As requested, I made another video showing higher speeds as well as inside the car with windows up. I also compared to a vehicle without PWS: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0Fna39CLs_E.html
They should have made the sound horse hooves and large wooden cart wheels. I mean, since we're setting things back in time, why not go all the way guys, come on.
I'm sure there will be different sounds to be downloaded, like this is the case with smartphones. I already imagine the "music" we will hear from our streets. At least: Different manufacturer, different sound. ;-)
Well, mankind finally invents silent, peaceful motorized transport that is fast and powerful and government has to step in and ruin it. Fortunately, rules were meant to be broken.
@Official Tester That would be tragic. Which is why people are taught to look both ways before crossing a street. I cannot support a rule that requires a beeper on all-electric cars but not on quiet gas cars. There is no excuse for the double standard.
@siliara The noisemakers have nothing to do with people who are blind - it's regulation driven by anti-EV interests. One more cumbersome regulation that EV's have. They didn't require this on hybrids - even ones that use pure EV mode at slow speeds, only pure EV's have to comply! It's an American legislative disgrace!
@siliara Prove that there's a statistically meaningful correlation between the advent of electric vehicles and motor vehicle accidents involving visually impaired pedestrians.
Even more simple is find the fuse. Someone I know, not me, pulled the dedicated fuse for the pedestrian warning in their Volt. My friend, not me, can then easily just pop it back in for it to work again. Don't know if the Model 3 has a dedicated fuse or not.
It’s a single speaker with a cable connected to it. It should easily be disconnected (just like your stereo speakers). The real question should be if the car senses that the speaker has been disconnected and throws a warning code. Anyone want to test it out? 🕵🏻♂️
This is so stupid! Part of the draw of an electric car is the silence. Now we are going to hear all of this noise during bumper to bumper traffic. Talk about noise polution.
@@jackcarroll6801 , the latest with electric cars is that under 19 mph, they must emit a sound to alert pedestrians. My point is that in bumper to bumper traffic (under the 19 mph) can you imagine all the noise on the highway these cars( electric) will be making because of a new law. When other ice vehicles dont have to emit any additional sound. Google it, you can listen to the sound they have to make, it's pretty annoying. It will sound like the jetson's going down the highway.
@@18837dc i understand but i’ve vehicles are ALREADY making noise. so what’s a small hum of an electric car going to contribute to that. also i’m pretty sure tesla is smart enough to disable the noise when the vehicle is on a roadway and now in a parking lot
@@potatoman2442 I get it, but there are plenty of silent ice vehicles out there and they dont have to make extra noise for blind pedestrians. This just seems one sided. Have it that all vehicles that make under a certain exterior road noise decibel included in this.
@@senortaco3563 Except, ICE vehicle are for the most part silent these days and NOT designed to create annoying attention getting noises. The part I cannot wait for is when electricity prices begin to skyrocket to cash in on the growing demand for charging watts LOL We will see all the EV fanatics crying about how cheap gasoline is due to the waning demand - I predict 75c per gallon and lower gasoline prices as EV adoption grows resulting in a sudden demand for ICE vehicles again
That's appalling. One of the best things about electric cars is the silence. I reckon it is part of the Dinosaur car manufacturers campaign against electric cars. I was looking forward to a quieter community, but this noise is just plain obnoxious.
No you can thanks idiots in Government. That have no clue about what they regulate. My gas powered car is quieter than this.. and plenty of gas powered cars are essentially silent when rolling at slow speeds. You will only hear tire noise. This whole thing is idiotic... Govt regulations
@@martialman.4563 I don't think any cars have had a sound maker in them yet .. no Prius I know of has one . Been almost 12 years since the Bush Administration.
@@martialman.4563 Unfortunate.. the silence is one of the coolest things. My Prius is silent at slow speeds.. Be interesting to see if there are any statistics on how many pedestrian have been hit by Priuses in the last 21 years..
@@joeputz4559 On the speaker inputs?? then you could replace the speaker with an 8Ohm or 4 ohm resister...to emulate speaker...but again I actually like the reverse. sound...
Maybe everyone (pedestrians included) could just start paying attention and keeping their faces out of their devices and their earbuds out of their ears. Glad I have an older Model 3.
