Teen Gojo vs Jogo (Why It Isn't As Close As You Think) 

I will never not find it funny that the only two proper fights we've ever seen Jogo in were against the only two people who could realistically bully him the way they did. If almost anybody else were to fight him (aside from maybe Yuta, Hakari, and Yuki) Jogo would have railed. Jogo having to fight Adult Gojo and 15 Finger Sukuna is like making Kenpachi fight Yamamoto, survive, and then fight Aizen. Like give him ANY other opponent and he would at the very least give a pretty good fight. But Gege had to give Jogo that respectful disrespect and match him up against the two most haxed mf's in JJK.

Jogo had to face prime Gojo and 15 finger sukana in the span of a few months. Mans couldn’t catch a break.

I remember debating this on reddit and people called me a madman for thinking Jogo could beat him. I don’t think people realize just how strong Gojo is in the current day compared to his early high school days

Finally! This really needed to be done. Too many people clown on Jogo for losing to the 2 power ceilings of the series.

Gojo Awakening was supposed to be an equivalent of enlightenment in real world, Buddha was normal people before enlightenment after enlightened he's seen as heavenly creature, if you apply this for gojo satoru the awakening he experienced make him ascended to divine realm the difference between pre awakening and awakened gojo was like earth and sky

And I was getting called an idiot for thinking that jogo could defeat teen gojo. This dude Jogo doesn’t even get any credit in the anime and the manga. He has killed a lot of sorcerers before he counters prime gojo and 15 fingers sukuna and people are calling weak. This is prime gojo who is the strongest sorcerer in this generation and 15 finger sukuna who's the king of curses that can kill maharoga, the monster that killed two head clan sorcerers in the past.

feel bad for jogo and mahito's domain lmao. both are things that would actually prove to be formidible if they got shown more. if not for sukuna and gojo mahito's domain would be the strongest even now tbh. and jogo... we all know he fought the 2 strongest in the verse. no need to say anything there.

man that awakening did wonders for Gojo

Jogo has one of the worst luck in the whole series.

are you ever gonna talk about hakari and his scaling or abilities?

The editing in this video is top tier.

Love this versus man, keep doing them pls

In the latest chapter of JJK, Gojo stated that he had learned Falling Blossom Emotion as a kid, implying he could use it against Jogo. I could argue about Simple Domain being in his toolkit, but maybe that's overstretching it. Maybe it won't even change a thing or maybe it gives Gojo a chance against Jogo.

sick matchup, i always find teen gojo and jogo to be super interesting to scale and discuss editing was great btw !

Nice video, you showcase great evidence and scaling while tying in good humor and editing. Though I disagree with you sometimes, it’s refreshing seeing someone in this community who has a clue when it comes to matchups and such

Your editing is improving dramatically

Love the editing

I loved the editing in this video

After unlocking Reverse Cursed Technique which uses 2x Cursed energy(-) to make Reverse Cursed Energy(+) Which is used for Healing, Reversal red, mixing red and blue for Hollow purple and as he posses 6 eyes which make your CE usage close to zero in a CT

Man you've improved your editing

Pre-Awakening and Post-Awakening Gojo are completely different beasts

My take on this fight is, if Gojo can land enough blows to equal 5 black flashes from Yuji and a strike from Todo with playful cloud then Gojo wins. However if Gojo can’t finish the job, Jogo is going to use Domain Expansion and then Jogo wins. The fight is definitely in Jogo’s favor since he just needs to use Domain Expansion.

I’d like to see a versus between maki and megumi (given that maki is being heavily paralleled to toji). Thanks!

Hey, just a quick question. We know that gojo can use reverse curse energy in his technique and create something new (reversal red/ divergence)... Do you think others could also do that, for example, sukuna could probably use the opposite of cut i.e paste(stick objects and humans to create horrible amalgamations probably).. While reverse curse has been used by many different people, so far only gojo comes to mind who has actually used that in his curse technique

