Temple Bar Boat Launch Is Closed - Lake Mead

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Historic Lake Mead Low water Levels have affected Temple Bar Boat Launch The Marina and campground are still open and access to the water is still available for fishing. Boat Launch is closed due to the mega-drought affecting the entire southwest
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@rvertv Год назад

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@bobberguy1 Год назад

Thanks for the view. Water, food and shelter for survival. No water, no survival.

@Goomba_N64 Год назад

This lake is done. The water levels just keep on dropping faster and faster.

@stephenbrown3763 Год назад

Hey Russ!!! You know "I TOLD YOU" to "BRING THE WATER"!!! Be Safe,,,

@henrywardell4635 Год назад

Happy Trails , United States America , RVerTV Fans. Russ Too Cool 4 School. We Love RVerTV - BEST TV ON RU-vid.

@lloydbaker6988 Год назад

Hey, Hey, It's Our RVerTV Russ, Thanks For Keeping Us Up To Date On Lake Mead.👍

@rvertv Год назад

You bet working my way north soon too

@williamd4707 Год назад

Amazing how fast the desert starts reclaiming itself after the watter goes down. Great video and description. We always camped at the waters edge back in the 60's and launched our boat on a gravel ramp. They started filling the lake in 1935 and it took 6 years to fill to capacity.

@YouTubeDeletesComments Год назад

Hahaha, you act /say that like it's "reclaiming itself" on its own, and that they're not doing something to make it exponentially drop!

@bobwoods1302 Год назад

@@RU-vidDeletesComments We are doing something. Burning fossil fuels. Pretty much everything is going as predicted sadly. btw Do you even know what exponentially means? 😂🤣😅

@RogueStatusX Год назад

"reclaiming itself" is a weird way to put it, what do you expect it to do, turn into concrete instead?

@1960ARC Год назад

@@RU-vidDeletesComments you hit the nail on the head, it's a shame so many people are asleep. They are the same people that bought you the scamdemic, worldwide lockdowns to cause shortages and now destroying farms! People are going to suffer big time in your area if this continues. Which is more important, space exploration that gives nothing to humanity, or human life, life in general? Cut NASA's budget and build a reverse osmosis system and a pipeline to feed lake mead. It would only take 2 or 3 years of their budget! Prince did a song about this, what was it called? Sign of the times?

@tommurphy4307 Год назад

@@Christina...66 YOU guys should plant some cannabis around that lake- right about the time they get the lake cleaned up it should be harvest time.

@joelowen5661 Год назад

My brother is a mechanic there at Temple Bar Marina. Thx for showing me. We’re visiting this summer and now we know what to expect

@PattisArtInnaVan Год назад

How sad to see these lakes disappearing. Thank you for showing this Russ!

@tommurphy4307 Год назад

WHERE have you seen a lake 'disappear'? name just one....

@PattisArtInnaVan Год назад

@@tommurphy4307 sorry Tom I was on my phone and it tends to do it's own thing. I have NOT seen another lake disappear but it's incredibly sad to see this one doing so

@robertkendall1037 Год назад

the water is actually up about 4 feet in the last 4-5 weeks. all it would take would a few el Niños in the pacific for a few years and it will fill back up. Definitely not done yet

@PattisArtInnaVan Год назад

@@robertkendall1037 that's good to know! Thank you Robert!

@bobshroyer6792 Год назад

I now live just South of Temple Bar and your video saved me the time to travel up to Temple Bar. Thanks.

@ZeldaRosenthal Год назад

Moooo! You are so kind to do this and I am grateful. We sold a house in AZ 2 years ago and live in PA. Good timing! Blessings to you. Keep safe.❤️

@tommurphy4307 Год назад

you traded scottsdale for NEW CASTLE????

@shiftintohigh5564 Год назад

Russ, where does it stop? Drain it? Whats at the bottom? Whats the agenda? Great review, sir👍👍😎🇺🇸

@shellyrusek8035 Год назад

OMG..........That looks SO sad. It is just incredible how low it is.

@grantmarchant3228 Год назад

HI from New Zealand, great video and very interesting. So sad to see these lakes in this state but very beautiful country. I wish we could send you some of our rain.

@tommurphy4307 Год назад

i'd like a huntaway pup, thanks much.

