My heart hurt watching Greg realize what has happened to what he has believed for so long. What a gracious and honest man and I pray he finds the peace and truth of the Word of God.
What spiritual devastation Greg is going through. We should be compassionate toward this man. None of us have all the answers or understanding about our relationship with Jesus. His belief about Jesus has just been shattered. It will take him time to process what it all means. Pray for this brother!
A couple hour conversation doesn’t unravel a lifetime of belief and devotion. We are not robots, we’re humans. While logic and reason informs our decisions, we are, at the core of us, emotional beings. I want to believe this man turned from his path of destruction. But, I doubt he did. I think he probably doubled-down and found ways to rationalize the “truth” of Mormonism.
@@67L48 once a man sees the Truth. He can deny in his heart as much as he wants but the Truth will always prevail. The Word of God will ALWAYS prevail.
Greg seems like a genuinely sweet and thoughtful man. He's unusually honest with himself, and just watching him going through this is painful, but I pray it touched his heart and God used it to change his life forever. Bless his heart.
My heart goes out to Greg. As a Christian I can not imagine being in his position and having your faith completely discredited. He grew up in the Mormon religion so he didn’t know better than to wholeheartedly believe what he was taught. I hope his life is richer having learned THE TRUTH.
It is striking that each of us is lead to feel compassion and love towards Greg. He seems like us, he seems to want to do what is right before God, but he has to overcome the lies he was taught as a child. It should open our own eyes to some of the lies being taught in our own churches. For we are not perfect in our doctrine when we divide by domination, I cannot say that I am of Paul, or you are of Peter and be righteous... Rather we must be one faith... I could go on, but I do not want to take away from this video as it is based in truth.
I'm in the process of leaving the church at the ripe old age of 17, right around the time everyone starts asking me about my mission. I meet with my bishop tomorrow to talk about this stuff and this video provides, by far, the best and most comprehensive case against Joseph Smith I've seen thus far. It provides lots of evidence for the things that I have been feeling as I learn more about church history and the contradictions the LDS scripture has with the bible. Thank you for this. The Bible is beautiful and I have accepted it as the word of God, uncorrupted, and for that I praise the Lord Jesus, my God.
Hello friend. How did this go? Have you broke away yet? Hope you are well and strong in Christ and The Truth. Don't lose faith in God, just the false teachings. God will walk with you as he has given you discernment with The Spirit to know in your soul that something is wrong with these heresies.
What a raw and beautiful testimony of how Jesus Christ of the Holy Bible revealed Himself to you and removed you from the deception within Mormonism! Keep going! Angels of God are cheering for you in heaven :)
I say this with all due respect because I really don't like arguing, but unfortunately this video is intellectually dishonest. With regard to the loss of plain and precious truths that were lost after the apostles, he fails to there were no New Testament books in the Dead Sea Scrolls, so you can't look to the dead sea scrolls for evidence of corruption AFTER the apostles among a group of texts that were all written BEFORE the apostles. He's being blatantly dishonest. With regard to the prophesy that Jesus will be born at Jerusalem, Alma was speaking to people in the Americas in the first century AD, more than 500 years after Lehi left Jerusalem. In other words, he is speaking to a group of people who have absolutely no concept of Israeli geography. Of course, no one that lived in Israel would have conflated Jerusalem and Bethlehem; they knew the geography well. But for people who knew nothing of Israeli geography, they would have no idea what Bethlehem is. In all likelihood, they only knew that their ancestors came from Jerusalem, so saying Jesus will be born in Jerusalem was about as specific as Alma could have been with them. Again, its an intellectually dishonest argument. As for lack of historical copies of the Book of Mormon, of course there aren't. God wants us to rely on the witness of his Spirit over the work of mortal archeologists. That's why Jeremiah said "Cursed is the one who trusts in man, who depends on flesh for his strength and whose heart turns away from the LORD." Jer. 17:6. Even with all the copies of the New Testament we have, it only proves that people believed in Jesus. None of it proves the Lord actually walked on water or healed the sick, those books only prove that other people believed it. For us to believe it, we have to go by the witness of the Spirit, same as we do with the Book of Mormon. And that same Spirit that testifies that the Bible is true also testifies that the Book of Mormon is true.
🌱😀🌱 Iron sharpens Iron Hidden Message in the Torah /Tanak / Bible Hidden within within the genealogy first Sons from Adam. Genesis 5 : 3-32 NAMES ---- Name MEANINGS Adam - Man Seth - Appointed Enos - Mortal Cainan - Sarrow Mahalaleel - Blessed GOD Jared - Shall come Down Enoch - Teaching Methuselah -His Death shall Bring Lamech -To Make /Low Mighity Noah -Rest / Favor / Fulfilled Name Meanings written in a Sentence 😳 Man appointed mortal Sarrow Blessed GOD shall come down teaching His death shall bring to make low/MIGHTY , rest favor FULFILLED My Interpretation: Jesus given a task to preform from this earth feeling of deep distress BLESSED GOD shall come down as Jesus teaching Jew as a Rabbi His death shall bring SALVATION to make low to hang on a tree becomes MIGHTY rest/ favor/ FULFILLED HIS Purpose 🤔 Keep this in mind 🤔all 10 generations timeline took place up to chapter 5 of Genesis ,Hidden Message telling Jesus COMING 😲 Approximately 4 thousand years later be fore it HAPPENED only God Ten Trillion people could not gotten together and had have written 1 fact and placed it in a book Foretelling of there coming Christ 4K years before it Happened Who is He ? Choose you this day whom you SERVE 🤔✝️😇😇 Jesus Loves You Believe ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST You are BORN AGAIN I
His humility and courage are commendable, for him to participate in a patient, good-faith debate questioning his generational beliefs. Truly respectable.
Guys, Salvation is Very Simple HalleluYAH translates “Praise ye YaH” YaH is The Heavenly Father YaH arrives via the TENT OF MEETING YaH was Who they Crucified for our sins ** NO FEMALE INVOLVED WHATSOEVER ** - Hebrew Book of Isaiah (The Original Isaiah) Isaiah 42:8 "I am YaH; that is my Name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols. Isaiah 43:11 I, I am YAH, and there is no other Savior but Me. Isaiah 45:5 I am YaH, and there is none else.
Thank you for being gentle with the Mormon guy. Having come out of a cult myself, it is extremely distressing to be awakened to the truth of Christ/bible. My heart was going out to hime as I watched this podcast.
Hey Wendy, I’m glad you got out of whatever cult you were in and found Jesus. Truly, it’s so painful to face new ideas and changes, even when for the better. I myself a member of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and am happier than I’ve ever been. Personally, through my own research, prayer, fasting and striving to grow closer to God have come to find it as the place that draws me nearest to my savior and Lord Jesus. Anyway, I just wanted to comment to thank you for your love and compassion. Regardless of our differences in beliefs, I am always touched by the love that drives many of my other Christian brothers and sisters to approach me and others in an attempt to show us that which has brought them so much joy. Anyway, God bless you Wendy
@@Clayson000 you seem like a very happy guy Clayson. If you want to get technical, Latter-Day Saints aren’t traditional Christians. We aren’t creedal Christians either. But we are restorationist Christians. We believe in Jesus Christ (God the Son), God the Father, and the Spirit. We believe in the Bible (I’m partial to theNASB translation), and many of the same basic and general teachings. That said, we do differ in some pretty big ways in a handful of fundamental teachings. It’s something worth discussing with an open mind, though I’m not sure if a RU-vid comment section is the best place
@anthonyterry2896 Who is God and what was God before he came to govern over this world. Also who is jesus and who is satan, and how are they related. I am fine conversing over a comments section
It is heart wrenching to watch Greg wrestle with this. I was raised Mormon and I know the feelings he is experiencing. Please, everyone, we need to pray earnestly for Greg. He is clearly open. Christ is knocking on his door. What a victory it would be to see Greg become a brother in Christ!
I felt the same as you and so many about the struggle Greg was going through. I could see God touching his heart and I fully believe Greg will come to believe and understand that God's word is the true word. I believe the Holy Spirit will continue to work in his heart and he will find his way to the Truth and accept Jesus into his heart.
The remnant pieces that he is claiming are found in caves in Jerusalem are cartoons and not the originals and it just shows them walking in a dirt cave which does not really show evidence and when I was a Mormon I remember them teaching me that the discrepancies in the Bible happened with King James when he got all the religions together and made them agree on a single Bible so they had to change it to be agreeable with everyone to King James liking. This is just some things I'm noticing. I also noticed that the Mormon he is interviewing is probably a common lay Mormon who hasn't studied a lot about the Bible the book of Mormon or the Mormon religion itself he probably just goes to church every Sunday and reads the scriptures sometimes.
@@carmelahearle957 you were taught a half truth. Whilst King James wanted a translation from the originals to divert power from Rome and to solidify his own, he ironically put the hands of the Bible into the common man and allowed the peasant (if they were literate) to read the Scriptures which previously was almost impossible as it was reserved for clergy and exclusively in Latin and not English. The Bible was previously only Latin reproductions of the Latin Bible.
I am from Singapore. I am nearing 50, but in my teenage days when I have not yet dedicated my life to Christ, I was introduced to the LDS church here in Singapore. I thank God that while in that first meeting, something in my heart caused me to feel troubled. So troubled I was that I wanted to bolt out the door in an instant if not for my friend holding me back. After that day I told myself that I am never going back to that church. I soon found God a few years later and had been thankful ever since to know that one God that had remained true. I pray that Greg will find courage to walk out and be free.
It's like many Roman Catholics don't pray to Mary nor do they believe that the Pope is infallible... But ideally they should leave, there are other truthful options.
Born Mormon, served a mission… all that none sense! Today I am a saved Christian resting in the finished work of Christ. I often wonder why the Lord has saved my soul and brought me out of those lies, lies that were instilled in me since I was a child. Glory to God, the eternal, uncreated, holy God of the Bible.
Perhaps because God knows the very heart of you and that you would follow Jesus. You have obviously done this, praise God, dear brother. Your words show that you are humble in our Lord, as well. Only those who speak as you have spoken, here, are humble.
Once again I would caution and warn against any Denomination or other religion other than Judimaism and Christianity. Even Christians need to be warned not to stray from support of Judaism. They are Prophetically connected and must be protective of each other or face separation from ALMIGHTY GOD'S FAVOR
Proverbs 20:5 "Counsel in the heart of man is like deep water, but a man of understanding will draw it out." This was done so respectfully and graciously.
You can try to win an argument to destroy someone, or you can try to win an argument by being gentle, humble, loving, and win that person over to the Lord, and that's exactly what he's doing here, the work of the Lord!
Or you can win an argument by finding someone with little knowledge of the subject and then brow-beating him with propaganda and lies, like was done here
I am a Christian and studied the Bible often. After many years I happened to read Psalm 22 and broke down in tears that King David himself prophesized the Crucifiction of Jesus, hundreds of years BC.
Dr. Kipp Davis is a Hebrew scholar. I understand this is an appeal to authority, but any Bible scholar who is not bound by a statement of faith pretty much agrees this is a typo and a bad translation from the Hebrew to Greek.
I pray this honest Mormon man becomes a Christian. My hat is off to him for his intellectual integrity. Joel, your presentation of the Gospel is so compellingly grounded in the truth of holy scripture! Beautiful!
@24:34. I feel for this man. He struggles with what he was taught when faced with the truth of Jesus’s birth! I followed another path, and it is humbling and enlightening when I faced with the truth.
He is already a Christian. He believes in the Atonement of Christ for our sins. He has just been lied to about So many other things. It is so sad to watch.
My sister is a morman.. she joined 2 years ago and has been telling me that she has been feeling that there was something wrong and has been praying for guidance and the truth too be revealed about the church.... Well here is the answer to her prayers! Thank you for the help GBYA ❤️
i would at least tell your sister to try and find some of the places mentioned in the book of mormon (not the broadway play lol) the book talks of geographical areas that no one can find on earth, talks of giant epic battles on ... a hill outside NY but there are no bones, arrowheads, mass graves...nothing at least start with that as a way not to bring doubt on her life but to show her the truth
@@itsa-itsagames In the beginning of the Book of Mormon, it starts in the middle east and it mentions places in the middle east that we later found. Nahum, Bountiful, etc. There is even a map of the route we think Nephi's family took based on what is in the Book of Mormon and real geographical areas in the middle east. The hill in NY is not the same hill mentioned in the Book of Mormon. The Book of Mormon took place mostly in central and south america. Look up the Lidar system.
tell her to get out, now, the book of Mormok is written by man, not,God same as the Catholic bible, & the new KJV, man has corrupted them,The Old KJV,.is the nearest translation to the original, best you ask God what's Kosher or not, Amen!
I was raised in the Mormon church and many of my family members are still in the church and live in Utah. Praise be to GOD that I am now a born again follower of our great God and Savior JESUS CHRIST! Thank you for this video and for having compassion for these people. Let’s pray that many more people will realize that they can trust GOD’s word and turn to JESUS and be saved!
🌱😀🌱 Iron sharpens Iron Hidden Message in the Torah /Tanak / Bible Hidden within within the genealogy first Sons from Adam. Genesis 5 : 3-32 NAMES ---- Name MEANINGS Adam - Man Seth - Appointed Enos - Mortal Cainan - Sarrow Mahalaleel - Blessed GOD Jared - Shall come Down Enoch - Teaching Methuselah -His Death shall Bring Lamech -To Make /Low Mighity Noah -Rest / Favor / Fulfilled Name Meanings written in a Sentence 😳 Man appointed mortal Sarrow Blessed GOD shall come down teaching His death shall bring to make low/MIGHTY , rest favor FULFILLED My Interpretation: Jesus given a task to preform from this earth feeling of deep distress BLESSED GOD shall come down as Jesus teaching Jew as a Rabbi His death shall bring SALVATION to make low to hang on a tree becomes MIGHTY rest/ favor/ FULFILLED HIS Purpose 🤔 Keep this in mind 🤔all 10 generations timeline took place up to chapter 5 of Genesis ,Hidden Message telling Jesus COMING 😲 Approximately 4 thousand years later be fore it HAPPENED only God Ten Trillion people could not gotten together and had have written 1 fact and placed it in a book Foretelling of there coming Christ 4K years before it Happened Who is He ? Choose you this day whom you SERVE 🤔✝️😇😇 Jesus Loves You Believe ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST You are BORN AGAIN I
@@BandenIndarys yes. The message portrays the melchezedeck and levitical lineage to show that Yashuah is our High Priest and King; Both, Heavenly and earthly.
@cindybin2001 it's not your errors, it's Joseph's. Your error will be pride. Every mormon I've met has too much pride. Judging by your comment, you do too. Pride goest before the fall.
Ex Mormon here...the Bible itself refutes Mormon teaching as I discovered in a personal reading of the Bible. First point I discovered...I was always taught that Mormonism is the "one and only true church". But in revelations Jesus tells us that he will visit seven churches when he returns. Such a simple statement, but one that certainly got my attention. Second point...Mormons believe that you are married and sealed to your spouse for all of eternity. But in Matthew when Jesus is questioned about the seven brothers passing a wife down after their deaths, Jesus replies that in heaven, we are neither married, nor given in marriage. These are just the first two examples of the Bible refuting what I had been taught as a child, and with each subsequent reading, Jesus reveals more of his truth. I am so grateful that Jesus reveals more of himself to me through each reading and pray that many, many, many others receive the same knowledge as they throw their book of Mormon away and focus upon the true word, the Holy Bible.
