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@aliendroneservices6621
@aliendroneservices6621 5 месяцев назад
"With 24 accidents per 1,000 drivers during the period from mid-November 2022 to mid-November 2023, *_Tesla drivers clocked in with the worst accident rate in the U.S.,_* according to a study by Lending Tree, ahead of Ram and Subaru drivers."
@crazycoffee
@crazycoffee 5 месяцев назад
Why does it really not surprise me that Ram and Subaru are there
@kradius2169
@kradius2169 5 месяцев назад
Elonmobiles are all factory sleeper muscle cars -- zero speed torque / crazy acceleration -- so, speed kiils. U2oob: Wham Baam Teslacam if you want to see.some nitwit EV drivers.
@starlite2092
@starlite2092 5 месяцев назад
@@crazycoffee In Tesla you can also use positive pressure to float. Its a saftey device they didnt talk about called positive pressure. You are supposed to fart before submerging the vehicle. That creates a positive pressure of air to float and esure passanger safety.
@crazycoffee
@crazycoffee 5 месяцев назад
@@starlite2092 The fart limiter in my old dodge is worn out. I don't want to imagine how quick the ones on Tesla's wear out lol
@iffracem
@iffracem 5 месяцев назад
@@starlite2092should work well, seeing most EV steerers I know a full of hot air (and shit)
@Ostsol
@Ostsol 5 месяцев назад
Putting the shifter on the touch screen is absolute insanity. I saw another video indicating that regulators in the EU want to put an end to moving so many physical controls and necessary indicators on touch screens. Hopefully that goes through, or enough wallets pressure carmakers to keep more physical controls.
@maxhugen
@maxhugen 5 месяцев назад
Totally agree. Ever unintentionally mistyped something on a screen? How easy would it be to accidentally tap the wrong spot on a touch screen. One Tesla I saw on YT doesn't even display the speedometer in front of you - it too is "somewhere" in that screen to the side. And yet most countries have laws against using handheld mobile phones in cars!
@peterscott2662
@peterscott2662 5 месяцев назад
All the Tesla's also have physical buttons to change gears if they don't have a shift stalk. None of them are touch screen only.
@hvu6037
@hvu6037 5 месяцев назад
The car in question wad a 2020 model X where they still use the gear level instead of on the screen. And there is a backup panel where the gear selection buttons are located. Wish people who comment would have some knowledge about the subject first!
@darrennew8211
@darrennew8211 5 месяцев назад
@@maxhugen The speedometer on the side screen is actually nicer than behind the steering wheel where you can't see it because the wheel is in the way. Of course, Tesla could get rid of the dumb-ass advertisement bit on the screen behind the wheel and put the speed where you can see it, but lacking that, sticking it to the side isn't bad. Probably *safer* than looking down, really, because you can still see what's in front of you out of the side of your eye.
@maxhugen
@maxhugen 5 месяцев назад
@@darrennew8211 I haven't driven a car in over 5 decades where I can't see the speedo behind the wheel. And considering that virtually everything else is controlled via the screen, I don't see that as safe. Just a non-stop distraction, and cheap by Tesla.
@DM-ki1bs
@DM-ki1bs 5 месяцев назад
The best way to get out of an electric car is to give it back to your 4 year old Grandson.
@Kiwidaedong
@Kiwidaedong 5 месяцев назад
The first thing you should do when your car lands in the water is open the windows, then undo your seatbelt. The electric windows should be operable for a few minutes after the car is submerged.
@CenturionKenshin
@CenturionKenshin 5 месяцев назад
Unless short circuit is detected early and battery is disconnected by safety automat
@happyjoyjoy6976
@happyjoyjoy6976 5 месяцев назад
a big warning call to all vehicle manufacturers about the construction of side windows. go back to something that has worked for countless years and has a fail safe mechanism built into the window in case of emergency just like this one.
@aliendroneservices6621
@aliendroneservices6621 5 месяцев назад
What *_fail-safe mechanism built into the window_* are you talking about? I've never heard of this.
@greebo7857
@greebo7857 5 месяцев назад
@@aliendroneservices6621 It's called "tempered safety glass" that breaks when you need it to.
@happyjoyjoy6976
@happyjoyjoy6976 5 месяцев назад
hit it and it breaks. unlike laminated windows. how is that not a fail safe@@aliendroneservices6621
@linanicolia1363
@linanicolia1363 5 месяцев назад
When some guy went in the water trying to get her out , he could not break the window or open the door. I expect she had the doors locked. Really, how do you blame a car for a drowning ? Do we need ejection sets ? Yeah.....that's the ticket.....ejection seats.......Bah....It's a good thing she could not drive. She may have had a head on collision with a car full of kids......Her death saved their lives.......She was seriously drunk, 3 times over the limit.
@maifantasia3650
@maifantasia3650 5 месяцев назад
​@linanicolia1363 - she was not driving on public roads. She was driving on the private roads, on her own property. Why would there be a car full of kids driving around on her property?
@anth5189
@anth5189 5 месяцев назад
I am not surprised. The controls in a Tesla are so f-ing stupid and dangerous.
@mattc.310
@mattc.310 5 месяцев назад
A sad set of circumstances. She can't get out, friends can't get her out, first responders can't get her out, tow company's cable is too short... her number was up. It surprises me that the fire department couldn't figure out a way to gain entry, but I don't know what tools they carry. The Teslas design may have had something to do with the incident, but alcohol seems to be the bigger issue. It's just sad. So many there, and yet she still died.
@toomanyaccounts
@toomanyaccounts 5 месяцев назад
she spent time on the phone rather than work to save herself
@maxhugen
@maxhugen 5 месяцев назад
In an ICE car you'd have more time to react to that error, and hit the brake, than an EV that allows full torque instantly in reverse.
@peterscott2662
@peterscott2662 5 месяцев назад
Rescue immediated broke the window when they arrived. The issue was the time it took them too arrive. It's sad that her friends weren't practical minded enough to find something break a window...
@ebaystars
@ebaystars 5 месяцев назад
@@peterscott2662 they were drunk too
@danlowe8684
@danlowe8684 5 месяцев назад
And with that instant torque being unexpectedly going in the wrong direction (reverse), it would have thrust her forward in the car, leading to more pressure on the accelerator.