@williamd4707 Год назад

Went here often way back in the middle 60's. Great bass fishing. The road then was hard scrabble poorly maintained for 28 miles. Back then was very remote and always had the place for ourselves. Even in the summertime the water was extremely, very cold. Great camping and fishing and thanks for this video it is a real trip back in time.

@tommurphy4307 Год назад

hell, yeah it was great. my buddy is a teamster delivering food around metro and he would bring broken boxes of mcribs and we would chum with those mcribs... wow the stripers were lovin it!!

@davec9244 Год назад

Once what was, is no longer the Mighty Colorado River Thank you Russ ALL stay safe!

@kayejc Год назад

Thanks for sharing Rusty. It gets sadder with each stop but we appreciate what you're doing.

@SPak-rt2gb Год назад

With Lake Mead running dry generator sales must be going up and so will the prices. Thanks for the trip and Safe Travels.

@petermorhead4160 Год назад

...solar array sales must be going up... Fixed it for you.

@user-bd5md5cm2j Год назад

Nobody thinks it's a real problem. The government will fix it.

@tjtrent2351 Год назад

@@petermorhead4160 Other than solar has been getting neutered by the states and feds a bit more every year. Sooner than later, you watch, they will start charging us for sunlight in several forms of tax.

@tommurphy4307 Год назад

you should have a generator at your house anyhow. everybody here in east san diego county has one- our power company sometimes shuts down the electricity in santa ana wind conditions. fire prevention is KEY going forward... you should also know that nevada power does NOT depend on hydropower from lake mead to provide their customers with electricity.

@jesscarey7666 Год назад

Howdy Russ 👍

@Lithrone1 Год назад

Man, you are living the life I would like to live in retirement. Thanks for the great vids.!!!

@stevepurtle7406 Год назад

from home in Bullhead, recently took a roundtrip up to Lake Mead to see the water dropping, as we drove back home and past Temple Bar turn off, was super curious, but just too far off the road to go see. So this was very interesting and really appreciate seeing the before and after in Temple Bar too. Excellent video! Thanks!

@GrandmaBev64 Год назад

My Goodness! I've been going to Lake Mead, my whole life and I've never seen anything like this before. I don't know if you can even imagine, how Massive Lake Mead, used to be. It was Breathtaking. It's just Sad now. Thank You for showing us.

@harveywallbanger2899 Год назад

It was never a good idea the evaporation of water was probably more then was being used. You don’t make lakes in the desert 🐪 🏜 🌵 I’m sure that’s why they are draining it now because they will have more water less evaporating. It’s not Sad it’s reality, oh wait reality can be sad 😢

@richardduke9788 Год назад

Yes , but the golf course in Las Vegas is green ! ! !

@GrandmaBev64 Год назад

@@richardduke9788 I noticed that. Crazy! The water attractions too. They just contracted out there more water based attractions!

@TheFunkybert Год назад

You are surprised?? It’s been foretold for many years.. Have you not listened?

@cheridolph2523 Год назад

This was predicted years ago people were not listening obviously

@y0ureviltwinnn Год назад

I used to make propane deliveries out here coming from Vegas back in 2018. Those homes to the left when you get into the park were for employees. Crazy how far the water had receded since 2018.

@richardl.7390 Год назад

Excellent, truly excellent video ! Such a nice place to camp, despite the fact it must be HOT. I tried to stay the night in Death Valley, California in July 2019. It was still 120 degrees F at midnight and I had to go to higher elevation to "survive", I ended up in the Walmart parking lot in Parhump, Nevada where it was only 95 degrees ... LOL ! Thank you, Russ. RICHARD

@notmyfault6835 Год назад

Great memories houseboating out of Callville Bay... up past Temple Bar to a secluded cove. Wouldn't see another soul the entire time we camped. Good times. Thanks for sharing your journeys with us 🙏❤ 🇺🇸

@valeriejashi4231 Год назад

Yes it’s history. Thank you for filming this.

@robertmarino2158 Год назад

Visited Temple Bar back in the 80's , fishing , boat rides , had a great time with friends on their 25 ' Well Craft, great time ! Memories ! Boulder Dam was amazing !!

@rickg882 Год назад

It would be be an excellent time to make ramp upgrades, cleanup area while water levels are low, just waiting for levels return.

