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Testing Microsoft Surface with Snapdragon X Elite vs old Macbook Pro M1 Pro 

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@Automation-Avenue
@Automation-Avenue Месяц назад
== TIMESTAMPS == 0:00 Microsoft Surface with Snapdragon X Elite test 0:48 Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite vs Apple M1 Pro 2:25 Geekbench 6 3:44 Blender 5:28 Cinebench 2024 6:43 Atto Disk Benchmark 7:32 Battery test Please note - all tests were run in default 'recommended' Windows mode, rather than 'best performance' mode - as this is default setting and most people will use it daily like that. Enabling 'best performance' will result in slightly better results, but also will decrease time it lasts while on battery. Hope that makes sense. These are full specs for of laptop: Microsoft Surface Laptop model 2037 SKU ZHH-00029 Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite 12 core CPU X1E80100 Qualcomm Adreno GPU 15 inch Pixel Sense touch screen display 16GB LDDDR5 RAM 512 Gen 4 SSD drive ( removable ) Windows 11 for ARM Please let me know if you have any questions. Marek
@hahahahahahahaha6682
@hahahahahahahaha6682 3 месяца назад
many of the youtubers are getting 2900 single core and 15000 on the multicore on performance mode. I don't know why your unit is showing such a huge discrepancy
@Automation-Avenue
@Automation-Avenue 3 месяца назад
thats because I run it in 'recommended' mode, but -on the other hand - I guess thats what most people will run it in . Will test in power mode as well - thanks for your comment!
@JJ-cq6hu
@JJ-cq6hu 3 месяца назад
My guy is assuming that windows users don’t know the power settings. Not cool.
@samlawrence4670
@samlawrence4670 3 месяца назад
@@JJ-cq6huno he’s assuming that most people will run it in recommended mode because that’s what people do, accept the recommendation.
@JJ-cq6hu
@JJ-cq6hu 3 месяца назад
@@samlawrence4670 I said not cool because of the way the reviewer makes it the responsibility of the viewer to figure out that they are using recommended mode. When reviewing a device, a reviewer is required to provide metrics that also showcase the device at its peak.
@MrSamPhoenix
@MrSamPhoenix 3 месяца назад
@@JJ-cq6huyeah, but running it in “power-mode” will drain battery faster while giving you more performance. It’s why the mode isn’t standard.
@246rs246
@246rs246 3 месяца назад
I would like to see a full RU-vid test from 100 to 0% in 4K video on full screen to see exactly how many hours it will last
@Automation-Avenue
@Automation-Avenue 3 месяца назад
Great idea ! Might test it shortly :)
@Automation-Avenue
@Automation-Avenue 3 месяца назад
This is the test you requested mate :) (first test in that video): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XikgYEO1goU.html
@ginojap
@ginojap 3 месяца назад
But I suppose the battery on your old Mac is not in perfect conditions, so I would’t say that Microsoft lasted longer.
@Automation-Avenue
@Automation-Avenue 2 месяца назад
Hi! Yes, the battery life on my mac is shown as 93% after those 2-ish years, so it was slightly deteriorated. Thank you for your comment! Marek
@sukmanandasena
@sukmanandasena 3 месяца назад
What is the battery health percentage of the M1 Pro after more than 2 years of use for this test?
@neodidi
@neodidi 3 месяца назад
The battery life result was very impressive.. For GPU performance.. I am sure there will be patches to make it better and maybe by gen 2, it should be nailed. But so far... Great performance in my opinion considering you compared this to the M1 Pro..
@brunotremblay5650
@brunotremblay5650 3 месяца назад
Love seeing new channel! Great work, love your presentation and how you cut together the cinebench results. The battery on the Mac has had a bit of degradation that could explain the 5% difference, maybe? Thanks for sharing.
@Automation-Avenue
@Automation-Avenue 3 месяца назад
Yes indeed, this laptop is 2.5 years old so I am happy anyways that it still can keep up with the newest machines :) Thank you for your comment ! Marek
@BrockGunterSmith
@BrockGunterSmith 3 месяца назад
Very good set of tests! Very well balanced and realistic.
@Automation-Avenue
@Automation-Avenue 3 месяца назад
Thank you very much!
@mullergyula4174
@mullergyula4174 3 месяца назад
As far as I can recall Blender has been optimized for the M1 Macs to use the GPU.
@goobfilmcast4239
@goobfilmcast4239 3 месяца назад
Wow ...the Windows Laptop world has ALMOST caught up to Apple Silicon M1 !!!
