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The controversy erupted following the publication of a statement by the Justice and Peace Commission of the Holy Land. It expressed its indignation at the use of the concept of “just war” relating to the conflict betwen Israel and Gaza.
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Комментарии : 97   
@gunshotlagoon922
@gunshotlagoon922 3 дня назад
I stand with the Catholic community in Gaza.
@Blancheisacutie
@Blancheisacutie 3 дня назад
The inhumane conditions that Gaza citizens have been placed in are anything but just. May God help all the innocent involved.
@mountainstream8351
@mountainstream8351 3 дня назад
Agree. It's not a just war.
@yohanneslong1970
@yohanneslong1970 2 дня назад
After Saturday comes Sunday
@Justin-kn6dp
@Justin-kn6dp 2 дня назад
If the Jews would just convert like they should have 2000 years ago, this war would not have begun. They need to repent of their pride and follow our Lord. Please continue to pray for them and the Palestinian's as well.
@WildwoodCastle
@WildwoodCastle День назад
Yeah... Much worse than those Crusades for Holy Relics...
@MrSmith-zy2bp
@MrSmith-zy2bp 10 часов назад
Ah, but they did after the destruction of the temple in 70 AD. Levant Christians are genetically closer to the Jews of Jesus's time than the rabbinic jews of today. The land belongs to the Levant Christians.
@pegminarski5253
@pegminarski5253 3 дня назад
Prayers for Pope Francis ❤
@mastergmoore
@mastergmoore 19 часов назад
Let thy will be done lord. Enlighten the path ahead and give us proper guidance on the challenges ahead. Sacred heart of Jesus I trust in you always. Amen.
3 дня назад
It's good to make, every 5 years, a little commercial for Catechism of the Catholic Church. 😅
@bngr_bngr
@bngr_bngr 3 дня назад
I paid $1.50 for a used copy.
@indeterminableentertainmen2327
Kingdom Of Jerusalem?
@yohanneslong1970
@yohanneslong1970 3 дня назад
Remember this: After Saturday comes Sunday
@WildwoodCastle
@WildwoodCastle День назад
Remember after Sabbath comes 1st Day...
@LordMazdamundi
@LordMazdamundi 2 дня назад
Finish the phrase! Synagogue of ….!
@WildwoodCastle
@WildwoodCastle День назад
Finish the phrase! Mother of ...!
@Crusader-George
@Crusader-George 22 часа назад
Synagogue of satan
@AthanSMaliakkal
@AthanSMaliakkal 20 часов назад
Mother of God. Ave Christus Rex ​@@WildwoodCastle
@yohanneslong1970
@yohanneslong1970 19 часов назад
Finish the phrase! After saturday comes ...!
@AthanSMaliakkal
@AthanSMaliakkal 19 часов назад
@@yohanneslong1970 .....new week. Sentence finished
@lo5182
@lo5182 День назад
Long Live Christ the King!
@jenjaxskye
@jenjaxskye 3 дня назад
“Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.” ‭‭✝️ John‬ ‭14‬:‭27‬ ‭ “Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable-if anything is excellent or praiseworthy-think about such things. Whatever you have learned or received or heard from me, or seen in me-put it into practice. And the God of PEACE will be with you.” ‭‭✝️ Philippians‬ ‭4‬:‭8‬-‭9‬
@gwmkiwi
@gwmkiwi 3 дня назад
Support the BDS
@yohanneslong1970
@yohanneslong1970 19 часов назад
Support Dhimmitude
@JaylenPotts-zs2qw
@JaylenPotts-zs2qw 3 дня назад
I hope they pray for cities like Albany Ga
@anlerden4851
@anlerden4851 3 дня назад
I love Catholic Church and Israel so much.🥰😍🤗🙏✝
@ValAllOver
@ValAllOver 3 дня назад
I don't know why i find RR (which is not an official Vatican media like Vatican News) seems to be on the side of making things worse, just like they did with the LGBT reports, they did make our Church looks ridiculous. I have never seen them making reports what both side have done to each, but mostly only focus to one side alone, ignoring the fact of the threat coming from Islamic jihad from the Catholic sources, including Vatican News. May Christians be blessed and protected in the Holy Land in this difficult time 🙏🏻✝️🇻🇦
@justinthomasjacob595
@justinthomasjacob595 3 дня назад
Israel is literally committing a genocide and also oppresses and discriminates Palestinian Christian communities
@iruletheworldiruletheworld8365
Catholic Church has the final say if your Catholic. End of 🇻🇦
@icxcnika7358
@icxcnika7358 3 дня назад
In matters of faith and morals not politics + there are levels of Magisterium and the Justice and Peace Commission of the Holy Land wouldn't necessarily have it at all
@icxcnika7358
@icxcnika7358 3 дня назад
@@mpkropf5062 You misunderstood me. abortion is irrelevant to what I was talking about. The Church clearly teaches the concept of a just war, and one can hold the opinion that the war in Gaza is just, and be a Catholic in good standing.
