@@sev1120 what if instead you could shoot the parachute itself and the more damage it takes the faster the soldier/demo falls, and after enough damage (say 200) the parachute gets completely torn and it stops protecting from fall damage
If you posted it and THEN made it unlisted, the post would have appeared in peoples feed, and if they didn't refresh it after you unlisted it, the 'link' to the video would still be there. So youtube would have not refreshed for some people, and the public link would still be chilling there.
huge respect for not click-baiting and over glorifying the shit out of the unusual unbox. I've unboxed 2 unusuals and people get super jealous when they figure that out, but i spent significantly more money on the unboxing than if i just bought the unusuals themselves. don't do crates kids.
Yea bc even if you DO unbox an unusual, there’s a high chance you get an ugly paint, a scarred paint, or a paint that doesn’t match the effect Zesty got a very very lucky pull
Zesty, do not forget that the Eyelander can still be equipped for Demoknight, and then equip a Grenade Launcher and Stickybomb Launcher at a resupply cabinet, and now you have 210 Health and Movement Speed that makes you faster then a Medic.
This is straight up broken in pubs. It's super frustrating to constantly be punished for having bad teammates because a demo keeps farming them for easy heads and then you have to deal with the sonic speed tank demo.
@@Spiffyo does that work? Get maximum amount og heads for the speed and health, and then resupoly to stock demo via cabinet and you still have the hp and speed boost?
Even though the scottish resistance isn't as good on offense it still has its uses as it can control the front line and prevent the defenders from pushing the attackers back.
eh, its only good against doorways, and since not having your main source of damage neuters your ability to fight, it even reduces your defensive abilities in environments where enemies are skilled enough where pipes become unreliable, and where you need to be able to defend yourself and others, as well as providing damage for your team against anyone who breaks past the front line. the reason the scottish resistance is so bad is because it buffs your traps, which, while are a big part of demo, arent the best compared to in combat use of stickies, while removing demos ability to do everything else. its a small upside for a massive massive downside
@@largin386 direct combat stickies are one of the strongest aspects of demoman in general. and are responsible for the majority of a good demo's damage source. stock can do traps too, but it can also do everything else. scotres can cover multiple doorways a bit better, but stock can actually do damage outside of doorways. theres a reason scotres is never used in the high levels. it just doesnt work against good players
I always thought that the Loch-n-Load was still a good weapon even after the nerfs, especially with them somewhat keeping the damage bonus by doing it deal more damage to buildings. Should really need to use it more.
Honestly I feel like people started calling it a crutch a lot more only after SoundSmith. The SoundSmith stans didn’t listen to the disclaimer in the beginning and took his word as gospel
@@MartinPurathur right, but after the nerf people stopped saying it was a crutch, at least in my experience. Then weapon stereotypes comes out and suddenly the community consensus was it was a crutch still since it helped you hit your shots a lot easier
Zesty, I am extremely disappointed that no one, not you or your chat, had noticed and taken advantage of the very obvious pun to be made; that you put the Tide Turner (the Pirate Wheel) in high C (High Sea) tier
You know, i never knew why the Skullcutter even has random crits enabled at all. All other sword-like items do not have random crits, yet even though this one does, it's not listed in the description. It feels to me like they forgot to add the “No random Crits” penalty and just left it like that forever instead of fixing it.
There was a VERY brief time when all swords had damage penalties, but had random crits as a trade off. It only lasted for a few hours, because the idea was fucking stupid and valve had a lot of shit thrown at them for it
@@dustin202 I'm just glad the localization files are up to date. Valve is serious about making sure that when the bots headshot us, it's all in the right language.
the problem with the caber was it's ability to 1-shot medics and clear points. Make it do 125, remove deploy and swing speed, and I think a cool change would be to make it so doing damage with the blown caber regens it. lowering the threshold to 3 shots against light classes when exploded is enough of a downside.
@@largin386 holy shit shut up with the "eew comp player" shit. You dont know how comp even works yet you make these assumptions as if comp players are anti fun. No comp player cared about nor wanted the claid nerfed. We basically forgot demoknight existed. No comp player cared about nor wanted the caber nerfed.
