Tekken 8 Spoiler Talk 

Jin: So you wer protecting me this whole time? Devil Jin: How else could you have survived getting shot in the head point blank by your Grandfather? Jin: Fair point.

I never thought of Jin as a “depressed character” but that “I want to live” hit so hard, like kid got shot in the head by his grandpa 20 years ago ofc he’s clinically depressed

The final fight between Jin and Kazuya was incredible. The parts of jin busting out his different movesets from his trainings was absolutely brilliant.

To touch on the dark topic for a moment, your hunch was spot on. TW for anyone reading this. Tekken 6 Jin admits to Lars that he never intended to survive. His goal was to go down with Azazel because being the villain needed to summon it early was a torture he couldn't handle, not when everything he did went against his mother's teachings. In TK7, Miguel's story has him fight Jin and he tells him why he's trying to kill him. Jin replies with just 'Kill me.' Jin very much wants to die. Even the start of TK8 while fighting Kazuya, he openly states that he'll kill him, but then follow him into death soon after to rid the world of the Devil Gene. The reason Jin was such a 'dick' to everyone and ignored people was that he was doing his best to make his inevitable suicide plan as 'painless' as possible for those who would still miss him. He didn't think he was worthy of genuine bonds after all he's done, and it took his mother to tell him that, even now, his life is worth saving. I had chills when Jin yelled to Kazuya at the very end that he still wants to live and make up for everything he's done. Jin's been misunderstood by fans for a very long time. While the plot point could have been handled better, it's still a situation that Jin, a kind person, was the only thing that could kill Azazel, and WW3 apparently NEEDED to happen to summon it early enough in Jin's life that he could kill it and save the world from the literal origin of evil.

so, basically, JIN FINISHED HIS STORY BEFORE CODY DOES!

20:40 I'm quite surprised you didn't catch that Jin has wanted to die since Tekken 4, Thorgi. His main goal was to eliminate the Mishima bloodline in its entirety, including himself. This is why Jun tells Jin that the Kazama style is to protect those important to them. That it's okay to want to live, even though he's longed so much to die; leaving no trace of the Mishimas on the Earth. Jin thought that in order to bring the curse of the Mishimas to an end, he had to die. Which is what made this whole character arc of Jin so worth it in the end.

Tekken 7 Jin: "EVERYTHING HAS BEEN RESOLVED OFFSCREEN." Tekken 8 Jin: Oh shi---

I'm with you on Kaz. His son surpassed him, and released him from the Mishima curse. Kazuya will not be the same man as before. Jin showed him with his fists, that there is another way besides pure brute strength. I see a redemption arc, in Kazuya's future.

Jin has always wanted to end himself. Every game he brings up how he will get rid of the devil gene and then himself. He says to Kazuya “I’ll send you to hell and join you soon after.” The scene with Jun is so powerful because what she is explaining to him is that the Kazama power fosters life. All life is precious, and the hardest lesson for Jin is realizing that this also means *his* life is precious. Jin has spent so long isolating himself. “How many precious things have you let slip through your fingers.” He tried to protect those he cares for by staying away, but all that ends up doing is hurting them. He learns that by taking care of yourself, you are taking care of your loved ones. Claudio says a similar thing (mistranslated in the subtitles as “I treasure” when it’s “you love” lol). He basically says Jin needs to take care of himself for the world and for those whom he loves. By the end of the game Jin literally says “I…I want to live!” And while he says this he thinks of 3 people. He thinks of devil Jin, the part of himself he needed to accept. He thinks of Jun who taught him that not only is it ok to desire life, it is his sacred rite. And he thinks of Xiaoyu, the one he wants to spend his life with. To him being with her is living. What is Jin doing in his last scene in the story? He is with Xiaoyu on a road trip. He is living.

The interesting thing with Angel Jin is that people have theorized for decades now what Angel in Tekken 2 was supposed to be and one prevailing theory was that she was the manifestation of of the Kazama powers, being the counterpart to the devil gene. And now in T8 it seems to be confirmed that this was exactly that. Basically Angel in T2 actually was a relevant character in some way.