@bngr_bngr
@bngr_bngr 3 дня назад
Yeah that won’t work this time. Israel needs to defeat Hamas. We must support Israel and not interfere.
@genarosalazar2818
@genarosalazar2818 2 дня назад
You mess with Israel 🇮🇱 you mess with God.
@AthanSMaliakkal
@AthanSMaliakkal 20 часов назад
​@@bngr_bngrwhat ? 😂 Can you show in the Bible where it says the current Judaism of rabbaic is the one established by God ? Lol. The Catholic church being the empire of God in earth has all right to say the wrongs did by the kingdom of Israel. And if will continue until the final days
@jonyivre4541
@jonyivre4541 3 дня назад
À la guerre comme à la guerre.
@Christophoros-it1qt
@Christophoros-it1qt 2 дня назад
For us (truly Apostolic Christians) there is no such a thing as "just war", because Jesus has never permitted anyone to sin against His Commandments, or given anyone Authority (not even Peter) to make exemptions from them! Even though He is willing to forgive the truly penitents, He will never condone any sins against them! The virtually "canonization" of the 'Sin of Cain' since the fourth Century by the betrayal of the Hierarchy till today, is not going to change the Word of God, ever! Hating your neighbor makes you a 'murderer', says John, and all violence and all wars on all sides are inspired by the Devi, the "Crusaides" too! Only the one who looks like 'an Angel of light' and his demons by their very clever lies make them look "reasonable"! (Poor Thomas Aquino!) Veritatis Missio
@raphaelledesma9393
@raphaelledesma9393 2 дня назад
The concept of just war is an extension of legitimate self-defense. I assume that you accept that violence to protect yourself and others as a last resort is not sinful. I also assume you're okay with Christians serving in the police and occasionally using proportionate force to stop criminals and protect the innocent.
@Christophoros-it1qt
@Christophoros-it1qt 2 дня назад
@@raphaelledesma9393 No, no, no! Please, read it again! During the first three hundred years of Christianity, it was "unthinkable" for the Apostolic Christians to harm or kill their blood-thirsty persecutors or anybody else in 'self-defence' or for whatever reason! That the Sin of Cain became after the fourth Century in the Devil's Interpretation of the term 'self-defence' to this day even in the CCC, is the betrayal and the error which has to be corrected! More (truly Christian) theology in my videos! Veritatis Missio
@Christophoros-it1qt
@Christophoros-it1qt 2 дня назад
@@raphaelledesma9393 I already sent you a "re-consider" reply, and the program marked it as "redirected"! Veritatis Missio
@raphaelledesma9393
@raphaelledesma9393 2 дня назад
@@Christophoros-it1qt Hmm, but then how do we square this with the traditions and hagiography of there being soldier martyrs in the first three centuries: (St Sebastian, St Demetrius, etc) and that there are documentation of Christians serving in the army. Reading on it, there is no prohibition under pain of excommunication against Christians serving in the army.
@Christophoros-it1qt
@Christophoros-it1qt 2 дня назад
@@raphaelledesma9393 They were Martyred, like Achilleus, because they refused to serve after their conversion! There were, of course, always "Judas", but as many "blood-thirsty Christians" do not know, or make themselves "blind" for the Historical fact, that no one was allowed to serve as soldier in the Roman Empire before Constantine without swearing allegiance to the "Gods of the State", because the existence of the State (as they believed) was depending! on these Gods! I understand your grief and pain that make you (subconsciously) resist the Truth, but Jesus wants me to help you and all who will listen to my (our) Penitential Program (videos) of Veritatis Missio to save your souls!
@WildwoodCastle
@WildwoodCastle 3 дня назад
And the women sang one to another as they played, and said, Saul hath slain his thousands, And David his ten thousands...
@stevenwiswell4308
@stevenwiswell4308 День назад
Einstein his hundreds of thousands...
@WildwoodCastle
@WildwoodCastle День назад
@@stevenwiswell4308 I would lay that one on Truman...
@sports872
@sports872 3 дня назад
It's a genocide
@yohanneslong1970
@yohanneslong1970 3 дня назад
After saturday comes sunday.
@kevinfernandez9999
@kevinfernandez9999 3 дня назад
No
@genarosalazar2818
@genarosalazar2818 2 дня назад
You mess with Israel 🇮🇱 you mess with God.
