Tekken X Street Fighter - Build the Roster 

So you´re telling me that for 2 years I avoided this "Build the roster" videos because I taught that they were no edit no script podcast-like videos but they are actually very well edited and written videos with cool and interesting ideas that make sense and are also entertaining as actual fan wishlists?!

The best way to describe the difference between Fei Long and Marshall Law is that Marshall Law is like a character Bruce Lee would play whereas Fei Long is just Bruce Lee.

Zangief being rival to King makes even more sense when Zangief wants to be an inspiration for all Russia, whilst King wants to give children a better life by raising money. Both have motives to the betterment of some community. Boom

Honestly? I can see them making Akira a member of the Kazama family and her being like "How come I've never heard of cousin Jin?" And her brother being like "We don't talk about that side of the family for a reason."

Paul and Dan is a perfect match up for a rivalry, cause not only both a comic relief fighters with bad luck but this give us a bizzaro version of Ryu vs Ken.

I was a little worried you’d put Rufus on the roster when we got to Bob and that’s how I said “Oh thank God, it’s Luke” for the first time

One of my favorite/interesting examples of Japan taking voice actors deaths very seriously is Persona 5 See, the voice actor of Igor had past away part way through the development of the game, but because Igor is a very important character not only for that specific game but also the franchise, they couldn’t just get rid of him So, they made an imposter Igor being the one you see for most of the game, but around the end point you would meet the real Igor once again. I just think that so cool to put that there

I love how you got thru the entire Akira / Leo bit without acknowledging that the two have the exact same fighting style.

1:20:40 actually Poison became a _very first time_ playable in a game called *Final Fight Revenge*

Suggestion: since Julia is not just an influencer but an influencer fighting for the environment, would G make a good rival for her? Since he also strives for attention and was on one of Rashid’s streams, and his whole thing is fighting for the Earth

I don't know if this idea might be out of your wheelhouse, but I'd absolutely love to see a Build the Roster video for a hypothetical Cartoon Network Vs Nickelodeon platform fighter. Both networks have had a platform fighter to their name in both Punch Time Explosion and All-Star Brawl respectively. The former was commended for its amount of content but criticised for having poor gameplay, while the latter was commended for its good gameplay but criticised for its lack of content. Both games are on opposite ends of the spectrum, and could easily benefit from merging the positives from one with the other. Plus, there's a ton of underrated Nicktoons and CN originals that didn't make it in either entry that I feel would work great as fighters.

I would love to see a mashup between Miguel and Cody, since they're both actual street fighters in their respective franchises

as a brazilian there other aspect of the Eddie and Laura rivalry: he fights capoeira and she a variant of Brazilian jiu jitsu. Both styles kinda represent "the brazilian martial art", so makes sense to fight to see who win

Dan as Paul's rival was an inspired choice 🤌

18:15 I don't know how you didn't mention both Leo and Akira use Bajiquan for their martial arts. That would be an interesting point of comparison and rivalry.

I love the idea of Ken beating up Hwoarang and then telling him to go home and be a family man

Yeah, i would have been the one to point out Heihachi's seiyuu dying for sure. However, let me point out this is actually the second time Heihachi has been recast because his previous voice actor passes away, so there is a history of it happening before as well.

I love how Thorgi just admitted the fact that he's reached perfection with Rashid's intro so he's just done it again

First 5 characters be like: Its the guy from netflix its the guy from fortnite Its the guy from smash bros Its the guy from capcom fighting evolution Its the guy from playstation all stars

Imagine Lars vs Cody. Both have heroic personalities with strong senses of justice. The difference being Lars is more super hero type justice, and Cody is more into crime related justice.

What can I say? This was a topic where you couldn't do worse than Capcom had done for real. Also, congrats on making it to two full years, Thorgi! This has been amazing every step of the way. I hope that at some point you take a stab at the "forgotten" crossover that Arc System wanted to do: "Guilty Gear X Darkstalkers".

I would love a Build A Roster video for a theoretical Disney fighting game.

Nearly perfect, the only change I’d make is adding a single guest character from both company like the other game did. If they wanted to go the classic arcade route they did for Street Fighter X Tekken, I’d say Arthur and Dig Dug, but if they wanted to stick with fighting games, I’d say Morrigan and Nightmare.