@comrade_rahul_1
@comrade_rahul_1 3 месяца назад
Running on High Performance to know the capability is fine. But comparing that to a MacBook is wrong I guess. You won't get the same battery life there.
@Automation-Avenue
@Automation-Avenue 3 месяца назад
that run was actually in 'recommended' mode, so should be well balanced regarding power efficiency. Thanks for your comment!
@AllTimeTech12
@AllTimeTech12 3 месяца назад
Are you excited for linux support?
@gaiustacitus4242
@gaiustacitus4242 3 месяца назад
Linux will run on these new Snapdragon based laptops, but why? You can already run Linux on a Mac and get good battery life and good performance.
@NeWinThowai-oi3uv
@NeWinThowai-oi3uv 3 месяца назад
The only test that I'm not seeing is running DaVinci Resolve. Everyone is doing the same thing. Running benchmarks and battery life. Running DaVinci would actually tell me with big files that it's something to consider.
@Automation-Avenue
@Automation-Avenue 3 месяца назад
There are tests in Davinci, in this video guy says currently it does not support GPU: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xvhredzomLY.htmlsi=3ufm5tfv0kfULaLt
@neodidi
@neodidi 3 месяца назад
Great video.. Loved it.. For blender, did you use blender for arm?
@nick0_
@nick0_ 3 месяца назад
Internal gpu still falls behind, if they improve that it would be the perfect laptop
@atlasv2562
@atlasv2562 3 месяца назад
Hi how did you manage to install an app on it ? I tried to insall chrome - impossible..
@S1eepers
@S1eepers 2 месяца назад
Blender doesnt support the gpu in the snapdragon chip. It renders with the cpu...
@seanvideoediting
@seanvideoediting 3 месяца назад
This is exactly the comparison I was looking for! Can you please test Davinci Resolve performance? (exporting, magic mask, effects, etc.) Deciding if I should switch to Macbooks or Snapdragon elite Thank you!
@Automation-Avenue
@Automation-Avenue 3 месяца назад
Sure will try, there are some tests in DaVinci already- here the guy says it does not support GPU: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xvhredzomLY.htmlsi=3ufm5tfv0kfULaLt
@Lurch-Bot
@Lurch-Bot 3 месяца назад
Been thinking about getting an M1 Pro Mac Mini to run Linux and use as a DAW and for video editing. Don't really need it in laptop form.
@JJ-cq6hu
@JJ-cq6hu 3 месяца назад
Asahi Linux doesn’t work well even now tho. And if you don’t need it to have battery power, x86 is still the way to go for performance.
@saeedb3r
@saeedb3r 3 месяца назад
all youtube testing these laptop for benchmark and gaming!!! I wonder there is not single person out there to test this laptop for what intend to be and it's productivity. I like what you did at the last and test the battery life. please test it for photo or video editing and coding and the performance for those task and how long battery last for those task
@JJ-cq6hu
@JJ-cq6hu 3 месяца назад
Exactly test MacBooks for gaming….😂😂😂😂 Then compare it to these laptops.
@vartannazarian3451
@vartannazarian3451 3 месяца назад
You need arm version 😀, update Windows and power option in performance mode
@Automation-Avenue
@Automation-Avenue 3 месяца назад
yes correct, I run it in 'recommended' mode, but -on the other hand - I guess thats what most people will run it in. Thanks for your comment!
@King-Julz
@King-Julz 3 месяца назад
​​​@@Automation-Avenue@vartannazarian3451 Incorrect here!!!! It's called "best performance" under power modes in the settings app. You DO NOT create a high performance mode in CMD. THIS IS LEGACY AND NOT OPTIMISED. Type battery, power and sleep in start menu, make sure you're in the settings app and then under power modes select best performance!!!!!
@Frank2tek
@Frank2tek 3 месяца назад
It looks like you are running the surface in a low power mode. Could you check it and maybe test with best performance power mode ? The X Elite cpu single score in high performance power mode should be around 2800/2900.....
@Automation-Avenue
@Automation-Avenue 3 месяца назад
Hi Yes, its running in default 'recommended' mode, all info is in video description. I didnt switch to 'best performance' as this is not mode most people will switch to, and time it will be able to work on battery will be reduced as well in that mode. Hope that makes sense. Thank you for your comment! Marek
@Frank2tek
@Frank2tek 3 месяца назад
@@Automation-Avenue Yes , it make sense but many professional users like software developers will use it on "best performance". Thank you for your reply ....
@AnisurRahman-yg3qv
@AnisurRahman-yg3qv 3 месяца назад
Which has better touchpad+ keyboard?