@lindsayzipprich2647 Год назад

We will probably all be dead before it ever is filled again.

@desertrose9499 Год назад

I never see any of this on the news. Do they have a plan? Scary. How sad. Thanks Russ. Stay out there!!! Thanks for the adventures, history and updates on the lake. Never thought this would happen. 😪

@easyb622 Год назад

There is nothing you could do in the situation because for one this is a man made lake in the middle of the desert….two Scientist 40 years ago said this was going to happen.

@Chris-ml8hs Год назад

Sure there's a plan when it's beyond fixing oh well you people should have conserved water ... Please , it's the government.

@vm321 Год назад

Geo engineering. “ the dimming “ look it up!

@Resounded Год назад

Over Development in the desert ! Man's Greed ! There was never suppose to be a Metropolitian City in the Desert !

@bobwoods1302 Год назад

@@easyb622 You're obviously ignorant of the situation.

@dorisbuchmann4164 Год назад

What a shame! Thanks for your tour and report, appreciated very much.

@carolsmith5531 Год назад

I enjoy your videos especially the ones about Lake Mead. I visited from NC in 2015. It makes me so sad to see the changes that have taken place since then.

@sharonchavira6645 Год назад

Great video showing how much the lake is down. So very sad.

@kittyjob4230 Год назад

quicksand mud yep, same with the Great Salt Lake sand be careful

@lyndaphillips3520 Год назад

We love the campground at Temple Bar. Sad about the lake, but earlier this year took our Kayaks out on the lake. It was fun as always,

@Magajarhead1775 Год назад

Love your videos! Like hanging out with an old friend. Thanks for sharing!

@rvertv Год назад

Glad you like them! Thank You !!

@Pabz2030 Год назад

According to the official figures the lake surface is VERTICALLY 44ft lower today than 24 months ago. Considering the very shallow gradient of the launch area (call it 5 degrees) that would make the waters edge about 500ft further out than 24 months ago. Which is what is looks like.

@xoxo2008oxox Год назад

Phew, been almost a week since a video and thought you might have drove into Lake Mead! Wow, thank you for sharing this sombering view of the marina!

@garymorris5974 Год назад

Happy Trails Russ

@randysmith8524 Год назад

I remember 1976. At the mead. One Great 😃 summer. And one thingy different. Cell phones. Thin and now.

@ritamoore8346 Год назад

Heart breaking. Also very scary as to what is coming next.

@tommurphy4307 Год назад

youre going to move to new castle????

@throwaway8401 Год назад

omg i have seen many on vids on lake mead. this one is up there with the best one needs to listen to your words

@milehighkit4725 Год назад

That's crazy, It's getting bad really fast! You would think those cows are getting pretty thirsty. Thanks for the update Russ.

@1hasbeen531 Год назад

Ranchers haul water to tanks where cattle can water. Game & Fish also maintains some tanks for wildlife.

@jjano2320 Год назад

I've always wondered what they eat out there. Scrub brush?

@jakebrakebill Год назад

You sure are saving me money on gas. Going to all the places I'm interested in. Thanks

@ZeldaRosenthal Год назад

Funny!🤣

@johnpatterson4272 Год назад

Great video and well narrated. Your personal perception of the condition of Temple Bar and Lake Mead is very astute. I have enjoyed your logic as to the key indicators which show the dropping water levels. You are a better investigator than you realize.

@robertjean659 Год назад

Don’t see this lake coming back Russ. But who knows. 🇦🇺🇦🇺

@getchasome6230 Год назад

I'm so sad I never got to see the lake.

@tommurphy4307 Год назад

there are plenty of pictures of it- especially the full pool photos from 83. enjoy!

@oldladysusie3009 Год назад

Thanks so much for the video and all of them. I went to Temple bar several times in the 80's. It's sad. Looking forward to your next adventure!

@wildwestunlimited Год назад

So I know they've already found one dead body in a barrel but I wonder how MANY have sunk under the silt of the bottom of the lake over time. That silt is now the desert floor, no longer the lake floor. I wonder if that's one of the reason why they say you cannot metal detect. They should allow metal detecting like for ONE month. I wonder how much "stuff" would be uncovered. I'd LOVE to be out there with my detector and shovel!!!

