[TF2] Bad Weapon Academy: Enforcer 

I once went on a server and there was one man there named “ mr enforcer” where he would only go spy and use the his strange enforcer, and was asking people to trade with him for more enforcers

"Why not just use the Ambassador?" Ho ho! So you're assuming I can aim instead of just blindly firing in a panic?

The funniest thing is that they added a resistance pierce to this weapon. Y’know, on Spy. The class with an instakill that pierces all resistance.

7:45 We may not be getting the full story, but I absolutely LOVE how it looks like the entire enemy team just backpedals from a single Fists of Steel Heavy, lmfao

Wow, an episode of this series where the "bad weapon" is actually... bad. I legitimately forget this gun exists when choosing a Spy primary. Allowing it to bypass sapper armor would actually benefit Spies who run to spawn and go for the teleporter entrance, since it's common for Spies to shoot the entrance after sapping before the Engie at the exit can get them in a nearly-infinite loop of destroying the sapper that the Spy keeps spamming. Other than that, it definitely feels like the concept itself is just not working. I'd welcome a complete redesign tbh. For a future episode of this series, if you felt like torturing yourself, I'd like to hear what you think about the Pomson 6000.

It’s basically just a nice sfm model for animations

give the enforcer +20% faster disguise speed

At first I was like, "Wait this weapon is bad?" then I remembered the last time I played it still had the 20% damage boost on every shot. Honestly if they wanted to keep it as a spy ambushing thing just make it give you a damage bonus for a few seconds after your disguise drops or something instead of just the first shot.

"Wanna hear a joke, Murray?" ~Enforcer crit~

Big brain strat for the enforcer: Disguise as your own team. It's much faster than disguising as an enemy and you can just spam b during a gunfight to get your damage buff. (edit) ok apparently this doesn't actually work. :(((

The only reason I use the Enforcer is, Because I love how comically smol it is

7:55 this is probably the only moment in tf2 history where the stock shovel was actually useful

You can tell he never sees backup soldiers since hes playing the same clip like 5 times

When you say 'It fits in with the Spy's theme of circumventing defences', that gives me the idea of doubling damage vulnerabilities. So if you shoot a Bushwacka sniper, it deals 40% more damage rather than 20%.

0:41 That moment when you kill "Right behind you" from behind.

"bad weapon academy: enforcer" *proceeds to get a 13 kill streak with the enforcer*

"Or use the diamondback if you hate other people having fun. You're playing spy of course you do" as a diamondback spy main this sentence is hurtfully accurate

The added touch of Mista’s theme for the intro

You forgot one thing about the gun piercing damage resistances. It also ignores damage vulnerabilities as well.

I like the enforcer cause it looks cool and for some reason back when I played mine would do more consistent damage than stock.

That poor backup soldier, his back must really be hurting.

Yea, those "Just destroy your building" comments in the last vid were killing me.

Naming an Enforcer "Spaghetti" is one of the most hilariously esoteric jokes I've ever seen and I love it.

I just like how unique this gun looks in comparison to his other guns; it just looks so stubby, bright and cute. It's pretty funny to me how different in style it is when compared to the rest of his tools.

I always read the first up side of the enforcer as "increased damage while cloaked" and I was confused why anyone would want to use this when its first up side was something you couldn't do

Remember when the enforcer was added and was immediately banned in comp play for being too good? Those were the days.

I like how the beginning killstreak only one kill actually used it’s damage bonus.

4:38 i still can't get over how amazingly smooth that transition was

Ambassador has one giant flaw, it requires decent aim...

Pre-nerf, it was my favorite spy revolver by a decent margin. It was the first strange I ever traded for. After gun mettle gutted it however, it's been collecting dust ever since.

The joke at 1:20-1:25 is one of my favorites I've seen from you, especially since I know the source. Bonus points for actually carrying over the joke in TF2 with the name change.

So you know how Spy's revolvers have a accurate shot cooldown that lasts over a second before firing another accurate shot? Well the Enforcers cooldown is lower than a second. Enforcer secretly good.

maybe give it big knockback like the force-a-nature while disguised. Could make for some silly strats like knocking an engie away from his nest or environmental kills on tunnel vision snipers or whatever.