@@BFArch0n, I fully understand the concern about the blind. My question would be if car/ped crashes where the ped is blind are due to the pedestrian not hearing the car or the driver not paying attention to their surroundings? I would propose it is the latter and that making EVs make noise will do nothing to help drivers pay attention.
i might add here that this is all political. particularly in europe all these 1 - 2 L cars are extremely quiet and nowhere near as loud as a Tesla. I remember having a Model S drive past me in a parking lot before (this was the first time I ever saw one). Because it is such a behemoth the tire noise makes it much louder than our smaller gas cars in europe.
@@ryan.vision Thanks Ryan. Yes, I have now seen it talked about on other channels. Seems it is yet another government mandated requirement. I can understand the need for it, I guess, but the kind of noise is what I find objectionable. Forward is okay but that reverse noise sounds stupid and embarrassing. Being mandated, it will have to meet certain standards though.
I do not understand the need for this. It is stupid. What’s next? Mandatory earring aids for older people so they can ear the sound and be safer?!? Mandatory sounds for ICE vehicles that do not make enough decibels at low speeds because they are too efficient?!? Stupid laws...
I like it. I've been in many situations where I'm driving thru a parking lot (like Costco or something) and stupid people walk right down the middle of the lane. I don't want to honk and scare them, but the current car is so quiet that they don't hear you to move out the way!
Wait.. If a car has sensors 360 around the car, surely it should only make sound if something is there in the direction of travel? For reverse a sound is fine, but forward it shouldn't have to make a sound if the car can detect no objects a minimum distance away. Also, why is it just for EV's?? Surely it should be mandated for ANY car below a db? Feels like a really old rule before computer vision existed and with ICE manufacturers influence.
That sounds absolutely horrendous! It sounds like some horrible electric drive or drivetrain failure. I am so happy that crappy PWS is NOT in my Model 3!!! My PWS is called a horn which in a year and a half of ownership I have not even needed to use. I live in a big city and a lot of time my car is driving in slow traffic and all you would hear is that insanely horrific sound that would absolutely drive me and everybody else around me nuts!
Oh. My. God. That reverse noise is obnoxious. Thank God I've already got my Tesla. I intend to hack my next EV to at least lower the volume of the PSW.
I don't mind the reverse ufo sound, but the foward sound is disgusting. They should let us have the option to play the jetsons flying car sounds instead.
The reverse UFO noise is cool. Reminds me of Star Trek. I’d prefer that over the fan noise for forward motion. I’d imagine a simple disconnect would solve the problem if you don’t like it, if not a software work around.
Let me know if you figure out how to do this. Really, I wouldn’t mind having the ufo sound all the time. Wonder if we can find the sound file and have it part of the drive sounds. Sounds really cool to me.
I really don't like the PWS rule. One of the reason I like about the EV is its quietness. However, if Tesla makes several fun sound options for PWS, I may like it.
It doesn't seem very loud considering the going in and out of park sound (not sure what that is but could be park brake) seems to be very loud compared.
Ironically this type of regulation is promulgated by young liberal career bureaucrats at the EPA, DOT and NHTSA that are trying to make a name for themselves. You folks are getting exactly what you always voted for - government control over all aspects of your life :)
Like most I don’t like it but I’ve seen a lot of issues where pedestrians and bikers have no idea the car is near them. The sound isn’t going to bug me driving so I really shouldn’t care. I just hope there are Easter eggs for this in the future.
LOL - hilarious... mall parking lots are going sound like jetson episode. BTW, that reverse hum is very irritating. Still wouldnt trade these noises for actual IC engine noises.
I like how all electric cars have to be fit with a noisemaker now. Think of a Toyota Prius, it doesn’t have a noisemaker but it’s extremely quiet. Think of most of the new Nissan cars or any inexpensive car, they are dead silent usually and they don’t need a noisemaker. I want all cars to be silent because it will be so much easier
Does it really have to be that loud? Maybe it’s that loud to overcome ambient noise. The fact that he’s recording close to a large flat building wall would make it sound louder than it would in a wide open space. Some duct tape over the speaker grill would reduce the volume.
Picked up my Model 3 Performance Plus a year ago this month, so no issue for me personally. But it wouldn’t matter either way. I’d still have to get the snippers out and disconnect those wires. Atrocious.