Rashid pair with julia aged phenominally, he's a streamer in sf6

I'm glad you put Fei Long in the game. He was sorely missed in SF5. I'm someone who loves Bruce Lee homages and Jeet Kune do fighters in fighting games. Marshall Law vs Fei long is a dream match for me that SFXT did not fulfill.

Honestly if Seth did make it in, I feel like they could do what you said with missed Tekken characters, I feel like it would also be more hilarious if they referenced other Namco related fighting games like Soul Calibur and such. Heck because they own the rights to a lot of anime fighters, Seth could still have his JoJo references, maybe even take it up a notch with a few more, but mixed few a new nods to other Shonen Jump anime such as Naruto, Bleach... And yes, Dragon Ball Z. I don't know what to say, this would be freaking hilarious and I want Seth in the game for this reason alone.

I'm glad to see this series back again, it certainly was a long time. However if I could add two guest characters (one from Bandai Namco and one from Capcom) I would go with Wargreymon (Digimon) and Mega Man.EXE (Mega Man Battle Network) I went with this rivalry because they come from some form of cyberspace but also these two are no strangers to fighting games (multiple Digimon fighting games and Onimusha Blade Warriors respectively) plus with Digimon Survive on the horizon and Mega Man Battle Network being promoted in mobile games and merchandise; I say these two are the perfect guest. With Wargreymon's different skills from the various Digimon and EXE's battle chips you can create amazing movesets for them.

SFxT actually had Lei and Chun-Li know each other in the Vita trailers. It was one of the cooler things the game did with its story.

Discovered this channel recently, it's a gold mine

Okay, crazy idea: “Capcom vs. Capcom” What do I mean by that? I’m glad you asked. The whole gimmick of the game is that each character has a rival…but all the rivals are mixed and matched. No two rivals are from the same franchise. So instead, we’d have rivalries like… Asura vs. Akuma Zero vs. Strider Hiryu Juri vs. Morrigan Leon Kennedy vs. Frank West Bionic Commando vs. Cpt. Commando I could keep going, but I want to hear more people’s suggestions.

The crossover like half of the people forgot was meant to happen, but still a worthy one to celebrate 2 years of the show. Also pls let Ryu be in the game.

I love your work! I cant wait to see the third part of the KOF retrospective! And has a submit of this serie, would be cool to see BBTAG 2!

Regarding Heihachi, we only know about his new English voice actor. We don’t know about his Japanese voice.

It's been a long wait, but I'm glad to see this series back.

Now this is a build the roster episode I've been waiting for

Love your videos Thorgi, this was another great one! I was kind of expecting Lee vs Vega, Anna Williams vs Poison, Kunimitsu vs Ibuki and Dragunov vs Guile, but I totally get that there are so many to chose from. My only other changes: I think Makoto could be a good rival for Xiaoyu. And although it probably would never happen - instead of Jaycee, they could build on Michelle's tag 2 ending and have her enter in the wrestling get up - a new take on a throwback character for long term fans and an interesting rival dynamic of a slightly older woman who is fierce fighter but new to wrestling vs R.Mika, a young breakout wrestling star.

I unironically want Ingrid in the game, maybe even as a secret character. Like, she was supposed to debut in a modest 3D crossover fighter and somehow ended up as a GODLIKE CHARACTER THAT CANONICALLY MADE THE PANDORA BOXES, WHICH PROMPTLY STARTED THE EVENTS OF STREET FIGHTER X TEKKEN. How could you not add her?!

Actually about the Akira Thing. ...they even have the same spelling of Japanese Character/Kanji for Kazama. Yeah its both 風間 for Jin and Akira

Although I do disagree with some of the choices, I thought this was a great video. And for some future BTR I would like to see: - An updated MVC4 roster. With 2 years having gone by, Marvel has been releasing a TON of new content that is bringing in new fans like Shang-Chi, Moon Knight, and Falcon, along with Capcom with RE8 and upcoming SF6. Maybe not a video, but perhaps just an image of your updated picks with some characters being cuts. - Super Robot Wars: This is gonna be some HEAVY work with how many shows and movies you’ll have to watch, but a fighting game that puts Gundam, Evangelion, Macross, Gunbuster, etc, would be hella fun to see. - SoulsBorne Giant Boss Fight Arena: A Godzilla arena like fighting game but uses giant monsters from Dark Souls, Bloodborne, Elden Ring, Demon Souls, and Sekiro, would be interesting to see.