We could add a new stat to fix that that literally just says "-20% damage against medics". An obvious fix, and a bit unorthodox compared to usual tf2 stats, but why not?
Reminder: The scottish resistance need not to be used for multiple active traps at once. Pop some on the back, some on middle, and some on the front, and focus the only ones in front of your eyes. When you run back, the other traps become a safety net, kinda like a sentry backup plan.
I think Zesty is quickly turning into my favorite TF2 content maker. He plays the game with a casual mindset and is focused on just having fun, instead of being competitive and wanting everything to be as balanced as possible/competitively viable. He’s not afraid to speak his own mind and say things like it is. And he’s just all around entertaining to watch. So props to you Zesty, you’re helping me remember why I love this game so much, and why I have 3,000 hours in the game.
Fun fact about 5 heads + splendid screen , with every single head taken your shield bash damage encrease , so basically you doing a freaking 131 shield bash damage , you can one shot light classes with ease.
To make the caber even more of a gimmick, still one shot light classes, and a super funny weapon have it always kill the demo, besides uber of course, would create some silly moments. Would (hopefully) make people laugh seeing two people go boom at once, I mean most demos kill themselves after the big boom anyway.
I think Valve replaced the claidheamh mòr's max health penalty with damage vulnerability so that it only affects you while the weapon is active. Otherwise it's a constant effect as -15 hp. I agree that it's not intuitive anymore but it's a tough thing to balance
you are the best tf2 youtuber ever,please keep doing,what about a video of ideias for new weapons in tf2? like especific weapons that you think classes need,it would be really cool to see
"Ya'll remember the old sticky jumper where you just vomit out 6 sticky's and launch yourself at the enemy team at Mach 9?" Ah, yes. The Human Missile.
I wish Valve never reverted the sticky launcher nerf. It made complete sense: it made traps (the whole point of the weapon) more valuable as they are literally mines that stick. Instead, people accustomed to holding down the mouse and spamming whined real loud that now they had to get better with the primary that they never use
The nerf made him weaker against sentry nests and made him mince meat against scouts(more then he is already). The nerf did not change the tactic of getting in the demos face, instead it made the punishment for fighting a demo midrange less so(again ,scouts more then already). If you want to nerf the stickies like before, you have a range ramp up instead of a damage ramp up. A range ramp up(meaning how big the blast radius is) would allow demos to still be the meaty damage dealer while incentives aim rather then mindless spam. A damage ramp up would make stickies only good for block off paths or traps, and no the grenade launchers are discount rocket launchers just with slightly better falloff but with no splash(again, scouts). As for what is skill and mindless. which is better? trapping a doorway or corners that the enemy can't see around and waiting for them to willing or stupidly make the choice for you while you only have your pills to help, or make the fights yourself and lay down damage to kill or back off the enemy. To give a perspective. Using the scottish resistance to A) lay faster stickies at enemy sentry nests, B) create a minefield as the fight goes on, or C) destroy enemy stickies. All that rather then using them as traps shows it has more potential being an active weapon then a passive one. That says more then what people think the stickies should be.
My guy I really appreciate this, your buttery voice filling up 40 minutes like that is exactly what I need in my recommended. No pressure but if there’s 7 more of those coming, I’m hyped lol. (but you 're obliged to complain about the spinner being loud at the start of every video)
Caber is broken, sometimes it shows as blown up when ready and sometimes when you hit someone it doesn't explode at all while looking like its exploded
I think your critique of the Eyelander is unwarranted. In the context of your criticism you were referring to a full DemoKnight, which is a melee only class. It makes absolute sense for a full melee class to have high speed and health considering the range that they are playing at. Lowing the max speed with 4 heads to be lower than a scout makes scout a strong counter to DemoKnight. What tops this even more is that a DemoKnight is completely hard countered by a single pyro using airblast.