🌱😀🌱 Iron sharpens Iron Hidden Message in the Torah /Tanak / Bible Believe as a child Hidden within within the genealogy first Sons from Adam. Genesis 5 : 3-32 NAMES ---- Name MEANINGS Adam - Man Seth - Appointed Enos - Mortal Cainan - Sarrow Mahalaleel - Blessed GOD Jared - Shall come Down Enoch - Teaching Methuselah -His Death shall Bring Lamech -To Make /Low Mighity Noah -Rest / Favor / Fulfilled Name Meanings written in a Sentence 😳 Man appointed mortal Sarrow Blessed GOD shall come down teaching His death shall bring to make low/MIGHTY , rest favor FULFILLED My Interpretation: Jesus given a task to preform from this earth feeling of deep distress BLESSED GOD shall come down as Jesus teaching Jew as a Rabbi His death shall bring SALVATION to make low to hang on a tree becomes MIGHTY rest/ favor/ FULFILLED HIS Purpose 🤔 Keep this in mind 🤔all 10 generations timeline took place up to chapter 5 of Genesis ,Hidden Message telling Jesus COMING 😲 Approximately 4 thousand years later be fore it HAPPENED only God Ten Trillion people could not gotten together and had have written 1 fact and placed it in a book Foretelling of there coming Christ 4K years before it Happened The Truth will set you Free Who is He ? Jesus or is he God Jesus said if you have seen me you have seen the FATHER Choose you this day whom you SERVE 🤔✝️😇😇 Jesus Loves You Believe ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST You are BORN AGAIN Enter in through the narrow Door , Jesus is The Way Share Share Share A spark can start a fire Tell many
Guys, Salvation is Very Simple HalleluYAH translates “Praise ye YaH” YaH is The Heavenly Father YaH arrives via the TENT OF MEETING YaH was Who they Crucified for our sins ** NO FEMALE INVOLVED WHATSOEVER ** - Hebrew Book of Isaiah (The Original Isaiah) Isaiah 42:8 "I am YaH; that is my Name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols. Isaiah 43:11 I, I am YAH, and there is no other Savior but Me. Isaiah 45:5 I am YaH, and there is none else.
He’s a rare one, I know from my own journey that very few Mormons (including myself) would ever listen like that without doubling down and blasting you with their “testimony” of every single thing they’ve been taught since childhood
Think on this. Joseph Smith knew Christ was born in Bethlehem, so why, if he was writing fiction to convince others it was scripture, would be place that in the book of mormon? At a 4th grade education, he writes a 500 page novel in very few days, but misplaced Christ's birthplace? Bethlehem is in the land of Jerusalem. At 6 miles from the actual city of jerusalem. How many New York City "New Yorkers" live in the Bronx or Queens?
My heart breaks for Greg. To spend his life learning and loving what he was taught, this had to be very difficult for him, both at the time, and since. The stakes are so high for Mormons, both in their learned life, and in the one they do not have due to being led astray. I pray for Greg, and all those Mormons I do not know, and all those that I do. Lord Almighty, please deliver these people.
Ohh not at all, Rejoice for Greg! As he looks to be a truth seeker of God, and through Greg's own path, God revealed himself to him. Greg will soon join Jesus Christ Church, and be blessed with true knowledge of Him.
And yet, what he has to gain is so much more and tremendous in comparison to religion and tradition. He can gain Christ! He is the truth! Many if us had to go through similar journey to abandon things we considered dear. But once you realize what is truly valuable, former things will fade away even if it might be painful at first. Praying for Greg.
I say this with all due respect because I really don't like arguing, but unfortunately this video is intellectually dishonest. With regard to the loss of plain and precious truths that were lost after the apostles, he fails to there were no New Testament books in the Dead Sea Scrolls, so you can't look to the dead sea scrolls for evidence of corruption AFTER the apostles among a group of texts that were all written BEFORE the apostles. He's being blatantly dishonest. With regard to the prophesy that Jesus will be born at Jerusalem, Alma was speaking to people in the Americas in the first century AD, more than 500 years after Lehi left Jerusalem. In other words, he is speaking to a group of people who have absolutely no concept of Israeli geography. Of course, no one that lived in Israel would have conflated Jerusalem and Bethlehem; they knew the geography well. But for people who knew nothing of Israeli geography, they would have no idea what Bethlehem is. In all likelihood, they only knew that their ancestors came from Jerusalem, so saying Jesus will be born in Jerusalem was about as specific as Alma could have been with them. Again, its an intellectually dishonest argument. As for lack of historical copies of the Book of Mormon, of course there aren't. God wants us to rely on the witness of his Spirit over the work of mortal archeologists. That's why Jeremiah said "Cursed is the one who trusts in man, who depends on flesh for his strength and whose heart turns away from the LORD." Jer. 17:6. Even with all the copies of the New Testament we have, it only proves that people believed in Jesus. None of it proves the Lord actually walked on water or healed the sick, those books only prove that other people believed it. For us to believe it, we have to go by the witness of the Spirit, same as we do with the Book of Mormon. And that same Spirit that testifies that the Bible is true also testifies that the Book of Mormon is true.
Props to Greg for accepting rebuke of what he believed was truth. That's a hard thing for people to do, especially when it comes to scriptures. I pray the Holy Spirit continues to lead him down the path of truth and righteousness
@@vdoniel it was painful to watch, but not in a bad way if that makes sense. You could see the wheels turning in his mind. He didn't just shut it down. That's so incredibly difficult to do. Judging by Joel's lack of gray hair, it's been a while since this was recorded. I wonder where Greg is now.
I used to be mormon I went to church one day and gave my tith to the state leader as he put it in his shirt pocket with a big smile at the time I was questioning the free masons and much more I literally heard God say there is your answer I left the church and found through Bible believing Christians on RU-vid that we are saved through grace through faith I have learned so much of the truth its amazing God is so good
Joseph Smith writing himself into the Holy Bible is blasphemous and any true folower of CHRIST should see the writing on the wall the man was a liar. What Joseph Smith did to Jn. 1:1 got him face planted outside his second story jail house window.
Hi Greg, if you’re reading this praying for you and cheering you on! This was a divine appointment by the Almighty! Thank you Joel for your gentleness and kindness in leading Greg to Truth. Were learning a lot from your ministry. May God bless you.
Truth? What truth? There is no truth in this video. Here is the real truth for you. (“Which one has more authority or precedent, the bible or the Book of Mormon?”) This is a dumb question, What you are asking is the equivalent of asking which takes more precedence Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John? There are different things and lessons said in all 4 and each one is of value. Taking one of the 4 out and you would lose a lot of the message of God and story and witness of Jesus Christ. (“The abominable church is the early christian church”) That isn’t true. The abominable church is anyone, past or present, who claims to be of Christ with their lips but denies him in actions. (Matthew 7:21-23, James 2:14-26, Ephesians 2:10, Titus 1:16, Isaiah 29:13) When Joel was talking to the linguist, the linguist avoided the topic. When asked about if the bible has been corrupted he doesn’t answer and insteads talks about the Book of Mormon manuscripts. What makes it even funnier is that Joel said there are no manuscripts like it completely negates what is said in 1 Nephi, it doesn’t. Nothing was said here that disproves what is said in 1 Nephi. (Greg “There has been one manuscript and as it faded over time then monks would free copy it over and over again”) That is not at all how the apostasy is described in our church. This is why I don’t believe Greg is truly a member because most people would have given the answer of “the authority died with the apostles”. My answer would have been somewhat similar but not at all worded anywhere close to what Greg said. This whole section is pointless when you realize Greg isn’t saying that we actually believe. And again, having no manuscripts for the Book of Mormon doesn’t disprove the claim of things being taken out of the bible. (Joel “Would you be able to tell if monks didn’t like something they would just take it out?” Linguist “Impossible”) Yea, the linguist is false here because we know it did happen with multiple versions and is very historically accurate. The New International Version (NIV) bible and every newer bible translation since 1900's is the biggest example of this. In Genesis 2:19 a translation such as the New Revised Standard Version uses "formed" in a plain past tense: "So out of the ground the LORD God *formed* every animal". The NIV's version is "Now the LORD God *had formed* out of the ground all the wild animals" to try to make it appear that the animals had already been created. Not only is the translation not correct but it misses the very point of the narrative and changes the meaning of the verse, that the animals were created in response to God's declaration that it was not good that Adam should be alone. The NIV has also changed verses to be more gender neutral, changing “mankind” into “human beings” for example. Most newer translations have been translated from the manuscripts and they don’t match older bibles. Let’s compare the NIV to the KJV KJV Luke 9:56 *“For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them.* And they went to another village” NIV Luke 9:56 “Then he and his disciples went to another village.” KJV Ephesians 3:9 “And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things *by Jesus Christ”* NIV Ephesians 3:9 “and to make plain to everyone the administration of this mystery, which for ages past was kept hidden in God, who created all things.” KJV Ephesians 5:9 “(For the fruit of the *Spirit* is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;) NIV Ephesians 5:9 “(for the fruit of the *light* consists in all goodness, righteousness and truth) KJV Revelations 13:1 *“And I stood upon the sand of the sea,* and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.” NIV Revelations 13:1 *“The dragon stood on the shore of the sea.* And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.” Matthew 18:11, Matthew 17:21, Matthew 23:14, Mark 7:16, Mark 9:44, Mark 9:46, Mark 11:26, Mark 15:28, Luke 17:36, John 5:3-4, Acts 8:37, Acts 15:34, Acts 24:6-8, Acts 28:29, Romans 16:24 have all been removed from the NIV and other newer translations. Mark 10:18 in the 1611 edition of the King James Version reads "why callest thou me good? There is *no man* good, but one, that is God". The phrase ‘no man’ was removed from every subsequent printing of the King James Bible even though the same Greek word that underlies the 1611 rendition (oudeis) is also translated ‘no man’ in Revelation 7:9 and 14:3 1 Corinthians 7:8 when read in english says "To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is good for them to remain unmarried as I am." giving the impression that he is talking to all unmarried people and widows. However, The Greek word translated "the unmarried" (agamois) has a masculine ending, meaning it can only refer to males. Unlike English, in Greek (like many other languages) words referring to people have different endings depending on whether males or females are being talked about. It is far more likely that "the unmarried" was supposed to mean widowers, men whose wives had died. This makes good sense of the masculine ending and goes well with the accompanying "widows". It makes sense that Paul would deal with widowers and widows together. Hellenistic Greek (the language in which the New Testament was written) has no word for a "widower" so the Greek word "agamos" which is found in verse 8 and translated to "the unmarried", was used instead. So verse 8 would be better translated and *understood* as "I say therefore to the widower and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I". This is saying nothing about or is to people who were never married and is actually saying not to get remarried. Should I keep hammering this point in with researching the KJV and what King James changed or do you all see it now? This was more or less off the top of my head and with about ~15 mins of research for clarification (The last 2 paragraphs I actually had saved for other "gotch ya" questions so that is why I knew it), what do think I could find out if I actually sat here and spent the time to research? What is really frustrating is that this whole time he hasn’t even asked “What was taken out of the gospel?” or “What are the plain and precious things that were taken out?”. How can you say something wasn’t taken out or the prophecies of something being taken out is wrong when you don’t even know what you are looking for? This “conclusion” is very disingenuous and a huge strawman. Here is the answer to "what was taken out of the gospel" To clarify, when the Book of Mormon talks of plain and precious things being taken out of the gospel it isn't just meaning the bible, it is also how christians explain and teach the message of the bible. How the relationship of God and Jesus Christ is described, necessity of baptism and the proper way to do it and when you are really considered "saved", baptism for the dead/preaching to the dead, proper priesthood authority, the laying on of hands to recieve the gift of the Holy Ghost, keeping the commandments and not being a sinner and actually following Christ, exaltation, 3 kingdoms of glory, not worshipping idols (the cross and pictures/statues of Jesus Christ and Mary for Catholics), Creation ex Nihilo, Purgatory (For Catholics), God being a spirit, marriages continuing in heaven, and the importance of temples are all things that have been removed or changed or added later by creeds or you teach these things despite it going against the bible. All of this can be shown from the bible and/or history and I can very much expand on each of these points for anyone. The Book of Mormon is true and Nephi was a real prophet who lived anciently. The Church of Jesus Christ is God's and Jesus Christ's true church here on earth
@@dylanwilliams2202 Where in the Bible is Nephi named? If Nephi is trustworthy, why is it written that Yeshua was born in Jerusalem and not Bethlehem? Why do you preach to the dead when it’s forbidden in Torah to speak to the dead? Mormons are very much like Muslims. Both rely on books written well after the fact and dare to attack the Bible, saying their extra books ‘written’ by their prophets supersede the Bible. But, ok. No doubt you’ve been well versed in how to defend your book by pointing out alleged discrepancies in the Bible. But let’s talk about the lives of your prophets. The wells from which these verses flow. Were these wells living Water or poisoned wells? Were Muhammad and Joseph Smith righteous men? What was the fruit of their lives? Were they like Yeshua and His apostle Paul? Did they keep God’s commandments as Yeshua commanded and encouraged love, joy, patience, kindness, meekness and self control?
@@redeemedstone "Where in the Bible is Nephi named?" Uh he isn't. Him not being mentioned in the Bible doesn't mean anything. "If Nephi is trustworthy, why is it written that Yeshua was born in Jerusalem and not Bethlehem?" Nephi never mentioned where Jesus was born, it was Alma and he didn't say he would be born in the city of Jerusalem. Alma didn't say he would be born in the City of Jerusalem. Alma 7:10 “And behold, he shall be born of Mary, at Jerusalem which is *the land of our forefathers,”* The phrase “land of Jerusalem” is a common phrase in the Book of Mormon and is used by its writers to refer to the place they originally came from. When they talked about the city then they said the city of Jerusalem. Alma probably didn't know any other place in Israel besides Jerusalem and was saying that Jesus Christ would be born among the Jews, who lived in and around Jerusalem. Let me put that in perspective, if I told you I lived in Kensington you most likely wouldn't know where that is and would ask "Where is that?". If I told you I lived in Washington D.C then you would have a better idea of where that is and not ask me anything. Bethlehem even during Christ's day wouldn't have been very big or all that well known, let alone to someone who lived across the world. Saying "the land of Jerusalem" isn't unique to the Book of Mormon. In 1887, some Ancient Near Eastern documents known as the Amarna letters were discovered and multiple letters say "the land of Jerusalem" . The ancient writer of El Amarna letter 290 even refers to Bethlehem as part of the land of Jerusalem. "But now even a town of the land of Jerusalem, Bit-Lahmi (Bethlehem) by name, a town belonging to the king, has gone over to the side of the people of Keilah" The phrase “land of Jerusalem” has also more recently turned up in a fragment from the Dead Sea Scrolls attributed to the prophet Jeremiah (4Q385a). In another fragment from the Dead Sea Scrolls, also related to Jeremiah (4Q389), a scholar restored the phrase “in the land of J[erusalem]” to a fragmented line. With Nephi leaving Jerusalem around the same time as Jeremiah and him having wrote down "land of Jerusalem" when referring to that land area it doesn't surprise me that people later on used the same phrase as Nephi. These ancient sources show that the “land of Jerusalem,” is actually evidence of the historical authenticity for the Book of Mormon. "Why do you preach to the dead when it’s forbidden in Torah to speak to the dead?" We or the living members don't preach to the dead. That preaching is done by people who were appointed and believed in Christ in this life. Also, Peter 3:19 "By which also he (Jesus Christ) went and *preached* unto the spirits in prison" and Peter 4:6 "For for this cause was *the gospel preached also to them that are dead,* that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit" "Mormons are very much like Muslims." Anyone who says that is ignorant of both religions. We are nothing alike. Islam is a false religion. "Both rely on books written well after the fact and dare to attack the Bible, saying their extra books ‘written’ by their prophets supersede the Bible." The Book of Mormon does not supersede the Bible. It is meant to be a companion to it and help and clarify the words and teachings of God. "No doubt you’ve been well versed in how to defend your book by pointing out alleged discrepancies in the Bible." I have never nor would I ever attack the Bible to prove the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon or the Church. In fact, I use the Bible to prove the truthfulness of both. Why would I attack something I consider scripture? "But let’s talk about the lives of your prophets." We do not consider Muhammad a prophet. Muhammad was a false prophet. "Were Muhammad and Joseph Smith righteous men?" Muhammad wasn't but Joseph Smith was as any man can be. " Were they like Yeshua and His apostle Paul?" Like Jesus? No, no one can really be like Jesus. Paul, Joseph Smith was. "Did they keep God’s commandments as Yeshua commanded and encouraged love, joy, patience, kindness, meekness and self control?" Joseph Smith did yea.