Man this would be awesome. I really hope people from Namco and Capcom see this and start taking notes

This was a really good, intriguing video. The character roster alone I'm sure was a tough part to bring together. Really love this series man. And congrats on the two-year anniversary of this series. I said this on Triple KO's Street Fighter x Tekken episode, where if Capcom and Namco decide to get together and remake that game; here's what they should do: -Have the option to play 1v1, or 2v2 (the latter remans as part of arcade mode/character team story mode) -NO GEMS! -Include chip damage (I don't know if the 2013 patch included this) -When cross arts are performed, freeze the timer until the cross art is complete -No on disc DLC -Leave out pandora mode, unless it's a boss challenge mode -Leave out that Guilty Gear Isuka style mode where all 4 players are in the game -Include more language options -Better character endings -More customization options; not just colors -More music (include old classics and remixes of character themes) I also made my own character roster for this remake (it was TOUGH). 19 For the base roster, 12 for DLC, and 4 special guests for both sides: Street Fighter: (Base roster) Ryu & Ken, Chun Li & Cammy, Balrog & Vega, M. Bison & F.A.N.G, R. Mika & Zangief, Sakura & Karin, Dee Jay & Elena, Blanka & Dan, Birdie & Rufus. (Boss) Gill. (DLC) Sagat & T. Hawk, E. Honda & Hakan, C. Viper & Juri, Rose & Menat, Guy & Maki, Poison & Rashid. (Special guests) Mega Man (the real one), Soki, Morrigan, & Frank West. Tekken: (Base roster) Kazuya & Anna, Xiaoyu & Arisa, Paul & Marshall Law, Jin & Nina, Jaycee & Steve, Asuka & Lili, Chloe & Christie. Alex & Roger, King (II) & Marduk. (Boss) Unknown. (DLC) Fakumram & Michelle, Ganryu & Bruce, Heihachi & Kuma, Zafina & Eliza, Yoshimitsu & M. Raven, Tiger & Bob. (Special guests) Pac Man (without the Mokujin mech), Taki, Ivy, & Gon.

1. Jin rival is Ryu 2. Kazuya rival is Akuma 3. Heihachi rival is Gouken 4. Paul rival is Guile or Ken 5. Dragunov rival is Rolento 6. Marduk rival is Hugo 7. Marshall Law rival is Fei Long 8. Ganryu rival is E. Honda 9. Yoshimitsu rival is Sodom 10. Bryan Fury rival is Q? 11. Feng Wei rival is Oro 12. Steve rival is Luke 13. Raven rival is C. Viper 14. Hwoarang rival is Juri 15. Nina rival is Cammy 16. Anna rival is Chun-Li 17. Asuka rival is Sakura 18. Lili rival is Karin 19. Zafina rival is Rose 20. Christy Monteiro rival is Elena or Laura 21. Kunimitsu rival is Ibuki 22. Angel rival is Ingrid

When one of your favorite Tekken characters also happens to be Thorgi's I'm so happy I'm not the only one who appreciates Bob so much 😂

18:46 Well, considering his previous actor Daisuke Gori (3-6, Jimbe (One Piece), Hercule Satan (Dragon Ball, whom Ishizuka also took over), and Shabranigdo (Slayers) passed away, it wouldn't be suprising that they would replace Ishizuka, ironically Heihachi's previous actors Banjo Ginga (1, Souther (Fist of the North Star), Liquid Snake, Major Zero, and Liquid Ocelot (Metal Gear), Thanos (MCU), and Issac Netero's 2nd voice (Hunter x Hunter) and Wataru Takagi (2, Okayasu Nijimura (Jojo), Kaiman (Dorohedoro), and Joker (Batman Ninja) are still alive.

interesting thing about Jin and Ryu is that the original SFxT Trailers implied Jin and Ryu actually knew each other like how they do in Namco X Capcom and Project X Zone

A very solid list. Just one minor suggestion: I'd like to add one character to balance out Jinpachi's place as the base roster's sole final boss: Ingrid, the original character featured in "Capcom Fighting Evolution" after her initial game was cancelled, as well as the creator of the Pandora Box from "Street Fighter X Tekken" (according to the tie-in comic for that game). Those annoyed by the Pandora system now has a name and face to direct their ire and what few fans she has from CFE and/or SFA3 now have another chance to play this anomaly of a character once more.