@VegasElement Год назад

They've found 2 bodies. They attributed drowning to the second body, but no DNA testing.

@wildwestunlimited Год назад

@@VegasElement Thanks! Ya, I was aware of one body, but two... Wow, and I bet there are more.... unfortunately. My only logic is, where there is BIG money, there is BIG mob. They can be extremely rough!!

@volvo09 Год назад

There is a safety concern too, which I don't normally bring up on things.... If it's dry then I don't disagree, but some of these fresh spots you break through the crust and find yourself stuck fast. Sinking into the equivalent of 8ft of jelly. But at the same time exploring is allowed, so yeah, why no metal detecting...

@tommurphy4307 Год назад

i'm thinking your last sentence is why the rangers don't allow metal-detecting in the lakebed. and your reference to the shovel....

@charleshicks3492 Год назад

It’s too bad that the people in charge , are in charge/ liked the jaywalkers you encountered on the way to the marina 😎😎😎👍👍👌👌👌

@LLC273 Год назад

Really nice campground. Thanks for showing us.

@jaddison1112 2 месяца назад

I was at Temple Bar Marina in August 1995. Came in on a ski boat from an eastern section of the Lake in Arizona. Oh my Lord, this is very sad to see. I don't even recognize it as the same place. Happy memories are all that's left for the forseeable future. I wonder what it is like after two years of fair rain in the southwest/Utah and Colorado, and heavy rain California. ? Sad ....

@jackkridler5714 Год назад

i don't know about you but I'm spoiled as i don't want to live where there is no AC when it's 110+ like back in the day.

@lauraslanesvanlifetravels Год назад

I live in Phoenix, this scares me A LOT! There's no way in HELL I can live here anymore if we don't have power but I don't have anywhere to go on my own or the funds...I swear, we are being hit from every angle in this country...I think shit is about to hit the fan!

@ChristianityRecap Год назад

@@lauraslanesvanlifetravels you are right. I hope you all have food storage.

@cassiusdio6048 Год назад

Every problem that we have in this country is either caused by the government or is being ignored by the government, if private companies can build pipelines to ship oil or national gas then our government sure as hell can build them for water. There is a solution here either temporary or permanent, why is nobody doing anything? Why do they want this country on it’s knees?

@dcraexon134 Год назад

It’s over 100 outside but this energy efficient swamp cooler keeps it in the mid to low 70s I’m here don’t know why people need air conditioner units that use thousands of watts , If you pack the screens in properly they work a lot better don’t buy those squares that are pre-cut they don’t allow you to pack it into the corners

@AdakStillStands Год назад

Raised in the Pacific Northwest, summertime can't come and go fast enough. Rain brings life.

@pamwolfson40 Год назад

In 1983 we lauch In 1983 we launched our boat between the store and ice machine. They put sand bag walls in front of the store, ice machine and hotel. The water was at the top of the ice machine!

@Christina...66 Год назад

Hi Russ...Amazing...😱 The water is do crystal clear...hiw beautiful. Thanks for taking us on another tour...love your videos!!

@FREEHAND.WETGRINDER Год назад

I just got back from temple bar aug 13th, 22 the dirt ramp is working well. its slightly moved next to the dock. on site they can help rigs that get stuck but I had zero problems.

@yawndave Год назад

Russ, I gather you're planning on documenting the drying up of Lake Mead...going around the lake to the landings and marinas? Sort of depressing way to spend a few weeks but a worthwhile project I suppose. I'm hoping you decide to head further north later in the summer so we can see some less arid scenery! Take care and stay cool!

@laurietrefethen643 Год назад

Thank you for taking us along. Looking forward to the next adventure. Take care and be safe Russ.

@dalekundtz760 Год назад

Thanks Russ for the update on this area of Lake Mead. I am amazed at how much lower the lake is now versus 2020. Wonder how its current level is compared to before the dam was built back when it was just the river? That would be an interesting comparison picture. Thanks for letting us ride along with you on your adventures. Stay safe and stay healthy my friend!

@tommurphy4307 Год назад

its amazing what some people consider 'interesting'. just suffice with this- theres a hell of a lot more water there than there was in the 20's- and NO MORE FLOODING.