I wouldn't say it's unwarranted, but it's very biased towards low-to-mid skill levels (same as his tide turner points - trimping's skill ceiling is nuts). Aim and particularly awareness are demoknight's hardest counters imo. A good example are his points on heavy - eyelander/screen isn't broken against decent heavies, cause their knockback is so strong. It's like saying spy is broken against heavies; sure, backstabs are a one-shot but they're risky. Same goes for blast damage, soldiers (or rarely demos) who can juggle+airshot are almost as hard as pyros. I think the flaws in his critique are just a lack of experience against demoknights (and/or overexposure to pubstompers), but from this, his views probably align with a large part of the community.
@@hauntix I wouldn't joke hauntix, I still have photographic evidence of both you and your partner trying that "Oops, I accidentally Reported You" scam
the hitbox size isnt a big point in the grand scheme of things. the more consistent rollers and fuse time are just better for DM since the pipes dont fuck off into another dimension the second they hit the ground. stock rollers are significantly worse since if youre aiming near the enemy, they wont hit them. funny how you say the iron bomber is better only for spamming when thats the only situation stock can concievably outperform the stock
Indeed, I find that when people fight demos, they either strafe left to right (like other demos, soldiers, or snipers) or try to close the distance (like scouts, battle engies, pyros). It's rare that they retreat in a straight line away from you. That's why I find the iron bomber better, there's a much higher chance that the roller will hit a strafing enemy
Yup his argument is weird. He think it's more important to get damage from stock rollers instead of having an "extra help" to hit directs with the iron bombers bigger hitbox.
@@222MovieMan that isnt the main benefit though. stock rollers are worse than IB rollers because they by nature move away from whatever target youre trying to hit. you either hit directs or get roller damage, but in trying to do one you cannot do the other. for iron bomber, you can aim for directs and still get rollers if you miss when if you aim for directs with stock, the rollers just go into the distance. i just want IB hitbox fixed so badly because ive ranted about this literally over 20 times and im getting carpal tunnel
Half Zatoichi is basically around the middle of the demoman melee's when it comes to viability for both demoman, demoknight and hybridknight, a nice all rounder that works with so many sets, but can be outclassed by better options in certain situations, only really being the best at being tanky with the chargin' targe and boots, and even then thats debatable between the Eyelander with 4 heads
@@DoofXMachina I mean yeah to be fair there is no downside to using a dull demoknight loadout loadout on it, kinda like the persian persuader, but I just like health back on kill to be aggressive or not needing to rely to much on medic or health packs so my team can use them instead
Here's a point on the Iron Bomber that I don't hear talked about: mobility. The fact that you can shoot it at the ground and it won't roll away means you can use it to reliably grenade-jump, allowing you to use a shield without sacrificing all of your vertical mobility. It's surprisingly useful.
39:53 This weapon needs it's own video because I still don't understand why Zesty hates it, and I hope full video on it will explain it. Because, didn't Zesty complain about Base Jumper not being broken because it counters Explosive classes and Scouts and that comp players whine too much even tho Zesty now complains about full heads Eyelander countering explosive classes and scouts? He even suggested Heavy to counter Base jumper users, but isn't it literally also Demoknight counter??? Unless Demoknight has a lot of distance and Heavy is unrevved, he can NOT one shot Heavy because he will get melted by Heavy. Natasha is obvious counter, but so is literally every other minigun. Also the insane fire resistance doesn't even matter since Pyro can just airblast spam Demoknight. Or you don't even need to spam it, just use one airblast to stop charge, and then pepper Demo with shotgun while you occasionally airblast him to keep him away.
Thing is, heavy slows demoman down just by shooting him. And your wrong, demo can essentially one shot heavy. A four head splendid screen does 134-135 damage, and a crit melee does 195. So ye, easily moved 300. Plus, it's difficult to just airblast a demo and pepper him with shotgun shells since the shotgun does more up close. And finally, the reason hes ok with the base jumper is because you can dodge until the soldier or demo lands. With full heads, hes just permanently extremely resistant and such
@@DoofXMachina If you think it’s difficult to airblast a full melee class away from you and hit them with a shotgun, you shouldn’t be giving advice here.