"Claudio is the least hyped character in the roster" Uhm, Shaheen is there.

For Reina's Devil gene there's also a fifth option: Hehachi specifically sought out mothers with the devil gene to have kids with (or spliced it into the kids after they were born) to make a strand of it that was loyal to him as weapons to fight Kazuya and Jin.

Trust me. Asuka fans have been complaining about how she has been used in this franchise for years. That Family Tree scene was just another wasted opportunity to add to the pile.

23:24 You're actually not that far off, his main goal was to take out the Mishima's, take out the devil gene, then take out himself. I agree with you're interpretation of the message wholeheartedly

It is no stretch to assume thst Jin has been actively suicidal since at least Tekken 6. He hates the mishima bloodline, he hates the devil gene, but he is also both of those things. He sees himself as the evil he hates in the world and wants to disappear. I think he straight up says that he intended to die killing Azazel in Tekken 6. At several points in this game he says he'll defeat Kazuya even if it kills him and Jun has to straight up tell him that people would miss him if he throws his life away for him to unlock his full power.

To me, it looks more likely Reina is a clone hybrid of Heihachi and Kazumi, in a similar fashion of Steve Fox. That way, Heihachi is her father, in the same way Nina is Steve's mom.

22:58 the quote on screen speaks to your point. Kazuya says a fight is about who’s left standing then Jin says it’s about survival. When I first heard this I thought isn’t that the same thing, but this really puts it into perspective.

Thorgi, regarding Reina having the Devil Gene, you should note that the Hachijou aren't the only group of people who has the Devil Gene. They've established that Azazel, being the progenitor of the Devil Gene, bestowed numerous people with that power. So it's likely possible that Heihachi had sex with a random woman who had the Devil Gene due to a long-distant ancestor.

4:26 Kazuya killed Leo’s mother, not Jin. After the Tekken 5 intro, Kazuya went and killed the people at G Corp who sent the Jacks.

33:00 That's where I think the story is going. T7 was Heihachi focused, T8 was Jin focused, so it only makes sense for T9 to be Kazuya focused.

“I’ll live on, together with my sins.” Jin really didn’t need a villain arc, but damn, the effort they took in making up for the admittedly shitty one we got is honestly admirable. Just hope that later down the line they don’t drop that fact. Post T8 Jin should still deal with the fact that he screwed the world over, but should actively make up for it.

Claudio being the closest Tekken has ever gotten to a JoJo character and then going out just like a JoJo character was so cool. Was definitely disappointed that Jun didn't have a bigger role but it seems like they're setting her up to be more important in the next chapter

This game story mode is great. For such an over the top story, the writing is decent-great and the narrative flows good enough that you don't lose the plot. The references are amazing, and the music is probably my favourite thing from this story mode. Scene 1, already the music making a reference to one of the Tekken 6 intros, exclusive music like Jin vs Reina round 2, and new remixes from old themes. It's probably the first time I desire to have the story soundtrack for a fighting game. As for the future, I would really love if Namco goes deeper with the alternative endings. I think a Tekken 9 where you play as Reina and depending of the choices you make, you get different endings could really benefit from it since it's a character we don't know much about. Jin's story is basically over and we could see from the sidelines how's he living, and Kazuya probably with his redemption arc that could end with a sacrifice. Though if they want to do again Angel vs Devil, Asuka is right there, Tomboy vs Tomboy seems like a good fit.

The way they used Hwoarang, Xiaoyu, Lars, Devil Jin and Jun to really push the character of Jin forward is nothing but fantastic.

For the reason Reina has the Devil Gene, here's my headcannon: There was an intro cutscene in Tekken 4 for Heihachi's story that said he did an experiment in creating a new lifeform which would have a mix of Heihachi'd and Ogre's DNA, done in order so that Heihachi could learn how to use it to control the Devil Gene. It was said the experiment was a failure. I think that failed experiment lifeform was Reina. Once she was born Heihachi probably still taught her the style and hoped it could maybe awaken later, as well as have someone carry on his legacy. I think that Reina's devil form isn't actually simply the Devil Gene, but actually somethint like Ogre's True Form, still monstrous and supernatural but different. Again, that's just headcannon.