@@dylanwilliams2202 im going to ask you a question, I have zero knowledge of mormonism other than what I learned from matt stone and trey parker, so it is an honest question, i am not being condescending or mocking, I’m honestly interested. Does the LDS teach that joseph smith translated the mormon bible with golden plates that no one else has ever seen? And if not how did the mormon bible come about (short version is fine if there is one, im not expecting you to write the entirety of mormon history). But if they do teach that, how do you except that without thinking “that doesn’t sound right?” (Still not condescending, I’m honestly interested.) If someone came up to you today and said “I found this magical thing that I can’t show you but it says you should give me everything you own, you wouldn’t believe them, so how do mormons decide the difference between a scammer and a true prophet in that instance?
@@johnsourdiffe1664 _"Does the LDS teach that joseph smith translated the mormon bible with golden plates that no one else has ever seen?"_ There is no such thing as a "mormon bible". The official Bible we use is the KJV, though I personally read from the NRSV. The Book of Mormon is another story of a nation and people that believed in God and Jesus Christ and witnessed Christ's resurrection (Christ came down to them after His resurrection). Just as in the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses shall all words be established, in the mouth of 2 or 3 nations shall they testify of Christ To answer your question, there were many people who saw the plates, 11 of which can be read in front of every book of Mormon. David Whitmer, Oliver Cowdery, Martin Harris saw an angel (Moroni) who appeared to them and showed them the plates, you can read that in the Testimony of the 3 witnesses. 8 others Joseph just randomly pulled out the plates to show them, you can read that in the Testimony of the 8 witnesses. David Whitmer, Oliver Cowdery, Martin Harris all eventually left the Church because of personal issues with Joseph but all of them never denied what they saw or there testimony of the Book of Mormon despite leaving (Martin and Oliver eventually came back before they died and testified of the Book of Mormon till there dying breath). Some of the 8 left but again, never recanted their statements. Something that isn't in the Book of Mormon is that but you can read about in the Church's history books called Saints, is that there were others who saw the plates. When Joseph brought the plates home for the first time he showed them to his family wrapped in cloth, a guy named Josiah Stowell was there and he said (and testified in court) that the cloth fell a little to where he saw the plates a little, he died a faithful member. Lucy Whitmer (David's mom) told a story that during the translation process (Joseph Smith was staying with the Whitmer's at the time), Moroni came up to her and said that God has permitted her to see the plates because she had to do extra work. Emma Smith (Joseph's wife) said she felt the plates under a cloth and felt the engravings. Also, a guy named Sydney Rigdon saw some of the same visions as Joseph Smith did, one being section 76 of the Doctrine and Covenants. One day Joseph Smith, Sydney Rigdon and a guy named Frederick G. Williams were praying about how the Kirtland temple should be built and all of them saw a vision of what the temple looked like. All of that was just off the top of my head, and not including some other things said from people after Joseph died. Name me another person who claimed Prophethood that experienced visions and angels with many other people and those people testify of it. Some of whom left them but still testified of what they said. _"And if not how did the mormon bible come about"_ The short version is that Joseph Smith was led to a spot where the plates were buried, dug them up and was told to translate them into English and that God would help. Joseph then dictated it to a scribe (who for the most part was Oliver Cowdery) in about 3 months. He then took it to a printer who printed it and made it into a book for him. If you are kinda curious about the timeline, the 3 and 8 witnesses saw the plates after the Book of Mormon was done being translated but before it went to the printers so that their testimonies can be included into the Book of Mormon. _"so how do mormons decide the difference between a scammer and a true prophet in that instance?"_ Well, you have all the testimonies I shared to back up Joseph Smith's stories and claims. We also encourage people to read the Book of Mormon for themselves and ask God whether it is true or not. I did about 2 years ago now. I prayed and asked and after I asked a strong feeling of warmth immediately spread across my chest, something that I hadn't felt before nor have I felt as strongly since. After that, I researched my Church's history and saw all these miracles and testimonies. The Early Church's history and saw evidence of the apostasy happen as creeds came and changed things. Archeology and saw some pretty interesting evidence for the Book of Mormon, and even the Book of Moses and Abraham. I say all that because while my testimony does have a spiritual aspect, it isn't just blind faith.
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@@56username Most of those names don't mean that, some we don't even know what they mean, they are just names, what u just put is false. Don't try to add stuff where it isn't. Trying to be like Mr. Smith?
Watching the video, my heart ached for the Morman man but at the same time, my heart was rejoicing as I watched him receive what was given to him. I pray that he made Jesus Lord of his life.
I say this with all due respect because I really don't like arguing, but unfortunately this video is intellectually dishonest. With regard to the loss of plain and precious truths that were lost after the apostles, he fails to there were no New Testament books in the Dead Sea Scrolls, so you can't look to the dead sea scrolls for evidence of corruption AFTER the apostles among a group of texts that were all written BEFORE the apostles. He's being blatantly dishonest. With regard to the prophesy that Jesus will be born at Jerusalem, Alma was speaking to people in the Americas in the first century AD, more than 500 years after Lehi left Jerusalem. In other words, he is speaking to a group of people who have absolutely no concept of Israeli geography. Of course, no one that lived in Israel would have conflated Jerusalem and Bethlehem; they knew the geography well. But for people who knew nothing of Israeli geography, they would have no idea what Bethlehem is. In all likelihood, they only knew that their ancestors came from Jerusalem, so saying Jesus will be born in Jerusalem was about as specific as Alma could have been with them. Again, its an intellectually dishonest argument. As for lack of historical copies of the Book of Mormon, of course there aren't. God wants us to rely on the witness of his Spirit over the work of mortal archeologists. That's why Jeremiah said "Cursed is the one who trusts in man, who depends on flesh for his strength and whose heart turns away from the LORD." Jer. 17:6. Even with all the copies of the New Testament we have, it only proves that people believed in Jesus. None of it proves the Lord actually walked on water or healed the sick, those books only prove that other people believed it. For us to believe it, we have to go by the witness of the Spirit, same as we do with the Book of Mormon. And that same Spirit that testifies that the Bible is true also testifies that the Book of Mormon is true.
I say this with all due respect because I really don't like arguing, but unfortunately this video is intellectually dishonest. With regard to the loss of plain and precious truths that were lost after the apostles, he fails to there were no New Testament books in the Dead Sea Scrolls, so you can't look to the dead sea scrolls for evidence of corruption AFTER the apostles among a group of texts that were all written BEFORE the apostles. He's being blatantly dishonest. With regard to the prophesy that Jesus will be born at Jerusalem, Alma was speaking to people in the Americas in the first century AD, more than 500 years after Lehi left Jerusalem. In other words, he is speaking to a group of people who have absolutely no concept of Israeli geography. Of course, no one that lived in Israel would have conflated Jerusalem and Bethlehem; they knew the geography well. But for people who knew nothing of Israeli geography, they would have no idea what Bethlehem is. In all likelihood, they only knew that their ancestors came from Jerusalem, so saying Jesus will be born in Jerusalem was about as specific as Alma could have been with them. Again, its an intellectually dishonest argument. As for lack of historical copies of the Book of Mormon, of course there aren't. God wants us to rely on the witness of his Spirit over the work of mortal archeologists. That's why Jeremiah said "Cursed is the one who trusts in man, who depends on flesh for his strength and whose heart turns away from the LORD." Jer. 17:6. Even with all the copies of the New Testament we have, it only proves that people believed in Jesus. None of it proves the Lord actually walked on water or healed the sick, those books only prove that other people believed it. For us to believe it, we have to go by the witness of the Spirit, same as we do with the Book of Mormon. And that same Spirit that testifies that the Bible is true also testifies that the Book of Mormon is true.
I say this with all due respect because I really don't like arguing, but unfortunately this video is intellectually dishonest. With regard to the loss of plain and precious truths that were lost after the apostles, he fails to there were no New Testament books in the Dead Sea Scrolls, so you can't look to the dead sea scrolls for evidence of corruption AFTER the apostles among a group of texts that were all written BEFORE the apostles. He's being blatantly dishonest. With regard to the prophesy that Jesus will be born at Jerusalem, Alma was speaking to people in the Americas in the first century AD, more than 500 years after Lehi left Jerusalem. In other words, he is speaking to a group of people who have absolutely no concept of Israeli geography. Of course, no one that lived in Israel would have conflated Jerusalem and Bethlehem; they knew the geography well. But for people who knew nothing of Israeli geography, they would have no idea what Bethlehem is. In all likelihood, they only knew that their ancestors came from Jerusalem, so saying Jesus will be born in Jerusalem was about as specific as Alma could have been with them. Again, its an intellectually dishonest argument. As for lack of historical copies of the Book of Mormon, of course there aren't. God wants us to rely on the witness of his Spirit over the work of mortal archeologists. That's why Jeremiah said "Cursed is the one who trusts in man, who depends on flesh for his strength and whose heart turns away from the LORD." Jer. 17:6. Even with all the copies of the New Testament we have, it only proves that people believed in Jesus. None of it proves the Lord actually walked on water or healed the sick, those books only prove that other people believed it. For us to believe it, we have to go by the witness of the Spirit, same as we do with the Book of Mormon. And that same Spirit that testifies that the Bible is true also testifies that the Book of Mormon is true.
Prayers for both men, who courageously opened up a dialogue that could easily have been destroyed by anger and resentment and judgment, and who journeyed together to try to find truth. The integrity of both shows through over and over. I am grateful for the improved understanding i gained from this video.
🌱😀🌱 Iron sharpens Iron Hidden Message in the Torah /Tanak / Bible Believe as a child Hidden within within the genealogy first Sons from Adam. Genesis 5 : 3-32 NAMES ---- Name MEANINGS Adam - Man Seth - Appointed Enos - Mortal Cainan - Sarrow Mahalaleel - Blessed GOD Jared - Shall come Down Enoch - Teaching Methuselah -His Death shall Bring Lamech -To Make /Low Mighity Noah -Rest / Favor / Fulfilled Name Meanings written in a Sentence 😳 Man appointed mortal Sarrow Blessed GOD shall come down teaching His death shall bring to make low/MIGHTY , rest favor FULFILLED My Interpretation: Jesus given a task to preform from this earth feeling of deep distress BLESSED GOD shall come down as Jesus teaching Jew as a Rabbi His death shall bring SALVATION to make low to hang on a tree becomes MIGHTY rest/ favor/ FULFILLED HIS Purpose 🤔 Keep this in mind 🤔all 10 generations timeline took place up to chapter 5 of Genesis ,Hidden Message telling Jesus COMING 😲 Approximately 4 thousand years later be fore it HAPPENED only God Ten Trillion people could not gotten together and had have written 1 fact and placed it in a book Foretelling of there coming Christ 4K years before it Happened The Truth will set you Free Who is He ? Choose you this day whom you SERVE 🤔✝️😇😇 Jesus Loves You Believe ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST You are BORN AGAIN I
🌱😀🌱 Iron sharpens Iron Hidden Message in the Torah /Tanak / Bible Believe as a child Hidden within within the genealogy first Sons from Adam. Genesis 5 : 3-32 NAMES ---- Name MEANINGS Adam - Man Seth - Appointed Enos - Mortal Cainan - Sarrow Mahalaleel - Blessed GOD Jared - Shall come Down Enoch - Teaching Methuselah -His Death shall Bring Lamech -To Make /Low Mighity Noah -Rest / Favor / Fulfilled Name Meanings written in a Sentence 😳 Man appointed mortal Sarrow Blessed GOD shall come down teaching His death shall bring to make low/MIGHTY , rest favor FULFILLED My Interpretation: Jesus given a task to preform from this earth feeling of deep distress BLESSED GOD shall come down as Jesus teaching Jew as a Rabbi His death shall bring SALVATION to make low to hang on a tree becomes MIGHTY rest/ favor/ FULFILLED HIS Purpose 🤔 Keep this in mind 🤔all 10 generations timeline took place up to chapter 5 of Genesis ,Hidden Message telling Jesus COMING 😲 Approximately 4 thousand years later be fore it HAPPENED only God Ten Trillion people could not gotten together and had have written 1 fact and placed it in a book Foretelling of there coming Christ 4K years before it Happened The Truth will set you Free Who is He ? Jesus or is he God Jesus said if you have seen me you have seen the FATHER Choose you this day whom you SERVE 🤔✝️😇😇 Jesus Loves You Believe ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST You are BORN AGAIN Enter in through the narrow Door , Jesus is The Way Share Share Share A spark can start a fire Tell many
@cindybin2001 It's hard to have your beliefs challenged, but no one in this video is forcing anyone to do anything. All anyone can do is review the facts for themselves and come to their own conclusions. If you would say that because these are Christians making this video, it proves they're biased and can't be trusted, then I would suggest that the Mormon site you mentioned is guilty of the same bias and likewise cannot be trusted. Cognitive dissonance is a very real thing and all the evidence in this video is presented straight from the locations and texts themselves. If the Mormon in this video didn't have better evidence to show for his side, that's no one's fault but the Mormon Church, but it's not his fault. He seems a kind and caring soul. I suggest you consider watching this video with an open and honest heart and mind, and if you can disprove its contents with better evidence, then do so. But don't come here just to make others feel or look bad for believing the evidence they've been given here. Only God can change a heart.
🌱😀🌱 Iron sharpens Iron Hidden Message in the Torah /Tanak / Bible Believe as a child Hidden within within the genealogy first Sons from Adam. Genesis 5 : 3-32 NAMES ---- Name MEANINGS Adam - Man Seth - Appointed Enos - Mortal Cainan - Sarrow Mahalaleel - Blessed GOD Jared - Shall come Down Enoch - Teaching Methuselah -His Death shall Bring Lamech -To Make /Low Mighity Noah -Rest / Favor / Fulfilled Name Meanings written in a Sentence 😳 Man appointed mortal Sarrow Blessed GOD shall come down teaching His death shall bring to make low/MIGHTY , rest favor FULFILLED My Interpretation: Jesus given a task to preform from this earth feeling of deep distress BLESSED GOD shall come down as Jesus teaching Jew as a Rabbi His death shall bring SALVATION to make low to hang on a tree becomes MIGHTY rest/ favor/ FULFILLED HIS Purpose 🤔 Keep this in mind 🤔all 10 generations timeline took place up to chapter 5 of Genesis ,Hidden Message telling Jesus COMING 😲 Approximately 4 thousand years later be fore it HAPPENED only God Ten Trillion people could not gotten together and had have written 1 fact and placed it in a book Foretelling of there coming Christ 4K years before it Happened The Truth will set you Free Who is He ? Choose you this day whom you SERVE 🤔✝️😇😇 Jesus Loves You Believe ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST You are BORN AGAIN I
Guys, Salvation is Very Simple HalleluYAH translates “Praise ye YaH” YaH is The Heavenly Father YaH arrives via the TENT OF MEETING YaH was Who they Crucified for our sins ** NO FEMALE INVOLVED WHATSOEVER ** - Hebrew Book of Isaiah (The Original Isaiah) Isaiah 42:8 "I am YaH; that is my Name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols. Isaiah 43:11 I, I am YAH, and there is no other Savior but Me. Isaiah 45:5 I am YaH, and there is none else.
