brutus56ful Yes one handed but most us Auto Technicians teach ourselfs to work one handed due poor engineering. The reasoning behind this they make the components so tight to each other and the body that they almost never think about the car being repaired by someone with two hands.
Just a note for anyone doing this. A top plug is not (!) a level check plug. You need to fill exact amount as per service manual even if oil goes higher than "fill plug". This is different than on any other car.
The oil does NOT go higher than the plug. It takes far less than that. If it’s overfilled, it aerates the fluid and causes lubricity issues, leading to increased bearing wear when spinning at 18k rpms. Spec calls for 1.5qts. This had nearly 4.
I send in a sample for transmission fluid and engine oil every 50k on wife's car. My 16 F-150 with 2.7 ecoboost gets an oil sample sent in every other 5k because of the turbos and at 30k once I get there for transmission fluid. I personally have witnessed a truck "semi" having an oil analysis done and catching a bearing going bad before having any symptoms and a vans head gasket starting to fail. This is why I change fluids even if the manufacturer says no need too. There's a wealth of information in what you cant see.
Thanks for an interesting video. Amazing how watching a head mounted webcam video can make you feel a little nauseous where as the same amount of movement perceived with your own eyes doesn't have the same effect.
Thanks for the video you made this an easy process. I used ramps to get under the car and used a flexible tube attached to the quart bottles to refill the transmission.
Chris Williams just remember, both motors should be serviced. the front motor is pretty much the identical procedure, but you need to watch fluid type based on motor model number. there's a reply on one of these comments where it is specified.
That is a very cumbersome way to change trans/differential fluid. Most cars accessible without removing multiple panels, just a plug on the rear axle, or the trans pan is accessible with no panel removal-every car I ever owned is that way from high school, 43 years.
One plug should be enough to empty the sump, always has been on every car I ever worked on. A simple aerodynamic cover and accessible plug. No need to be defensive, if it's a cumbersome/labor intensive($$$) process then they should improve it.
I don't know what to say to the people complaining that the repair was messy. You want things done fast, maybe not a single splash of anything and your trim pieces massaged.
+RickTrajan eh, it wasn't to show how to do it in a sterile clean room in a tyvek suit. It's something I do in my free time to show owners how to do things themselves. It's quick, sloppy, and one handed. I don't care how people choose to criticize, so long as an owner can get the idea and undertake the job themselves.
Tesla Repair Channel people's standards are way too high yet they don't want to pay as much - but that's typical, the worst is when they're not considering what they're asking for.
Two questions: 1. How to know when is the right time to change the drive unit fluid (Model S, 2017 - haven't changed since) 2. For the Model S 2017 AWD P100D, what is the recommended Transmission fluid quantity?
They could have added a simple access panel with a hinge under those drain plug. Would make this much easier than pulling off all those panels. I understand it's not a common service to do.. but still. Kinda dumb.
I hate to be a prick, but I guess I will: This is _exactly_ the reason I won't let ANYONE else work on my car, not even the stealership, for ANY reason. Rounded off bolts, bolts with vice grip marks all over them, scratched/gouged plastic panels, and _"push rivets" that look like they've been chewed on by a dog_ are my HOLY pet peeves. The only reason someone would get away with any of that on my ride would be because I would have a total loss of coolant meltdown and become a bubbling puddle of lava right before his eyes...
Yeah man, like I mentioned, I can be an overwhelming asshole when necessary, but this time I wasn't trying to be a dick just to be a dick. ...and to be honest? I threw out my comment before I had even finished watching your video, only to later see you properly using a click-wrench and snagging a sample for the oil-analysis. Also, +++ _major_ props to you for having such a cool-headed response.....
No offense ,but something wrong with u lol.Bolts with grip marks ,seriously that bothering u ???,they are fuc... bolts,who gives a fack how they look under car ?.Scratched plastic panels ,wtf ....u should keep ur car in glass cube,then u can sleep well.
Really? Something is wrong with *me?* No offense, you annoying little pissant...maybe one day when you are no longer suckling on mommy & daddy's bank account and you aren't fascinated with idiotic video games anymore, you will appreciate the proper care of your own items that have price tags nearly equal to small houses. Until then, _you_ and people like you ARE THE PROBLEM. Damn ignnorant judgemental fucktards...