The reason why Zafina and Claudio survived it prolly cause Zafina never was in actual danger (only Xiaoyu shows mild concern and that concern isn't nearly big enough to be about her dying), while Claudio like verbatim says that he wasn't planning to sacrifice himself which implies that he had a safe way out Jun is most likely alive due to everything from Harada's words to everything in-game. And tbh mad agree withvyour take and kaz. He has his own character arc to go through since everything he believes in is pretty much Hei's ideology and Kaz can't really believe in it wholeheartedly I see Devil Reina as a way to bring in return of Devil Jin and Hachijou (clan of Kazumi). It's possible that Hei somehow managed to hook up with another Hachijou (be it purposefully or not) which isn't impossible since Hei is a pathological liar and pretty much entirety of his T7 interview is most likely him making shit up to appear as a hero to press. Or maybe she's a result of experiments and ngl your idea of her being a lab made Kaz daughter also makes a lot of sense 38:40

30:14 Not only is it implied that Zafina lives but on the right side of the picture you could see Claudio’s legs implying he lived as well. He did say he had no intention to sacrifice himself. I thought about the possibility of Kazuya being Reina’s true father too while playing through story mode. I could also see that she is a clone of Heihachi infused with the power of the devil gene.

The thing about Reina is you have to pay attention to the little details in the series like how the Mishimba Zaibatsu were experimenting on kids like Steve Fox trying to give them the devil gene. Heihachi Mishima began his own research into the terrifying power of the Devil Gene. In an attempt to to replicate this superhuman strength, the Mishima Zaibatsu started a genetic modification plan with the goal of replicating the effects of the gene on regular humans through the creation of a synthetic Devil Gene. Heihachi used eggs from the assassin Nina Williams, who was cryogenically frozen by Dr. Bosconovitch at the Zaibatsu at the time, to create babies that he used to conduct these experiments. Most of the children died as a result of the experiments and the supersoldier program was ultimately considered a failure. Reina is obviously a successful supersoldier experiment from his DNA spliced with the devil gene even though the program was originally considered a failure he must have succeeded later on using his DNA. Reina has the synthetic devil gene because Jin destroyed Azazel and his power in Kazuya and got rid of their devil gene passed down from the Hachijo and Mishima bloodlines.

I agree, best FG story we've had. From the implementation of an actual tournament bracket in the story, Tekken force coming back, focused story with fitting fights, Lars-Heihachi flashback (like you 1st time I liked him), Claudio final arrow, surprise Azazel fight, Jin's development of embracing his allies, his past with Devil Jin protecting him, and his own life that actually feels like a continuation from T4 to the finale from Angel vs Devil to Jin vs Kazuya incorporating different styles was amazing. My main issues was how much they hyped up Jun coming back only to not give us the interactions we were hoping since her fate ain't even really confirmed until the end. Almost feels like she could be T9 instead. And the biggest one, I love the juxtaposition from Jin's arc in T6 where he tried to get the power to kill Azazel and thus the devil gene, and thus save the world in a twisted way in solitude, which he failed on all 3 hurdles and put the world into more chaos than ever before. To then T8 where after embracing is allies, his past, and value of his own life to actually destroy Azazel, end the Devil Gene, and beat Kazuya saving the world. Felt like a perfect bookend for his story... Only for Reina to have the devil gene still, felt like they finally broke away from it, even with her being Heihachi's daughter instead of Kasumi but I guess he got with another member of the clan or cloned in some fashion to have the devil gene or she's an experiment. Either way, like how the ending hints Claudio & Zafina may be alive, I wish they stood their ground instead of these fake-out st the very end/end-credits.

I'm betting that Reina is a Kaz clone, in the same vein as X 23 is to Wolverine. That would explain both how she has the Devil Gene and still be Heihachi's daughter.