@Automation-Avenue
@Automation-Avenue 3 месяца назад
They are both very good TBH, I dont know if I have my favourite. The keyboards are really good on both, the trackpad on 16 inch macbook is much larger but the one in Microsoft Surface is large enough, cant say anything negative about it. The bottom right and left 'buttons' work different way though on Microsoft Surface - instead of physical button - they are haptic trackpads which means no mechanical button ( so when you switch the laptop off, you can't feel the 'click' ). But I like that, it works perfectly. They are defo much better than the one on my Asus Rog Strix Scar ;) Thank you for your comment ! Marek
@gaiustacitus4242
@gaiustacitus4242 3 месяца назад
The Adreno GPU makes Snapdragon based laptops only suitable for surfing the web, watching videos, running office productivity programs, and similar things where graphics capabilities aren't important.
@8Raf8
@8Raf8 3 месяца назад
Amazing review straight to the point! Thank you 🙏🏼
@Automation-Avenue
@Automation-Avenue 3 месяца назад
Thank you !
@League7
@League7 3 месяца назад
blender for arm is not there gpu is not utlisiled
@element9387
@element9387 3 месяца назад
Man I really wanted to believe Microsoft could pull it off… time for a Mac
@nicaciobenevides1145
@nicaciobenevides1145 3 месяца назад
This test is not fair and and doesn't reflect the truth. When you use applications that are optimized, the Surface is superior, as has been seen in several other tests on youtube. The same initial performance issue occurred with Apple utilizing Rosette in its transition to ARM chips. I watched videos on youtube where it rendered photos in Lightrrom and exported videos much faster than the M2. He's trying to give the impression that Apple is superior with an M1 chip, as it isn't.
@element9387
@element9387 3 месяца назад
@@nicaciobenevides1145 I’m particularly in the market for a laptop with M3 pro performance. Sure, there’s x86 equivalents out there but I was really banking on Qualcomm pulling this off!! I need the battery life. The surface is a super cool machine but it’s just not quite there yet. Maybe next year
@freddywayne
@freddywayne 3 месяца назад
I don't believe any of his tests results in these comparisons. 🤷🏾‍♂️
@markmoriarty7760
@markmoriarty7760 3 месяца назад
Except that the Macbook cost more than twice the price of the Surface!
@Automation-Avenue
@Automation-Avenue 3 месяца назад
Well... you cant buy new M1 mac any more, and officially refurbished directly from Apple is actually slightly cheaper than this Microsoft Surface, but then comparing new to refurbished is not fair again... I just wanted to show what we can expect, I get your point though ! Thank you for your comment! Marek
@EduardLevesque
@EduardLevesque 3 месяца назад
i get 2800 single and 14000 multi on my surface laptop 7
@Automation-Avenue
@Automation-Avenue 3 месяца назад
Thats probably because I run it in default 'recommended' mode, but -on the other hand - I guess thats what most people will run it in . Will test in power mode as well - thanks for your comment!
@obadakamal6470
@obadakamal6470 3 месяца назад
messed up tests no power plan config no cpu variant...
@Automation-Avenue
@Automation-Avenue 3 месяца назад
Forgot to mention in video but you can find that info in video description, 80100 processor and 'recommended' power plan
@FluufyPvPTM
@FluufyPvPTM 3 месяца назад
I’m looking for a good laptop for IT College but i also want to game on it, would this be good for doing both?
@eds464
@eds464 3 месяца назад
hard no. The gpu is too weak and some games might not run. There is a list of games that can run.
@Automation-Avenue
@Automation-Avenue 3 месяца назад
I've been playing some ligtht games like Counter Strike Source, Street Fighter 4 etc and they work perfectly. However when I tried Cyberpunk 2077 - well... it works ( was quite surprised by that ) but I wouldnt say its playable as I got between 15 and 20 frames. Probably will make a video about gaming shortly so stay tuned ! Cheers Marek
@angelv1393
@angelv1393 3 месяца назад
if M1 is faster than X Elite so X Elite is an old tech already
@itsmilan4069
@itsmilan4069 3 месяца назад
nah he didn't enable performance mode
@Automation-Avenue
@Automation-Avenue 3 месяца назад
yes correct, I run it in 'recommended' mode, but -on the other hand - I guess thats what most people will run it in . Thanks for your comment!
@shaikhhar6911
@shaikhhar6911 3 месяца назад
Followed footstep of apple but almost 4 years after their offering is vastly inferior to 4 year old apple product ? No wonder why Apple is the pinnacle of consumer tech product that everyone else follow and is compared against.