Your gentleness in speech and careful speech/questions are godly my friend. I see the Spirit at work in you with the fruit of gentleness and self-control, keep it up! I want to imitate your speech brother
🌱😀🌱 Iron sharpens Iron Hidden Message in the Torah /Tanak / Bible Believe as a child Hidden within within the genealogy first Sons from Adam. Genesis 5 : 3-32 NAMES ---- Name MEANINGS Adam - Man Seth - Appointed Enos - Mortal Cainan - Sarrow Mahalaleel - Blessed GOD Jared - Shall come Down Enoch - Teaching Methuselah -His Death shall Bring Lamech -To Make /Low Mighity Noah -Rest / Favor / Fulfilled Name Meanings written in a Sentence 😳 Man appointed mortal Sarrow Blessed GOD shall come down teaching His death shall bring to make low/MIGHTY , rest favor FULFILLED My Interpretation: Jesus given a task to preform from this earth feeling of deep distress BLESSED GOD shall come down as Jesus teaching Jew as a Rabbi His death shall bring SALVATION to make low to hang on a tree becomes MIGHTY rest/ favor/ FULFILLED HIS Purpose 🤔 Keep this in mind 🤔all 10 generations timeline took place up to chapter 5 of Genesis ,Hidden Message telling Jesus COMING 😲 Approximately 4 thousand years later be fore it HAPPENED only God Ten Trillion people could not gotten together and had have written 1 fact and placed it in a book Foretelling of there coming Christ 4K years before it Happened The Truth will set you Free Who is He ? Choose you this day whom you SERVE 🤔✝️😇😇 Jesus Loves You Believe ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST You are BORN AGAIN I
I just got back from my first trip to Israel and our tour guide there (a Messianic Jew) said, "You can only preach the gospel to a humble person." This man was trying so hard to set aside his pride and ego and was so close to accepting that he had been sold a lie. I applaud him for having an open mind enough to sit down for that because it must have been a grueling experience. Praying that he has since done the research sufficient for his soul to let go and embrace Jesus. Incredible video!
I was a Mormon once. It took a lot of research proof to finally wake me up and admit that it simply wasn't true--after 40 years! The internet is helping so many of us.
@@Cuinn837 I’m glad your happier down your current path. For me, it was the exact opposite that led me to true happiness. Through studying in depth and research and truly pondering what I had been taught about the Latter Day Saint faith, I’ve been brought closer to it and to Jesus Christ. Even these arguments in this video were fairly easy for me to refute based on my own personal research. Still, I can certainly respect those who reach another conclusion regardless of what I believe
@@budoboy1977 as far as I can tell yes. I’ve gone over hundreds of his prophecies in fact and they either were fulfilled or are yet to be, but none have been proven false that I have read and really studied
I felt bad for Greg. He obviously agreed to do this but having your paradigm crumble in front of you is a monumental and very private moment. Now that it’s been several months I hope the cognitive dissonance is behind him and he can focus on the truth. I wish him well. Joel, this was such an excellent teaching tool to help others. Thank you for this important video. ❤️🙏
Greg is fine, I’m sure. Nothing in this video is alarming to a Mormon. I just wish this was done with an actual scholar and not ward member number 5. There are so many scholars that we have. That would be worth watching.
@@TheArkisSteadyA Mormon scholar can’t change facts, there are 0 ancient Mormon manuscripts. It’s a man inspired book written in the 1800’s, and has nothing to do with God. No amount of study or dedication will ever change that. The Book of Mormon disproves itself, through false prophecies over and over.
@@TheArkisSteady I have yet to see one comment debunking this video. I guess no lds member cared enough to do that. Oh well... the LDS church is an 18th century new organization (its a different belief and theology from the 1st century church) so I'm glad no one is trying to defend the LDS church by debunking this video.
I believe he was looking at what he was being shown with an honest heart and that he will search himself. I pray he will find salvation in Christ Jesus in due time. God knows what that time is.
I say this with a humble heart. Greg started out saying that the Bible is grade school and pearl of great price is high school, and ended up getting schooled. Never underestimate our Holy Scripture.
Brilliant. Joel this imo, is a masterpiece of evangelism. I will pray for Greg and all who might view this documentary. I am texting with tears because I have a true love for a Mormon family from my childhood. I'm now 67 and although I haven't seen them in decades I will never forget the kindness they showed me as a child. I have often prayed for them. May God bless this video to the salvation and peace of all who are under a false teaching. May this video be shared by all.
🌱😀🌱 Iron sharpens Iron Hidden Message in the Torah /Tanak / Bible Hidden within within the genealogy first Sons from Adam. Genesis 5 : 3-32 NAMES ---- Name MEANINGS Adam - Man Seth - Appointed Enos - Mortal Cainan - Sarrow Mahalaleel - Blessed GOD Jared - Shall come Down Enoch - Teaching Methuselah -His Death shall Bring Lamech -To Make /Low Mighity Noah -Rest / Favor / Fulfilled Name Meanings written in a Sentence 😳 Man appointed mortal Sarrow Blessed GOD shall come down teaching His death shall bring to make low/MIGHTY , rest favor FULFILLED My Interpretation: Jesus given a task to preform from this earth feeling of deep distress BLESSED GOD shall come down as Jesus teaching Jew as a Rabbi His death shall bring SALVATION to make low to hang on a tree becomes MIGHTY rest/ favor/ FULFILLED HIS Purpose 🤔 Keep this in mind 🤔all 10 generations timeline took place up to chapter 5 of Genesis ,Hidden Message telling Jesus COMING 😲 Approximately 4 thousand years later be fore it HAPPENED only God Ten Trillion people could not gotten together and had have written 1 fact and placed it in a book Foretelling of there coming Christ 4K years before it Happened Who is He ? Choose you this day whom you SERVE 🤔✝️😇😇 Jesus Loves You Believe ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST You are BORN AGAIN I
Love to you lady! Trust what you knew. Those people you knew are some of the good examples of the believers. The church of jesus christ is just that. It is full of people who are striving to be better and fall short like the rest of human kind. We do believe in the bible!!!!Bible!!!!! There is so much that this poor man who was interviewed got caught unaware and was unprepared to answer correctly. He should not have tried to speak for our entire church. He got a lot wrong
30 minutes in and seeing the grace and humility brings tears to my eyes. The humility of both sides is so pleasing to see. Seeing Greg understand the contradictions and not fight over it is so heartwarming. There is no fighting between either, just understanding and a sense of love towards each other and love for the truth
I gotta say that I have a lot of respect for the Morman guy. He looks at the truth and accepts that he has been mistaken. He takes it very well. Not an easy thing to do, especially on camera.
Joel I have such great respect how you handled this interview with Greg. It would be so easy to want to "win" the debate and lose the person you are witnessing to. You clearly have a heart for him and handled the whole interview with respect and a search for truth. We can all learn from this.
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@@quantumloops1 Lol Bruh, there is nothing you could say that we do that would even be close to us worshiping Joseph Smith. Sorry but anyone who says we worship Joseph Smith is very ignorant. Joseph Smith never said he was greater than Jesus. I already know the quote you are misquoting but come on and quote it to me like you aren't just saying the same old talking points that have been refuted already.
@@dylanwilliams2202 By your own admission you didn't watch the video, yet here you are criticizing the content of this film. Cults are very hard to break free from I hear as in your case.
I know how he feels because I was raised in a Mormon household from the time I was born. My father was a Mormon bishop. My entire childhood was about Mormonism. As a teenager, I had to attend seminary before school where I was taught the Book of Mormon, the Pearl of Great Price, and the Doctrine & Covenants. Everything my family did had to do with Mormonism including most of our family vacations. Both sets of my grandparents warned me as a child that it was a lie. Because of them planting that seed of doubt, I started questioning everything that I had been taught. To make a long story short, I left the Mormon church the day I turned 18 years old. The bishop of the church sent me a letter that said they were revoking my baptism and taking the Holy Spirit from me and that God would hold me accountable for all the youth that I was leading astray. I lost my identity overnight. I had no idea who I was or what I believed and became so bitter. I spent years reading the Bible until finally one day, the Lord called me out of a world of darkness and confusion. I am so grateful the Lord delivered me and set me free and gave me a new identity in Christ. I pray that one day, my parents and brothers will be delivered. They are good people but as the Bible says, “they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge.”
What a wonderful testimony. When reading the letters of Paul to the churches of his days, it constantly reminds me that the battle for consuming and spreading the right gospel is as ancient as the bible itself, yet as prevalent as in Paul's days.
I've recently come to realize the true gospel of Christ a few weeks ago and it finally all made sense after being confused in Mormonism for 17 years. I had seeds planted in my head for years but hearing the message of being saved by grace has been the greatest thing I've experienced. I hope one day this cognitive dissonance I am having between Mormonism and Christianity can end and I can fully immerse myself in Christ
@@itsdrewstewI’m go grateful that both us were delivered from years of indoctrination of false doctrines from false prophets. The best advise I can give you is to stay in the Word of God as much as you can and let it transform your mind. The Holy Spirit will reveal to you the love, grace, and mercy of the one and only true gospel of Jesus Christ. It has taken me years of prayer and studying the Word to find my true identity in Christ. Praying for you, my brother in Christ
I am a Christian and live in Utah. I have been researching how to better defend the Bible and finding ways to better present it to my LDS friends. This video is such a blessing, thank you!
I’m a Christian and just moved to Utah, there’s 3 guys on their mission here who I’ve talked to several times, I told them my hang-ups with Mormonism: Joseph smiths background, polygamy, the lack of historicity, the inconsistencies of the Book of Mormon. I’m pretty sure I may have inadvertently given them confidence in converting me, just by being nice and asking them questions about Mormonism. Any tips you have for me in regards to the missionaries? I just can’t believe what they do, but everytime I bring up why isn’t Jesus enough and living like he told us to, they always quote from the Book of Mormon. I’m supposed to meet with them in a week, and I don’t want to offend them, but I can’t help but want to get them to question why they are so dedicated to Mormonism and not Jesus alone.
I had a problem with what Brigham Young did with plural marriage that continues today in the offshoot of Mormon and damages young girls that are inducted into that kind of thing. I consider it molesting children and not Christian teaching what so ever.
By now youve met with them. One must be very careful when dealing with people in a cult. Historicity is a solid argument but so is the argument that faith cannot come from the personal revelation of one person. If they try to bring up Moses, theyd lose whichever way you take it. If you admit that Moses was wrong, their whole faith crumbles because it claims to be the continuation or true version of christianity which itself claims to be the continuation of Judaism. The second, and correct response, is that Moses did not have an individual revelation. G-d spoke to him, but everyone at Sinai heard G-d. In fact all the people were invited to ascend Sinai for the same experience Moses did but they stayed at the base and sent Moshe instead.
Great comment: Show them the X-Ray The LDS dilemma Ephesians 2:8-10 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
You really don't have to since the Authorized King James Version of the Bible is ;part of our Standard Works in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints!
My uncle was born, raised and died as a Mormon. His wife of 76 years was the same. I wish they knew Christ like I did, but I pray that God will have mercy on them when judgement comes. I've been grateful that I know Jesus Christ as my personal Savior. I would not have it any other way.
I love how different sides and different beliefs have a peaceful talk without debating or arguing. It's just calm, detailed, and patiently explained. Also, how they both listen to each other calmly and willingly without getting aggressive or heated up in argument. I also love how they put the bible first to do all the work. The bible says that God's word is more piercing than a double-edged sword, so we encourage scripture, scripture does the big transformative work.
Greg was very logical. And i will pray for him. What a kind hearted chap and even though his world was being torn apart he desired truth above how he felt. Heart goes out to you Greg
As a former Mormon, I am thankful for finding this video. IT confirms many things that are important to consider. As a Mormon, I was taught to use the Bible to prove the Mormon Church true. However, it was by taking the passages out of context that it was able to be done. It took a lot of soul searching and time in the Bible to discover that I had been trusting in a false Jesus.
"it was by taking the passages out of context that it was able to be done." LOL No, we aren't the ones who take Bible passages out of context. We know and teach the Bible better than every other denomination. If you are going to just repeat the same false teachings that other denominations teach then you *do not* know the Bible. Had you actually studied the Bible then you wouldn't have left. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is God's and Jesus Christ one and only true church here on earth. You have been led away by false teachings of the devil/ the philosophies of man mingled with scripture. Rejoin God and Jesus Christ in their Kingdom and rejoin their true church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and learn all that they have to offer. Learn of their glory and mercy, learn of the plan they have of you.
@@jesusbootcamp660 You can't find a verse that would make someone question our beliefs. Especially if you actually know them. You could definitely misquote scriptures that could confuse people but you all do that anyways. That _"I want to make to make the question things"_ proves that you intentions are not of God either but of Satan.
@@dylanwilliams2202 well they called jesus beelzebub so nothing new, you already are given over to a lie because you dont love the truth.. im talking about the victim mormons that still can be saved
@@jesusbootcamp660 _"well they called jesus beelzebub so nothing new"_ What are you talking about? Are you ok? _"you already are given over to a lie because you dont love the truth"_ Oh I love the truth. Which is why I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. To put it bluntly, the gospel every other Christian denomination teaches is a watered down version of what God's and Jesus Christ true gospel really is. How the relationship of God and Jesus Christ is described, necessity of baptism and the proper way to do it and when you are really considered "saved", proper priesthood authority, the laying on of hands to receive the gift of the Holy Ghost, keeping the commandments and not being a sinner and actually following Christ, exaltation, baptism for the dead/preaching to the dead, 3 kingdoms of glory, doctrine of Adam and Eve, not worshiping idols (the cross and pictures/statues of Jesus Christ and Mary for Catholics), Creation ex Nihilo, Purgatory (For Catholics), God being a spirit, marriages continuing in heaven, and the importance of temples are all things that have been removed, changed or added later by creeds and/or Martin Luther and you teach these things despite some of it going against the bible. All of this can be shown from the bible and/or history and I can very much expand on each of these points for you. You don't have the truth and you won't win anything because the truth always wins out.
Neither could I. That’s got to be a terrible feeling. Though I will say if Greg really does look into the arguments like he said he would, then he has nothing to fear. While I appreciated the video, I was disappointed by the overall lack of depth in every argument made. With even the most surface level research, it is so easy to disprove or refute every argument made against the church in this video. The scriptures were taken out of context, the nuance completely ignored. His arguments against archeology, Joseph smith, all of it was weak, out of context or frankly incorrect. I would encourage you to look into the arguments made a little more deeply and maybe look at actual Latter Day Saint beliefs regarding each of those criticisms made in this video. I’m not saying this will make you join the church or anything, but at least it might give you a better idea of why so many intelligent and successful people are part of the church and so dedicated. There is a lot that makes sense and even more that lines up with the biblical ancient church
Exactly. My heart broke for him, while I I also felt like just giving him a motherly hug of consolation…. Yet it is a relief to rescue even one from deception.
@@anthonyterry2896where is your archaeological evidence supporting Joseph Smith? What about this video was not true? Be specific, or please just sit down!
My heart goes out to this man who discovered that he believed a lie since his youth. At the same time I have such deep respect for him willing to acknowledge the truth.