firstly i should say that i also think that jogo would win the fight against pre-awakened gojo. but there are several things that should be mentioned. 1)jogo's speed. i really don't think that jogo is faster than toji. naoya had to constantly speed up by using projection sorcery multiple times in battle with awakened maki who is on toji's level (maybe SLIGHTLY lower just because she is 16 year girl and toji is 30+ year man). dagon said that naobito is faster than jogo, and naobito used his CT just 1 time from position when he stood still (so PS didn't have any acceleration before 1st frame of movements) and he didn't use it in the row like naoya to speed up exponentially. naoya's speed with couple of activatios of PS > maki's/toji's speed (toji was capable to RUN ON WATER and maki in the latest chapter PUSHED OFF THE FUCKING AIR). naobito's speed with 1 activation of PS > jogo's speed. 2) jogo's domain. i agree that it will be the most difficult part of the fight to teen gojo, but there is 1 thing that y'all forgotten about: falling blossom emotion. the secret jujutsu art passed down in 3 big families that is used as counter-domain measure. of course it wouldn't work on domains which CT attacking not physically (mahito's for example), but jogo's domain is not like that. there's no way that precious heir of gojo family and future head of the clan was not taught this technique to protect himself against strong opponents. in conclusion: jogo still wins against teen gojo. and i think it still would happen in jogo's domain (when gojo is focused on FBE to protect himself from sure-hit attacks jogo can hit him physically like dagon did with naobito). but it would not be so easy to jogo as you say, he will barely survive this battle. actually gojo can even win under curtain circumstances, but it's unlikely.

Liking the new video style🤣

if you say jogo not killing Nanami and maki on the spot with his technique is an anti-feat then you are basically saying 3-finger sukuna and toji are not capable of one-shotting them either, we all know that doesn't sound right.

Good video, but Ronin forgot Jojo has domain amplification which would let his martial arts hit Gojo

0:21 nah you didn't need to do him like that

I think Toji overestimated Gojo in their first fight. With Blue being half as strong as Red, and Toji tanking Red, I don’t think Blue would be able to hurt him much at all even if it could hit him. Gojo has no win conditions.

Bro the laughing sounds when you showed gojo getting his ass kicked caught me offguard so hard that I started laughing my ass off at 3 am with my daughter sleeping next to me😂😂😂😂😂

This further supports akatamae(sorry for misspelling) stating that all curse energy is trying to balance out gojo’s mere existence to some degree. I’ll explain once I can put more evidence together😂

Gojo could use a simple domain to defend in the iron coffin domain. However he doesn't have a win card so he'll end up just tiring out. But I don't think it's the instant loss in the domain but rather a loss overtime within the domain.

You should do a match up video with Yuta and Hakari to see if what Yuta said is true about Hakari being stronger than him when he gets on a roll

I’m kinda curious about Gojo just post-awakening, so only having unlocked purple and maybe an incomplete domain and rct. He can’t do infinity around the clock, so it’d be interesting plus Jogo can probably beat him in domains

I will say Gojo´s base durability which he shows on the Gojo fight should scale up his cursed energy, which has been stated to be a massive pool naturally. While cursed energy can grow with training it has been stated to have hard limits based on your natural starting point. While you can still justify a significant increase due to the enlightenment he got from reversed curse technique. This would be the only major level up he´d have. So it is unfair to say he has no durability. If Gojo could previously tank an attack with no damage, a league below is taking some damage but nothing significant.

I think you could argue that Gojo has a simple domain and falling blossom emotion here, since he demonstrates both later on and says he “doesn’t really use [them] anymore”. But even so, Jogo’s domain would eat through a simple domain and the ambiant heat would weaken Gojo over time until he gave out

I literally called jogo wins when he put up a post about and explained how gojo is way weaker than he currently is…gojo literally has stamina problems as said by Gege in the fanbook and was talking about current gojo but the reverse curse technique stops all of that big drain but as a teen he isn’t fully the strongest yet but he’s like top above everybody else still to because the six eyes is already god tier but he made it go to an even higher level

I think Jogo definitely got the short end of the stick BUT teen Gojo is not to be played with. Toji needed ALOT to even fight teen Gojo JUST to still use the element of surprise. Toji is a monster but he’s not fighting a teen Gojo that wasn’t at 100%.