@StacheDTraining
@StacheDTraining 5 месяцев назад
💯
@captainotto
@captainotto 5 месяцев назад
Oh, sorry, I accidentally hit reverse. It looks like I might have pinned you between the bumper and wall. Sorry about your legs. But to be fair, that kind of accident can and probably does happen all the time with ICE cars too.
@leobuana7430
@leobuana7430 5 месяцев назад
​​​@@StacheDTraining Her father got deep ties with CCP faction who oppose the current chairman and we know they open "foreign branch of PRC Police"
@maxhugen
@maxhugen 5 месяцев назад
@@captainottoYes... but ICE cars don't have the acceleration of EVs. Not limiting the torque whilst reversing is nuts, since that couldn't be hard to program.
@tqlla
@tqlla 5 месяцев назад
@@captainotto I think a lot of newer cars have confusing shift mechanisms. In the past, it was pretty easy, P, Reverse, Neutral, Drive. And a driver would have physical feedback to let them know the car had moved from Park to reverse to Neutral to drive.
@teardowndan5364
@teardowndan5364 5 месяцев назад
The lack of physical feedback on shifter position and instant torque make it a whole lot easier for this sort of stuff to happen. As for getting out of the car goes, I think Mythbusters did two episodes on that. If you are unable to roll the windows down before getting in the water too deep and are unable to break windows, your next best option is to prepare and save your breath until the car fills up, pressure equalizes and you become able to open the doors again.
@DieselRamcharger
@DieselRamcharger 5 месяцев назад
well thank god the cybertruck is an inescapable prison cell!
@tonysheerness2427
@tonysheerness2427 5 месяцев назад
I could not hold my breath long enough for the pressure to equalise.
@arcrides6841
@arcrides6841 5 месяцев назад
@@tonysheerness2427 epecially when panic sets in. It's gonna be nearly impossible
@peterscott2662
@peterscott2662 5 месяцев назад
Note that on the Mythbuster's episode, even prepared, Adam failed on his first attempt to do that. He had to resort to bottled air, so would have died. After many trials in the pool, he later tried that again and succeeded with that strategy. This is a young fit man, knowing exactly what is going to happen, knowing he has a rescue diver, with the car slowly/gently lowered into the water. So that's not a very good real world strategy. The best strategy, is to roll down the windows as soon as you with the water, and get out via the window.
@tonysheerness2427
@tonysheerness2427 5 месяцев назад
@@peterscott2662Modern big obese people will not fit through the window.
@davetomlinson9063
@davetomlinson9063 5 месяцев назад
Easy to use manual dials and levers switch system instead of this bloody relying on a take your eyes off the road screen.
@duydatyds
@duydatyds 5 месяцев назад
A Tesla has a high risk of pond fatality, not because of its function, but the lack of common sense of the people that owned it.
@maxhugen
@maxhugen 5 месяцев назад
Great design ideas: 1. Make shifting to Drive rather than Reverse a little tricky. 2. Allow full torque instantly whilst in Reverse. 3. Ensure side windows cannot be easily broken.
@darrennew8211
@darrennew8211 5 месяцев назад
She was obscenely drunk. She probably wouldn't have died if she wasn't drunk. (She wasn't driving drunk, because she wasn't leaving her own property.)
@mimleggette2886
@mimleggette2886 5 месяцев назад
They failed to mention she was intoxicated ...I have a Tesla and I am so over everyones stupidity about this car. If you can't drive park it. Let's c they recalled what about 1.9 million Ford explores, oh my computer glitches heaven forbid and then the trim was flying off around the windshield...oh my goodness that just might cause an accident or damage my tesla as it Flys thru the air. Seriously its 90% human error in most of those accidents. Self driving or not you must be attentive and drive the car regardless. Get off the kick about Tesla! I am so over it! Tesla is one of the safest cars on the road if not the safest.
@maxhugen
@maxhugen 5 месяцев назад
@@mimleggette2886 _" I am so over everyones..."_ Then leave the conversation if you can't cope with valid criticism.
@hvu6037
@hvu6037 5 месяцев назад
Not when the criticism is based on misconception, wrong information, ignorance, or just plain unhinged hatred! Many of these comments came from people.with minimal knowledge of Tesla and simply regurgitate things they have heard from.other haters. That's why it's so irritating. It's like hearing a loud dog barking incessantly late at night.
@katieandkevinsears7724
@katieandkevinsears7724 5 месяцев назад
Do you know who doesn't accidentally back their vehicle up when they want to go forward? People driving a manual tramsmission.
@GF-mf7ml
@GF-mf7ml 5 месяцев назад
My car have manual transmission and manual windows it's still running after 30 years 😂
@manoz6194
@manoz6194 5 месяцев назад
yeah there's a reason why you need to take an extra step to put the manual car in reverse
@peterscott2662
@peterscott2662 5 месяцев назад
With my MT, 1st and Reverse are next to each other, and I have selected 1st instead of reverse many time. Though a sober driver can easily stop as soon as it's obvious you aren't going in the right direction.
@misch2
@misch2 5 месяцев назад
I'm afraid this is not generally true. For example my old Skoda Fabia had 1st gear in standard forward left position but the reverse was in the same position too! You just had to push the shifter downwards to engage the reverse gear. Foolproof? Absolutely not. It wasn't difficult to accidentally press downwards when trying to get the first gear engaged. It happened to me multiple times. I hated this mechanism.
@CenturionKenshin
@CenturionKenshin 5 месяцев назад
@@misch2Had Fabia - great car, never had problem with this mechanism, maybe you had old spring there... Though on the late opel they have little triggerbutton you pull on the stick up, and it tends to stuck :) - old car, old spring, and you can turn reverse gear :) incidentally. Now I have another car with automat... and honest never understood logic to put PNRDM in this order, in my opinion R should be way on the side for clarity, but again all the problems when the gasket between steering wheel and the drivers seat starts to leak...