The risk in doing that is if you end up hitting a pedestrianand during the investigation they find out you disconnected the system you're going to be in serious legal trouble. your insurance company will probably not pay for the injury to the other person and you will end up getting sued by The pedestrian. personally I think the warning system is idiotic most gas cars don't make any noise when they're sitting there either, and certainly when they're moving at slow speeds all you hear is tire noise on the pavement.
If only it wasn't so unreasonably loud. Compared to an ICE car it's stupidly loud. If they just tone it down to even half the decibels, it would be fine. Glad I got mine before this crap.
I would be interested in how the sound disappears when driving faster and how it sounds when driving over 30mph and the sound deactivates compared to driving 29 mph with sound on
6:06 For safety reason, even with non-blind people but distracted, the audio warning is one of the only way to re-aware pedestrians. Yeah, I can understand EV will no longer completely silent. Just don't remove it. it's bad idea! (crashed) 8:20 The Reverse mode focus the mirror to the ground to allow you see the side when parking!!! WOW! clever!!!
LMFAO, I was at target and parked next to a Tesla model X, and as I was checking my oil, the Tesla reversed and all I heard was a UFO like noise and was super confused
Has there been a single case of a pedestrian getting hit because they couldn't hear an EV? And would an ICE's noise have prevented it? If pedestrians are wearing headphones, they can't hear gas cars either. I feel like at slow speeds, most of what you hear as a pedestrian is the friction between the tires and the road. This is so obnoxious, it's going to ruin one of the best aspects of EV driving, not just for EV drivers but for everyone else too. I hope they realize it's stupid after a few years and overturn it.
OMG... Is this still active at 30 km/h (appx. 18 mph)? Here in Germany they enlarge 30 km/h limits everywhere. This would mean more noise than before with conventional cars.
if there were more 'voices' that came with this feature it would be charming. like harman kardon's v8 synthesis. would be a lot of fun hearing an EV roar like that, pops and bangs and shift sounds.
So here in NYC where avg Manhattan speed is literally 7mph and many other cities for that matter... I’d have to hear this noise non-stop? I have an early M3 w/o this feature thankfully. I do not like it. Reverse is one thing, but going forward? That’s why cars have horns.
Not just because of the sound. Your lady will be able to track your every move if she has access to the Tesla app for your car. I track my wife all the time just to see when she'll be home, how far out she is.
Ridiculous. A result of regulation by opinion not fact. Seen many maimed visually impaired pedestrians aside the road lately? Next mandate will require 1960s era cop-car cherry roof lights to warn the hearing impaired. Save the hearing impaired, install a cherry atop every car! Teslas should have the option to activate fart mode (ref Monty Python....I fart in your general direction 💨)
It would be awesome if you could add your own sounds. (Can you?) I'd add the voice of the Delamain autonomous car Cyberpunk. It'd be hilarious to be walking and you hear "BEEP BEEP MOTHER *#$(*&@!!!)
Ngl some dude just backed up next to me and I was so confused when I heard that sound. I enjoy my blacked out silent 3. Makes it extra spooky. I also enjoy giving people standing in the road a nice spook when I hit the horn. Would disable those speakers.
The sound is to conform to the Pedestrian Safety Enhancement act of 2010. In checking the NHTSA studies that were used to justify the act, crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/811204, and crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/811526, it appears that the studies have flawed methodology. NHTSA compared hybrid electrics (HE's) to ICEs by dividing HE pedestrian and bike accidents with all HE accidents, not HE accidents per HE's in operation per mile on the road. Since HE's probably tend to be driven in urban and slower speed areas, the accident rate would tend to be weighted towards more slow speed pedestrian and bicycle accidents. HE drivers might even have lower accident rates in general. When you divide by total accidents, more general ICE accidents lowers the pedestrian and bike accident ratios for ICE's. The original data was from police reports of accidents where the speeds were rather imprecise. Vision impairment was not part of the police reports. Basically, it looks like the NHTSA fudged the data to favor adding car noise.
I have a Leaf and a model 3. I silenced my Leaf with the app leaf spy. I’m glad my model 3 is a year old. And will remain silent for as much as I can. That noise is HORRIBLE!
