use on the regular
@robertpoteet6324
@robertpoteet6324 3 года назад
I like to see it rebuild please
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ 3 года назад
There is a whole series on this one and multiple others. Enjoy!
@carlsontowski6659
@carlsontowski6659 2 года назад
Put it back together!
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ 2 года назад
I did, in another video...or two, or three...
@randy1ization
@randy1ization Год назад
strong work young man!!!
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ Год назад
Thank you!!
@leoncio5753
@leoncio5753 Год назад
Excellent,..learning with all your work…
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ Год назад
Thank you!!
@bowietruck2000
@bowietruck2000 Год назад
THANK YOU. PLEASE DO A VIDEO ON THE BUILD UP.
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ Год назад
It's out there under Austins 4L60e on a Playlist
@budmanzoom4441
@budmanzoom4441 Год назад
That 3-4 clutch was, indeed, a mess!
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ Год назад
Yes it was!
@76Rambler
@76Rambler 2 года назад
Do you have the rebuilt video?
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ 2 года назад
I've had several rebuild videos, and getting ready to do another.
@jasonsmitherman1774
@jasonsmitherman1774 3 года назад
Great job!
@IrocinZ
@IrocinZ 3 года назад
Thanks brother!
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