@DebbieOnTheSpot
@DebbieOnTheSpot 5 месяцев назад
Americans are so unaware of their surroundings. I miss 1990s America
@Walter-wo5sz
@Walter-wo5sz 5 месяцев назад
Amen. Even when driving people can't get off their phones. Kids at school bus stops wouldn't notice a herd of elephants going by. Music full blast and face in the phone.
@jeremyashford2145
@jeremyashford2145 5 месяцев назад
To the best of my knowledge it is not illegal to drive drunk on your own property, in case anyone wants to have a go about that.
@StacheDTraining
@StacheDTraining 5 месяцев назад
In Texas, it's still illegal, but PD won't be on your ranch. Either way, it can lead to certain death.
@crex8751
@crex8751 5 месяцев назад
This is sad to hear, but also, natural selection at work.
@ebaystars
@ebaystars 5 месяцев назад
what do you mean? - she selected the wrong "gear"
@jamessmyth5949
@jamessmyth5949 5 месяцев назад
She was 3 times over the legal limit but was still able to phone a friend and be coherent enough to tell them her exact location.
@StacheDTraining
@StacheDTraining 5 месяцев назад
She was just outside the house that he friends were in.
@jamessmyth5949
@jamessmyth5949 5 месяцев назад
​@@StacheDTraining That still raises more questions than answers. At that level of intoxication she would have been a rambling mess. The person at the end of the phone would make no sense of her talk. And it seems awful strange that her friend would allow her to drive away in that state.
@toomanyaccounts
@toomanyaccounts 5 месяцев назад
the death is being criminally investigated@@jamessmyth5949
@webreakforsquirrel4201
@webreakforsquirrel4201 5 месяцев назад
@@jamessmyth5949she was using the vehicle to go between other dwellings within the property. When you become a billionaire I doubt you will be walking 1/4 mile to one of your other houses and golf carts are uncomfortable and slow.
@JoeOvercoat
@JoeOvercoat 5 месяцев назад
@@webreakforsquirrel4201Which makes it more ridiculous that anyone would get behind the wheel, drunk, for such a short journey.
@BlacKnightRising
@BlacKnightRising 5 месяцев назад
How those junk piles aren't banned from the roads I can't figure out they're a downright Fire Hazzard. Not to mention u can't talk on ur phone but somehow u can stare at that big a s s screen in that stupid car, fancy that
@martentrudeau6948
@martentrudeau6948 5 месяцев назад
I don't understand why MFR's use laminated safety glass on the side windows? shouldn't they be breakable with a tool of some kind?
@theairstig9164
@theairstig9164 5 месяцев назад
It increases sound deadening. Mazda is a great user of multiple laminated layers on their windows to make a quiet interior
@StacheDTraining
@StacheDTraining 5 месяцев назад
Ejection mitigation regulations.
@mofayer
@mofayer 5 месяцев назад
All modern luxury cars use that. It's for sound deadening.
@renrutmat
@renrutmat 5 месяцев назад
Helps side airbags do their job possibly ?
@darrennew8211
@darrennew8211 5 месяцев назад
Keeps you from getting your throat cut by flying glass when someone runs the light and T-bones you.
@allangraham970
@allangraham970 5 месяцев назад
Quoating from wikipedias entry fir laminated glass Laminated glass is used for architecture, glazing, automobile safety, photovoltaic, UV protection, and artistic expression.[1] The most common use of laminated glass is automobile windshields and skylight glazing.
@tonysheerness2427
@tonysheerness2427 5 месяцев назад
You said any car could end up in the same situation, however you did point out that Tesla had shift stick problem and high torque. To go from drive to reverse and skipping neutral is a very bad design. No way should that be possible.
@darrennew8211
@darrennew8211 5 месяцев назад
The car won't shift if you're not stopped. (Or at least at < 3 MPH.) You literally can't shift into reverse going down the road.
@1035pm
@1035pm 5 месяцев назад
When ever I want to pull my car forward a few feet or backwards naturally I plant my foot through the floor panel and get the car up to top speed.
@Stainlessdude
@Stainlessdude 5 месяцев назад
Yes and if it’s going the wrong way try the other pedal 😂😂
@allangraham970
@allangraham970 5 месяцев назад
Drinking then driving when 3 times over the limit is likely in my opinion to be the cause of this accident. The car had the highest safety rating possible Laminated glass is commonly referred to as safety glass. It increases safety for side collisions
@JoeOvercoat
@JoeOvercoat 5 месяцев назад
If you’re trying to say that laminated glass [marginally] increases safety for side collisions so it is worth this woman’s death, that’s a fail. You might want to have yourself tested for Fan Boy Syndrome.
@tip0019
@tip0019 5 месяцев назад
Laminated glass is meant for sound proving. Nothing more. Nobody dies of safety glass and laminated glass does nothing to rigidity of the car in case accident 🙂
@barneyrubble9309
@barneyrubble9309 5 месяцев назад
Electrically operated doors are killers. Most dont read the manual as to where the manual override is hidden (and it is hidden and not in obvious locations) but why would you read about how to open a door right. A guy died in a Tesla fire cos he couldn't open the door nor could the rescuers.
@darrennew8211
@darrennew8211 5 месяцев назад
It depends on the model and which doors you're talking about. In a model S, it's just pulling the handle harder.
@RogowskiBubba0864
@RogowskiBubba0864 5 месяцев назад
Was it murder?
@deankdx
@deankdx 5 месяцев назад
what i noticed with the 2018 hyundai i30 i drove, (e throttle petrol car) it limited power or speed in reverse, i was trying to reverse up a very steep driveway and it was cutting power at times (annoying). surely a tesla should be aware of a pond behind it and try prevent this, or should it POP THE DOORS automatically if it senses it's been in an accident after a minute? the technology should be there to program such things.
@NoName-ik2du
@NoName-ik2du 5 месяцев назад
Teslas also significantly limit speed in reverse (since, if left ungoverned, electric vehicles can mechanically travel the same speed in reverse or forward due to the direct drivetrains). I feel like a pond would be a hard thing to program into a car's visual recognition software (especially because water is reflective and can look like literally anything). Opening the doors if an accident is detected sounds like a good idea, but I could also see that go catastrophically wrong (such as an accident on a busy highway where you may get struck again after the initial crash and could get ejected from the car if the doors are open). Though that wouldn't have helped in this case since water pressure forces car doors to stay shut as the car sinks.