@@lordlunchmoney never said it was difficult to hit him. I only said that since it doesnt do much damage unless your shoving it up their ass. Plus, you only have a certain amount if airblasts. Even less with such things as the back burner or even degreaser, if your low on ammo, or if your using the phlog. So no. I should be giving advice. And the fact you noticed a single thing I said and said "oh you cant say shit" because of it, your the fool here
@@DoofXMachina Dude, you're claiming that pyro isn't a hard enough counter to demoknight. That's so many levels of stupid, I fail to even begin to comprehend it.
@@lordlunchmoney I quite literally never said that. I just said it's difficult to pepper him with weak shotgun shells. Your the one being rude and miscontruding my argument
5:53 Swing speed penalty is pointless, I mean sure remove it, but it doesn't really affect Caber effectiveness either way. Either using it with sticky jumper or shield, you will only use it as a one off.
Nice I'm happy to see you do a tier list for demoman as he's one of my mains and probably favorite to play just because there's so much things you can do with him probably out of any class but when I see you upload man I just get happy you're a great content creator.
Same here friendo you can be hybrid knight like being a dangerous scout with a primary that does 100 on hit along with reach on your melee, stock demo the most powerful demo of all with it's demolition capabilities to singlehandly defeat ever class in game, then demoknight in different variations of weapons.
The loch n load is amazing for hybrid knight, that extra damage against enemy buildings helps compensate for the loss in effectiveness against sentries. The loose cannon isn’t that great imo, it’s the worse grenade launcher for taking out buildings and you can’t land consecutive double donks because your target is most likely either gonna get knocked around which messes up your aim or they’re gonna get sent flying on the first double donk which makes it almost impossible to land another one. It’s only good for dealing high burst damage with one shot if you can get the double donk which requires more brain power than just landing all of your pipes with the other grenade launchers.
I open a case on occasion. I treat it basically the same as a lotto ticket, I know I probably won't make any profit off of it but it's fun to try my luck every now and then. The problem is trying to make a profit off of it, that can turn into an addiction.
hot take: the reason why demoman is balanced and sniper is not is that demoman has to commit to a pretty sluggish reload if he misses. Now, sniper's rifle does have a longish reload, but there is no point where the sniper thinks "oh shit, I missed all my shots, I have to reload them all, oh god this is gonna take forever." I feel like after every four shots sniper should be forced to do a hard reload which takes time, giving *downtime* in between shots. Just like how demoman can sticky spam and lock down a chokepoint, but can't constantly lay down a wall of stickies for an entire minute because the long reload time of the sticky launcher gives the enemy a tiny bit of down time to push in and not have to deal with the menace that is stock demo.
You're not wrong, but you're omitting something important. Comparing Sniper and Demo's reload times in a vacuum ignores the fact that Sniper's effective range is way bigger than Demo. A slow reload in a close/midrange fight is a death sentence. A slow reload when you're on the other side of the map is way less punishing.
@@FBombFitzgerald I completely agree, but even a tiny window for a scout to flank can get that sniper down. Take harvest, a longer reload after fourish shots there means the sniper can't hit a scout that's running into the building he's almost certainly sniping from. It gives the scout a fighting chance. Because as it currently stands, sniper can literally hold down M1 for an entire minute with only a second of down time in between each shot, and removing quickscoping soft buffs turtling snipers by removing one of their weaknesses, so I think this change is probably warranted.
@@TiredLowBrass8048 Great thoughts. Your hypothetical of the Scout running at the Sniper made me think of LazyPurple's sniper video with the overly committed Scout focusing him. I do like the HiGPS mod idea of just giving the sniper less ammo. I should make a video of some of the cooler stuff on the HiGPS balancemod servers, there really are some good ideas being tested there.