Great points overall, especially regarding Asuka. I liked the story, but her part was really disappointing. I didn´t expect her to go full Angel and tag team with Jin, but at least give her more than five throwaway lines in the whole story. She is supposed to be Jin´s family from his mother´s side and the inheritor of Kazama style (you know, the "power that fosters life, and cleanses evil"), and the only living relative Jin knows that isn´t trying to kill him. Now, for the first time she canonically meets Jin and even sits in the same plane, enroute to their sacred family landmark, but doesn´t exchange a single word with Mr "I want to live because of my cherished friends and bonds." Her relevance really starts and ends with Tekken 5, and since Tekken 6 we were forced to watch this same boring comedy shtick with Lili for the past 17 years.

I mean, while Azucena's reason for siding with Kazuya is flimsy, I think that's kinda the point. Her reasoning IS flimsy. Her official description did mention that she has a sinister side to her. She's literally described as a mad scientist who experimented on coffee to create the "perfect brew" lol. She's also a shrewd businesswoman at heart. Even her job as an MMA fighter is merely a means to promote her coffee brand for her, nothing more.

Just want to say, the credits showing characters after the game ending (at least, the “good” version) implies that both Zafina and Claudio survived.

Both lar and lee step up for jin big time best uncles in the series

So many insane moments and great fanservice parts. Getting put into a surprise Tekken force mode and seeing Jin go full Kazama style were incredible

I definitely agree with how Asuka got largely ignored lore-wise. Tekken really missed that big opportunity to really flesh out Jin and his Kazama side even more besides his mother, I mean at least give Asuka a moment with Jin, even as simple as a sparring match in which he is reminded of how his mother taught him, I could go on and on but I digress. Awesome video as always.

"My mother taught me that power isn't everything" Then uses Jun's countattack move to deflect Kazuya, then after that he takes her stance. That's a GREAT story moment.

If Reina is a genetic clone of Kazuya, she could technically claim to be the "daughter" of Heihachi that way too.

As an Asuka main, Tekken Team's vendetta for her hurts my soul 😔

Jin goes inside himself and confronts the evil power that wants take over him. He finds out that the devil is actually a good guy and gets it to cooperate with him. This grants him control over the evil power and is now able to use the devil form. During the fight with the big bad guy his power is not enough. His dead mother gives him a power boost and a new even stronger form to beat the big bad. So basically it’s Naruto without the fillers

You were totally right on Jin's depression and interpreting his statement as denying his "self-ending" feelings. Jin's goal throughout the entirety of Tekken 6 was to awaken Azazel with the idea in mind that killing the source of the Devil Gene would kill him. Jin will constantly remind people that he's ready to die in Tekken 8, with the statements decreasing in alarmingness as the story goes on (I'll send you to hell, and join you soon after. | I'll kill Kazuya even if it kills me | I'll protect my friends, even if it takes my life) but never losing that sense of a death wish. UNTIL he meets his mother again, and asks her "Mother, do I have the right to desire life?" To which she responds "Your own life is well worth protecting. Don't you forget it." Only then does Jin say "if it means living with my friends, I'll never stop getting back up!". Only then does Jin cry out "I WANT TO LIVE!" when confronting Kazuya. TLDR: Jin is the best fighting game protagonist.

Did anyone notice that in the final fight between Jin and Devil Jin where you have to break Jin's chains that Jun is watching you way in the background?

21:54 Jin actually does say in his conversation with Lars near the end of T6's story that he plans on killing Azazel and himself in the process to get rid of the Devil Gene, and in the beginning of T8, he tells Kazuya quite literally that he's taking him to hell with him. So yeah, it's not just theoretical; Jin was actively trying to kill himself while facing his family and the Devil Gene because he believed that was the only way he could save the world from the existence of a Devil.