@LordMazdamundi
@LordMazdamundi 2 дня назад
@@genarosalazar2818The Synagogue of Satan are children of their father the devil. Tell me who I’m paraphrasing 😊
@catforhire2931
@catforhire2931 19 часов назад
​@@genarosalazar2818 This comes from saint Paul. Romans 9:6-8: "For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. Nor because they are his descendants are they all Abraham's children. You cannot simultaneously reject Jesus and his church and receive his blessings.
@henrybass7746
@henrybass7746 3 дня назад
Read Revelation, chapters 17 and 18. Judgement day is coming fast!
@mnmmcg3543
@mnmmcg3543 3 дня назад
It's just war bro calm down
@manuelvargas467
@manuelvargas467 3 дня назад
Jesus and Mary please help 🇮🇱 israel ✝️📿❤️‍🔥
@jacktracy8356
@jacktracy8356 3 дня назад
1 John 4:2 KJV Hereby you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 3 and every spirit that confesses not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist. Note: GOD was manifest in the flesh (1 Timothy 3:16 KJV) as the SON of GOD, JESUS CHRIST, to shed HIS real blood and give HIS real body on a real cross once for the forgiveness of all sins for whosoever believes. (Hebrews KJV chapters 9 and 10.) In complete contradiction to this, the RCC teaches that CHRIST comes in a wafer as often as a priest pleases.
@John2verse5
@John2verse5 2 дня назад
Even before 1611, the Word IS. Brethren, why do the "not my king" james followers always capitalize his initials before JESUS/GOD ? Isn't that "Exodus 32" ? Mother of thee only King of King's is Queen. Ave MARÍA🌹🌷🌹, please pray for my confused brethren.
@jacktracy8356
@jacktracy8356 2 дня назад
@@John2verse5 I quoted from the Book of John. Do you have a reply to what I quoted?
@hail2mary7
@hail2mary7 3 дня назад
🇻🇦🇮🇱
@ValAllOver
@ValAllOver 3 дня назад
I don't know why i find RR (which is not an official media as Vatican News) seems to be on the side of making things worse, just like they did with the LGBT reports, they did make our Church looks ridiculous. I have never seen them making reports what both side have done to each, but mostly only focus to one side alone, ignoring the fact of the threat coming from Islamic jihad from the Catholic sources, including Vatican News. May Christians be blessed and protected in the Holy Land in this difficult time 🙏🏻✝️🇻🇦 Hopefully RR don't take this one down 😄
@amitperlman1096
@amitperlman1096 3 дня назад
I am Catholic and Israeli soldier 🇮🇱✝️
@icxcnika7358
@icxcnika7358 3 дня назад
גם אני אחי
@deutschermichel5807
@deutschermichel5807 3 дня назад
Do you murder Palestinians once a week ir once a month?
@dainagrn7030
@dainagrn7030 3 дня назад
You mean slave
@deutschermichel5807
@deutschermichel5807 3 дня назад
@@WilliamSanderson-zh9dq whatʼs with the terrorist / civilian kill ratio?
@manuelnunez8802
@manuelnunez8802 3 дня назад
@@WilliamSanderson-zh9dq That's why Netanyahu's first action was to bomb the hostages. That makes sense.
@damianop100
@damianop100 3 дня назад
The Catholic Church should be very careful when criticizing Israel in this regard. The claims outlined here against Israel are simply untrue. If ever there was a just war, this is it.
@Joe-sg8tk
@Joe-sg8tk 3 дня назад
It is a just war.
@raphaelledesma9393
@raphaelledesma9393 2 дня назад
@@WilliamSanderson-zh9dqOur Catechism has more than those three though. The concept and conditions have been refined and adjusted by the Magisterium due to the changing times (particularly since warfare has become much more destructive since the Middle Ages). Using the contemporary conditions (remembering that they must all be fulfilled), would it still be a just war?
@michaeljohndennis2231
@michaeljohndennis2231 3 дня назад
Even as a traditional (Mass in Latin and pre-Vatican II, pro-Cardinal Burke and pro-Archbishop Vigano) Irish Catholic, I support the Israeli government stance on this issue
@manuelnunez8802
@manuelnunez8802 3 дня назад
Because if 1,000 civilians are slaughtered it's evil. So when 40,000+ civilians are slaughtered...well...uh...well, then it's NOT so evil somehow, right? Right?
@user-cv8ej4hu7p
@user-cv8ej4hu7p 3 дня назад
Шайтаны ,что католики,что иудеи.
@catherinetrinh3260
@catherinetrinh3260 3 дня назад
You are confused. Catholics are spiritual descendants of Jesus. Jewish people are God's chosen people. It was Jesus who increased the number of chosen people by adding His followers.
@John2verse5
@John2verse5 2 дня назад
My YESHUA/JESUS says, I'll die so you can live. The devil says, keep discord, hate/kill each other (communist & islamist) and the unborn so I can live. There's truly no greater fear than love itself, Repent.
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