A couple of months ago I actually made a roster for this game so I am excited to see how ours compare

I can not believe I was literally thinking "Seth's gotta be next" for like a whole hour. It was well worth the wait though, you love to see the king stealing King's moves.

The amount of work that goes into these, it’s absolutely insane I don’t even know how you got me to watch this video! I knew about 10 of the characters in this video but you’re humor and just the amount of work gets me hooked every time, these videos are wonderful!

At the beginning, I made a list of essential characters that HAD to be on the roster. By the end of the second DLC wave, the only ones you missed were Lars and Dhalsim. Really think they need to be here. But other than that, pretty solid roster. So glad Jinpachi is present.

Imagine he makes a big build the roster with capcom, snk, Bandai namco and arc systems characters

Not gonna lie, i would love to see Poison and Anna team/match up. Something about their personalities makes them a perfect fit, but i can't pick my finger on it...

Bit surprised you didn't include a Jack; probably would have made him Guile's rival due to the hair.

Yeah, this was going to happen at some point. Hope it ain't like what happened to Street Fighter X Tekken; That game was a shitshow at launch.

I'd like to see a Mortal Kombat/King Of Fighters build the roster video where you have to split the MK fighters into teams of three

Man, this is a fun one. I remember during the pre-release of SF X Tekken I was mostly against the obvious like “Oh E Honda vs Ganryu” and tried to think beyond that. Like Paul vs Zangief. Russian Muscle Power vs the self proclaimed Toughest in the Universe. Like Zangief would scoff at this claim, and Paul, ever the hot head, says that the only thing that’s ever beaten him was a bear. Zangief laughs at this as he wrestles bears as part of his training regiment. Paul rushes in to prove his toughness. Regardless of who wins, they earn each other’s respect. Much like your pitch for Ken vs Hworang, I always saw Sagar try and talk the young Korean hothead out of his obsession in his rivalry. SF x Tekken also missed out on team ups by limiting them to their series. A team-up of Chun Li and Lei, she sees him as a goofball only to see just how seriously he really does take his job. Rufus vs Bob? Boring! Rufus vs Paul, however, him going “Ken Masters! You think growing a beard and getting a stupid haircut’s gonna fool me!?”

I love your videos! The time and effort you put in them is so amazing. When I see a new video I get so excited like it’s a new movie coming out

Congrats on two years, always enjoyed seeing the creative roster ideas and the level of detail you put into coming up with reasons they'd be great choices. For DLC characters ideas: - Josie Rizal and Dee Jay, wanted to give Josie some love and had difficulties picking a rival, but picked Dee Jay since he's also a kickboxer but also thinking of the interactions, like Dee Jay seeing potential in her and give her more confidence. - Roger Jr. and Mike Haggar, wanted to give Final Fight some rep (well a little more rep) and also have a wild choice, so chose Mike since he hasn't appeared as a playable character in Street Fighter proper, so like Poison, he returns to the ring although his moves will be tweaked to deviate from Zangief's moves, while Roger Jr fights how he does normally. The story can be simple, Roger wanting a match against Haggar to see if he's still got it. - Eliza and Menat, another out there cause cause it basically is, I can see these two having some hilarious interactions like Menat sensing her as a potential threat in the future, but gets annoyed at Eliza's narcolepsy. - Ivy and Morrigan, did wonder if they did feature guest character like SFxT, I would pick characters that I felt worked better in this setting, was not easy but went with these two as they are both purple clad fighters from Europe and also seeing these two interact would be fun with their clashing personalities. Plus imagining Ivy wonder how Yoshimitsu is here and Morrigan wanting to fight Eliza since she reminds her of someone she knows. For Roster suggestions: - A Smash Bros with Microsoft characters (maybe call it X-Brawlers or something) - A Danganronpa fighting game (though for a challenge, maybe come up with an in story explanation for why characters that should be dead are around and figure out their finishers/executions) - A Godzilla fighting game similar to the Atari trilogy (Destroy all Monsters Melee, Save The Earth and Unleashed) - A Transformers Fighting game with various characters from many timelines and universe - A Marvel vs DC crossover (if the NetherRealms's Marvel game rumor is anything to go by, could also be an idea if the rumor goes nowhere ) - A Resident Evil Fighting game for Halloween perhaps? Could be neat seeing the iconic characters and monsters get some ideas - an Avatar fighting game (with a challenge of having the Last Airbender cast interacting with the Legend of Korra cast through a story) - Legend of Zelda Fighter, the series has a lot of characters to choose from. - A Disney Smash Bros, with Nick and CN having done one (the latter could have a sequel roster idea but then again there is that WB game I nearly forgot about), they'd be the next step as they have a variety of well known and obscure movies/shows to choose from - A Sailor Moon Fighterz game, you’d think a well known series like this would have a lot of games but it’s only had a few and only the heroes were playable. I think if Arcsys did make this, they can add some more characters like some villains to spice up the game idea