Dude this story made me switch from not knowing who to main to being a Leroy main, so fuckin badass

Kazuya's character ending is a rare moment

22:36 I personally think that his sacrifice would've been at defeating Azazel, because he basically goes down with him on the story mode for tekken 6, his whole motivation was probably to do an heroic sacrifice, even tho he got an second chance at life in tekken 7 and onwards

Jin’s uncles stepped up this game(and that saying something lol)

Asuka got done too dirty, she should have been the one to fight Jin considering she Jins mothers fighting style

dude Lars was so cool in this story mode like he's legitimately one of if not my favourite tekken character now

I don’t even like to play fighting games but your channel is awesome. I love all the passion you have and all the energy you put into your videos. Almost makes me want to play.

The tekken videos are soooo entertaining!😊

14:17 Actually he did weaken Bison. Before he died, Nash was able to siphon some of his Psycho Power from Bison in order for Ryu to finish the job.

That whole thing about Reina probably being Kazuya's kid does work, like what's Reina's nickname they gave her in her trailer? Purple Lightning. What type of color is usually associated with Kazuya? Purple, mainly his suit and his LIGHTNING at certain points.

I'll never not be mad about Asuka. It's all there to make her a main character, but they keep putting her with the stalker. They didn't just drop the ball with Asuka they damn well imploded it. As for the comment about Kazuya, I'd like to see him redeemed, and in regards to the Devil Gene. How do we know Heihachi doesn't have it? he trained himself to Batman levels, making it VERY hard to kill him. What if that just made it harder for the gene to activate? what if the end of Tekken 7 pushed it far enough? so many questions!

the story of this game is amazing, but my one disappointment really is Asuka, she ABSOLUTELY should've been deffending Jin in Yakushima alongside Xiaoyu, if not to deffend Jin, then to deffend the Kazama Legacy which is what her character is all about, and she ABSOLUTELY should've fought Jin at some point in the story, perhaps right before he gets in the Tree, perhaps fighting another family member who knows the Kazama Style as well as his mother could spark those memories and draw him into his trance that would lead him into confronting Devil Jin, that would do so much for her story, and I don't believe Asuka didn't know about Jun, running the Kazama dojo is her FAMILY business, did no one ever tell her she had an aunt who used to be an amazing master at the Kazama style until an ancient fighting God killed her? Asuka and Jun even have a really cool unique tag throw in Tekken Tag 2 that is both of them using the Kazama style to just throw the opponent around, I find it unbeliavable that someone as dedicated to her dojo and her fighting style just wouldn't know about her, and with that said, Asuka and Jun should've had a special intro of sorts, or at least some sort of unique dialogue, you can unlock Asuka's kimono for Jun as a customization option, it would've been cool to see them interacting in some way, Asuka deserves better than being Lili's sidekick and Feng Wei's punchbag

when Jin's Tekken 3 soundtrack hit, I almost cried. Then Kaminano hit, I cried a lot! Epic final fight!

The greatest thing about the Leroy and Jin fight is that it was a nod to the Tekken Bloodline anime where both of them fought and I love it!

Claudio might not actually be dead. Because he literally says before getting blasted that he doesn't intend to sacrifice himself. Which would be a good moment to call back to if they wanna bring him back. And then there's also the fact that plenty of normal characters survive kazuya's beams let alone a person who's a direct counter to devil powers. I wouldn't mind bringing him back honestly. Never really played him but always thought he was one of the cooler designed characters. I know people wouldn't like that it will devalue his sacrificial moment. but I honestly don't really care. it's a good moment for the time but 7 years down the line in tekken 9 land. I personally would have moved way past it and would be down to see Claudio again just for sake of it

Like you said, T8 is probably the best fighting game story. It’s a love letter to Tekken fans with all the musical callbacks, it’s well paced out, and maybe it’s the shonen brainrot but damn it hits me emotionally. I love this series so much

They always like making there protagonists people who have evil within them. They did the same with Soulcaliber and Nightmare / Sigfried and now Jin and Kazuma