It makes sense that the Iron Bomber is the preferred 6s weapon since the smaller team size and differing team composition makes the blast radius penalty less important. Players are also going to be more careful to dodge the pipes, so the bigger hitbox making them easier to connect is more necessary. That said, the Stock Grenade Launcher is clearly the better option in a casual 12v12 game. You'll have up to 11 other enemies that can be affected by the splash damage, many of whom will be clustered next to other players and key targets instead of being properly spaced out. You'll see plenty more instances of turtling engies and medics performing mid-match colonoscopies, which the better splash damage can exploit. A bigger hitbox also doesn't mean much when choke points are so crowded with players that shooting anywhere is inevitably going to hit someone. The increased number of engineers in casual also better justifies the Grenade Launcher since is is better at destroying whole nests and any players near than the Iron Bomber is. The Stock Launcher is simply the better option in casual.
I don't think you understand how big the actual hit box is or how little the blast radius con is, the iron bomber grenade is 8 times the volume of a regular one and in general around 3 times as big in hitbox size you can hit people nowhere near it, shorter fuse time and less rolling means it will actually hit people with splash damage more than stock If you miss since they can't react to it fast enough, and 15% loss is literally a few hammer units it makes literally no fucking difference lmao
@@largin386 a demo is worth a med. and unless you are really good at airshotting you wont be able to stop him. im mostly referring to sticky jumper + caber of course. and comp players do look up. im not even a comp player but I think it was busted in comp. and I do think sniper is overpowered. also if you want to have a discussion make it civilized. and take a less angry tone
@@xavior1352 the solution is simple one cap out the caber's damage so that it can't one shot medics but it can still can one shot other light classes instead of that valve made the caber can't kill anything
the entire reason the sticky jumper isn't a god tier weapon is because you *lose stickybombs for equipping it*... it just doesn't make sense to give up one of the most reliable weapons in the entire game to compensate for your primary's flaw. just use stickies for long range instead of the iron bomber lol
It's unbelievably refreshing to see a large tf2 youtuber who isn't afraid of or constantly sucking off competitive players and their ridiculous metas. Sometimes it can get really, really old hearing arguments for trickle-down balance and the like. Also I cannot believe the base jumper thing. I just don't even know what to say. Pick sniper if scout doesn't work at medium to long range? Or use a pistol? Orr any other class that has medium to long range effectiveness?
Yeah I love uncle Dane but I hate his trickle down balance video. He says that the nerfs are only for competitive players and that the casual players won’t notice, but I surely noticed, and I’m sure everyone else did too
Did any of the banned weapons that Valve nerfed in Jungle Inferno even get unbanned? I know the Base Jumper is still banned, but I don't know about the others.
20:52 in Middleville mode some mad man just destroyed our team by 5 frkin crits in a row we all pushed to last and this guy just came and killed us all with crits like mad man
Grenade Launcher- Stock Iron Bomber- Easier to hit rollers, Easier to grenade jump, -30% range -15% explosion radius (Grenade jumping only matters with Hybrid Knight) Loch-N-Load- Easier pipes, longest range of grenade launchers, no rollers, -25% explosion radius, -25% sustain in fights and no grenade jumping Loose Cannon- Potential to deal more damage than stock, stronger against light classes, easiest to use for grenade jumps, weakest range of grenade launchers, Hitting the enemy without Double-Donking only deals half the damage of the other Grenade launchers
As someone playing TF2 since nearly 14 years consistently. I can tell Zesty is fucking on point about TF2 facts and stats. Pretty good serie so far ! Can't wait for the rest.
The Scottish Resistance is hugely useful on offense, and the main reason is flankers. Scouts, Soldiers, Pyros, Spies, and occasionally huntsman Snipers, all make liberal use of the various alternative routes through most maps to try and get behind a big push and either distract or decimate the opponent. By laying down more obvious traps in these routes, you can direct them into predictable locations where your team is ready for them, or you have a more hidden trap prepared. Since you can see the stickies through walls, you can tell if they're being destroyed or airblasted, giving you the chance to warn your team and be prepared for the usually solitary flanker. This also wastes time for the flanker as they go around or disarm the trap, lest they risk rapid unplanned limb detachment surgery.
if this tier list is a general tier list, frankly none of the demoknight options or the scotres should be so high up, since they only really perform well in environments where the enemy team doesnt know what theyre doing, and in that case isnt every weapon good
Nah demoknight is comp viable. Its just that demo’s stock weapons are just bread and butter and.. I mean you’re taking up a demoman slot. And not many are trying to master demoknight as much as theyre trying to master stickyspamming.
