Testing the Canyon Ultimate and Aeroad, which one I liked the most? 

Mission accepted: Convert Federico to disc brakes 😛

No disc breakers for me. I'll stay with my 2016 Canyon 8.0 6.7kg rim breaks machine. Works like a treat, never missed a beat.

Thanks for the video! What a great event. You are lucky to touch these bikes in advance and even ride on them, checking the correct size. I was comparing exactly these 2 bikes in these nice colors ❤ decided to order the aeroad

Great stuff! Thanks.

I have that bike and just came home from 1 week Gran Canaria climbing and descends but now here in Denmark it would be nice with the aerobike as a second bike. But the Aero with the light Zipp 454 only 1400gr. for a set of wheels could do the mountains well. But this trip I really enjoyed the discbrakes on the descends feeling very secure and the bike did no vibrations just quiet and stabil comparing to my old Cannondale Evo 2014. I have been 2 weeks in Gran Canaria with Ultimate slx9 tubeless setup and no punctures on the 28s. When its time for new tires I will go 30mm. for the gran canaria roads.

The best of two worlds. Lightweight rim brake aero 😎

There's something about a white Aeroad. Looks so good. Think it's the link to MvdP. You'll go faster for sure!

I think you were made to be on the Aeroad , you have the muscles & power to give the aero bike a proper workout. I’m not to particularly bothered about weight I think All my bikes must be 8 kilos plus , I just have to work a bit harder. Having said that you do ride with the fast bunch so I fully appreciate that lightweight is everything to you. Keep up the good work and have an excellent time when you head out to Mallorca 💪🏾

As you said, the feel is maybe the most important thing if you aren't racing, which I'm not. Unrepentant rim brake TCR owner here - light, responsive, with killer acceleration up short climbs and in stop-start city riding. Makes you feel like a young god (again).

Saw you there yesterday. Was going to say hello but the Aeroad was calling. Think i prefer it to the ultimate.

Try the Ultimate slx 9 with lighter wheels and group. Fantastic climber and very quiet on descends with the xtrbrakes

Keep the rim brake Fredrico your not convinced by disc im still riding my Look 765 rs rim brake its perfect.

Ah Fede another great vid , sorry to say the best bike in that video was max bianchi at the end , let’s have a vid on that 🎉!

Been riding a rim brake ultimate for 5 years, thank you for your video, I had been watching and reading other reviews of the newer Ultimate saying oh its stiffer and better, wondering if I'd like an upgrade to one or maybe an aeroad. Actually had disks on my first bike which I didn't enjoy. Wonder how the newer one feels if its the same weight as the one you have.

I had a canyon ultimatate 7.0 with rim brakes sold it last year, and do miss it sometimes. I got a giant tcr with electronic gears and disc brakes instead. Gotta say it may be more heavy, but the modulation and breaking power just makes it more safe to ride especially in the rain. I still think giant sells some tcr's with rim brakes and an aero optimized frame, if you want the best of both worlds.

Enjoyed the review. I've had an Aeroad for about 15 months and love it on the flat. I rarely take it up big climbs as it's a hard slog up the hill, then my 62mm front wheel gets blown around in the wind on the way back down. Could change the cassette and front wheel I suppose, or just buy the Ultimate and have the best of both worlds! Also, good to see a set of Hypers. I have a pair on a flat bar road bike. They look and sound amazing, and Winspace are always good to deal with.

Ive said it before and ill say it again its only a matter of time Fed for disc, I myself will be making the transition this week after 3 years on rim brake, I can only assume it will feel strange at first but i guess with anything once you become accustomed to it you forget about those doubts 👌🏽

Hi federico as a rim brake Ultimate guy myself I thought I had better follow your lead and just signed up for the next Moloko day in June 😅

Interesting Federico, I would take my lighter rim brake bike on holiday if I was climbing, but on local roads I’ve recently done a back to back test and the modern disc bike with wider tyres was not only comfier but faster too, that is despite the rim brake bike “feeling “ quicker. I think the lack of responsiveness and slightly more planted feel of a modern bike belies its ultimate superiority in a lot of situations.

I also tried some disc brake road and gravel bike recently, a canyon ultimate and a ritchey outback have to say im liking the ritchey more. But still its not as responsive as my rim brake road bike... i agree with you, there is something about disc brake that makes it feel less responsive than rim brake...

I took delivery of an Ultimate Cf8 SL Movistar last week. Beautiful ride.

Federico. What does your gut say? Go with the one that will keep you smiling longer while riding (and the type of riding you want to do). Salute.