You know what's sad? Necalli and Ogre would be a decent matchup there lore wise, could do some things there. The only problem is that interest in Necalli, is uh, not there.

I don't know why I have this feeling that if Tekken X Street Fighter happened, Bandai Namco might make it canon to Tekken. That would be crazy. Now you just need to make a "Build The Roster" for Tekken X Virtua Fighter! Now that's a crossover that's been long overdue. Maybe Tekken X The King of Fighters too.....

Something I thought of that could be fun: You can pull characters from any fighting game not from a pre-established franchise, but only one character per country

The beginning of this pairing makes sense and then things go wayyyy off the rails once Leroy starts. Lots of weird choices but the tekken side is solid

Outstanding video bro thank you for creating this amazing show. Keep being a man of gold. Also here are some honorable mentions: Lida vs Nash. And Lars vs Ed.

2 YEARS!!?!? Jeez man, time is just moving. Your channel is absolutely amazing... Keep up the great work my dude!

Been watching this channel since the MvC4 video and I’ve been enjoying your fighting game retrospectives. Keep up the good work. I would love to see your take on a SEGA vs Capcom fantasy roster

Congrats on the 2 year anniversary!! Keep moving forward!

Congratz for your 2 years ! I discovered your channel for the Guilty Gear VS Blazeblue build your roster and now it's a classic for me (I still dreaming about this game) ! I really like your content so I wish you the best for 2 years and more and keep make us dreaming about fighting game roster ! I hope you will do something like this for Project L. It will be cool to compare what you suggest and what they finally planned for this game

Congratulations on your second anniversary. This BTR video was a blast. As for a future one, what about a Capcom-helmed Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars? A mix between the original and the recent one. Perhaps have a rival system so that we have a hero vs villain set up. Bring in the classics and the new faces. Hell, find a way to throw in the likes of Howard the Duck and Squirrel Girl.

congratulations on your 2 year anniversary thorgi and love your build the roster/videos about capcom & fighting games in general and you did a great roster. :3 my picks for a dlc team would be anna williams/poison(love to see them interact.),hugo/jack & elena/christie.

This was really innovative and interesting choices. Well done.

You should do a MK vs Killer Instinct BTR, i know you'll make it great

Personally I like Ryu and Kazuya and Ken and Paul to be rivals because in a lot of ways, Kazuya and Paul are like the Bizarro versions of Ryu and Ken. Ryu is a calm and disciplined student of martial arts who constantly fights to keep his dark powers in check while Kazuya is a power hungry madman who relishes his evil powers. Ken was once a fierce rival to Ryu but grew up and became a father and family man as well as rich and well respected whereas Paul who started out as a fierce rival for Kazuya that is now a down on his luck loser who picks fights with bears of all things.

I appreciated the info about heihachi, I had no idea and it was super interesting a lot more interesting that just being like "yeah, its heihachi, let's move on"

Happy Anniversary on Build the Roster!!!

So happy I found this channel, stellar work my dude, stellar af.

It's all been worth it, started watching this last year with MVC4 and been hyped up for these since

I still get literal goosebumps and chills up my spine when I hear "Heihachi Mishima is dead"

I'd love to see your choices for an MK vs SF roster.

Message to Thorgi! I've been craving BTR every month. I never watch videos over an hour that aren't movies, and these have me addicted. Keep them coming!

Excellent roster list! I like how you took some chances with some, and made others super obvious. Keep up the good work I would totally buy this game BTW

Another banger of a video. Thank you for the amazing content, good sir.

I would LOVE for zafina, menat and rose to team up in some way using their powers to fight evil. thatll be just PERFECT!