@captainotto
@captainotto 5 месяцев назад
@@NoName-ik2du It's easy for us to forget that it's an accident and Murphys Law is already at play. Attempting to program countermeasures for specific scenarios is not only nearly impossible, but even attempting to do so is very likely to introduce bugs. The biggest bang for the buck is always to design and engineer manageability early and review often.
@deankdx
@deankdx 5 месяцев назад
@@captainottoand safer drivers, not affected by alcohol probably helps also
@JoeOvercoat
@JoeOvercoat 5 месяцев назад
@@NoName-ik2duIf you’re saying a Tesla’s vision system cannot recognize a water surface than that has greater implications than this one accident. I expect you are right, but think about that. Also realized they could put any number of sensors in these cars to make them realize they’re submerged, but they don’t. But then, they’re too cheap to put knobs & levers in the vehicle, so we have to lower our expectations.
@NoName-ik2du
@NoName-ik2du 5 месяцев назад
@@JoeOvercoat I can't see any scenario where you'd want a car to recognize water. Assuming the programmers figured out how to do it, almost all the situations that involve both water and a car are puddles. And those are things you drive through. It would be an absolute disaster if autonomous cars started slamming on their brakes every time they saw some wet ground. Also, I'm not sure water sensors would be useful. I'm not positive on this, but I would think all the low voltage systems on cars would stop working the moment the car touches the water, since those systems are grounded through the car body (once the body touches the water, it's grounded through that water and there go all your normal circuits). If my thinking is correct, then a sensor won't be able to help because your power windows and power door releases will not be functional in a car that's touching the water.
@ComeJesusChrist
@ComeJesusChrist 5 месяцев назад
Changing direction (gears) on a touch screen… What an awful, hideous and dangerous idea!
@dwayne7356
@dwayne7356 5 месяцев назад
I agree. The distance between forward and reverse on most car shifters is several inches, on a touch screen is what? The width of a finger? Coupled with instant torque?
@naturalroyalflush
@naturalroyalflush 5 месяцев назад
Wait, there’s more....the car automatically selects the gear. You override the selection using that idiotic touchscreen. No direction indicators either. Saw a car review absolutely panning these changes.
@gordo8189
@gordo8189 5 месяцев назад
Indeed, this could have happened to anyone (who was blind drunk), driving any vehicle (with a twitchy gear-shift and the acceleration of a Maserati in reverse). Let's not forget that Tesla cars are "ten times safer" than a human driver NOW!! If a $500 lawn-mowing robot can move around without driving into the garden pond.. Just sayin'
@JoeOvercoat
@JoeOvercoat 5 месяцев назад
That is the sales pitch.
@darrennew8211
@darrennew8211 5 месяцев назад
The hilarious thing is they're 10x safer than a human driver but only if there's also a human driver there.
@tqlla
@tqlla 5 месяцев назад
I dont understand how Tesla has so many dangerously designed items, and are allowed to go to production like that. IMO, the most egregious are the electronic doors. The doors should be designed for a person to be able to open them in an emergency, without any thinking. Try to figure out how to get out of the back of a Model 3 or Y using an emergency release. After so many years of people worrying about car crash safety, now they are fine with a car that will trap them in the car, if it catches fire
@dalececil7527
@dalececil7527 5 месяцев назад
All Teslas have a mechanical door release which is easily accessible, intuitive and works perfectly every time as it is directly connected to the latch via steel rods just like any other car. It’s up to us as owners to familiarize ourselves with our car’s safety features. Also, unintentional acceleration is and always has been a thing. We read all the time about someone crashing into a store or a garage when they were absolutely positive they were pressing the brake pedal. Investigation always proves that they were pushing the accelerator and the harder they pressed the faster it went. The human mind is not perfect.
@littlejimmy7402
@littlejimmy7402 5 месяцев назад
A lot of people get 'locked in' electric cars when the power suddenly goes out. These cars should fail safe instead of becoming a potential tomb.
@KaosNova2
@KaosNova2 5 месяцев назад
Why not just have a manual door system like other vehicles do?
@littlejimmy7402
@littlejimmy7402 5 месяцев назад
@@KaosNova2 There are so many good lessons that have been learned over the last century or so that 'modern' technology has forgotten in the name of marketing.
@Neojhun
@Neojhun 4 месяца назад
@@KaosNova2 Which old Model X does have normal pull handles on the front doors. These are false fear mongering rumors. You just have mechanical doors in the front.
@Neojhun
@Neojhun 4 месяца назад
@@littlejimmy7402 Stop pushing misinformation. Front doors on Model X just have passive mechanical door pulls.
@littlejimmy7402
@littlejimmy7402 4 месяца назад
@@Neojhun So one Tesla model? I've seen people get stuck in 'electric cars', good thing 1 Tesla model has normal doors.
@Simon_W74
@Simon_W74 5 месяцев назад
There is something to be said about the insanity of Car Manufactures and their push to remove nearly all physical controls and place them in a screen. Which distracts drives more than it should and are as dangerous as using a Mobile to text. If the car had keep fit windows this kind of thing would be less common, as you can if your not panicking out of your mind, at least wind the window down and equalist the pressure and open the door or just swim out of the window. The More technology that going into modern cars them more I want to drive a Classic, where things were less distracting. Not having to go into a screen to change heater setting or things like that, which were dials, sliders or good old buttons. You didn't need a computer to try and tell you what was wrong with your car and replace parts in the hope of fixing a problem like a lot of modern cars.
@darrennew8211
@darrennew8211 5 месяцев назад
On the other hand, if you're shifting from drive to reverse when you're rolling down the road at speed, you're doing things wrong. Heaters, yah. I think a lot of the stuff that's touch controls on a Tesla can be voice controlled too.
@Simon_W74
@Simon_W74 5 месяцев назад
@@darrennew8211 or your sat in a car that is the opposite to what your used to driving. Then you do try to change gear with the window winder. Know plenty of people that have done that. You only tend to find out when you have done it yourself and old enough to have most cars on that had keep fit windows.