I almost feel bad for Greg. When everything you've ever believed is turned upside down, it's a tough pill to swallow. I'll be praying for him. He handled it well and you introduced it to him well. I pray that he gets saved. ❤️
🌱😀🌱 Iron sharpens Iron Hidden Message in the Torah /Tanak / Bible Believe as a child Hidden within within the genealogy first Sons from Adam. Genesis 5 : 3-32 NAMES ---- Name MEANINGS Adam - Man Seth - Appointed Enos - Mortal Cainan - Sarrow Mahalaleel - Blessed GOD Jared - Shall come Down Enoch - Teaching Methuselah -His Death shall Bring Lamech -To Make /Low Mighity Noah -Rest / Favor / Fulfilled Name Meanings written in a Sentence 😳 Man appointed mortal Sarrow Blessed GOD shall come down teaching His death shall bring to make low/MIGHTY , rest favor FULFILLED My Interpretation: Jesus given a task to preform from this earth feeling of deep distress BLESSED GOD shall come down as Jesus teaching Jew as a Rabbi His death shall bring SALVATION to make low to hang on a tree becomes MIGHTY rest/ favor/ FULFILLED HIS Purpose 🤔 Keep this in mind 🤔all 10 generations timeline took place up to chapter 5 of Genesis ,Hidden Message telling Jesus COMING 😲 Approximately 4 thousand years later be fore it HAPPENED only God Ten Trillion people could not gotten together and had have written 1 fact and placed it in a book Foretelling of there coming Christ 4K years before it Happened The Truth will set you Free Who is He ? Choose you this day whom you SERVE 🤔✝️😇😇 Jesus Loves You Believe ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST You are BORN AGAIN I
@@debraolson7553 The only thing I found wrong in this video was the site of Jesus's tomb, it is not under any church, but in the escarpment at Golgotha where Ron Wyatt found it, they call it the Garden Tomb! John 19.41 and Mathew 27.33
Joel, please do a followup video with him. I'm sure he's thought about this a lot since you posted the video a year ago. Whatever his beliefs are now, even if they're the same, it would be really interesting to hear about it. Amazing video!
My heart breaks for Greg. His life's work is being challenged. Yet I am happy to see him look into this from a perspective that does challenge what he was taught. This should inspire all of us to be Bereans. Let us look into the things we are being taught and see if it is being taught correctly. Excellent documentary. God's word is truth. Also, what a difference it makes to teach the truth in love. There is no argumentative approach. That closes doors. Thank you, Joel for living out 1 Timothy 1:5
🌱😀🌱 Iron sharpens Iron Hidden Message in the Torah /Tanak / Bible Hidden within within the genealogy first Sons from Adam. Genesis 5 : 3-32 NAMES ---- Name MEANINGS Adam - Man Seth - Appointed Enos - Mortal Cainan - Sarrow Mahalaleel - Blessed GOD Jared - Shall come Down Enoch - Teaching Methuselah -His Death shall Bring Lamech -To Make /Low Mighity Noah -Rest / Favor / Fulfilled Name Meanings written in a Sentence 😳 Man appointed mortal Sarrow Blessed GOD shall come down teaching His death shall bring to make low/MIGHTY , rest favor FULFILLED My Interpretation: Jesus given a task to preform from this earth feeling of deep distress BLESSED GOD shall come down as Jesus teaching Jew as a Rabbi His death shall bring SALVATION to make low to hang on a tree becomes MIGHTY rest/ favor/ FULFILLED HIS Purpose 🤔 Keep this in mind 🤔all 10 generations timeline took place up to chapter 5 of Genesis ,Hidden Message telling Jesus COMING 😲 Approximately 4 thousand years later be fore it HAPPENED only God Ten Trillion people could not gotten together and had have written 1 fact and placed it in a book Foretelling of there coming Christ 4K years before it Happened Who is He ? Choose you this day whom you SERVE 🤔✝️😇😇 Jesus Loves You Believe ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST You are BORN AGAIN I
🌱😀🌱 Iron sharpens Iron Hidden Message in the Torah /Tanak / Bible Believe as a child Hidden within within the genealogy first Sons from Adam. Genesis 5 : 3-32 NAMES ---- Name MEANINGS Adam - Man Seth - Appointed Enos - Mortal Cainan - Sarrow Mahalaleel - Blessed GOD Jared - Shall come Down Enoch - Teaching Methuselah -His Death shall Bring Lamech -To Make /Low Mighity Noah -Rest / Favor / Fulfilled Name Meanings written in a Sentence 😳 Man appointed mortal Sarrow Blessed GOD shall come down teaching His death shall bring to make low/MIGHTY , rest favor FULFILLED My Interpretation: Jesus given a task to preform from this earth feeling of deep distress BLESSED GOD shall come down as Jesus teaching Jew as a Rabbi His death shall bring SALVATION to make low to hang on a tree becomes MIGHTY rest/ favor/ FULFILLED HIS Purpose 🤔 Keep this in mind 🤔all 10 generations timeline took place up to chapter 5 of Genesis ,Hidden Message telling Jesus COMING 😲 Approximately 4 thousand years later be fore it HAPPENED only God Ten Trillion people could not gotten together and had have written 1 fact and placed it in a book Foretelling of there coming Christ 4K years before it Happened The Truth will set you Free Who is He ? Choose you this day whom you SERVE 🤔✝️😇😇 Jesus Loves You Believe ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST You are BORN AGAIN I
Thank you for posting this video. As a former member of the lds church I had trouble voicing my belief that the lds church was not right. This cleared it up for me.
I say this with all due respect because I really don't like arguing, but unfortunately this video is intellectually dishonest. With regard to the loss of plain and precious truths that were lost after the apostles, he fails to there were no New Testament books in the Dead Sea Scrolls, so you can't look to the dead sea scrolls for evidence of corruption AFTER the apostles among a group of texts that were all written BEFORE the apostles. He's being blatantly dishonest. With regard to the prophesy that Jesus will be born at Jerusalem, Alma was speaking to people in the Americas in the first century AD, more than 500 years after Lehi left Jerusalem. In other words, he is speaking to a group of people who have absolutely no concept of Israeli geography. Of course, no one that lived in Israel would have conflated Jerusalem and Bethlehem; they knew the geography well. But for people who knew nothing of Israeli geography, they would have no idea what Bethlehem is. In all likelihood, they only knew that their ancestors came from Jerusalem, so saying Jesus will be born in Jerusalem was about as specific as Alma could have been with them. Again, its an intellectually dishonest argument. As for lack of historical copies of the Book of Mormon, of course there aren't. God wants us to rely on the witness of his Spirit over the work of mortal archeologists. That's why Jeremiah said "Cursed is the one who trusts in man, who depends on flesh for his strength and whose heart turns away from the LORD." Jer. 17:6. Even with all the copies of the New Testament we have, it only proves that people believed in Jesus. None of it proves the Lord actually walked on water or healed the sick, those books only prove that other people believed it. For us to believe it, we have to go by the witness of the Spirit, same as we do with the Book of Mormon. And that same Spirit that testifies that the Bible is true also testifies that the Book of Mormon is true.
Beautifully portrayed in such a loving way! Bless you for bringing this man to the truth. I will share this message to any member of the church of LDS.
I would say he definitely showed love and patience in this video, but I don’t think I would say his explanation of the Latter Day Saint faith was gracious. Watching through the video, there were so many mischaracterizations and inaccuracies when it comes to what we truly believe. The scriptures from the Book of Mormon were taken out of context, the argument concerning evidence of the Book of Mormon was inaccurate, the “false prophecy” of Joseph Smith was taken out of context. Honestly, every argument made was weak and faulty. While I think the video was well produced I am a little disappointed by the lack of depth in the arguments. The arguments weren’t well researched and honestly in less than a few minutes of research, most people would be able to debunk or refute every argument he made.
@@anthonyterry2896 Regardless the (in)accuracy of the mornons' belifs presentation in this video, I find the basic argument of the author - that old testamental prophecies about Jesus Christ are accurate - as strong and logically convincing! Textological (epigraphic) and historical evidence is abounding. What cannot be said about the Book of Mormon. Therefore, there is no way to say along with J. Smith and his followers that original truth of God's Word was removed, hidden or perverted after the Apostolic period. Moreover, a Bible translation of J. Smith is very questionable because it turns to be more an attempt to rewrite, rework and expand the Bible. There were several attempts in history to do that (Marcion in the 2nd century AD denied the Old Testament, and Leo Tolstoy in 19th century had invented his own Gospel). By the way, there is not a single manuscript to confirm Smith's translation and/or to predate the Book of Mormon. Sorry, but textology and history are not on Smith's side of the road. 😢
@@anthonyterry2896 did Joseph Smith write a new Bible he thought was more true? And a key argument I have heard by Mormons is that the early church distorted the scriptures and fell away. Yet as the video showed, the scriptures we have today are more accurate than Joseph Smiths "inspired version", I believe it's called. Were those arguments false? I don't see how. And did Joseph Smith make an unfulfilled prophecy for a temple in Missouri? What do you know about that?
@@anthonyterry2896 I am honestly appalled at the Bible Joseph Smith wrote. It's like a forgery using the Bible, but why would anyone insert text into the scriptures so deceptively? It's really a sick thing to think about
This video is a blessing to so many. My uncle and his family are part of the Mormon religion and I pray this video will help him see Gods truth. Pray for us. Love to all.
After watching the first 17 minutes this video is one of the most dishonest videos I think I have seen about my church. Please don't fall for this. When I have the questions written it is going to be more of the intent of the question instead of word for word what the question was. For example, the first question word for word was “this is what you would trust in or would it be like this” and with context with the video it makes sense but for this it wouldn’t. Also if there is a statement or something else I want to respond to then I will write it out. After watching this, there is no way Greg is an active member of our church and he definitely doesn’t know what he is talking about, I will explain as it comes up. (“Which one has more authority or precedent, the bible or the Book of Mormon?”) This is a dumb question, What you are asking is the equivalent of asking which takes more precedence Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John? There are different things and lessons said in all 4 and each one is of value. Taking one of the 4 out and you would lose a lot of the message of God and story and witness of Jesus Christ. (“The abominable church is the early christian church”) That isn’t true. The abominable church is anyone, past or present, who claims to be of Christ with their lips but denies him in actions. (Matthew 7:21-23, James 2:14-26, Ephesians 2:10, Titus 1:16, Isaiah 29:13) When Joel was talking to the linguist, the linguist avoided the topic. When asked about if the bible has been corrupted he doesn’t answer and insteads talks about the Book of Mormon manuscripts. What makes it even funnier is that Joel said there are no manuscripts like it completely negates what is said in Nephi, it doesn’t. Nothing was said here that disproves what is said in Nephi. (Greg “There has been one manuscript and as it faded over time then monks would free copy it over and over again”) That is not at all how the apostasy is described in our church. This is why I don’t believe Greg is truly a member because most people would have given the answer of “the proper authority died with the apostles”. My answer would have referenced it but not anywhere close to what Greg said. This whole section is pointless when you realize Greg isn’t saying that we actually believe. And again, having no manuscripts for the Book of Mormon doesn’t disprove the claim of things not being taken out of the bible. (Joel “Would you be able to tell if monks didn’t like something they would just take it out?” Linguist “Impossible”) Yea, the linguist is false here because we know it did happen with multiple versions and is very historically accurate. The New International Version (NIV) bible and every other translation since the 1900s are the biggest examples of this. In Genesis 2:19 a translation such as the New Revised Standard Version uses "formed" in a plain past tense: "So out of the ground the LORD God *formed* every animal". The NIV's version is "Now the LORD God *had formed* out of the ground all the wild animals" to try to make it appear that the animals had already been created. Not only is the translation not correct but it misses the very point of the narrative and changes the meaning of the verse, that the animals were created in response to God's declaration that it was not good that Adam should be alone. The NIV has also changed verses to be more gender neutral, changing “mankind” into “human beings” for example. Most newer translations have been translated from the manuscripts and they don’t match older bibles. Let’s compare the NIV to the KJV KJV Luke 9:56 *“For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them.* And they went to another village” NIV Luke 9:56 “Then he and his disciples went to another village.” KJV Ephesians 3:9 “And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things *by Jesus Christ”* NIV Ephesians 3:9 “and to make plain to everyone the administration of this mystery, which for ages past was kept hidden in God, who created all things.” KJV Ephesians 5:9 “(For the fruit of the *Spirit* is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;) NIV Ephesians 5:9 “(for the fruit of the *light* consists in all goodness, righteousness and truth) KJV Revelations 13:1 *“And I stood upon the sand of the sea,* and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.” NIV Revelations 13:1 *“The dragon stood on the shore of the sea.* And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.” Matthew 18:11, Matthew 17:21, Matthew 23:14, Mark 7:16, Mark 9:44, Mark 9:46, Mark 11:26, Mark 15:28, Luke 17:36, John 5:3-4, Acts 8:37, Acts 15:34, Acts 24:6-8, Acts 28:29, Romans 16:24 have all been removed from the NIV and other newer translations. Mark 10:18 in the 1611 edition of the King James Version reads "why callest thou me good? There is *no man* good, but one, that is God". The phrase ‘no man’ was removed from every subsequent printing of the King James Bible even though the same Greek word that underlies the 1611 rendition (oudeis) is also translated ‘no man’ in Revelation 7:9 and 14:3 1 Corinthians 7:8 when read in english says "To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is good for them to remain unmarried as I am." giving the impression that he is talking to all unmarried people and widows. However, The Greek word translated "the unmarried" (agamois) has a masculine ending, meaning it can only refer to males. Unlike English, in Greek (like many other languages) words referring to people have different endings depending on whether males or females are being talked about. It is far more likely that "the unmarried" was supposed to mean widowers, men whose wives had died. This makes good sense of the masculine ending and goes well with the accompanying "widows". It makes sense that Paul would deal with widowers and widows together. Hellenistic Greek (the language in which the New Testament was written) has no word for a "widower" so the Greek word "agamos" which is found in verse 8 and translated to "the unmarried", was used instead. So verse 8 would be better translated and *understood* as "I say therefore to the widower and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I". This is saying nothing about or is to people who were never married and is saying for widows or widowers to not get remarried. Should I keep hammering this point in with researching the KJV and what King James changed or do you get it now? The way words or text are translated can affect what is being said or meant and it can only take a slight variation for a verse to lose its original meaning. This was more or less off the top of my head and with about ~15 mins of research for clarification (The last 2 paragraphs I actually had saved for other "gotch ya" questions so that is why I knew it), what do think I could find out if I actually sat here and spent the time to research? What is really frustrating is that this whole time he hasn’t even asked “What was taken out of the gospel?” or “What are the plain and precious things that were taken out?”. How can you say something wasn’t taken out or the prophecies of something being taken out is wrong when you don’t even know what you are looking for? This “conclusion” is very disingenuous and honestly a huge strawman. Here is the answer to "what was taken out of the gospel" To clarify, when the Book of Mormon talks of plain and precious things being taken out of the gosepl it isn't just meaning the bible, it is also how christians explain and teach the message of the bible. How the relationship of God and Jesus Christ is described, necessity of baptism and the proper way to do it and when you are really considered "saved", baptism for the dead/preaching to the dead, proper priesthood authority, the laying on of hands to recieve the gift of the Holy Ghost, keeping the commandments and not being a sinner and actually following Christ, exaltation, 3 kingdoms of glory, not worshipping idols (the cross and pictures/statues of Jesus Christ and Mary for Catholics), Creation ex Nihilo, Purgatory (For Catholics), God being a spirit, marriages continuing in heaven, and the importance of temples are all things that have been removed or changed or added later by creeds or you teach these things despite it going against the bible. All of this can be shown from the bible and/or history and I can very much expand on each of these points for you. The Book of Mormon is true and Nephi was a real prophet who lived anciently. The Church of Jesus Christ is God's and Jesus Christ's true church here on earth, the evidence is there to back us up but the problem is people have to look at it and/or read and understand the bible. I haven't watched the rest of this but you want me to tear apart the rest of this video then I can but I am leaving it here for now.