"Vac medics are very uncommon." Oh you sweet sweet fool, we all went to community servers cause of the bots and the fact that almost nobody in casual is worth pocketing.

The machina pierce is actually a good idea if you want it to be a building buster - you can shoot an engineer and the building he’s hiding behind on the same shot.

6:33 hey would you look at that, he survived with single digit health just like he said..

What if the 20% extra damage while disguised lasted for a while after the first shot, like "+20% damage while disguised, +20% damage for 5 seconds if you lose your disguise by shooting your revolver"

"The Enforcer enforces jack diddly shit, and the Red Tape Recorder doesn't get me making some noise..." - Fawful's Minion, Top 9 Worst TF2 Weapons. Glad you did both of these, Fish! ^w^

On hit: spy does not lose disguise 20% damage bonus when disguised 30% longer cloak charge time -50% ammo in chamber It would encourage a more aggressive spy playstyle, while still being risk vs reward. It would make YER better too, and would pair well with the cloak and dagger(since you can stand still so you dont have to worry about charge time) :)

"If you shoot someone while disguised, gain a X% damage buff for Y seconds." There. It's still super situational and basically useless, but now the fire-rate debuff is partially negated in that one specific situation and it's only MOSTLY worse than stock.

This is Mista's theme. The gun that Mista uses look like the enforcer. Holy shit.

So, I have nearly 770 hours on spy. I play him in etf2l competitive highlander, and use the enforcer quite commonly. I just want to give my opinion on the enforcer, what it's best used for and why. First, I think it's worth looking at the other guns and what they're used for: Revolver - Overall damage. When you wanna just gun around, or have a backup tool for self-defense (Like you also mentioned). Probably my favourite and by far most used revolver, in pubs and comp. Obviously just really good, not much else to say other than use this when you don't have anything to fill the slot and want reliable overall damage output. L'Etranger - Being passive and knifing. I personally do not like this gun, due to my aggressive playstyle (and cause, since I'm an EU spy I like gunning lel), but it is for generally planning strikes with your knife more and having more mobility on bigger maps with not many ammo packs. Spy mobility is all about how far you can get while cloaked, therefore this gun just helps with that immensly. But obviously you trade in the ability to gun for knifing, which I personally am not a fan of. Ambassodor - This thing used to be better than the revolver cause you could just snipe from any range and pick off players easily (Espacially since spies can appear from nearly anywhere with their cloak, meaning that unlike when you're dealing with a sniper, you cannot really just hold a certain position where the spy cannot reach you). However, nowadays that attribute is gone and it's a close range gun relying on headshots for what's essentially 2 revolver shots, with less spread. However, it still 2 shots engis and sniper if you hit your shots right. It only isn't MUCH better than the revolver, but still easily usable. I use the amby for picking players more than anything though. Now, the enforcer - The enforcer is similiar, but like you said, it's not as good for picking players as the amby. It's still almost as good, but the revolver is probably better at overall damage due to it firing faster. But here comes the thing this gun excells at: It has no long range damage falloff with buildings + it goes through the wrangler shield. This is the main meat of this gun and when I use this instead of the revolver; You can snipe lvl 3 buildings from anywhere where you can see them. This is what nowadays, spies in comp mainly do on pl maps for example. Ever noticed how annoying it is to try getting up the the lvl 3 on the balcony on upward last (With the dispenser blocking you)? You can snipe the lvl 3 from under, even through the wooden cracks. And if you coordinate with your combo or solly, you can usually even guarantee that it goes down. And in pubs too, and since you still deal a big bit of damage, you can go on massive tears with this thing while being able to deal with engis easily. But like the amby, the effect this has on players is usually slightly outclasses by the revolver, and for picking players the amby is better cause the critical damage is more effective. tl;dr, amby is good for picking players, revolver is good in general and enforcer is good at picking buildings. Hope this gets you a better idea on what spy's revolvers are good for, and what the enforcer is viable for.

Since the Enforcer is slightly slower than usual, I think removing the damage spread so you can be 100% accurate with every single shot would benefit it greatly.

The fact that you put Mista's theme "proiettile" in the background made the beginning awesome

I loved hearing the Sly OST in the background, a nice wave of nostalgia washed over me once I recognized it : )

"Ambassador this, ambassador that", what about the superior ambassador, the Diamondback? Free crits just for playing spy.