That's a pretty fair conclusion. The gap between pre and post awakening Gojo is surprisingly large. No reversed cursed technique takes out basically everything except infinity and blue and makes them actually costly abilities he can't keep active at all times, since red and healing are reverse techniques and purple is made by combining red and blue. Just as a point of interest/ possible nit-pick, the output of red being twice that of blue is just the minimum threshold right? Because red is a reversed curse technique, requiring reverse cursed energy which is "positive energy", as opposed to regular cursed energy which is "negative energy". Reverse cursed energy is created by "multiplying cursed energy by itself", akin to multiplying a negative number with another negative number to get a positive number result. So if the minimum value blue can run at is -1 (since cursed energy is negative energy & has negative value), then to create red you'd need -1*-1, for a total of 1. It's still a minimum output of "1", but to get that positive value instead of a negative one it requires twice the input of cursed energy. It's not necessarily that red is always twice as strong as blue, just that the weakest red must have at least twice the cursed energy invested then that of the weakest blue because of it's nature as a reversed curse.

Broken Ronin who do you think wins if Yuta and Teen Gojo were to brawl. I'd honestly think Yuta would win but I'd like to see your thoughts on it.

I don’t know, it seems like they said Jogo would win against Hanami simply because he uses fire against a plant-user. This would imply that they are roughly equals, or by counting their durability feats, say Hanami is stronger (at least when they are fighting someone else who’s comparing the two).

I need a clip of 2:46-2:50 without the commentary. That had me dying

Did you forget that teen Gojo has simple domain and falling blossom emotion? I'm not really arguing the result right now, but he is not helpless against domains.

God... this video made me realize how bad old jjk powerscaling used to be.

Jogo finally gets a W against gojo lol

This was really good, I would like a vs battle with Hakari vs hanami or Dagon.

Broken Zennin strikes again

Can you do a next one on adult Geto vs Toji

Gojo is apart of one of the strongest three clans which share a special technique that disables the sure hit affect of domains so he still has a chance even if Jogo activates domain expansion

Alright good sir, can I get a versus battle between Noritoshi Kamo and Maki Zen'in before Mai's death? Or maybe Yuji versus Megumi in the Goodwill arc?

so im thinking of making videos like this can u give me tips and a app to edit on btw im on pc

Ma boi teen gojo had no domain expansion n could only use infinity n blue💀 Edit: to be fair I always put Toji, current Maki n Jogo at around the same speed, a bit slower than Naobito n solidly slower than Naoya, tho now dat i think of it, how fast r characters like Kashimo, Yuji or Yuuta compared to them?

Is it a low difficulty, if u need domain to win a fight?

Hello man

Do a video on hakari vs teen gojo pls

Yes jogo sIams, teen gojo has no way to counter his DE

I think not considering the capacity for growth of the characters to be an error, if they where to face off in the manga Jogo would prob. play with food, with Gojo being weaker than him but not being able to be harmed, Jogo would then open his domain and Gojo would know for sure he is to be dead, that would surely be a catalist ,not dissimular from Toji, to go after learning domanin espansion, Gojo would probably end up with an incomplete domain, ugly at best, but would have a chance at at least escaping, or do some serius damage if his domain could impair Jogo a little with an overflow of information. I think it's fair enough to take in consideration the combat sistem and an evolution grow that is implied to be similar to Megumi's and sorcerer of that caliber. Gojo strenght in his youth was the biggest hostacle to his growth, since he didn't need to become stronger he didn't have many chances to progress in spikes like a normal talented sorcer could, and we know that if Gojo Satoru has something, it is talent.

Toji vs Choso would be kinda interesting

No what would post awakening gojo vs jogo When I mean post awakening I mean immediately after he got packed by toji and awakened ( basically his infinity isnt automatic,no domain expansion and he really just has hollow purple and reverse course technique)

You had me at Krakatoa

the fact that this was up for debate is crazy. When i saw the title, I thought gojo stomped, however since this video is talking about gojo lacking red, purple, and de, it isnt a fair fight. Of course Jogo has to win at that point. Gojo post awakening however, murder stomps Jogo 0 diff.