@danielpopa1362
@danielpopa1362 3 месяца назад
The Geekebench .. you have to run it in power mode performance ..as the laptop came set on balance .. as this is not yet optimized for ARM .. and the windows do not know yet how to boost automatically. Other than that .. X Elite is a great machine .. GOOD JOB !!
@Bizmops
@Bizmops 3 месяца назад
windows need the update asap
@Automation-Avenue
@Automation-Avenue 3 месяца назад
yes correct, I run it in 'recommended' mode, but -on the other hand - I guess thats what most people will run it in . Will test in power mode as well - thanks for your comment!
@obadakamal6470
@obadakamal6470 3 месяца назад
@Automation-Avenue no dude most people know the performance mode if they windows users
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 3 месяца назад
@@obadakamal6470 I asked friends and family about six months ago if they switched to performance mode when doing intensive stuff, and they still need to do it. They assumed that in 2024, the OS (like in Macs) would work something as simple as that!
@noinghenah2764
@noinghenah2764 3 месяца назад
@@obadakamal6470but how about the users of these “thin & light” laptops 😂
@nicaciobenevides1145
@nicaciobenevides1145 3 месяца назад
It's not fair. When you use applications that are optimized the Surface is superior, as has been seen in several other tests on youtube. The same initial performance issue occurred with Apple utilizing Rosette in its transition to ARM chips. I watched videos on youtube where it rendered photos in Lightrrom and exported videos much faster than the M2. Please don't try to give the impression that Apple is superior with an M1 chip, it isn't.
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 3 месяца назад
Many apps do not work or have to run through emulation. Only sponsored reviews will ignore the elephant in the room. Consumers need to know that despite the long wait, there are still many issues, and for all we know, this time next year it may still be the same. If you watch media and browse these are great, but for real work they are not recommended. For me, printers and scanners have no drivers and are unlikely to, VPNs do not work, Google Drive does not work even on emulation, and buyers beware. Worth waiting as Intel and AMD have groundbreaking devices arriving soon and they will not have these issues.
@TheObserver__
@TheObserver__ 3 месяца назад
Apple lies about battery percentage on ios and mac os as well. They show more capacity left but quickly start dropping at less percentages.
@andyH_England
@andyH_England 3 месяца назад
Not from my usage. It is the opposite; it hangs on well below 5%.
@kunalsheth8216
@kunalsheth8216 3 месяца назад
Hello, I would like to see on how does both laptops (surface laptop and macbook pro with M1 pro) perform in procyon office productivity and procyon AI tests. Thanks
@itsmilan4069
@itsmilan4069 3 месяца назад
hey what's the X elite varient in the surface is it 78100 or 80100 or 84100? cause all 3 have different performance output also did you put the surface on windows performance mode while running these tests?
@Automation-Avenue
@Automation-Avenue 3 месяца назад
Hi Its 80100 processor, and I run it in default 'recommended' mode ( so balanced between energy saving and high performance )
@MrSamPhoenix
@MrSamPhoenix 3 месяца назад
What was the battery health of the MacBook? And we wanted to see how the two lasted in the battery test.
@Automation-Avenue
@Automation-Avenue 3 месяца назад
The mac reports 93% battery life. I run different type of battery test in the 'gaming on microsoft surface' video that was also requested - please see that link: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XikgYEO1goU.html Hope that helps ! Marek
@JJ-cq6hu
@JJ-cq6hu 3 месяца назад
Blender is x86. The results are expected because it ran through the Prism emulation layer. Whereas there are apple silicon binaries for blender that are compiled to be native on ARM.
@doron3463
@doron3463 3 месяца назад
Thank you very much! That's a great video🎉
@Automation-Avenue
@Automation-Avenue 3 месяца назад
Glad you liked it!
@Kratos30000
@Kratos30000 3 месяца назад
Excellent, detailed review 👍
@Automation-Avenue
@Automation-Avenue 3 месяца назад
Glad you liked it :) Marek
@shubhamvyas9459
@shubhamvyas9459 3 месяца назад
Are you used blender arm version or blender x86?
@SuperMachead1
@SuperMachead1 3 месяца назад
I think at least so far…that the elite is bottlenecked by pci gen 4….so I doubt a faster drive will make any difference 😊
@Automation-Avenue
@Automation-Avenue 3 месяца назад
Gen 4 has max speed of close to 7000 MB/s , it would have to be Gen 3 to be bottlenecked by that. If I find time I might test it a little bit further. Thank you for your comment ! Marek
@SuperMachead1
@SuperMachead1 3 месяца назад
@@Automation-Avenue …you are correct….i should have researched that…however all the ssd tests I’ve seen so far are all in the 3000mbps area…
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