@Starboatbuilder Год назад

Hi It is certainly a changing landscape. Probably not for a very long will fill up

@truckerwayne Год назад

After the rains now in Nevada this past week in August 2022 Lake Mead is rising fast!

@doubleu2 Год назад

01:12 I've only been on HW93 once, 20 years ago next month as a matter of fact, and that day I was in the passenger seat looking out the window towards the northeast imagining "what all was out there." I've really enjoyed the exploration of the area south of Lake Mead the last several weeks. Obviously sad about the situation, but fascinating nonetheless!

@bradl7499 Год назад

I've been watching what's been going on with Lake Mead through these videos. So sad.. Amazing. Thank You for this video. It's like one of those train wrecks you cant stop watching.

@HardRockMaster7577 Год назад

Pretty Blue skies like you don't get in the big city!!

@niuog Год назад

It’s sad to see so many Lake Mead videos, not about the water, but lack of. Thank you for documenting it

@tommurphy4307 Год назад

i guess they keep telling you to feel 'sad'??

@MLStanleyK Год назад

I was in a couple bands that did NYE gigs in the little bar/restaurant in '99 & 2000, along with a couple outside 4th of July ones too. Also camped there in late March with a couple pals around the same time. The people were great and we were treated like royalty!!! Sad to see what's happened. People 'in the know' have been warning about this drought and the lake for years!!

@tommurphy4307 Год назад

well now you know the lake is kaput for awhile and you can find some other way to pollute our environment.

@evelynwinchester4726 Год назад

Hi, I am thoroughly enjoying your VIDEOS. Extremely historic, albeit sad history. I haven't been to Vegas in years. I wonder if the big hotels have stopped the big water fountain displays. Yes, I know it's reclaimed water that they use, but still. It sends the wrong message. We should have been conserving better these last few years. Thank you for your pleasant personality and stopping at the story boards. It adds to your trip nicely.

@laurabarbato3204 Год назад

Thank you so much for this! Been looking for a vid on Temple Bar for months.

@guskingdom467 Год назад

Thanks for taking us along to "check it out"!!!! Safe travels to all.

@bb1040 Год назад

I used to do practice landings with my Cessna 150 at the Temple Bar ais strip, you have to land up hill and take off down hill.

@tommurphy4307 Год назад

general aviation is dying

@robinengland5799 Год назад

Sad to see the water so low! Thanks for the video!

@tommurphy4307 Год назад

robin- be happy there's no flooding!

@willaimhiggins5428 Год назад

I have read many places that this is a twenty-year drought. What steps were taken 15 years ago to start addressing this problem. i.e. temp freeze on building, adding golf courses, hold on expanding farmland?. We always wait till it is a crisis before we take action. Too little, too late.

@tommurphy4307 Год назад

lots of steps here in california...but you have to look around and do some homework. all our golf courses (CA) use reclaimed water for their major irrigation. sorry you can't just stop the economy because you want to get off or because you don't think its going to rain soon.

@arkansastraveler7698 Год назад

Stayed there for Thanksgiving many years ago. All they had was the motel back then. The boat ramp was next to the motel.

@charlesyell6318 Год назад

I remember the video 2 years ago.

@sircampbell1249 Год назад

Hope the 2 million in Vegas got good exit plan ones it all dry up..

@Resounded Год назад

I do !! I am out of here next week.... Forever !!!! Everybody better wake up !!!! Las Vegas is going to be a Ghost town !

@bryanammeter4450 Год назад

Only allowed on Lake Mead now are 24 foot shallow bottom boats !

@lucyfoster8624 Год назад

Unbelievable. Thanks for taking the time to show what is happening to the water levels. I still enjoy the history and the changing scenery.

@007stuntman3 Год назад

Thank you for sharing this video, although it's very sad to see...

@maverick4080 Год назад

It's sad to see lake mead going dry, any lake. It'll be deadpool status really soon according to climatologists at the rate it's dropping. Be safe, we enjoy your videos Rus. Thanks for sharing your videos to.✌🇺🇸

@lauriescholes5690 Год назад

It's already at "inactive pool" if you check out their website. Still producing energy, just not able to provide its peak needs

@tommurphy4307 Год назад

well the climatologists are fools who never saw a bill for a complete rebuilding of a huge hydroelectric plant.... the rate at which the water levels have been dropping has been affected by a situation at glen canyon dam- did those brilliant climatologists tell you about that? no- cuz they don't get grant money for doing any kind of homework....