Question is, do you need a modern bike? Nice video Amici!!!! 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

Have the exact same bike as yours, last from Canyon in 2022. I was thinking about selling it but I am too afraid ahah. Probably put a Di2 12s instead of changing bike

perfect timing Federico! I just searched for Ultimate CF SLX 8 Di2 and your latest video appeared! Is the gearing compact (50/34 on the front) on the Ultimate SLX 8 Di2? Canyon doesn't say on the web page, as far as I can see anyway. Would have been interesting - to me at least - if you could have tried the Ultimate CFR. Does the 6.3Kg weight compare well with your rim brake version? I've been kicking myself since I lost the opportunity to get an SLX 9 - Canyon is no longer offering it. So are you going to get one? The Aeroad is better for flat routes of course, and the Ultimate for hills. Like me, you need both 😉

was looking at the Giant TCR Advanced instead, 2022 model is on sale for ok price, looks like better deal even though it's still a lot of money for a bike

We were quite warm with that kit to be fair. But the question is: better too hot or too cold on the ride? 😂

Due to a crash I’ve built a second hand Sl7 disc (7.0kg deep wheels), it’s 150 grams havier than my sl6 rim brake (same configuration ). I have to admit the sl7 rides like a dream but has less ‘soul’ than the sl6 and it’s a lot more hassle to build and maintain. If I want to get it at 6.85 (sl6) I probably have to sell the house.

Maybe an Aethos could fit the profile you’re looking for more than even the Aeroad Fede?

Everyone goes on about aero bikes but most "normal" cyclists tend to forget it's the big lump of flesh on top of a bike that makes the bigest difference. Unless you have the physique of a serious cyclist/pro and are prepared and able to maintain an aero position on the bike then having best bike in world won't make a big difference. OK you might be slightly faster on a ride but is it worth it? Get balance right of a bike you like, that is comfortable to ride and you are happy with.

Is the new bike really slower or just more stable, just wondering ? The feel of a bike can be very deceptive

Unless you’re racing I’d be taking the ultimate. The differences in aero gains under pro speeds are minor.

For those eye watering prices, maybe its time to swing for some italian steel🤟

It seems you are really happy with your current bike. So, why spend another 5k for an Aeroad other than it is cool and will make you faster :) :) :) ? I am planning to get an Aeroad in couple of years when I become stronger and more competitive but my other bike is Canyon Grail, so I need a fast road bike anyway. But if you have a light weight and fast road bike, perhaps it is better to invest to a different bike that does things your road bike can not? e.g. gravel/MTB... All that said disc break provides lots of safety improvements over rim breaks in british winter, especially if you are going downhill on a slippery/muddy/dirty roads daily as I do. I crashed this winter using a rim break bike where I might have avoided it with a disc break bike. Admittedly there were other factors resulting with the crash but the break type was a big part of the issue. But another essential requirement for british winter is mud guards and none of those race bikes can take decent (i.e. non clip on) mud guards. So you can get a Canyon Grail with mudguards and use it as all road/winter bike and your Ultimate is summer bike. How that sounds if you desperately crave a new bike?

Be dopo bubbiare 10.000 anni fra la ultimate e la aeroad mi sono preso la aeroad. Pesa in pochino di piu ma guarda Che va forte fess!

se non ricordo male la tua rim brake sta sui 7kg, non mi sembra eccessivamente pesante le canyon che hai provato sui 7,5kg.

Did you tell the boss you were testing bikes or did you tell her you going to help out at the local church jumble sale!!

Much prefer rim brakes to be honest

I wonder if the Aeroad being the best seller has anything to do with Mvdp 🤔 There is one winner thought if you do not buy one, your bank balance, and proberbly your marriage 😂

'Upgrading' for disc breaks and heavier weight is nonsensical

Rim brakes are terrible with carbon wheels. I live in southern Spain and do long descents. Discs work better. If you live in a less hilly area then it’s not so important

So called aero for normal road riding is a useless concept, especially when you ride with anti-aero helmet, unshaved beard, and being big broad shouldered man. And believe me, shaving your crotch and legs isn’t going to make a difference. You need just a normal road bike with disc brakes and good racing tires. So technically at this moment you don’t even have the most optimal bike for your riding circumstances. Desperately chasing weight is as useless idea as chasing “aero”.

Aero 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Aeroad 😂 Mine is arriving tomorrow 🎉

Personally I love the ultimate.

Mum I made it 🚀 💨

Stick with what you know and love... these bike companies are running out of ideas, and just tyring to reinvent the wheel, when it doesn't need reinventing... and then charging ridiculous money for it 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️