I wouldn't mind a spy revolver that specialized in sentry/building busting, like being able to outright destroy sentries without having to outright kill the engi.

2:44 i love how you shot the solider's arm and it was count as a headshot

I had an engie friend in Highlander who actually got countered because their wrangled sentry kept getting shot down by an enforcer, essentially freeing up the enemy soldier to do whatever because the spy didn't need the extra firepower. He could either let it die, which solves that problem, or tank it, which is downtime for the sentry. It was really useful in that specific situation, too bad l'tranger is so useful it basically is a no brainer even in that situation tbh. For buffs, I think it could pierce sentry armor, or it could temporarily nullify resistance for teammates, maybe a half a second window.

It's still kind of funny when the previous stat was 20% damage outside of disguises, and it was stupid yet fun to 1-shot kill the light classes

I miss when this thing was just a slower stock revolver with big damage. I even got used to the weird spread of it.

The slower firing speed of the enforcer makes the bullet spread of the revolvers almost nullified

Change '+20% damage bonus while disguised' to 'Mini-crit damage while disguised'. And let it deal full damage to sapped sentries.

Perhaps revert it to its original form: +20% damage when undisguised, but with a 20% slower firing speed, and then make it have no random crits. The real balancer would be a 33% slower time to cloak. Maybe even 50. That way it would encourage the idea of defending yourself rather than slipping away, and you'd have to think about engagements before just blindly rushing in knowing that you can cloak at any time.

one thing i was surprised didn't get mentioned despite the other things being mentioned was; backline spy. like you said, spy sees enemy health, deals more damage with the enforcer while disguised, and ignores resistances. with that, combined with spy's role, i think this gun has an alright niche; killing enemies retreating to dispensers without calling the attention of everyone on the enemy team by stabbing and sapping. rather than attempting a suicide rush, you can more reliably kill people running away without dying yourself. to buff this specific playstyle more, i'd lower the damage falloff a little and/or give a boost to cloak a second or two after killing someone with the gun, giving them a quieter and faster cloak activation. lets you become a very dangerous thorn in the enemy's side, especially if you can manage and move around with cloak well.

using Mista's theme in the intro is a god tier move

Maybe, if they really wanted to lean on the “armor piercing” angle for the Enforcer, they could change it so that each shot applies stacking damage vulnerability (with a cap somewhere) and have the first shot out of disguise negate all resistances on the target for a time too?

Enforcer wepun best wepun what are you talking about

I love the Dimond back it’s my favorite gun, gives you extra damage for just doing stuff you should be doing anyway

i believe the piercing resistances is a lot more powerful that people give it credit for, in times where you can't get behind someone's back because they have their entire team around them, you can just whip out your revolver and gun them down in a teammfight, bypassing their resistances and helping your team picking that target, ie: the battalions backup soldier of vac medic.

I find myself rewatching Bad Weapon Academy as much as Lazy Purple's "How it feels to play" series these are gooooooood shit, dude

The Sly Cooper background music was a nostalgia trip, thanks for that.

I like how he used a LazyPurple “How it Feels to Play Spy” clip when he was explaining about his back to the wall.

damn, i never was aware that vaccinator medics were so rare, and im a vaccinator medic main.

"Hand Banana, I'd like you to meet, *The Enforcer* ."

When the Enforcer first came out, it was my favorite gun. It was good for spies that weren't great at being super sneaky.

11:52 The elusive engineer gaming

Fun fact: This weapon pierces the Dead Ringer's damage resistance when feigned! And it can pierce the fricking Vac's charge!

Old stat felt like a real gun, got lots of kills from it

FSoaS: "I seriously did not see a single vaccinator Medic in the 9 hours of footage I recorded" Me, a vaccinator medic: *insert monkey puppet meme*

Meta moment; my friend told me that she can see her teammate’s HP by changing something in advanced setting…unless you meant to see your ENEMY’S HP…meaning that you can pick up the weaklings….

I would add 600 percent knockback while disguised to send the enemy flying so you can escape. I would want it to be like an emergency air blast.