I agree with what you said about Asuka’s involvement in the story mode. And on top of that, in my personal opinion, my only critique of the story mode, and then possibly the greatest fumble of the story mode… was Jun’s inclusion. Like I was so excited about this game, one of the main reasons was focus on Jin’s family. Because all of the other games were always about the Mishimas, but this game was gonna focus on the family dynamic between Jin, Jun, and Kazuya. Like this was a golden opportunity for more expiration on the Kazama bloodline, and Jun and Kazuya’s history. And with Jun coming back and being a playable character, it could open the door for so many things. And all we get is two flashbacks of her, and a scene with her motivating Jin in his head, and that’s it?! Like talk about dropping the ball, she doesn’t interact with Kazuya, she doesn’t even interact with Asuka, and she doesn’t even show up in the final battle between Jin and Kazuya. This could’ve been a perfect opportunity to have all three of them on screen together, and there’s nothing. Sure she shows up over Kazuya’s unconscious body, BUT THAT’S NOT ENOUGH! You know her arcade ending? That’s what the final battle should’ve at least look like, not them being friendly, and being a happy family, but at least a powerful and impactful scene with all three of them together. Jun’s return and her inclusion in the story mode was one of this games main selling points, and after seeing what they gave us with her, I feel ripped off. In Sub-Zero’s words: such wasted potential. And don’t get me started on that little cut scene which I’m pretty sure is a retcon. But like I said, that’s my only critique of the story mode everything else was awesome.

I want nightmare heihachi as a dlc fighter

Btw, Claudio and Zafina arent dead. Look at the images during the credits.

I'm wasn't very optimistic about the eventual sequel, I thought the Kazuya-Jin finale would be hard to top and I didn't find Reina as a main villain appealing. My only hope was another Tekken 2-3 style leap with a new generation of fighters. But your last Reina theory with the Skywalker-style twist but dialed up really turned me around. Cheers!

The final battle where the music plays was easily one of the most hype moments ever for me, and I really want the song on my mp3 player. I'm also disappointed with Asuka, and I think this game was the final straw with her for me. Like I can potentially see her doing stuff with Reina, but she's very much a Lili sidekick at this point despite being stronger, so I'm not getting my hopes up. BlazBlue will always have my heart for favorite fighting game, but Tekken is a very close second after this game.

35:38 I think the Devil Gene is tied to Azazel's chosen people (the Mishimas) and can be passed between them. Tekken 8 implies that being killed by a Mishima is the pre-requisite for getting the power to manifest but only if it's needed/desired. Heihachi never got it cuz he was the strongest man in the world then he came to despise the power because of Kazumi. Reina, on the other hand, wants the power and also has that Heihachi unfuckwittableness EDIT: I think Tekken 8 will get another story mode to get through the Reina stuff in +-3 years (so after 2 seasons of DLC characters)

Also, look up at the meaning of the name "Jin". That adds up to the story theme

Jin did battle with his inner demons and achieved synthesis with them. Some serious Persona stuff there.

this was an amazing review! loved it like i did the story mode!

Great video, and on that last bit about "how did Reina get the Devil Gene" with Option 4 being the most likely option: Yeah, Tekken 8’s future DLC/Tekken 9's DEFINITELY gonna need Maury Povich in there. In a franchise that has had Negan from The Walking Dead show up.

All I got is that Reina was absorbing parts of the devil gene to make either a mock version of it. While it wasn't shown too much against Jin, she was taking on a lot of those blasts and saying things like "it wasn't enough yet," until that big blast at the battlefield. I like to think that she was just gathering it up anyways

Im loving the tekken videos!!!