The only thing id say about tojis speed is that megumin isnt really a reliable source to measure tojis full speed. With the anime release it was clear that toji even while fighting megumin was REALLY holding back. Example being him standing completely still and letting megumi try to hit him in the warehouse. #2 gege admits in the manga that a healthy naobito would have been able to react to jogos attack. The same naobito that toji could have killed along with the entire zenin clan at ANY TIME. On top of that once maki pulls up on 15 finger sukuna, she arguably performs better than jogo does by actually managing to punch him in the face. So i think its fair to say that theres a lot more concrete evidence that toji would be faster than jogo. But i know tgis vid is a year old so maybe these points have already been considered

In more recent part of the manga we learned that before Gojo mastered domain expansion, he relied on Falling Blossom Emotion technique to minimise damage only to the outer layer of the skin, so teen Gojo would actually have a very high chance to beat Jogo, but he wouldn’t come out unscathed. It is also possible that teen gojo, while being close to death, would awaken, especially if Jogo underestimates Gojo after seemingly defeating him. Also I don’t think Jogo is faster than Toji, there is no evidence for that anywhere in the manga.

I do have a problem with Jogo above Toji in speed. As stated by the narrator, Toji = Maki. In chapter 213 / 214 ( one of the two ), it's seen that Maki is able to keep up with 15F Sukuna in speed while holding back, and even more after unleashing her full speed. 15F Sukuna at this point was only at 10% CT / CE output, not physical abilities or speed ( that would also be inconsistent, as Toji is stated to be stronger / faster than 3F Sukuna, and 10% speed 15F Sukuna is 1.5F Sukuna level, in which case, Maki should be blitzing this Sukuna since Toji = Maki. But this doesn't happen, and it's a lot more likely, and is also stated for Sukuna to be at 10% in CT / CE output. It would also make no sense for Megumi to be able to hinder Sukuna's speed with just his soul. ). Now, Maki is relative / equal to this level of speed, and Jogo is straight up getting blitzed by 15F Sukuna over and over again. This would mean that Jogo is much below Maki, and therefore Toji in speed, and relative / faster than Naobito. Edit: I still believe Jogo wins by the way.

Jogo has been unlucky ngl.. Fighting Sukuna and Gojou. Jogo wins because of his domain. What of post awakening Gojou that doesn't have a domain?? The one that beat Toji

I was wondering why the vote was so sided to Teen Gojo, but I shouldn't have been surprised. Given the choice between logic and favoritism, people don't think twice. By the way, who wins: Baby Gojo or Naoya Zen'in?

*bro is flabbergasted*

I’m just wondering why yogi didn’t go for jogo

Why are some ppl so sure that Sukuna only gains CE when he eats a finger, im actually curious. Im asking this because i just don't see 20 fingers Sukuna getting hurt by Jogos meteor.

Oh oh oh teen gojo I just realized I was about to say 😭

I made a video on this!!! Cool!

I agree with the outcome, but I would not say Jogo is anywhere near Toji in terms of physical stats.

It´s heavly implied that he can use a domain, as he says that he needs to perfect it after the time skip in the flashback, I find it very hard to believe that he got the domain in a random event during the short TS

What if Gojou awakens mid-fight but doesn't YET have his current power, technique, etc? No domain, just the reverse cursed technique, Purple, perhaps some buff.

Jesus the difference between pre and post awakening gojo is night and day

I feel sooo bad for this actually really strong curse when reading the manga

Whats the background music

i think toji is above the disaster curses but unless gojo can kill jogo with blue or like he did with hanami with his infinity pressure i don't see him winning

I feel like it's a little bit unreasonable to not give Gojo simple domain at the very least, and it is mentioned that he DOES learn falling blossom whatever it is as a kid, so he would have that as well. I also think a lot of his strength weaknesses/durability weaknesses can be negated by cursed energy reinforcement, something that wasn't useful against Toji specifically since his katana ignores physical defenses and goes directly for the soul. It's also worth noting that Megumi scaled Toji to 3 fingers Sukuna in terms of speed, in the sense that they were both ridiculously faster than him. It's not REALLY a measurement. If somebody was 100 times faster than you, and another person was 1000 times faster than you, you would say they're rivals in speed from your perspective cause to you, they're both inconceivably fast. In regards to him dismissing the attack in Jogou's Domain as an adult, and whether he could do it as a teen, I have to say that it definitely leans on him being able to. Cursed energy(with exceptions related to emotion) is pretty consistent with a person. And even as a kid, Gojo knew how to lower his cursed energy excess drastically. It's obviously not to the degree he does as an adult: if it were, limitless would be permanent rather than 3 days, but it's still a ridiculous amount. The main change that Gojo underwent in regards to his enlightenment was figuring out reversed cursed technique, and applying the logic from it to his technique, allowing him to unlock half of his tool set that straight up wasn't there. Now, with that in mind, do I think Teen Gojo wins? Probably not? Like you said, he really doesn't have a good way to put Jogou down outside of hitting him with a comical amount of cursed energy (which is something he could *probably* do, but there isn't any feat of him doing so as a teen, and even though his adult punches shouldn't be that much stronger, I'm not going to try and quantify the strength of them since it'd be total guesswork), something he could probably eventually do even with the speed difference given his ability to more or less teleport. But Jogou is durable enough to take multiple hits, so this would require an absurd amount of assumption in terms of combat speed. I just felt like this video made the fight a lot more one sided than it is, almost in retaliation to how one sided in the other direction it is on discussion forums rn.