@@mauroghen demoknight is not comp viable, granted he needs to be in melee distance of enemies to do anything, and long before he would be killed by soldiers scouts or demomen. he would be worse than spy
plus, calling sticky bomb launcher use stickyspamming is like calling scattergun shots bullet spamming or every rocket fired rocket spamming. it takes skill, but because it has one situation where it is effective at low skill levels, against low skilled players people call the whole weapon a spam weapon.
@@mauroghen comp viable? Maybe. Pub servers? Yes. If you meet an enemy team who is good enough, has sentries/pyros who m2? You are a burden to your team, worse than a spy.
Something i don't understand about the whole "loch and load is a crutch" argument is this: why is loch seen as a crutch but the direct hit isn't? The only thing i ever hear about the direct is jokingly calling it a bad weapon but it has the same basic idea as the loch. You give up easy-to-use splash damage in exchange for shots that are easier to get direct hits with. The thing is, the loch only has more damage against buildings but the direct hit gets the bonus on all shots to everything. So why is the direct hit given a pass but the loch and load gets called a crutch?
It's likely because the Soldier's rockets immediately explode upon hitting anything, while the Demo's pills will just roll about aimlessly for a moment. This means that the soldier can abuse this to a way greater extent as by the time your pills explode as demo, 90% of players will have just walked in the other direction. In comparison, soldiers can shoot at the ground near you and still have a somewhat decent damage output (though still worse than direct hits). Long story short, that instant splash damage marks a massive difference between the two classes, and demo depriving himself of rollerz for easier to hit pills isn't really all that much of a downside in around 70% of situations. However, the soldier's whole playstyle revolves around that AOE damage that he can easily apply, so trading that in for shots that are easier to directly hit with additional damage is actually a much more fair trade off in the context of both of their kits
27:10 Blast radius and increased blast splash dmg only matters if enemies literally hug each other, if not Iron Bomber will ALWAYS outdmg stock, and here's why. Shorter fuse time. It basically semi rewards Demo for missing pipes, because if enemy doesn't react too fast and run away, it will detonate faster, giving less time to run away or close the distance on Demo. Also because pipes don't bounce, they're more likely to stay near enemy team trying to do objective(for example cart or point) or protect objective. So no Zesty, Iron Bomber IS undeniably OP AF. It takes less skill to use and it rewards Demo for missing via shorter fuse on bombs and almost no bounce. Literally unless you playing Junction where the control point is in a very tight space, stock will suck compared to Iron Bomber, only reason to use stock over bomber is because Stock has a GODDIE looking Australium. And when demo loads grenades, They're golden, GOLDEN my guy. This aesthetic alone makes it worth using
I use stock and iron bomber interchangeably in pubs. Both have their strengths and weaknesses, and I think each largely boils down to personal preference. It's the game's best example of a direct side grade in my opinion: Stronger in some circumstances, weaker in others, but feels unique. The reason comp demo so highly values the iron bomber over stock comes down to specific circumstances the demoman faces in comp that rarely come up in casual play. The main situation that comes to mind is when the demoman is forced to defend against a "Sack wave", where anywhere from 1 to 5 players dive in at the Demoman and Medic in a coordinated suicidal strike with the sole goal of killing the medic or forcing the ubercharge. Sack waves of two soldiers bombing in from the skybox at Mach 2 attempting to sync rockets on a Medic + Demo Combo are a common occurrence in Competitive that you will rarely if ever find in a causal setting. Because of the iron bomber's increased pill hitbox and the more weighty, predictable feel of its arc, the iron bomber gives the comp demo a not insignificant increase in his ability to pull off airshots against top level sacking soldiers, which can often lead to the survival of the medic/ubercharge and preventing the loss of a round. Additionally, players in competitive are much less likely to be grouped up in ways that the demoman can take advantage of with his stock pills and stock rollers, making the reliability of the IB's stationary rollers another tool in an expert demoman's toolkit. Having said this, these things are usually insignificant in casual play and which launcher I use largely comes down to which launcher best suits the specific map or scenario at hand. Good vid :)
No. The only reason it's better than Ham is because it has strange variant, if it didn't ham would be popularer... Sadly I use Crossing Sign because strange Pan is too expensive and ham doesn't have strangifier
I'm more bothered by him thinking Eyelander+Shield somehow counters Explosive classes and Pyro, even tho Pyro can literally just use airblast to counter both hybrid and Demoknight. And explosive classes mostly hard counter full Demoknight and soft countered by pro hybrid demo, but he had ZERO issues with said Explosive classes being HARD countered by base jumper on top of scouts being hard countered as well... Also his "just use Heavy vs Base jumper lol" critique literally applies to shield+eyelander demos as well so..