The secret ending you unlock for Jun I interpreted that the tree healed her after her fight with Ogre. I think she's still alive

I wasn't as blown away as I thought I would tbh. the visuals and major fights were awesome. but the story itself is paper thin let's be real. - reina being the mysterious side character until the final reveal was probably the best part of the whole story. now who is her mom >.> imma be honest, for the entire time I thought she was a clone/experiment with heihachi (and probably kazuya or kazumi) dna. - I am annoyed that we never saw jin meet jun IRL. I felt like that was the one thing the entire thing was leading up to (ever since tekken 3!) and in the end I was left disappointed ngl... - I would've liked to see some conclusions for minor characters. some loose ends they could've tied up: what is asuka's actual family situation? king appears but where are armor king and marduk?? miguel??? he would've been a perfect fit for a smaller role in this story! raven is back but where is master raven? where the hell is anna williams??? - on a very personal note, claudio was a good fit for the sacrifice character. wasn't so popular that he'll be missed, had a great sendoff. HOWEVER the same can't be said about zafina. I hope she isn't dead and will return in the next games. her moveset was so cool

Man I really love the story here all the characters sometimes have important moments and Jin wrap his story for good it was amazing start to end

Not only Leroy Smith's voice actor played jet from cowboy Bebop he also played DJ in the Street fighter 2 animated movie so anytime you play him you got a blast cuz I like that

the zafina pic also implirs claudio survived as well, and like sure dog you earned it

Your not actually wrong. Jin has literally said long before Tekken 8 that he would end the devil gene and himself as well which he considered tainted as a Mishima. This isn't new info from this game. He planned to take himself out along with azazel from the beginning hoping that would end the family curse too. That's why in Tekken 7 when he faced Miguel in Miguel's ending he kept saying he wanted to die and would not resist Miguel wanting to kill him for the death of his sister. He's spent 25 years hating himself and everything to do with his family that he ran away from people who cared about him like xiaoyu to protect her when he was merely running away from life itself. And yes jun was never dead . Harada said she was alive even before tag 2 came out like 12 years ago

I get the feeling we are going to get a part 2 of the story later down the line. It just feels like there is too much groundwork set to wait until the next game.

i kind of liked Claudio bc he reminded me of Ishida in bleach and he had a stone mask like dio in t7, he definitely felt a lot more significant in this game though which was nice

Your take on Reina is brilliant and plausible! I don't play Tekken, but I really like the story... I'm curious to see whether you're right or not...

My biggest disappointment from this game is Asuka and Jun's role. Asuka was relegated to Lili's sidekick. She helps with Jin's war on Kazuya but that's it. Then Jun appears at the end all you see is her legs and you unlock a side story that explains how she's alive. No Jun showing Asuka how to use Kazama powers or explaining how they're related or some big Jin Jun Asuka trio battle. No Asuka getting revenge on Feng they literally were on the same battlefield you could've done something there. They barely gave anything to Asuka x lili shippers. Even some Asuka Jin bonding. Just nothing. Also you are not alone thorgi i want more for Asuka's family connection. They don't even have special intros

i really liked this story mode😁 i also loved world tour in sf6 fighting games really have stepped up their single player recently

“Not Asuka” is so funny. They hardly even acknowledge that Asuka and Jin are related in the story

Also to note on Jun being alive. Correct me if I'm wrong, they never directly showed her dead body did they? They more or less stated she got killed by Ogre. Which leads me to believe more so on the thought she's been alive all this time.

Jun never died, Harada already confirmed this before, the head you see Ogre lift up in Tekken 3's opening is King 1's head, not Jun's, which people thought it was before Harada debunked it.

My theory about Reina is that she's possessed by a demon or evil spirit like Jinpachi. The evil spirit could be Heihachi, a demon claiming to be Heihachi, or a demon Reina made a deal with to get the power she needs for revenge.

What if Asuka is going to be the one to face Reina in the next Tekken? Since Jin doesn’t have the Devil Gene or the Kazama’s cleansing powers (at least I think), what if Asuka had to unlock hers in order for Reina to be defeated?