@darrennew8211
@darrennew8211 5 месяцев назад
@@Simon_W74 I wasn't really talking about a manual transmission. :-)
@darrennew8211
@darrennew8211 5 месяцев назад
@@Simon_W74 I wasn't really talking about a manual transmission. I can't imagine the disaster I would be trying to drive stick shift on the wrong side of the road.
@N1withaskillet
@N1withaskillet 5 месяцев назад
Sorry, but being x3 over the legal limit, jumping into a car, and smashing the throttle in R until you are underwater is not something that 'could happen to anyone.' Leaving alcoholism aside, many vehicles have an auditory beep for reverse or some other physical indicator to prevent this exact situation.
@jensbomholt4529
@jensbomholt4529 5 месяцев назад
Could not have happened in a Ford model T. Engineering has evolved backwards since then.
@michaeld5888
@michaeld5888 5 месяцев назад
Replacing those trusty rods and cables with lines of buggy software code, especially as it will not work at all well under water, is not really in any way going to make life safer.
@bdb3350
@bdb3350 5 месяцев назад
The real tragedy is 99.999% of vehicle fatalities go unacknowledged. Getting even simple safety fixes done like a traffic control device gets buried in red tape or legal fees. The exception to that fact is when the "victim" is wealthy or connected to powerful people then, and only then does sh!t finally gets done.
@AndrewTSq
@AndrewTSq 5 месяцев назад
oh this is terrible to hear :( RIP. It also wierd that you put in reverse by pushing the gear lever, I always have it the other way around when driving cargames with my wheel setup. Forward to gear up.
@paul-br2fs
@paul-br2fs 5 месяцев назад
i would like to know the breakdown in % of cars that went into water how many were old type crank windows with safety glass to modern electrical with laminated and has there been a significant increased death rate for making cars harder to break into
@scanadaze
@scanadaze 5 месяцев назад
I carry an ice pick hammer. Hammer design to keep my hand hopefully away from broken glass. Yet. I keep forgetting to carry a seat belt cutter.
@daviddaw999
@daviddaw999 5 месяцев назад
I don't think that this kind of incident could have happened to anybody in any type of vehicle. I doubt whether it would happen to me, because I never drink alcohol when I am in charge of a motor vehicle.
@jjamespacbell
@jjamespacbell 5 месяцев назад
The issue was the driver was Drunk 3 times the legal limit.
@padgaprao2617
@padgaprao2617 5 месяцев назад
Any update on blood alcohol level ? 10k cars per year in water ! Driving skills need to be considered with this ridiculous number
@aliendroneservices6621
@aliendroneservices6621 5 месяцев назад
4:29 4:37 Forbes: "A toxicology screening ordered as part of the investigation into the Feb. 10 crash in Texas found Chao had a *_blood alcohol level of .233,_* about triple the state's legal driving limit of .08, the Austin American-Statesman first reported."
@StacheDTraining
@StacheDTraining 5 месяцев назад
0.233, stated towards the end of the video.
@padgaprao2617
@padgaprao2617 5 месяцев назад
@@StacheDTraining in that case it’s a great outcome that no innocent rescuers or other people were killed or injured as a result of one persons selfish actions
@leunam3434
@leunam3434 5 месяцев назад
A very suspicious accident if you know the background story.
@DM-ki1bs
@DM-ki1bs 5 месяцев назад
As I commented I found this suspicious.
@JoeOvercoat
@JoeOvercoat 5 месяцев назад
including the story that she was moving the vehicle from one location to another, which seems unlikely.
@2packs4sure
@2packs4sure 5 месяцев назад
I'm not buying that pressure on the door from the lake water thing at all and I'd be willing to bet money she had no idea how to unlatch that door with the emergency latch. Drunk or sober.. I have a neighbor with a Tesla,,, talked into it by her son,, and I asked her son if she had been informed about that emergency door latch and he said absolutely she had,, then I talked to her weeks later and she had no freaking idea what I was talking about and had no idea how to get out of the car with with that emergency latch... She does now...
@JoeOvercoat
@JoeOvercoat 5 месяцев назад
Please do explain to that neighbor that you need to open the door before the car door is fully submerged or you’re going have to be Hercules to get it open because of the water pressure. That’s a fact.
@Im_Not_From_Around_Here
@Im_Not_From_Around_Here 5 месяцев назад
Moral of the story is to wind your windows down before reversing near bodies of water.
@starlite2092
@starlite2092 5 месяцев назад
In Tesla you can also use positive pressure to float. Its a saftey device they didnt talk about called positive pressure. You are supposed to fart before submerging the vehicle. That creates a positive pressure of air to float and esure passanger safety.
@BearsTrains
@BearsTrains 5 месяцев назад
As long as you don't follow through......
@MrDschubba
@MrDschubba 5 месяцев назад
In reverse, the inertia of your body as the car accelerates tends to press the ‘gas’ pedal harder. Can end up going faster than intended.
@surf2257
@surf2257 5 месяцев назад
she was drunk also
@innovokd
@innovokd 5 месяцев назад
What a hearthwarming story, a tesla and a billionaire in one shot
@Walter-wo5sz
@Walter-wo5sz 5 месяцев назад
I read somewhere that water pressure will also keep manual car windows from rolling down. You have to wait until the car is flooded to open them.
@Veeger
@Veeger 5 месяцев назад
Not true. Thinking that will kill you. Opening the window will let water in when at the level of the window but will give you a hole to escape through . In fact you could possibly climb out of the window before your vehicle sinks. Having to hold your breath whilst you wait for the vehicle to sink and then having to open the window , then successfully escape through the window, is much more likely you drown. Not everyone is good at holding their breath whilst panicking. Being in an EV is problematic if the power has failed and the windows can't open. Your only way out is breaking a window and by hoping that tesla didn't use laminated glass on the doors windows ,which you will NEVER get through.
@deniswauchope3788
@deniswauchope3788 5 месяцев назад
Even though she was drunk, she'd probably have been OK if she'd had a normal car with normal shifter & brakes. Being in an EV was fatal for her since probably the high torque & the insane shifter got her into this mess.