First, what he said was that the Hi GPS platform made an update to demoknight that gives him knockback resistance, so airblast didn’t do much and that’s when he nearly never died, Zesty talked about an experiment, while also giving his opinion about Eylander 5 heads that grant demoknight pretty much heavy health against 2 damage types while also having the ability to chase scouts since he is faster than then, which crosses the line of scout being able to counter demoknight, thus proposing a little nerf that keeps him with a bit lower health yet high, and a good mobility that won't be faster than scout. About the B.A.S.E jumper: from what he said, not only heavy can counter this but also a sentry, a sniper and in most cases the scout (every hitscan). That’s 3 more classes, it is good to remember that by using this mobility tool you sacrifice your primary damage dealer for demoman and the secondary for soldier that has fall off damage dealer, which is a pretty heavy deal. Lastly, from my experience of watching his videos, whenever he uses the whiny voice that represents another opinion of the fan base or mostly, the competitive one, he gives a full, respectful answer to it, I think it's more of a comical use rather than a disrespectful one. This video only had some less explanations, but the argument wasn’t the main purpose of the video, if he wanted he could make a video that includes all of it, but does it worth the effort of making a video on? He has his reasons to not like competitive TF2 players and you should keep in mind that he didn't really do much to them except giving his opinion on certain topics of the game. (BTW is it really right to criticize someone through the internet and determine if he is good or bad with simple terms? "It's the internet baby!" Everyone says whatever they feel like…) (Sorry for making it long, what do you think? I will be happy to know :)
Its so true about the Base Jumper. You used to be able to bomb up, deploy, fire some shots, drop down to avoid being a sitting duck, then redeploy it to avoid fall damage. Now when you use this you just take so much damage. I wish they would either revert it, give it a 1 second cooldown, immunity to fall damage or just something to make it not such a waste of a primary slot.
They can't revert it, cause it was absolutely broken as troldier (I abused it for years). It's still very strong even now. Maybe they could separate the soldier and demo versions?
Giving the caber the ability to be thrown with alt fire could be interesting since it would be a full demo-knights only ranged option while still making it gimmicky.
"There's a hidden little gem with the stock sticky bomb launcher that not a lot of people know" *gets ad* *"PIZZA HUT'S DETROIT DEEP DISH STYLE PIZZA IS BACK"* That made me chuckle
I disagree with the eyelander thing, I think demoknight is perfectly fine where he is. _Maybe_ they could get rid of one head's worth of health, but not the final head of movement speed. Big movement speed is fun, and demoknight has no ranged weapons, so he needs a way to effectively close the distance. Then again what do I know I just enjoy drunk man go fast.
I feel like people have forgotten what a crutch weapon is, which is any item that makes it easier to play / gives an advantage at very little cost to you. By definition, the Iron Bomber is a crutch because 90% of the people using it only do so for the “larger” projectile. The one good reason for using it is for the mini-jumps you can do with the grenades but at that point just use the Cannon. Saying it’s anything but a crutch is a straight up lie.
Dare I say it, but I genuinely love using the base jumper with the scottish resistance. You forget that a majority of TF2 players still do not know how to look up for some reason. It works best on defense in attack/defend and payload, since you'll be targeting a whole team who actually has a place where they all need to stand. So you can hover miles over their heads, unload 14 stickies right on top of them with your faster fire rate, and watch as they scramble around trying to figure out how they ended up in the middle of a giant sticky trap. And then they blow up. It's kinda awesome.