@zerofox7347 Год назад

When they built the hoover dam the certainly would never have believed they would purposely stop the in supply and carry letting water out!

@txm3 Год назад

Just wanted to say that I have been watching your videos and love them. I was able to travel to Las Vegas for the first time and took a bus tour to the west end of the Grand Canyon. I was fascinated with the scenery of the dessert and mountains and just the area. Your videos show where we went on the bus tour and it just reminds me of my trip. So, thank you for posting these videos. Brings back great memories.

@vrm86gt Год назад

wife and I just got back from Havasu City, went down to Parker, Parker dam, went out to Topock and Oatman, all cool spots just super hot in July!

@robertlyman9789 Год назад

All maybe ghost towns soon

@lindaheckert8495 Год назад

It breaks my Heart!!

@juliebradford2999 Год назад

Looking forward for boat ride! Thanks .

@rossmeldrum3346 Год назад

I was visiting the dam in April of 1983 and there was so much excess water, it was going over the spillway on the east side at an alarming rate. Thousands of gallons per minute down the tunnel and out the other side in a raging torrent. Now look at this incredible reversal. Too bad they could not or did not save that water then.

@shannonsampson3267 Год назад

I was born in April of 1993. I spent most of my life in Arizona, but the first time I went to Hoover Dam was 2003. It was quite full even then. It's shocking to see how quickly it is changing. I always wished I could see the water flowing over like you're describing.

@tommurphy4307 Год назад

DID you ever stop to think that maybe they were COMMITTED to the release of water to conform with EPA regulations?? maybe they were being responsible for the well-being of the riverbed downstream as law requires. you people never look at the big picture before commenting.. when you were there the dam had EXCEEDED full pool- where the hell would they have put the water?? once a dam reaches full pool- it ceases to be available for flood control- we were lucky there were no floods in '83...

@jerryslater5173 Год назад

Thank you

@Bobby8451 Год назад

I could never get used to deserts like this. There's nothing out there and it's hotter than I don't what. I gotta have some greenery. Lol

@kevinp2820 Год назад

Hello Russ, Thanks for taking us back into the Temple Bar Marina. So sad to see the water levels. Still, as you said, this is a beautiful place. Man that drone video across the desert landscape was awesome. Yay! a boat trip coming our way, can't wait, see ya soon!

@tommurphy4307 Год назад

don't hold your breath- theyre gonna close the lake and scour it out soon.

@larryjohnson6398 Год назад

Wow that's 😣 hope it comes back. Be safe

@christopheryoung2874 Год назад

CA is gonna take some pain, but Vegas and Arizona are done!!

@Nettsinthewoods Год назад

Thank you for that very interesting trip. I really felt I was in the car with you, funny entertaining and sad too

@dannyspl Год назад

Went to Temple Bar August of 2021 not a good month too hot and the fishing was so-so but would like to go back in the fall of this year and try some more fishing

@kurtporter1323 Год назад

Good information Russ. Thanks ♥️

@davidknutson0616 Год назад

I plan on driving out to the Las Vegas and Phoenix area in a few weeks. Thanks for all the great videos , now I can plan on seeing places you've posted.

@rosethompson5511 Год назад

Looking forward to your boat ride journey

@beckyyoung725 Год назад

Another great adventure Russ! Thank you!😀

@beverlyroberts1139 Год назад

😢😢😢. Grew up on this lake and every marina. Tragic!

@tommurphy4307 Год назад

..that you had to grow up there?

@williamnielsen3947 Год назад

so glad yo are monitoring lake

@RG-hf4et Год назад

Great sharp video, Russ. Sad to see what is happening.

@kimberlyshalaby1134 Год назад

Hello Russ! That was a huge difference between before & after, & in 2 years time. Have a good week. Stay cool! Enjoyed video, just hard to see Lake Meade like this.

@tommurphy4307 Год назад

thanks kimberlye

@gerrylopez5743 Год назад

Next time try to stand in the same position to see the peaks and valleys so we can reference the level of the water. There are landmarks that don’t change.