Tesla Repair Channel Haha, yeah I would love to. I don’t charge that much. Or you can get one of your coworkers to do it for a beer after work. Anyway, I’m just giving you a hard time. Good video none-the-less.
His in a shop its going to be hard to lose them. Don't try that outdoors thou...I dropped a bolt right in front of my face..never found it. They are really good camouflagers on black asphalt.
Quite helpful vid - thx a lot ! Good to know it boils down to a typical diff fluid change. No need to spend >500 bucks on this at your friendly Tesla dealer ;-)
Toyotas do not even have dipstick for ATF or any word about it in owner manual as it is "for life" factory fill. Same for many GM cars. Strange that TESLA does not use permanent fluid, they have been available since 1970's, like for example www.synlube.com/synthetic-atf.html or even Mobil 1 Synthetic AFT will last 300,000 miles or more !!! So having obsolete technology in $100,000 car is quite a disappointment !!!
The drive unit is designed to last over 1 million miles so 300000 mile fluid isn't going to cut it this is a 100 thousand mile service if I remember correctly so nothing like doing a 5 quart oil change every 7500 miles.
Miro Kefurt they use Dexron VI in Teslas. if you look at the maintenance schedule for GMs that use Dex VI, they call for a fluid change at 60k. It's not a required item, but it doesn't hurt to change it. in this case, it's a good thing I did, because the iron level was insane.
What I’m trying to figure out is why the fluid is being replaced in the first place. Tesla does not advise fluid replacement for any of the services. This is NOT recommended by Tesla.
broderp you're more than welcome to use whatever tools work best for you. from taking these apart enough times, a right angle pick is the easiest tool for me.
yeah.. before I refill mine, I run around the car 4 times holding the container of fresh fluid and chanting 'oh ho yo ho'. That way the transmission is ready to accept and bond with the new fluid. Done this hundreds of times and it works.. haven't had a transmission failure yet.
Great video. My 06 Saturn has 180,000 miles with the original fluid. But the real question is how do you change the flasher fluid and where can you buy the stuff. I asked at an automotive supply store and they made fun of me. One guy even muttered I was stupid. Can you believe it?
Yes. Tesla says it’s not required due to a change in manufacturing processes, but it’s such a simple and inexpensive task that I’d absolutely recommend doing at least the first change, since this unit was replaced by Tesla, and it was loaded with iron and overfilled by about 150%.
Suggestion: Video on patching the all weather continentals. I've punctured 2 tires in the past two weeks. Continental doesn't support repairs. The work requires a dremel tool to sand away the goo that holds the noise reducing foam.
Hillary Blinton 2 things: the foam you remove weighs next to nothing, and the wheel will balance out fine, and you can easily glue the foam back in. better yet, don't waste money on the foam tires, and by the standard versions for less money. The differences are only apparent at very specific frequencies. most people will never notice the difference between a foam tire, and a standard one
Do you happen to know the fluid in the model 3 performance drive units? What are the intervals for replacing both the battery coolant and the drive unit fluid?
staaaajn that's the plan, but I'm currently trying to.....diplomatically.....gain access to the diagnostic systems, and open then up for public use. if these cars are going to rule the roads in the future, people have to be able to maintain them in their driveway when needed
Tesla Repair Channel is that Blackstone Labs you’re using for testing? I’ve had 2 cars’ oil tested by them. I just got a new (2 year old) truck that I’m anxious to see their analysis for.
yarik06 I have not. this unit was replaced due to inverter noise and the milling noise. there have been a few people who have, and I will reach out to them to see if they can record a video of the procedure and I will post it.
I've watched the Jack Rickard where they install the Quaife ATB and they replaced the bearings. I'm just not sure if it's the same bearings that make the noise? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RJvjgEK7V4I.htmlh15m51s
No. It’s only in the transmission. Iron in the fluid destroys the bearings, and has led to the failure of almost every first generation large drive unit.