I would think Gojo has some form of simple domain 🤷‍♀️ Geto has curse spirits with simple domains seems to me Gojo would be aware of this and likely have proper defenses

what about gojos domain even if its incomplete he can still use it to make a hole and leave as how megumi did with dagan ... ?

Jogo just that guy

Why not use Awakened Teen Gojo to make it a more interesting fight? Its still Teen Gojo, he would now wield Red, Purple & RCT but wouldn't have access to DE or 24/7 Infinity. That would've been much more contentious

Now can Jogo take on Yuta? Or really any of the Disaster Curses since outputting positive energy is kinda gg for any cursed spirit.

You do realize Teen Gojo still has simple dimple domain? Jogo's DE wasn't properly acknowledged, yet I find a win-condition where Teen Gojo just survives Jogo's DE due to simple domain. Overall Awakened one would blitz Jogo cuz he outspeed prime Toji who is massively faster than Jogo in terms of speed and blud could just hollow purple him like he did versus Toji Fushiguro.

I’m confused, doesn’t he use both purple and red than later stated by Gojo just a year later he said he needs to refine his domain and teleportation. I assume your saying pre stabbed to death Gojo isn’t capable of red, purple, and domain expansion. Which I’m going to be honest is rather lame. I assumed teen meant his whole backstory arc rather than a portion of it.

Since teen Gojo can’t use domain expansion he automatically loses.

Man this changed a lot tbh especially because we know now that teen Gojo should have fallen blossom

Jogo didn't kill them, cause plot. He didn't not kill them cause he couldn't. Of course maki and them didn't die. They are main characters and he would have just took out like a 4th of the main cast in an instant lmao. So yeah, sometimes characters survive just for the story and it can't be taken as some sort of indication of power.

Honestly this changed tbh cause we know that Teen Gojo has falling emotion now so idk know

“No real difficulty” but the only way he’s winning is by opening his DE.

Jogo durability feats and his durability statements are very confusing as it was said that hanami is far more durable than jogo and if jogo were to be hit by black flashes from yuji and todo normal hits, he would of died instantly

This is entirely true…but there is one thing to consider. Gojo loses no matter what in this situation, any other argument is just cope, but he should have the capability to defend against sure hits. Specifically falling blossom emotion because he’s one of the big three families, or maybe simple domain. It’s not stated when he learns these, but it is shown that he has simple domain, and should be implied that fallen blossom emotion is something he knows. It’s a possibility that he can defend against the sure hits, but he still gets Molly wopped

As the strongest curse, jogoat. Fought the fraud, the strongest sorcerer, jogo began to open his domain. Gojo shrunk back in fear, then jogoat said: "stand proud gojo, you are strong!"

Unrelated but, I doubt yuji will even be top ten by end of series. Sad to say cos He’s my favourite character

Gojo learned simple domain and falling blossom when he was a child is the icing on the cake for this. I never understood how ya'll thought Jogo would even get through infinity. He has no way to wear Gojo down for days before implementing the use of a cursed tool that stops infinity. Jogo gets bodied no dif.

Ur right it’s much further

i’m very happy with the jogo part of the video and your conclusion of the video, jogo is very underrated character so it’s nice to see someone actually give him the credit he deserve. but i will say… 3 finger sukuna is beating teen gojo, toji, and jogo

Broken Ronin let us debate this please. I think you’re severely wrong in many things. I am really sick and tired of seeing your wrong takes. Let’s hop on a zoom or some sort of live stream and debate this. Please take me up on this.