Christ, I can't believe it's already been a year since the CVS3 video. Time flies when you're having fun I guess. Anyway, love your vids man. Keep 'em up!

You did an excellent job of explaining things. I know nothing of Tekken but the way you described it made a lot of the matchups make sense Also, I was waiting the whole video for the Kuma/Blanka pairing. It's so perfect, I'm surprised it wasn't in the first DLC pack

Definitely an awesome video and great ideas and matchups! Literally the only one I wanted to see included would be my SFV main E. Honda, but then that would mean including Ganryu, so I...uh...think you made all the right choices 😂😂😭😭(Though shoutouts to all the Ganryu mains - fun character, just...personality-wise...well...)

Ling Xiaoyu should have been in the base roster, shes literally like the Sakura of Tekken (no not Asuka) I would want Marduk there for a different flavor of grappler (Mount Stance is unique), His rival would prolly be Hugo

Great one man! Cool Choices! Still Hyped for KOF Retrospective Part 3! Happy Anniversary! Cheers to more Years man!

The effort you put into your videos is actually insane

I'm just gonna say it, Devil Jin and Evil Ryu should have been in the main roster. I get ending the DLC off on a high note, but these two are EQUALLY as important to the story as their normal counterparts. We got screwed out of getting either in Street Fighter x Tekken in the first place, and while I'm glad to have seen these two at all, it feels like a disservice to leave them as DLC. After all, we've yet to see in any of these games on either end where there's an actual story moment of them transforming. It kinda writes itself here.

Finally some Tekken x Street Fighter content in the community! We appreciate you Thorgi! My kind of video. I'm actually working on a video to showcase how the Street Fighters would play in Tekken based off of how Akuma was implemented so this motivates me to finish it up 🔥

Very fun video to try and guess which character would be the rival to each Tekken character. Best Build your Roster video you’ve made so far, I think.

Holy crap what a great video, the idea for rivals was just perfectly made, i LOVE it, even the ones mentioned at the end were perfect, i mean Dragunov and Guile??? Perfect, Lee and Vega???? AMAZING!!!

Absolutely amazing work. I love these videos. One roster I hope you build someday would be "Shonen Jump vs. Capcom". Matchups like Goku vs. Ryu, Naruto vs. Strider, Ichigo vs. Dante, Monkey D. Luffy vs. Edward Falcon etc. I'd say 26 characters on each side since MvC2 and UMvC3 had rosters around that size.

Another amazing BTR video but after watching it, a pretty cool idea popped into my head that would be great if this game became a real thing; ALTERNATE COSTUMES. They don't have to be DLC but say if you complete Ryu's Arcade Mode then you unlock his more modern look from Street Fighter V with the ripped gi top and the beard. If you beat Hwoarang's arcade mode then you can unlock the classic Karate Outfit from Tekken 3. Heck, just imagine Dan Hibiki with cardboard wings stapled to his back trying to copy Devil Jin. There are endless possibilities of alternate costumes that could be in the game 🤪

Awesome vid Thorgi well done. Man I hope we get this game soon as it has so much potential sigh one can only hope and we need our Law vs Feilong dream match damn it!! Looll

I was waiting for all of these matchups 1:27:07 . Great video!

There is one thing I want to point out about the voice actor thing: Daisuke Gori was actually the voice of Heihachi from 3-6, but died before 7. So Unsho Ishizuka was brought in, but sadly also died after 7. You could say we're back to square one since I guess he was only recast because of story purposes, I'm just pointing it out since the way Japan handles it is very interesting.

While there are some exemptions that some fans may feel the need to point out, I found these selections both fair and exciting. I absolutely loved this, so much so that I’m still holding onto hope that this game will actually be produced. 🙏🏽

Im so glad you included Eddy Gordo in this game and also laura, i live in brazil myself and when someone who doesn't know what's Tekken asks you what it is you can just say "That game that has Eddy Gordo in it" and they will get it

Hey Thorgi great video as always. Your Build the Roster videos are honestly some of the best gaming videos on RU-vid tbh, especially with the voice XD. I was think about if you should do a Build the Roster for X-Men x Street Fighter, using some of the newer x-men plus a more diverse SF cast. I honestly think especially since the X-men were cut from MvC Infinity they should get another game to show them some love.