@williamchow7533
@williamchow7533 5 месяцев назад
Fully agree. Conventions exist for good reasons. Deviate from conventions and you risk mishaps. Tesla isn’t the only offender in this regard. I remember getting a call from a niece who couldn’t move her dad’s Mercedes. I knew right away. It was the foot activated parking brake.
@katieberos1347
@katieberos1347 5 месяцев назад
Turns us off ever purchasing or driving an electric car. Dear soul had to go through this ordeal for us to all see how dangerous they are.
@Neojhun
@Neojhun 4 месяца назад
Stop with the lies and absurd nonsense. She had 0.233 Blood Alcohol Content. For a slender Asian woman that's blotto drunk.
@EllieMaes-Grandad
@EllieMaes-Grandad 5 месяцев назад
Driving stick-shift cars for over fifty years, I never once reversed into a pond. I drove an automatic car from San Fran to Washington DC and didn't get my feet wet on that trip . . .
@jblackjack
@jblackjack 5 месяцев назад
I won’t buy a car that doesn’t have a physical radio volume knob or a physical pull e-brake ( not electronically or foot controlled ). Edit: my choices are getting slim to none. How my current 2016 lasts a long time .
@Veeger
@Veeger 5 месяцев назад
Having watched a few of Adventure with Purpose vids , it blows my mind that so many cars go off the road in the US and end up in water deep enough to disappear and not be found for years. Most have people still in them. In the UK we have crash barriers to prevent that. The US doesn't seem to bother. I guess no one makes any money out of it? I always like to park so I can just get in , start engine , and pull away from the parking space. I notice most women drivers do not do that. They drive into a space, then have to reverse out when they leave. Sometimes it means maybe condensation on windows making it difficult to see, it might be dark, or you end up having to reverse into a road. It's a small thing but it can make a difference. I think this lady would have been better off if she'd have done this.
@lookman7047
@lookman7047 5 месяцев назад
I once saw experts showing how to escape from a sinking vehicle. We need to train ourselves to press all the open window switches should our vehicle somehow end up in water. The electric windows should still work until the battery or the actuator gets submerged. Then release our seat belts and try to climb out of the sinking vehicle through the opened windows.
@Peter-pv8xx
@Peter-pv8xx 5 месяцев назад
You don't need to make a vehicle go fast in reverse, unless you're a stunt driver perhaps, the rear speed I'm sure can be governed through the computer, this use of screens to control everything is ludicrous, talk about distracted driving, some people have problems shifting the normal way with a shift lever, personally i prefer an old fashioned column shifter like in my 2001 LeSabre, there's more room in front and i don't keep banging my elbow on the damn console.
@AJB2K3
@AJB2K3 5 месяцев назад
PEBCAC - Problem exists between controls and chair
@Neojhun
@Neojhun 4 месяца назад
It was 0.233 Blood Alcohol Content.
@SteveBueche1027
@SteveBueche1027 5 месяцев назад
If she would have pulled the emergency door opener next to the door pull, she’d be fine. It automatically drops the window and opens the door.
@COTH23
@COTH23 4 месяца назад
@Neojhun it is not absurd nonsense. A person does not have to be drunk in order for things to go wrong in a Tesla. There are other ways in which to be trapped in a Tesla besides this particular tragedy. However, whatever the condition of the driver, you can rest assured that the statements below are always in play with a Tesla. The laminated glass makes it nearly/most likely impossible to escape or to be rescued in a timely manner; whether the attempt to break it is from the inside or outside. Rescue crews would have to use an electric saw; if they have one on hand at that very moment, in order to make an escape through the laminated glass. This is not good because every second counts in an emergency. If the driver door cannot be opened from the inside via the manual release, then the emergency responders do not have a regular door handle with a built-in latch to grab onto and open the door or any of the other doors for that matter. Firefighters have reported this very experience when trying to rescue someone from a Tesla. There is not a manual release for the passenger side door or the backseat doors. If the driver is able to manually open the driver door, then they would have to drag any other occupants out through the driver door; because the other doors will not open when the electrification is inoperable. If the car is smoking and on fire or submerged in water, then this only complicates everything in the most serious ways . The car is literally a death trap waiting to happen. Oh, but wait, there is a tax credit for all this trouble.
@offshoretinker
@offshoretinker 5 месяцев назад
She was apparently 3 times over the drink drive limit.
@Neojhun
@Neojhun 4 месяца назад
0.233 BAC specifically, that's rough for a slender asian woman.
@MarcusFreeman-n7p
@MarcusFreeman-n7p 5 месяцев назад
Well that is one way to fix stupid ...
@fountainvalley100
@fountainvalley100 5 месяцев назад
I’m guessing a portable hydraulic spreader isn’t available. Seems like just letting a hydraulic spreader or cutter open the car would be the way to go.
@bruceg1845
@bruceg1845 5 месяцев назад
does this explain M O 's questionable allegiences?
@MadIIMike
@MadIIMike 5 месяцев назад
I wouldn't say it's Tesla's fault in particular, but the tendency of having increasing levels of power in road vehicles and the instantaneous application by EVs were never a good thing from a safety perspective. I wonder: If you were to select the wrong gear in a high powered EV, your body would unexpectedly move forward as if you were pushed (or hit the brakes from a high speed), could it be a reflex to push the pedal further to stabilize yourself, rather than brake? What sounded weird to me was, that she apparently drove into the pond from a parking lot of a ranch. However, the rescue effort sounded very unenthusiastic/bad. Let's assume someone who I wouldn't want to drown is trapped in a car sinking into a pond, then obviously going there I'd most likely be in a car to begin with nor would I expect a american ranch to be lacking in all sorts of vehicles. The next step would be to connect something to said vehicle to pull it out. Maybe I'm mistaken about the kind of ranch or the mental state of those trying to help, but you would expect some kind of reasonably durable rope to be found on a ranch. On another note, I'd suspect the Model X to be sinking Nose-First, with water getting into the "frunk" and then making it's way trough the ventilation system. As far as it's admittedly ugly design goes, it does have a large tailgate similar to coupes/hatchbacks/estates. *If* it has a means to manually open it from the outside even when the vehicle is dead, then that would also have been viable to do for the first on the scene.