@@dylanwilliams2202 How do you explain the prophecies recorded in the Book of Mormon that were not true? Or did not come true? The test from the Old Testament still stands strong. For example, around 22:00 Alma’s prophecy about the Christ’s birth was proven wrong. And thank you for the information you provided. Have a good night and God bless.
@@hillbilly2424 Saying that Alma got the place where Christ was born wrong is slightly unfair. Let me put that in perspective, if I told you I lived in Glen Burnie you most likely wouldn't know where that is and would ask "Where is that?". If I told you I lived in Baltimore then you would have a better idea of where that is and not ask me anything. Bethlehem during Christ's day wouldn't have been very big or all that well known. Also saying Bethlehem is in the land of Jerusalem isn't unique to the Book of Mormon. In 1887, some Ancient Near Eastern documents known as the Amarna letters, were discovered. Near Eastern scholar D. Kelly Ogden described these The ancient writer of El Amarna letter 290 even refers to Bethlehem as part of the land of Jerusalem. "But now even a town of the land of Jerusalem, Bit-Lahmi (Bethlehem) by name, a town belonging to the king, has gone over to the side of the people of Keilah"
The bar is quite low for being “saved” according to evangelical doctrine. Many LDS followers meet the standards of being saved. To exclude the LDS from being saved is an erroneous and judgmental conclusion.
@@gregj4509 No Greg, Not if they put their faith in the word of Joseph Smith. Not if they practice and live their lives according to JSmith when it is proven by Gods standard that he was Not a true prophet. Knowing that, how can you continue on with this group. I pray that God opens your eyes.
What a gracious, gentle, truthful and kind sharing of the gospel. I felt this deep sorrow inside my stomach as I saw how disappointed he was as everything he had believed throughout his life was being exposed as false. The Lord has His hand on this man, and when he finally comes to terms with the truth, what joy and freedom he will experience. Thank you Joel for making this video and for so graciously helping to open the eyes of the blind. "Come, let us reason together..."
This breaks My 💔 because I starting thinking about all the people in the world that are being deceived. I thank God for the truth & I'm glad you were able to open his eyes. Praying that more Mormon's see this video & are awakened to the truth!!! The Bible is infallible & the Inspired Word of God!!! 🙏🙏🙏
Just witness the Truth to them and Live it. The rest will fall into place. "And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me". John 12:32 Most of the churches fail God in their example
@@TWC6724 I have downloaded the TrueLife RU-vid video "Are Jehovah's Witnesses Right?" on my phone; I hope to be able to show it to a J.W. someday. :) The video contains three ex-J.W.s who describe the various problems with that faith (e.g. the J.W. leadership in New York keeps saying that the world is about to come to an end (like in 1975) but it never comes true).
This is so well researched and presented. The Mormon is so transparent and humble in accepting the evidence rather than lashing out. I can see that he is in anguish because his commitment to his childhood faith.
Amen! To be fair to the Mormon community, I’ve personally never met a rude one. Though misled, they have always been good people to me on a personal basis.
@@jawshh559 why do you feel they are misled? Honestly, I have read and studied the bible. And i am currently reading the book of Mormon. Having spent a lot of time studying the bible, i see nothing but support of the bible, in the book of Mormon. I've been to the Mormon Church, and never have i experienced a more humble and spiritual people. God sent me a revelation, and told me this was a worthy church. After i had visited many many other churches. I would like to know why you feel they are mislead, because i don't see that at all. And after God answered a prayer i said to him, i believe the Mormons are actually more on track than any other church!
@@aliceleslie7704 Hi Alice, I can completely relate to what you are saying and feeling. Many of the things in the Mormon church seem to be good from the outside and this is why so many are attracted to it. But, having been raised in the Mormon church, I can tell you that this is deceiving. I love the Mormon people as many of my family are in the Mormon church so I say this in all love and I have no desire to offend them or you. There are many things in the Mormon religion that do not line up with GOD’s word, I believe this example to be the most simple: Mormons believe that if they live a life in which they follow all the rules and rites, they will become gods of their own planets. This is the original lie from the serpent in the garden of Eden and it is the foundation of many religions in the world. Genesis 2:4-5 - The serpent said to the woman “you will not surely die. For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God…” God has given us His word and we can trust it. The serpent is crafty and he knows the Bible well and he will do whatever he can to get you to believe the lie.
He looks to me like a true Man of God: In what he loves God and is looking for him, sincerily in his heart. This whole thing, might have been unconfortable, but a huge leap forward for him.
@@Angarsk100 I guessing his investment is to much a stumbling block for him. Like the young wealthy man that JESUS told to sell everything and follow him in Mat. 19:16-22.
The amount of dishonesty involved with their representatives would make this hard to do, unless the person interviewing is extremely well versed in the Quran such as Sam Shamoun
@builderphill1361 they then say "the Bible has been corrupt!" A easy response is " since you all claim the Torah and b8ble are God's previous revelations, are you calling him a liar/ weak enough he couldn't protect it himself?
It both breaks my heart and reaffirms my faith to see this man confronted with God’s word. And I realize how much love it takes for us believers to watch the revelation that a life has been built on the premise of faulty beliefs.
🌱😀🌱 Iron sharpens Iron Hidden Message in the Torah /Tanak / Bible Believe as a child Hidden within within the genealogy first Sons from Adam. Genesis 5 : 3-32 NAMES ---- Name MEANINGS Adam - Man Seth - Appointed Enos - Mortal Cainan - Sarrow Mahalaleel - Blessed GOD Jared - Shall come Down Enoch - Teaching Methuselah -His Death shall Bring Lamech -To Make /Low Mighity Noah -Rest / Favor / Fulfilled Name Meanings written in a Sentence 😳 Man appointed mortal Sarrow Blessed GOD shall come down teaching His death shall bring to make low/MIGHTY , rest favor FULFILLED My Interpretation: Jesus given a task to preform from this earth feeling of deep distress BLESSED GOD shall come down as Jesus teaching Jew as a Rabbi His death shall bring SALVATION to make low to hang on a tree becomes MIGHTY rest/ favor/ FULFILLED HIS Purpose 🤔 Keep this in mind 🤔all 10 generations timeline took place up to chapter 5 of Genesis ,Hidden Message telling Jesus COMING 😲 Approximately 4 thousand years later be fore it HAPPENED only God Ten Trillion people could not gotten together and had have written 1 fact and placed it in a book Foretelling of there coming Christ 4K years before it Happened The Truth will set you Free Who is He ? Choose you this day whom you SERVE 🤔✝️😇😇 Jesus Loves You Believe ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST You are BORN AGAIN I
A gentle gospel proclamation with love. This is just beautiful and I pray for this brother and his family and his youtube channel to be strong and save souls for our master Jesus Christ 🙏 ❤️
I love seeing a man be humbled by the power of the truth of Gods word. God protects us so thoroughly, so perfectly, so lovingly. God is truth, he speaks only truth.
This is the most clear, straightforward and yes, respectful debunking of the book of Mormon I have ever heard. And it was done with calm reasoning, and thorough research. Thank you!
This video nicely compliments the TrueLife RU-vid video "Is Mormonism True?", where the problems with The Pearl of Great Price re: Joseph Smith's translation vs. the translation using the Rosetta Stone are discussed.
After watching the first 17 minutes this video is one of the most dishonest videos I think I have seen about my church. Please don't fall for this. When I have the questions written it is going to be more of the intent of the question instead of word for word what the question was. For example, the first question word for word was “this is what you would trust in or would it be like this” and with context with the video it makes sense but for this it wouldn’t. Also if there is a statement or something else I want to respond to then I will write it out. After watching this, there is no way Greg is an active member of our church and he definitely doesn’t know what he is talking about, I will explain as it comes up. (“Which one has more authority or precedent, the bible or the Book of Mormon?”) This is a dumb question, What you are asking is the equivalent of asking which takes more precedence Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John? There are different things and lessons said in all 4 and each one is of value. Taking one of the 4 out and you would lose a lot of the message of God and story and witness of Jesus Christ. (“The abominable church is the early christian church”) That isn’t true. The abominable church is anyone, past or present, who claims to be of Christ with their lips but denies him in actions. (Matthew 7:21-23, James 2:14-26, Ephesians 2:10, Titus 1:16, Isaiah 29:13) When Joel was talking to the linguist, the linguist avoided the topic. When asked about if the bible has been corrupted he doesn’t answer and insteads talks about the Book of Mormon manuscripts. What makes it even funnier is that Joel said there are no manuscripts like it completely negates what is said in Nephi, it doesn’t. Nothing was said here that disproves what is said in Nephi. (Greg “There has been one manuscript and as it faded over time then monks would free copy it over and over again”) That is not at all how the apostasy is described in our church. This is why I don’t believe Greg is truly a member because most people would have given the answer of “the proper authority died with the apostles”. My answer would have referenced it but not anywhere close to what Greg said. This whole section is pointless when you realize Greg isn’t saying that we actually believe. And again, having no manuscripts for the Book of Mormon doesn’t disprove the claim of things not being taken out of the bible. (Joel “Would you be able to tell if monks didn’t like something they would just take it out?” Linguist “Impossible”) Yea, the linguist is false here because we know it did happen with multiple versions and is very historically accurate. The New International Version (NIV) bible and every other translation since the 1900s are the biggest examples of this. In Genesis 2:19 a translation such as the New Revised Standard Version uses "formed" in a plain past tense: "So out of the ground the LORD God *formed* every animal". The NIV's version is "Now the LORD God *had formed* out of the ground all the wild animals" to try to make it appear that the animals had already been created. Not only is the translation not correct but it misses the very point of the narrative and changes the meaning of the verse, that the animals were created in response to God's declaration that it was not good that Adam should be alone. The NIV has also changed verses to be more gender neutral, changing “mankind” into “human beings” for example. Most newer translations have been translated from the manuscripts and they don’t match older bibles. Let’s compare the NIV to the KJV KJV Luke 9:56 *“For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them.* And they went to another village” NIV Luke 9:56 “Then he and his disciples went to another village.” KJV Ephesians 3:9 “And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things *by Jesus Christ”* NIV Ephesians 3:9 “and to make plain to everyone the administration of this mystery, which for ages past was kept hidden in God, who created all things.” KJV Ephesians 5:9 “(For the fruit of the *Spirit* is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;) NIV Ephesians 5:9 “(for the fruit of the *light* consists in all goodness, righteousness and truth) KJV Revelations 13:1 *“And I stood upon the sand of the sea,* and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.” NIV Revelations 13:1 *“The dragon stood on the shore of the sea.* And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.” Matthew 18:11, Matthew 17:21, Matthew 23:14, Mark 7:16, Mark 9:44, Mark 9:46, Mark 11:26, Mark 15:28, Luke 17:36, John 5:3-4, Acts 8:37, Acts 15:34, Acts 24:6-8, Acts 28:29, Romans 16:24 have all been removed from the NIV and other newer translations. Mark 10:18 in the 1611 edition of the King James Version reads "why callest thou me good? There is *no man* good, but one, that is God". The phrase ‘no man’ was removed from every subsequent printing of the King James Bible even though the same Greek word that underlies the 1611 rendition (oudeis) is also translated ‘no man’ in Revelation 7:9 and 14:3 1 Corinthians 7:8 when read in english says "To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is good for them to remain unmarried as I am." giving the impression that he is talking to all unmarried people and widows. However, The Greek word translated "the unmarried" (agamois) has a masculine ending, meaning it can only refer to males. Unlike English, in Greek (like many other languages) words referring to people have different endings depending on whether males or females are being talked about. It is far more likely that "the unmarried" was supposed to mean widowers, men whose wives had died. This makes good sense of the masculine ending and goes well with the accompanying "widows". It makes sense that Paul would deal with widowers and widows together. Hellenistic Greek (the language in which the New Testament was written) has no word for a "widower" so the Greek word "agamos" which is found in verse 8 and translated to "the unmarried", was used instead. So verse 8 would be better translated and *understood* as "I say therefore to the widower and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I". This is saying nothing about or is to people who were never married and is saying for widows or widowers to not get remarried. Should I keep hammering this point in with researching the KJV and what King James changed or do you get it now? The way words or text are translated can affect what is being said or meant and it can only take a slight variation for a verse to lose its original meaning. This was more or less off the top of my head and with about ~15 mins of research for clarification (The last 2 paragraphs I actually had saved for other "gotch ya" questions so that is why I knew it), what do think I could find out if I actually sat here and spent the time to research? What is really frustrating is that this whole time he hasn’t even asked “What was taken out of the gospel?” or “What are the plain and precious things that were taken out?”. How can you say something wasn’t taken out or the prophecies of something being taken out is wrong when you don’t even know what you are looking for? This “conclusion” is very disingenuous and honestly a huge strawman. Here is the answer to "what was taken out of the gospel" To clarify, when the Book of Mormon talks of plain and precious things being taken out of the gosepl it isn't just meaning the bible, it is also how christians explain and teach the message of the bible. How the relationship of God and Jesus Christ is described, necessity of baptism and the proper way to do it and when you are really considered "saved", baptism for the dead/preaching to the dead, proper priesthood authority, the laying on of hands to recieve the gift of the Holy Ghost, keeping the commandments and not being a sinner and actually following Christ, exaltation, 3 kingdoms of glory, not worshipping idols (the cross and pictures/statues of Jesus Christ and Mary for Catholics), Creation ex Nihilo, Purgatory (For Catholics), God being a spirit, marriages continuing in heaven, and the importance of temples are all things that have been removed or changed or added later by creeds or you teach these things despite it going against the bible. All of this can be shown from the bible and/or history and I can very much expand on each of these points for you. The Book of Mormon is true and Nephi was a real prophet who lived anciently. The Church of Jesus Christ is God's and Jesus Christ's true church here on earth, the evidence is there to back us up but the problem is people have to look at it and/or read and understand the bible. I haven't watched the rest of this but you want me to tear apart the rest of this video then I can but I am leaving it here for now.
@@dylanwilliams2202 Please give Agrological evidence for the existence of the prophets that wrote the book of Mormon? and also why did the prophesy of building in Missouri never came true to this day?
@@apoligetics7 "Please give Agrological evidence for the existence of the prophets that wrote the book of Mormon?" How would you like or even expect me to do that? Modern North American archeologists don't know much about the people who lived here anciently and they definitely don't know the names of very many specific people, especially going as far back as 400 AD. I can give you evidence for the credibility of the Book of Mormon in general but if you are wanting a signed document then I can't produce a signed document from a Book of Mormon prophet because documents from that time period (600 BC - 400 AD) have not been found yet (or the Spaniards destoryed it when they came to America.) Not to mention, every old testament prophet like Abraham, Jacob, Isaac, Noah, Moses, etc has no evidence they exist except for the bible. If an Atheist asked for "evidence for the existence" of them, how would you respond? If I were to guess you would give evidence of things that happened instead of a signed document. "why did the prophesy of building in Missouri never came true to this day?" The Missouri temple was a command, not a prophecy. Doctrine and Covenants 124:49 and 51 confirms this. Doctrine and Covenants 124:49 "Verily, verily, I say unto you, that when I give a commandment to any of the sons of men to do a work unto my name, and those sons of men go with all their might and with all they have to perform that work, and cease not their diligence, and their enemies come upon them and hinder them from performing that work, behold, it behooveth me to require that work no more at the hands of those sons of men, but to accept of their offerings."... 51 "Therefore, for this cause have I accepted the offerings of those whom I commanded to build up a city and a house unto my name, in Jackson county, Missouri, and were hindered by their enemies, saith the Lord your God." This straight up confirms, without requiring any speculation on the matter, that this was a commandment, not a prophecy, and that God mercifully rescinded it because of the Saints' literal inability to follow because of being persecuted by Missourians despite their best efforts. This isn't an apologists opinion, it is our scriptures straight up saying it was a commandment that God later revoked. Yes in D&C 84:2-5 it does say “shall”, however from the Webster’s Dictionary 1828 definition of “Shall”: “In the second and third persons [i.e., when applied to another person], shall implies a promise, command or determination. "You shall receive your wages," "he shall receive his wages," imply that you or he ought to receive them; but usage gives these phrases the force of a promise in the person uttering them."