I'm at 190k issue came up like out of no where at 189500. Could improper high lifting of the left rear at discount tire cause an issue? Also found a ticking at the splines of the cv axle
Really... Let's see, changing gear oil is a real hassle in comparison to engine oil every 5k, spark plugs, serpentine belts/timing belts, brakes every 40k (Tesla's last over 100k easily), antifreeze (batteries do have glycol based coolant too), air filter, fuel filter, exhaust/catalytic converter, smog checks. I own both an S and an X in place of my loved Jaguars and Range Rover. Each car cost me $80 month to charge at home, in comparison to $400 month in fuel for each carr. I can drive in the carpool lane by myself without charge...and best of all, the car drives itself. Recently took a road trip from California to Everett Washington and the car drove 95% of the way. Sorry dude, the MANTRA, as you put it, sticks!
lofl. I haven't replaced a spark plug since I bought my 2003 Durango in 2005, three Rams, one sold at 156,000, one at 212,000, and a new one I will drive to at least 200,000. Fuel injection and perfect combustion with modern engine/combustion control means plugs don't foul or wear out like they used to. Same with belts, one broke at 45,000 miles from a cut not by wear, replaced two others-they were squeaking from surface glazing. My brakes go 85,000 because I don't ride them and don't do "stop-go" stupid driving. Anti-freeze goes 5 years between refresh. Air filter 50,000 miles, replace/clean, not expensive, less than $30. Catalytic converter? again, perfect combustion means much cleaner exhaust goes thru system-have not replace on any vehicles mentioned above and never failed an emissions test. Emission test $25 at yearly inspection. I read on a Tesla forum that Model S has service at two years and 4 years, 2 year cost $700 and 4 year cost $900. That's more than my oil changes cost. Gas cost is true, but then again if you bought long range Tesla you paid extra($10k-$15k/) for longer range battery. That is same as "gas", since you cannot go that extra range without the extra cost battery upgrade-which is expensive.
Magnetic bolt. Was there any debris on it? Also, that fluid looks pretty good. How many miles on it? I'm at 13k for two years. Do I need to worry about this yet?
Wrong anyone can get the tool boxs it's against the law for tesla to prevent owners from doing their own maintenance however access to the toolbox software is expensive expensive I think like 1500! $ a year
Wok if you can do or somehow find a video of how to change/replace the coolant in a Tesla Model S that would be great based off what you mentioned. Thanks
Fascinating Video! Thank you very much! Interested in seeing how an electric car is maintained compared to an ICE. Is maintenance easier on a Electric vs ICE? Thanks great video!
If Japan Korea China would give all its know how and agree to start building these things then I would buy one but it has to be a world thing not a made and assembled in USA car. Also I am disabled and have been using electric movers for 10 years just make sure you have a easy toe ring on the head and tail. .
Blaise Wisman much less. This car uses 1.5 quarts of transmission fluid, while a standard automatic transmission uses 8-10 quarts, most of which is for the torque converter. Other fluids, like brake fluid, and coolant, are comparable to most cars.
@@EvolutionAutomotiveLLC thanks, i am loving my duel motor AWD but that was one of the questions always brought up my petrol heads saying silly things like ICE is just as green as EVs lol.
Looks to be too many screws just to remove the plastic covers.Really inefficient construction. Already rust on some of the screws seems to be bad quality
zapp2007 but they will vivrate, rattle and make noise if not secured properly. Luckily, they use only one type of fastener which makes all the job easier. Trust me it's much better than working on some german cars with different fasteners all over the places
David Reitter as of now, yes. there's rumors of the S going permanent magnet like the Model 3, and I don't know if that will impact the transmission at all.
Ask Honda for design help. On my CRV the head and tail is cheep thin plastic all held in with plastic pop nuts. Bolts Nuts and web reinforced panels are 1970s technology. Tesla see Honda CRV head and tail under body panels ASAP
@EvolutionAutomotiveLLC thank you for your feed back i changed my LDU oil with redline MT-LV which is very low viscosity ( the one recommended for kona ev ) so far no issues.
+Scareface Visuals to see if they have moved at all during the next service. It's also a verification that they been properly tightened. Usually I'd mark them each as soon as they were done.