@blackscotydog
@blackscotydog 5 месяцев назад
The best way to get out of a tesla is to not get in one EVER.
@DM-ki1bs
@DM-ki1bs 5 месяцев назад
The best way to get out of an electric car is to give it back to your 4 year old Grandson.
@aperitifs
@aperitifs 5 месяцев назад
Her blood alcohol was way over the limit.. new cars should sample alcohol content in the driver via HVAC air samples. The car could drive them home with full self driving for a billionaire..
@dammitdad
@dammitdad 5 месяцев назад
U8 suv has float mode.
@joshua8883
@joshua8883 5 месяцев назад
With a BAC of 0.233 she shouldn't have been driving in the first place.
@JoeOvercoat
@JoeOvercoat 5 месяцев назад
3:50 Show me the schematics, because I certainly don’t believe it just because it says so in a Tesla manual. I understand what you’re saying about an isolated system, and I can imagine ways to disable the power, but I can also imagine a lot more ways that it goes sideways.
@JUNGLEISMASSIVE.
@JUNGLEISMASSIVE. 5 месяцев назад
This is great content .
@GF-mf7ml
@GF-mf7ml 5 месяцев назад
I'll never buy car's without conventional shifter and setting. I don't want my family driving dangerous car.
@linanicolia1363
@linanicolia1363 5 месяцев назад
The victim has 3 times the alcohol limit in her blood. Too drunk to tell if she was in reverse or going forward. Likely either way she was going with the "fishes"......
@AllSeeingHeart
@AllSeeingHeart 5 месяцев назад
So the Tesla vehicle is not an amphibian? I didn't know. If I ever afford to buy one [which I never would anyway lol] I will keep that in mind, as well as all the other warnings this channel afforded me brain - such as keeping a seat belt cutter and glass breaker in my tool kit should I ever be trapped inside one, should it crash. I'll never be in one anyway, but just in case a concerned person is reading this text, also pack a fire extinguisher. Strength! GODspeed!
@mothMagnets
@mothMagnets 5 месяцев назад
According to Musk they where meant to be able to fly
@AllSeeingHeart
@AllSeeingHeart 5 месяцев назад
@@mothMagnets 'they' do, over medians lol. Strength! GODspeed!
@andrewnevermind4902
@andrewnevermind4902 5 месяцев назад
Insurers are in the process of changing their systems to account for touch screens and their ridiculousness.
@christopherderasmo5041
@christopherderasmo5041 5 месяцев назад
4:38 So basically a person drunk AF trued to drive and ended up killing themselves instead of someone else.
@rocklarsen228
@rocklarsen228 21 день назад
She was going to drive form the guest house to the main house on her own property, so wasn’t going on public roads
@jeremyashford2145
@jeremyashford2145 5 месяцев назад
4:00 or there abouts. "... pulled her from the water," or pulled her from the car, or both?
@StacheDTraining
@StacheDTraining 5 месяцев назад
Technically, both. There are conflicting reports on how she was removed from the water.
@onceagain77
@onceagain77 5 месяцев назад
Death traps.
@michael.randall5034
@michael.randall5034 5 месяцев назад
Hi I just wish to endorse the comment below which I though of before I saw it. How stupid to have such a "micky mouse" gear shift and even worse to have it as a touch screen option. With a proper gearshift, a clutch and a handbrake as in a proper car this would not happen.
@richrigney4610
@richrigney4610 5 месяцев назад
It's actually Not impossible to open a door of a car that goes into the Water. It's a matter of pressure equalization.
@Veeger
@Veeger 5 месяцев назад
You just need a high pressure jack to open the door then? You wont be opening it with the arms you have with you at the time. You would also drown, in panic.
@ryandoyle4344
@ryandoyle4344 5 месяцев назад
Tesla FUD, one of the subjects that the media will be consistent about.
@Neojhun
@Neojhun 4 месяца назад
Even worse she had 0.233 Blood Alcohol Content for a slender asian woman. They still want to blame the car.
@mouse8523
@mouse8523 5 месяцев назад
Mitch MCCONNELL wife!!! Her ship just hit Baltimore bridge !! Interesting
@Neojhun
@Neojhun 4 месяца назад
Stop with misinformation, I have deep disdain for these politicians. But Foremost Group is a COMPETITOR to the operator of MV Dali. Chao Family are NOT involved with that ship.
@springer-qb4dv
@springer-qb4dv 5 месяцев назад
"The fact that Angela Chao was in Tesla is irrelevant". Really? What about that lousy touch screen gear shift? Wha about powerful instant acceleration? How about the hidden manual latch? Although you say that you can't open the door inside submerged car, that's not true. You CAN open the door after the car has nearly filled with water, equalizing the pressure. You should know better as a professional emergency responder.
@StacheDTraining
@StacheDTraining 5 месяцев назад
By the time the pressure in the vehicle reaches equilibrium, the average person would be unconscious.
@ettcha
@ettcha 5 месяцев назад
- She was in an older model with a stalk shifter - The model X has no official posted figures but has been observed by owners to be limited in reverse like most cars - The front manual latch is integrated in design but it is not hidden like the rear doors. Lack of knowledge, impairment or the high stress of the situation could have been a factor. Either way, owners need to learn such features for their car. - Doors do become easier to open the closer the pressure is to equalising, but without knowing or having the state of mind to recall that fact, she may not have tried again at that point.
@blxtothis
@blxtothis 5 месяцев назад
Awful and tragic but the equation of Drunk + EV + Water = Disaster rings horribly true. Tesla have to be sued for the absolutely criminal fashion in which they approach the design of their controls, let alone the absolutely awful quality control and failure rate of components that owners have reported. Timon shifting controls on a touchscreen? It was bad enough to mount=t what looks like a wiper or indicator control on the steering column but this idea should never have taken to the water, so to speak!
@TNT-projects
@TNT-projects 5 месяцев назад
Automatics are dangerous enough, electric cars more because you don’t know they ore on until you press the pedal. And the excessive acceleration
@linanicolia1363
@linanicolia1363 5 месяцев назад
Drunk people should not drive electric cars. She was seriously drunk.