I don't even have to watch the video to know the Loose Cannon is S tier, It deserves nothing less. Highest damaging primary? Yes. Most skill based primary for demo? Yes. Most satisfying weapon to use? Yes. The only downside of the Loose Cannon, is that if you're a stock main you ain't hitting those double donks because your brain completely lacks the braincells to time it correctly due to rotting for so many years.
Although double donking is a dopamine rush when you hit the cannonballs, you can kill multiple people faster and more reliably with just spamming the 4 shots on the stock/iron bomber. It's S tier for skill, but most people just don't bother because stock/iron bomber already offers enough stopping power. The only time LC absolutely dominates over stock is if you shoot the balls at the exact range where timing them isn't necessary as that deals more damage than stock but just as fast. Also the knockback makes pyro's presence seem unnecessary as it can substitute the airblast vs ubers fairly well.
I'm sorry stock is so much better than the iron bomber. Stock is for people that can hit their shots and iron bomber is for people with less than perfect aim.
So just some numbers I'll put here: random crits are damage dealt in the last 20 seconds, and it goes up to 60% for melee (12% for every other weapon). this means, on average, 6/10 hits are going to crit with 800 damage dealt. this means, on average, you're dealing 3x damage 6/10 times for a total damage increase of 180%. This means stock deals an average of 117 damage, and scottsman's deals 140 average. THIS is why it feels so extreme with random crits. Because the average damage is way more than it's advertising.
Ahh, my class of choice. A few things: 1. How would you feel if the Demoman could equip the Base Jumper in either the primary _or_ the secondary slot, allowing him to use it with pills? I think this plus a Loose Cannon could be an interesting combination. 2. I like the Iron Bomber for three main reasons: a) the smaller blast radius means I can fire at targets closer than stock before hurting myself b) the shorter fuse offers fewer opportunities for pyros to damage me with reflectiles c) the high friction rollers provide a less punishing alternative to sticky jumping 3. My gut keeps telling me there’s a yet-to-be-discovered powerhouse subclass with the following loadout: Booties, Quicky, Eyelander. However, I don’t think I’m brave enough to attempt it myself.
The last one was a thing once, but valve nerved it by making the speed boost from the boots only apply when you wear a shield. And personally I don't think it's worth giving up your primary for 25 health.
The smaller blast radius only affect enemies, it's the same for you regardless of the Blast Radius modification, the Direct Hit still inflicts self-damage in the same radius as the Rocket Launcher, my guess is its to make explosive jumping consistant across all weapons.
I think we all can collectively agree on one thing. The fact that Demo reloads his grenades into the same single chamber every time and doesn't evenly put a single grenade in each chamber should be a crime against humanity.
Finally. Someone who understands that the caber was perfectly fine. "B-BUT YOU CAN ONESHOT MEDICS!!!" So can sniper from any range without putting yourself in danger. Also, screw the loch-and-load. I only hate it because it's got 2 barrels but 3 shots.
A sniper can't one-shot a Medic unless they're a dumbass who walks into an open sightline without teammates defending them. If the map makes it easy for that to happen then it's a badly designed map. Sniper is a perfect check against Medic who would otherwise dominate the meta even more and make offensive pushes even more powerful. Demoman on the other hand could just throw his life away sticky jumping across the map and trade for the enemy Medic, which is always worth it because a Medic dying is far more important than a demo dying. It wasn't overpowered, it was just a dumb gimmick that both teams had to indulge in to try and get uber advantage on the other team and degenerates the pace of games.
@@ShakerSilver Lol nah. Get outta here with that biased competitive shit. They nerved it because comp kiddies hated it when their medic got oneshot. A thing not normally a problem since sniper isn't one of the standard 4 comp classes.
The deal with the pain train is that the 10 percent doesn’t actually cross any damage thresholds. Except for like an engineer with the widowmaker and a sentry targeting you. I could see it being very useful in 6s