About Reina's parents, I actually think that she's Heihachi daughter. Everyone hangs into what is the canon now, but back then in Tekken 5 not only is implied that Jinpachi's power is Devil Gene (something that was retconned later) but also that Heihachi had Lars just as a way to know if he had the Devil Gene. Tekken's storyline keeps getting retconned all the time, I don't think it would really matter at all if it was possible for Mishima's having Devil Genes and it could lay dormant, so no matter what the person did the Gene wouldn't wake even if the host was exposed to live threating situations, but it could still be passed to it's offspring. Also, for future games, I actually would love if they decide to go all the Power Instinct/Gōketsuji Ichizoku/Groove on Fight/Matrimeele way and the next game be about the heir to the Mishima Zaibatsu. Harada trolled when he said that Heihachi had like, 18 sons across the globe, but think for a moment: in the next Tekken you could add something like 5 new characters, all of them connected to Heihachi in a way, and we already have many characters that can already claim the control of the zaibatsu: Lee's Heihachi adopted son, Lars is actually his son, Jin is his grandson, if Kazuya isn't dead he also could join the fight, Reina already is there, Kuma as his pet could also join as a comedic take on this family fighting over heritage thing... well, for me, if it works on Matrimeele, it could work here. A tournament where the winner takes the CEO chair of the Mishima Zaibatsu. For me that's a good way to keep Tekkens story going on.

23:36 I CAN! Nightmare and Seigfried! Two Characters, two Sides of the Same Coin! And Both were basically the Proto Jin, except Ya’know. Soul Edge Being Evil as Hell!

Another posibility is that Reina actuali is Heihachi's kid, but her mother is someone else with the devil gene that isn't Kazuya. This is backed up by the scene with the archiologist researching the devil gene in the caves, which shows a cave painting af Azazel giving the devil gene to two seperate individuals. it can be assumed that one of these individuals is an ancestor of Kazumi with the other one forming a seperate bloodline that possesses the devil gene. Given that Lars is one of Heihachi's many illigitimate children with other women besides Kazuya, its possible Reina's mother also had the devil gene like Kazumi weather Heihachi intended this or knew about it is unclear, but highly unlikely given Lars was sired partly for Heihachi to determine if Kazuyas evil was because of him or the devil genne Kazuya got from his mother. Its's thus unlikely he would seek out another woman with the devil gene intentionally, but still possible it could have happened. Also, if this theory of two swpwerate bloodlines with ties to Azazel is true, said families could have maintaine ties over the generations, with Reina's mother seducing Hehachi much like Kazumi did in the hopes that reina would be powerful enough to defeat Heihachi. given we know very little of either Reina or Kazumi's history, we can only speculate at this point

I think the big thing for Jun was that she was always labeled "Missing in Action", so it was never confirmed she died. Then again, Leo used to be labeled a female before so who knows.

I think what would really be satisfying once Tekken 9 does come out, is definitely have Jun and Kazuya go on the journey to understand himself and try to gain his humanity back. I also desperately need Asuka and Jin interacting, like come on everyone needs to see that finally come to some fruition. Also what you said on Reina and Kazuya's confrontation, I think it'll definitely come down to Jin and Kazuya working together to stop reina, but have him also tell Jin along the lines of staying alive and protecting his mother. Giving the hint that he will finish off reina himself, to not kill her. I honestly want to see that happen and how hard in the paint T9 will do. This was a very nice spoiler video Throgi, so thank you so much for this.

Yeah that'll be my headcanon for the next 7 years: Reina being a test tube baby and Kazuya becoming the MC again to redeem himself in tekken 9 that's just so good to pass up

I don't think Zafina is dead. Also, Asuka and Jin knows they're relatives but it's soooo distant it didn't matter. Jun is the sole survivor of the main Kazama family branch according to Lili which she researched cuz, at this point, she's obsessed with Asuka....

24:00 SAINT SEIYA MENTIONED LET'S GOOOO Also, i've been doing my own "Build The Roster (and entire move lists)" for a Saint Seiya fighting game made by ArcSys I've been a fan of Saint Seiya since I was little, so I'm glad to know that you know about the existence of this old anime. Comment not related to Tekken, but I noticed it and felt I had to say it

I love your Reina theory.

i loved the story, but damn, did they really do my main asuka dirty

The developers did a good job with the story from what I understand. Still could have been better, but they still managed to properly complete Jin's character arc.

32:36 I like how this became a mini edition of Let's Make a Sequel in the middle of Spoiler Talk.