@alexalex13131
@alexalex13131 5 месяцев назад
The excessive acceleration is desirable if you're a teenager or have a teenager's maturity.
@lauralauren6432
@lauralauren6432 5 месяцев назад
Such BULLOCKS. Too short wire. Well they have extra wires.
@mariolarouche5318
@mariolarouche5318 5 месяцев назад
two big factors: Woman driver, Drunk
@mouse8523
@mouse8523 5 месяцев назад
Mitch McConnell!! Funny her ship just hit a bridge !!!!!!!!!!
@Neojhun
@Neojhun 4 месяца назад
Stop with misinformation, I have deep disdain for these politicians. But Foremost Group is a COMPETITOR to the operator of MV Dali. Chao Family are NOT involved with that ship.
@dmclegg66
@dmclegg66 5 месяцев назад
I carry a seat belt cutter and window smasher in my door frame and good old tempered glass My newest car is from 2007 I would never get a car with electric door latches I'm working on a 1951 fro my daily driver no thanks Tesla.
@ronpd1982
@ronpd1982 5 месяцев назад
.233 unreal level...
@HellRainGod
@HellRainGod 5 месяцев назад
10,000 in the water🤔how are they all getting into the situations?, ev's are horrible, be as well go back to horse and cart...
@scanadaze
@scanadaze 5 месяцев назад
Oh boy. I should have watched your video all the way. Before saying anything. Their new style glass is not funny.
@jamesamber6009
@jamesamber6009 5 месяцев назад
Tesla's shifter is designed So Stupid.
@StacheDTraining
@StacheDTraining 5 месяцев назад
Same can be said for most modern vehicles.
@Neojhun
@Neojhun 4 месяца назад
It's just the MERCEDES steering columb shifter. FYI Daimler use to own a stake in Tesla. I'm very use to it on the Model S.
@COTH23
@COTH23 5 месяцев назад
The way to get out of a Tesla is to never get into one to begin with.
@JadeOthen
@JadeOthen 5 месяцев назад
amen
@Neojhun
@Neojhun 4 месяца назад
Stop with the absurd nosense. Don't be in the DRIVER Seat with 0.233 Blood Alcohol Content.
@COTH23
@COTH23 4 месяца назад
@@Neojhun it is not absurd nonsense. A person does not have to be drunk in order for things to go wrong in a Tesla. There are other ways in which to be trapped in a Tesla besides this particular tragedy. However, whatever the condition of the driver, you can rest assured that the statements below are always in play with a Tesla. The laminated glass makes it nearly/most likely impossible to escape or to be rescued in a timely manner; whether the attempt to break it is from the inside or outside. Rescue crews would have to use an electric saw; if they have one on hand at that very moment, in order to make an escape through the laminated glass. This is not good because every second counts in an emergency. If the driver door cannot be opened from the inside via the manual release, then the emergency responders do not have a regular door handle with a built-in latch to grab onto and open the door or any of the other doors for that matter. Firefighters have reported this very experience when trying to rescue someone from a Tesla. There is not a manual release for the passenger side door or the backseat doors. If the driver is able to manually open the driver door, then they would have to drag any other occupants out through the driver door; because the other doors will not open when the electrification is inoperable. If the car is smoking and on fire or submerged in water, then this only complicates everything in the most serious ways . The car is literally a death trap waiting to happen. Oh, but wait, there is a tax credit for all this trouble.
@casperhansen826
@casperhansen826 5 месяцев назад
Darwin award
@charlestoast4051
@charlestoast4051 5 месяцев назад
Let's hope her family sue the heck out of Tesla.
@greebo7857
@greebo7857 5 месяцев назад
Why? She was shitfaced. Not Tesla's fault.
@tomparker5000
@tomparker5000 5 месяцев назад
​@@greebo7857 full self driving powered by ethanol. Elon truly knows more about manufacturing than anyone else alive on earth currently
@linanicolia1363
@linanicolia1363 5 месяцев назад
She was drunk ! she should never have gotten in that car. She can sue her friends who let her get in that car.
@aliendroneservices6621
@aliendroneservices6621 5 месяцев назад
​@@greebo7857I think she would have lived if she'd been in *_my_* car (2016 Prius c, which features an old-fashioned Corolla-type PRNDL shifter and an electronically-limited back-up speed).
@stephenshelton4267
@stephenshelton4267 5 месяцев назад
@greebo7857 In the banana republic of the USA, the fault always lies with the party with the deepest pockets.
@mathewmclean9128
@mathewmclean9128 5 месяцев назад
I wonder what song she was listening to at the time, my guess was either a song from Air Supply or Under the Sea. Either way, I'm fairly confident that she was listening to the same music that they were listening to on the Titan sub when it imploded.
@freedomfighter5095
@freedomfighter5095 5 месяцев назад
Wet work.
@anotheryoutubechannel4809
@anotheryoutubechannel4809 5 месяцев назад
FUD
@JohnJames0204
@JohnJames0204 5 месяцев назад
I agree with most of your points, except your video falls apart at 4:46 . My dude, you even said it yourself, "electric vehicle has high amount of torque" and later on "there's a risk of electrocution due to the high voltage battery", yet you said it being an electric vehicle is irrelevant. Damn son, how much you're getting paid to shill for this video, lol.
@StacheDTraining
@StacheDTraining 5 месяцев назад
Based on comments in other videos, the same amount the oil industry pays me. 😉
@springer-qb4dv
@springer-qb4dv 5 месяцев назад
@@StacheDTrainingAs a professional first responder, you should know better. 1) EVs high torque is dangerous. 2) Tesla on screen gear shift is bad idea. 3) Tesla manual door latches are hidden. All bad features of a badly designed product that can trap unaware person
@rawbacon
@rawbacon 5 месяцев назад
Another Drunken Drowning.
@sculptus5708
@sculptus5708 5 месяцев назад
A billionaire that can't afford a good ICE vehicle!😂
@webreakforsquirrel4201
@webreakforsquirrel4201 5 месяцев назад
You just need a shofar or in this case hire an uber or lift driver 24/7.
@georgecupac1202
@georgecupac1202 5 месяцев назад
Yeah, no thanks.
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