What if each Enforcer shot did increasingly more damage? Because, you know, the theme of the gun is striking hard? I don't know. I didn't even know Spies could see enemy health before watching this vid, and I've been playing TF2 for years.

stats: 20% less damage against players 20% more damage against buildings (+ no sapper armor) would make it good to equip if your only purpose is destroying sentries and be balanced since its weak at fighting people.

The first shot of every Revolver is 100% accurate then every other shot has that random spread, but if you shoot every 1.25s intervel that random spread does not exist

Glad to hear Sly Cooper music! Fits pretty well with TF2, interestingly enough. Nice choice.

Mista’s theme:*bumps in* Me: YES

Personally, I’d replace “+20% damage when disguised” with “deals 20% damage when disguised” followed by “Firing this weapon doesn’t break disguise” That way it won’t overlap with the ambassador or Diamondback and instead be a versatile nuisance that allows you to finish off low hp targets without breaking disguise.

only 90’s kids remember when this channel’s name was FsoaS

"The enforcer is broken because I love pulling off trick shots with the ambassador." Can you imagine?

When ya gonna start Good Weapon Academy? Where you look at good items and explain how they could use a few helpful changes to become awful and unusable

“Why not just use the ambassador?” Two reasons: 1. I suck at aiming 2. The enforcer is a jojo reference

Well, the way I see it the "goal" of this weapon is to keep enemies in check (it is called the "enforcer" after all) so any ability it could have could be about that. We already sort of see it with the damage pierce, so maybe extending that further and dealing more damage on enemies with resistance could be useful. Hm... what else could spy enforce?

Reduce firing speed slightly more to -30%, give it a 10% damage bonus, and instead of dealing 20% more damage when attacking from disguise, make it minicrit when attacking from disguise (has damage falloff). If you kill the enemy with this attack you rapidly re-disguise as a random person currently alive on the enemy team. If you dont kill them, or you miss, then disguise kit and invis watch are disabled for 4 seconds.

0:10 hey, that's me!

Backstab range for the enemy spy: C Backstab range when I play spy: -

Guido mista's theme at the beginning, nice touch

I have a fun rework for this gun: +10% damage for every teammate nearby (in about the same radius as soldiers banners) up to 200% damage with 10 teammates nearby. -20% slower firing speed -Weapon glows proportionally to how many teammates are nearby This would actually make spy a support class, helping your teammates capture, or defend the control point.

I'd prefer it just gies back to being an extra damage revolver. To compensate, what if it made all of your cloaking, sappers, footsteps, voluntary and involuntary voice lines, and shots louder? You'd be giving up subtlety and an enemy's lack of awareness for some good damage. Also, make it so damage falloff is a little more forgiving.

This was a really good episode, could you do the pomson 6000 next? I would suggest a Medic weapon but none of them are bad enough for an episode. Edit: Just because a weapon isn’t the meta doesn’t mean it’s bad.

Nice he went back and added the rebalance server to all his old bad weapon Academy videos good job

its kinda poetic that the weapon that uses disguises is more powerful during Halloween

2:36 Every first revolver shot is always on the dot, after that successive shots become less accurate

My idea for an enforcer rework: +Pierce damage resistances +Ignore damage falloff -Ignore damage vulnerabilities -17% smaller clip size -No random crits The idea is that it's meant to be a perfectly consistent gun in all cases at a slight tradeoff to stock

Great choice of music with the Sly theme!

I think one of the best ways to buff this is adding an effect that "if last shot hit a target without damage resistance, weapon will fire faster by.." Maybe not +20%, because then it'd just be stock, but something small like that could help.

i dont know if im mentally damaged but i actually use the enforer at times

so you want us to use the Enforcer on Halloween like a week after the Halloween ended? :D

In case you're curious with what happened at the end of the video with the demoman stuck in the ceiling, when blue captures the 2nd point and gains their forward spawn, the door there isn't the rolling one you visibly see but actually an invisible block which moves up & down depending on if it's open or closed~ When someone on blue team opens the forward spawn door in the cave the block moves upwards, so far up however that it clips into that doorway above blue's spawn; causing people to get stuck or even die to the crush force~

1:35 I love how in a video where a person *wasn't* trying to showcase a weapon in the background, they would try do some funky stab, or back off with suppressive fire, but this was the legit best way to deal with that situation