@@dylanwilliams2202 Just to clarify I am not attacking your belief or faith just trying to understand, It just seems weird to me that God would give you a commandment and then it has to be revoked because of being persecuted , does God not know the future? And will He not only give you a command if He opens the doors to fulfil that command
Thank you for making this video, I am an Exmormon Born Again Christian, I live in northern Utah and have many friends who are still lost. I will share this with them and hope it changes their mind. God Bless!!
No you are the one who is lost buddy. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is God's and Jesus Christ true church here on earth. We know and teach the bible better than any other denomination. You have fallen for the philosophies of man mingled with scripture.
@@dylanwilliams2202once you’re born again, you will truly understand and see the heresy and blasphemous teachings of the Mormon church. Until then I’ll pray for you that one day Christ will work in your heart and regenerate you.
@@marcogonzalez2914 Lol you don't even know what it means to be "born again" because the protestant definition is wrong and unbiblical. When you are baptized you have become born again Romans 6:4 "Therefore *we were buried with him by baptism into death,* so that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, *so we also might walk in newness of life"* Titus 3:5 "he saved us, not because of any works of righteousness that we had done, but according to his mercy, *through the water of rebirth* and renewal by the Holy Spirit." The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is God's and Jesus Christ one and only true church here on earth. We know and teach the Bible and gospel better than any other denomination. If something is heretical to your false creeds then that means nothing to us. That being said, only 2 things that I know of that we teach have been heretical teachings, being Souls being Eternal and baptism for the dead. But again, we don't care. Instead of just a nothing statement, come up with an actual argument.
Just had some Mormon missionaries come to my door. I had just recently watched this and so was able to discuss in brief some of these points with them. They gave me a copy of their book of Mormon and later my son and I followed along in real time your points about Isaiah 29. What a great opportunity to give my son of real world example of "testing the spirits" in considering what is true. Thank you for such a clear presentation of the truth-claims and facts!
Wow, amazing job! I will be sharing this with my Mormon family members and pray they see who they are truly following 🙏 I was almost a Jehovah witness myself at one point, but my eyes were truly opened by YAH 🙌
🌱😀🌱 Iron sharpens Iron Hidden Message in the Torah /Tanak / Bible Believe as a child Hidden within within the genealogy first Sons from Adam. Genesis 5 : 3-32 NAMES ---- Name MEANINGS Adam - Man Seth - Appointed Enos - Mortal Cainan - Sarrow Mahalaleel - Blessed GOD Jared - Shall come Down Enoch - Teaching Methuselah -His Death shall Bring Lamech -To Make /Low Mighity Noah -Rest / Favor / Fulfilled Name Meanings written in a Sentence 😳 Man appointed mortal Sarrow Blessed GOD shall come down teaching His death shall bring to make low/MIGHTY , rest favor FULFILLED My Interpretation: Jesus given a task to preform from this earth feeling of deep distress BLESSED GOD shall come down as Jesus teaching Jew as a Rabbi His death shall bring SALVATION to make low to hang on a tree becomes MIGHTY rest/ favor/ FULFILLED HIS Purpose 🤔 Keep this in mind 🤔all 10 generations timeline took place up to chapter 5 of Genesis ,Hidden Message telling Jesus COMING 😲 Approximately 4 thousand years later be fore it HAPPENED only God Ten Trillion people could not gotten together and had have written 1 fact and placed it in a book Foretelling of there coming Christ 4K years before it Happened The Truth will set you Free Who is He ? Choose you this day whom you SERVE 🤔✝️😇😇 Jesus Loves You Believe ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST You are BORN AGAIN I
@cindybin2001 are you a bot? You seem to say the same few sentences over and over. Yet, in all the multiple posts you have written under this video, I have not seen you present a single, valid argument against anything addressed in it. Joseph Smith has been shown to be a false prophet here. There are no witnesses to his receiving the book of Mormon from heaven, no manuscripts predating his lifetime and no evidence in the 1,000's of early manuscripts of scripture of these so-called missing portions or different verses. It all originates with Joseph Smith. What more evidence do you need?
Great video! I’m currently going through a faith transition out of the LDS church and after discovering that I had been misled I struggled to trust the Bible. It is nice to know that the Bible has actual historical evidence for its claims, unlike the BOM. I had no idea how much Joseph smith added to the Bible! I still go to church because of my family but I can’t stand it when I hear people stand up on the pulpit and call Joseph smith a prophet. I want to know who Jesus really is but don’t know who to talk to. Thank you for presenting this video so well, it has given be a renewed trust in the Bible.
Dear Braiden, my heart weeps for you, I love you and I would love to show you how you can have a Peace in your soul by only showing you verses in the Bible. I have found the answer in God's word over 42 years ago at the age of 30 and I was broken and thought that I would never know for sure of Heaven. I am not going to try to get you to join a church, I am not wanting any money, my Bible tells me that it is a Gift of God we do not need to work for it. I have had Joy and Happiness and a Peace that passeth all Understanding for now over 42 years, and I would love to show you the way, only by way of the Bible. If you wish to converse with me, I would love to try to lead you to the truth of God Himself, so you can have the same assurance that God Himself gave me. I no longer fear to die because I know this, that when that happens, I will go directly into Heaven to be with Jesus for all Eternity. He says to the True Christian that if He goes and prepares a place for us He will come again for us. That is His promise!
Hello, thank you for your kind comment. I would love to converse with you. I feel disconnected to god since I stopped believing in the Mormon faith. I’m not sure I really ever knew him. I want to though. Where should I start? I’ve been trying to read a Bible the NIV but I have questions that I need clarity on. For example I’m still not sure if the trinitarian god is real or if they are separate. I need to find a group to talk with
@@braidenmccaleb9027 Dear Braiden, we just left on vacation and I got your message, it made me happy. I want very much to point you to the True Jesus. I am on my phone and I have a very hard time to text. We will be gone for 21 days, l would hope you will still want to know more when we get back. I would like for you to read some of my responses that I sent to another RU-vid Video, If you would have an open heart when reading them I would think that you will learn something very special. Please, first find and read the ones that I wrote to Dave in the order that I had written them so you can get the connection. After you read those then and only then, Please read the ones that I wrote to "Gideon Qwikfut" also in the order of my writings so you get the connection. The RU-vid Video is called, "Was Joseph Smith a false prophet?" Dear Braiden, I beg of you to ask God to open your mind and mean it with all your, If you will do that you will be on the road of more happiness than you have ever known because I found that over 42 years ago when I was only 30 years of age. I have never lost that Security. You might ask why do I really care? It is because I love you and I care. Most importantly my Lord Jesus cares about you.
I seen this documentary years ago and was just recently in the last few weeks wondering what happened with this gentleman. He’s an honest man that seems to be very open to the truth. I pray that he came to believe the truth and is doing great things for the kingdom of God today 🙏🏻
Have you come to a saving faith in Jesus Christ since you left the Mormons? Come to believe that He is God and came to die for your sins on a cross, so that by faith in Him you could be saved not by your own works, but rather through His finished work , His free gift?
Joel, excellent content as always. I'm also impressed with the high production values of the videos. All those "little" touches such as actually discussing the issues with scholars like Barkay, Gibson, etc., --much more impressive than just quoting them. Same with showing the actual verses in context. Anyone who has created videos will appreciate the work put into this. Much appreciated!
🌱😀🌱 Iron sharpens Iron Hidden Message in the Torah /Tanak / Bible Believe as a child Hidden within within the genealogy first Sons from Adam. Genesis 5 : 3-32 NAMES ---- Name MEANINGS Adam - Man Seth - Appointed Enos - Mortal Cainan - Sarrow Mahalaleel - Blessed GOD Jared - Shall come Down Enoch - Teaching Methuselah -His Death shall Bring Lamech -To Make /Low Mighity Noah -Rest / Favor / Fulfilled Name Meanings written in a Sentence 😳 Man appointed mortal Sarrow Blessed GOD shall come down teaching His death shall bring to make low/MIGHTY , rest favor FULFILLED My Interpretation: Jesus given a task to preform from this earth feeling of deep distress BLESSED GOD shall come down as Jesus teaching Jew as a Rabbi His death shall bring SALVATION to make low to hang on a tree becomes MIGHTY rest/ favor/ FULFILLED HIS Purpose 🤔 Keep this in mind 🤔all 10 generations timeline took place up to chapter 5 of Genesis ,Hidden Message telling Jesus COMING 😲 Approximately 4 thousand years later be fore it HAPPENED only God Ten Trillion people could not gotten together and had have written 1 fact and placed it in a book Foretelling of there coming Christ 4K years before it Happened The Truth will set you Free Who is He ? Choose you this day whom you SERVE 🤔✝️😇😇 Jesus Loves You Believe ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST You are BORN AGAIN I
@cindybin2001 so I was reading on the debunking on it, and it was said that the Missouri temple during his lifetime one was resented later but profecy isn't supposed to be redone when it doesn't work out, it just wasn't profetic if it is changed. I use to be an LDs member what git me was Jesus saying you fools we are not married in heaven then also the water into wine showing us there is a time for it.
@@holzlastname1976 All three places this is said in (Matthew 22:30, Mark 12:25 and Luke 20:35) makes it very clear that it is talking about the resurrection. The Greek word there is "anastasei" which translates to resurrection. If they wanted to use heaven then they would have used "ouranō". They didn't, which is why it reads as "For in the resurrection (anastasei) they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven (ouranō)." How you equate Jesus talking about no marriage during the resurrection, an event, to meaning no marriage in heaven, a place, is beyond me. If you read our own scriptures then you will find it actually agrees with these passages. It says that if your marriage isn't by God then when you are dead you will not be married and be appointed angels in heaven. (If you care to look it's D&C 132:15-16). In Greek, the language this was originally written in, the expressions “marry” (gamousin) and “given in marriage” (gamizontai) translate forms of the related Greek verbs gameō and gamizō, which have to do with the act of becoming married. The first verb is used here to refer to men and the second to women. If Matthew, Mark or Luke had wanted to say that Christ had said something like “Neither are they now in a married state" (because of previously performed weddings) then in Greek they would have used a perfect tense (gegamēkasin) or a participial form (gamēsas) of the verb. They did not, so that cannot be what Jesus meant. Jesus said nothing about the married state of those who are in heaven only that there isn't marriage during the resurrection. The source of the story the Sadducees told Jesus comes from one of the books in the Apocrypha, Tobit. A woman was married to seven men, each of whom died on the wedding night but then had an 8th husband, Tobias the son of Tobit (because she belonged to Tobias by right of inheritance), that was decided in heaven and she would be his in the hereafter. (Tobit 7:10-11). Raphael (the archangel) was even sent to marry the woman to Tobias. (Tobit 3:17). Jesus probably had this account in mind when He told the Sadducees "You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God" because they had neglected to note that the woman had married an 8th husband and that God had sent an angel to marry them so that there marriage was recognized in heaven. I would say that to you, You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is God's and Jesus Christ true church here on earth. We know and teach the bible better than any other denomination. Rejoin God and Jesus Christ in their Kingdom and rejoin their true church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and learn all that they have to offer. Learn of their glory and mercy, learn of the plan they have of you. Also, it is a historical fact that the wine being spoken of in the bible was more similar to grape juice than what we would consider wine to be.
I feel so bad for the man. I remember being in this position and I also said "i don't know what to believe anymore". It's tough when you realize you believed in a lie your entire life.
It must be tough, but also freeing. No more trying to earn salvation, no more saved today/condemned tmrw stress. Just Jesus is all you need, He is enough!
@@Kalico_Kid I believed in God my entire life but I also believed and practiced in so many non-biblical things that I thought honored God. And also did not practice sabbath which was the first of the commandments. But the walk with Christ I guess is a process.
This is a beautiful awakening for this humble, wonderful Mormon man. He was so open and willing to open his heart and mind to truth. As the Lord said, ‘Come, let us reason together.’ I hope this man chose to turn his back to this false religion and turn his heart to Jesus. God please bless and help him. God bless Joel as well.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is God's and Jesus Christ true church here on earth. Gregg has turned his heart to Christ because we believe in the true God and Jesus Christ of the Bible. Jesus Christ who is Lord (Romans 10:9, 1 Corinthians 8:6, Philippians 2:11) and the Son of God (Matthew 3:17, Matthew 17:5, John 10:36), who is our mediator with God (1 Timothy 2:5), who said that God the father is greater (John 14:28) and that God was his God (John 20:17), who wanted us to be one with Him and God as they are with each other (John 17:21-23). To us there is one God, the Father and one Lord, Jesus Christ. (1 Corinthians 8:6). You believe in a pagan and unbiblical version of God and Jesus Christ made popular by the christian creeds, this 1 entity in 3 personages or this 3 entity in 1 personage thing. You believe they are 3 in one and the same but also separate and distinct but also the same yet not also. God is not the author of confusion (1 Corinthians 14:33) and that is confusing. There is no verse in the bible to back up your pagan belief and to explain it you have to use sources that came centuries later.
This is amazing. The love and gentleness with which you walked him through that is truly Christlike. My heart breaks for Greg, and I pray that God shows him the peace and the rest found in the free grace of Jesus.
Beautifully done. I have shared this to my social media in the (prayerful) hopes that my extended family members, many devout 1st, 2nd & even 3rd generation mormons, will watch this and get saved/are delivered from the Mormon church. Some even served in the temple and in their ward or in the case of my cousin a teacher at a private Mormon school. Please pray for their salvation 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 God bless you ❤❤❤
I got to say, this is the third time I’ve rewatched this video and have learned something new each time. The amount of effort and energy it takes to make a free video like this is extraordinary. God is truly using your gifts for great things and your vids have inspired me greatly. Praying that these videos may continue to be a light to others.
I work from home and I work for myself.. and I am so blessed to be able to watch RU-vid anytime I want and I spend many hours a week on here. And I mostly watch great Christian channels.. and out of many thousands of channels, this one is absolutely one of my favorite channels! Please keep making more beautiful videos bc Jesus is coming back very soon!!! God bless you & love you all who put each episode together! Praying for you all!!! MARANATHA!
I couldn’t hold myself to tears when I was watching this well made video. I praise God for Joel, for his knowledge of the Truth, as much as I do the same for Greg, for his openness and humility! Let all the scholars/archaeologists, biblical or secular, who have contributed to the biblical truth be remembered by all Christ-followers!
I really appreciate the grace and wisdom in which you approached this topic with him. I was raised a Mormon and was saved when I was 20 but it's all the harder for those that have invested so much in that church to face the truth and act on it. I'll be praying for him and those like him.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is God's and Jesus Christ one and only true church here on earth. We know and teach the Bible and gospel better than any other denomination. Join God and Jesus Christ in their Kingdom and join their true church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and learn all that they have to offer. Learn of their glory and mercy, learn of the plan they have of you.
@@thewhitepebblestudio Yea, I said "their" because it is both God's and Jesus Christ's Church. The word "their" is a way to refer to 2 people so I don't understand what you ars trying to say. More so because the whole verse says "Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. *No one comes to the Father except through me."* Jesus Christ is the head of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and only our Church. The rest of you all are disorganized and have no structure, no authority, false teachings and much more.
@@thewhitepebblestudio And yet Paul perfectly describes what the Church of Jesus Christ is supposed to look like in many places like Ephesians 4 and most Christians just gloss over it and forget that Jesus will always have prophets and apostles where His true Church is on the earth.
@@dylanwilliams2202do you just have this programmed testimony saved so you can copy and paste it into the comments section of these videos that debunk the book of mormon and the “prophets”? Mindless cult behavior.
Thank you for this excellent program. I'm not sure I have ever seen anything quite matching the quality of this production and its ability in reaching the goal of showing the truth.
I’m only about 15 minutes into this, which is already incredible! Thank you, Joel, for not being condescending, or even rolling your eyes! Jesus’ Love has truly come through in you! May he continue to bless you, your family and his work! Thank you so very much! John 3:16❤️
After watching the first 17 minutes this video is one of the most dishonest videos I think I have seen about my church. Please don't fall for this. When I have the questions written it is going to be more of the intent of the question instead of word for word what the question was. For example, the first question word for word was “this is what you would trust in or would it be like this” and with context with the video it makes sense but for this it wouldn’t. Also if there is a statement or something else I want to respond to then I will write it out. After watching this, there is no way Greg is an active member of our church and he definitely doesn’t know what he is talking about, I will explain as it comes up. (“Which one has more authority or precedent, the bible or the Book of Mormon?”) This is a dumb question, What you are asking is the equivalent of asking which takes more precedence Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John? There are different things and lessons said in all 4 and each one is of value. Taking one of the 4 out and you would lose a lot of the message of God and story and witness of Jesus Christ. (“The abominable church is the early christian church”) That isn’t true. The abominable church is anyone, past or present, who claims to be of Christ with their lips but denies him in actions. (Matthew 7:21-23, James 2:14-26, Ephesians 2:10, Titus 1:16, Isaiah 29:13) When Joel was talking to the linguist, the linguist avoided the topic. When asked about if the bible has been corrupted he doesn’t answer and insteads talks about the Book of Mormon manuscripts. What makes it even funnier is that Joel said there are no manuscripts like it completely negates what is said in Nephi, it doesn’t. Nothing was said here that disproves what is said in Nephi. (Greg “There has been one manuscript and as it faded over time then monks would free copy it over and over again”) That is not at all how the apostasy is described in our church. This is why I don’t believe Greg is truly a member because most people would have given the answer of “the proper authority died with the apostles”. My answer would have referenced it but not anywhere close to what Greg said. This whole section is pointless when you realize Greg isn’t saying that we actually believe. And again, having no manuscripts for the Book of Mormon doesn’t disprove the claim of things not being taken out of the bible. (Joel “Would you be able to tell if monks didn’t like something they would just take it out?” Linguist “Impossible”) Yea, the linguist is false here because we know it did happen with multiple versions and is very historically accurate. The New International Version (NIV) bible and every other translation since the 1900s are the biggest examples of this. In Genesis 2:19 a translation such as the New Revised Standard Version uses "formed" in a plain past tense: "So out of the ground the LORD God *formed* every animal". The NIV's version is "Now the LORD God *had formed* out of the ground all the wild animals" to try to make it appear that the animals had already been created. Not only is the translation not correct but it misses the very point of the narrative and changes the meaning of the verse, that the animals were created in response to God's declaration that it was not good that Adam should be alone. The NIV has also changed verses to be more gender neutral, changing “mankind” into “human beings” for example. Most newer translations have been translated from the manuscripts and they don’t match older bibles. Let’s compare the NIV to the KJV KJV Luke 9:56 *“For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them.* And they went to another village” NIV Luke 9:56 “Then he and his disciples went to another village.” KJV Ephesians 3:9 “And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things *by Jesus Christ”* NIV Ephesians 3:9 “and to make plain to everyone the administration of this mystery, which for ages past was kept hidden in God, who created all things.” KJV Ephesians 5:9 “(For the fruit of the *Spirit* is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;) NIV Ephesians 5:9 “(for the fruit of the *light* consists in all goodness, righteousness and truth) KJV Revelations 13:1 *“And I stood upon the sand of the sea,* and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.” NIV Revelations 13:1 *“The dragon stood on the shore of the sea.* And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.” Matthew 18:11, Matthew 17:21, Matthew 23:14, Mark 7:16, Mark 9:44, Mark 9:46, Mark 11:26, Mark 15:28, Luke 17:36, John 5:3-4, Acts 8:37, Acts 15:34, Acts 24:6-8, Acts 28:29, Romans 16:24 have all been removed from the NIV and other newer translations. Mark 10:18 in the 1611 edition of the King James Version reads "why callest thou me good? There is *no man* good, but one, that is God". The phrase ‘no man’ was removed from every subsequent printing of the King James Bible even though the same Greek word that underlies the 1611 rendition (oudeis) is also translated ‘no man’ in Revelation 7:9 and 14:3 1 Corinthians 7:8 when read in english says "To the unmarried and the widows I say that it is good for them to remain unmarried as I am." giving the impression that he is talking to all unmarried people and widows. However, The Greek word translated "the unmarried" (agamois) has a masculine ending, meaning it can only refer to males. Unlike English, in Greek (like many other languages) words referring to people have different endings depending on whether males or females are being talked about. It is far more likely that "the unmarried" was supposed to mean widowers, men whose wives had died. This makes good sense of the masculine ending and goes well with the accompanying "widows". It makes sense that Paul would deal with widowers and widows together. Hellenistic Greek (the language in which the New Testament was written) has no word for a "widower" so the Greek word "agamos" which is found in verse 8 and translated to "the unmarried", was used instead. So verse 8 would be better translated and *understood* as "I say therefore to the widower and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I". This is saying nothing about or is to people who were never married and is saying for widows or widowers to not get remarried. Should I keep hammering this point in with researching the KJV and what King James changed or do you get it now? The way words or text are translated can affect what is being said or meant and it can only take a slight variation for a verse to lose its original meaning. This was more or less off the top of my head and with about ~15 mins of research for clarification (The last 2 paragraphs I actually had saved for other "gotch ya" questions so that is why I knew it), what do think I could find out if I actually sat here and spent the time to research? What is really frustrating is that this whole time he hasn’t even asked “What was taken out of the gospel?” or “What are the plain and precious things that were taken out?”. How can you say something wasn’t taken out or the prophecies of something being taken out is wrong when you don’t even know what you are looking for? This “conclusion” is very disingenuous and honestly a huge strawman. Here is the answer to "what was taken out of the gospel" To clarify, when the Book of Mormon talks of plain and precious things being taken out of the gosepl it isn't just meaning the bible, it is also how christians explain and teach the message of the bible. How the relationship of God and Jesus Christ is described, necessity of baptism and the proper way to do it and when you are really considered "saved", baptism for the dead/preaching to the dead, proper priesthood authority, the laying on of hands to recieve the gift of the Holy Ghost, keeping the commandments and not being a sinner and actually following Christ, exaltation, 3 kingdoms of glory, not worshipping idols (the cross and pictures/statues of Jesus Christ and Mary for Catholics), Creation ex Nihilo, Purgatory (For Catholics), God being a spirit, marriages continuing in heaven, and the importance of temples are all things that have been removed or changed or added later by creeds or you teach these things despite it going against the bible. All of this can be shown from the bible and/or history and I can very much expand on each of these points for you. The Book of Mormon is true and Nephi was a real prophet who lived anciently. The Church of Jesus Christ is God's and Jesus Christ's true church here on earth, the evidence is there to back us up but the problem is people have to look at it and/or read and understand the bible. I haven't watched the rest of this but you want me to tear apart the rest of this video then I can but I am leaving it here for now.
@@dylanwilliams2202 Well stated Dylan. And, the rest of the Video is just as atrocious, just a bunch of gaslighting, misdirection, and twisting misinformation. The mere fact there is more than one interpreted translation of the Bible, fulfills Nephi's prophecy. As foretold and declared in the Bible, the full gospel of Jesus Christ would be and was lost from the earth through the apostasy that took place following the earthly ministry of Christ’s Apostles. That apostasy made necessary the Restoration of the gospel. Through visions, the ministering of angels, and revelations to men on the earth (aka Prophets and Apostles), God has restored the fullness of the gospel; which, the Bible also declared would happen before the return of the Savior of the world. It's all there folks. Check & check, yea, the Bible is two for two on these. (or has the restoration not happened like the Bible says would happen, thus, then is the Bible false). See that game could be played all day. Joseph Smith is a Prophet of God, and yes, the New Jerusalem Temple will be built where Joseph said it would be. No worries, this generation, means the generation of the last days, spoken of in the Bible. So even if the walls are barely going up on the temple, when the Lord comes, it's still the last days and qualifies, prophecy still valid. (the vanity of men, Lord, you must fulfill your prophecy on my time frame). So then, since Nephi's prophecy was correct, as part of the restoration of the gospel, in addition to bringing forth the Book of Mormon, to be join with the the Bible, as a witnesses of God, the Lord restored the translation of the Bible as well, through His prophet. Just as Prophets and Apostle of old wrote inspired words, so too does God's current Prophets and Apostles write inspired words. None of the papyrus referenced in this video are the original manuscripts of the prophets, they are someone else's version of stories being told. We know from Paul's "writing", there were even in his day, false teachers who would wrongly interpret and preach their own version of doctrines; if as Paul describes, people were preaching false ideas, they were probably writing them down as well, so yes, there would be papyrus with false teaching and incorrect versions of doctrines. Old doesn't make them true or accurate. The Bible is clear on 'works': We are all saved from death by the Grace of God (Resurrection of the dead), we are then rewarded based on works. Jesus said so Himself. Jesus states in Matthew 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works. How do we glorify our Father in Heaven? Jesus says in Matthew 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven. A couple more on works: James 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And many, many more. No matter how much we profess the Lord's name, we are not getting the best of God's rewards without good works. Plain and simple. Yes, the fullness of the gospel of Christ has been restored in the last days, as was prophesied in the Bible and Book of Mormon. Joseph Smith is a Prophet of God, and who had authority to write scripture inspired by God; the Lord has a living Prophet on the earth today who holds the same keys the Lord gave Peter. The Book of Mormon is true and is another witness of Jesus Christ, The Great Jehovah, The Son of God. Peace and Love
@@marciadiehl5733 So you get to a comment that addresses the video and yet you have nothing to say? Yea, that is what I figured because you don't have the truth. Shouldn't that tell you something? The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is God's and Jesus Christ one and only true church here on earth. We know and teach the Bible and gospel better than any other denomination. Join God and Jesus Christ in their Kingdom and join their true church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, and learn all that they have to offer. Learn of their glory and mercy, learn of the plan they have of you.
Both of y'all's love and compassion of the friendship is truly inspiring. I pray we can all have talks like this. Your research for both sides to make the discussion fair is admirable.
Great job spelling it out clearly. And great job being patient and loving to that guy . It's not easy to sit down and debate these things without being overwhelmed with emotions, on both sides. This was a blueprint on how to help those who are lost without pushing them even further away. In love and truth. I applaud this Mormon guy as well for his patience and ability to swallow his pride and admit to the truth. He's hasn't been defeated, no no no .. he's won and been freed . If he follows up anyways.. I can say with confidence that the world is starving for more of this . Mature adult men sitting down and working out there differences while respecting each other. Far cry from 99.9 % of the rest of the online world where it's just anger , violence, pride, disrespectful and selfish immaturity. It never ends well and only creates more division and hate. This is how we teach the truth to the people of a world controlled by Satan !! GOD BLESS YOU ALL
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Just wow. This was really amazing to watch and study. Even as a Christian, this information really helps to support the reliability of the Word of God, as this is the one thing many unbelievers bring up first. Thank you Joel for all the time and effort you put into each of your video's. Also a thank you to Greg who was willing to participate in this conversation. I can just imagine the distress he may have gone through as the truth started to shine a light on the lies he has believed his entire life. I pray for his salvation, that he may turn towards the authentic Jesus. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. John 1:5
This brought me to tears! I am so grateful that I can say that I follow the Way, the Truth and the Live. This was even for me as a Bible believing Christian so helpful.
Unfortunately for those stuck in Isaiah 6:9-10 and who are missing the miracle of Isaiah 29:14, this video is full of inaccuracies, half-truth, lies, and dishonesty.
Thank you immensely for this documentary. I've written an article that utilized a lot of the insight provided here amongst other sources surrounding this religion. This has been a great resource for me to help share the Word of Truth to the world. May you be blessed in the ways that God has established for you in this ministry.
God bless this man. It was an uncomfortable conversation but he handled it like a humble, respectful man. May the Lord have mercy to set him free from the deception and the Holy Spirit open his eyes to see the real and true Jesus, the only begotten son of God 🙏🏼
Joel, will you make this a series? I know the time it must have taken to create this video and we all appreciate you for this. Not everyone will be as open to hearing from you as Greg, but "Test of a Prophet: The Bible vs Charles Taze Russell or The Bible vs Muhammad" would be very helpful.
🌱😀🌱 Iron sharpens Iron Hidden Message in the Torah /Tanak / Bible Believe as a child Hidden within within the genealogy first Sons from Adam. Genesis 5 : 3-32 NAMES ---- Name MEANINGS Adam - Man Seth - Appointed Enos - Mortal Cainan - Sarrow Mahalaleel - Blessed GOD Jared - Shall come Down Enoch - Teaching Methuselah -His Death shall Bring Lamech -To Make /Low Mighity Noah -Rest / Favor / Fulfilled Name Meanings written in a Sentence 😳 Man appointed mortal Sarrow Blessed GOD shall come down teaching His death shall bring to make low/MIGHTY , rest favor FULFILLED My Interpretation: Jesus given a task to preform from this earth feeling of deep distress BLESSED GOD shall come down as Jesus teaching Jew as a Rabbi His death shall bring SALVATION to make low to hang on a tree becomes MIGHTY rest/ favor/ FULFILLED HIS Purpose 🤔 Keep this in mind 🤔all 10 generations timeline took place up to chapter 5 of Genesis ,Hidden Message telling Jesus COMING 😲 Approximately 4 thousand years later be fore it HAPPENED only God Ten Trillion people could not gotten together and had have written 1 fact and placed it in a book Foretelling of there coming Christ 4K years before it Happened The Truth will set you Free Who is He ? Jesus or is he God Jesus said if you have seen me you have seen the FATHER Choose you this day whom you SERVE 🤔✝️😇😇 Jesus Loves You Believe ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST You are BORN AGAIN Enter in through the narrow Door , Jesus is The Way Share Share Share A spark can start a fire Tell many
Yes please ... the prophetess Ellen white of the Seventh-Day Adventists... and isn't there a prophet one for the Jehovah's Witnesses too?? All these religions were formed around the same time and all claimed to have prophets and were the truth...
This is such a powerful and beautifully executed documentary and interview. Thank you for showing the simple truth of the bible. You show a lot of grace and love in your conversations. I grew up LDS but had been living as an agnostic for 10 years. Last year I started reading the NIV bible. I am grateful that God found me and I was able to see the truth and simplicity of his word. It all comes back to Jesus. God bless you!
