[TF2] The Holiday Punch: Heavy's Naughtiest Melee 

Aw, that's clever.

On this night, January 6th 2023, I give you your 100th like.

Mine is named after the guy I mitten dueled

​@@madcat789 one day after my birthday 👍

I named my half zat the "full zatoichi" and the description is "it's just better"

Random crit

@@ArkhamMaster. yes, because random crits are fair and balanced

@@JackNick2000 truly one of the balance decisions ever

@@ArkhamMaster. That's still letting the slowest class in the game into melee range. When you can just walk away.

@@ArkhamMaster. If Heavy gets a random crit on you with a melee weapon, you're probably already dead anyway.

i love denying ubers with it it is the most funny way to stop ubercharges

@@PegasisterRejuvenated the amount of rage medics get because some guy commited holiday punch on you

Or you're an actual spy, and you're disguising as a hoovy so you can trick people in to letting you get behind them

@@UH-60_Blackhawk and with kritzkrieg, you beat regular uber push while still having +25% extra charge rate

This weapon is meta on dustbowl.

Expect when your a medic making a push and the heavy just walk up and the RNG telling you to go F yourself

The “/“ I set as my killbind:

the slowest, largest and most unsneaky class in the game, i can't even be mad

So that’s probably WHY it’s accepted by the community, because it actually is YOUR fault for basically letting it happen. It’s genius!

Not to mention they have their own battle to deal with involving the game's absolutely crap melee hitreg in particular, AND the multiple specificities the holiday punch needs to work (enemy must be on ground, not taunting, etc.) And they need to be sneaky on top of everything else for it to work usually at all. They well deserve the tauntkill they're likely about to pull off.

pretty sure that "i was wrong about the quickybomb launcher" is closer

That would be cool

@algumber Or Jarate lmao Anyone that even suggests that Jarate isn't Sniper's strongest tool (yes, even stronger than any Rifle) is insane. Jarate is frankly OP.

@@Eye_Of_Odin978 I remember someone in the wrap assassin video saying that the strongest sniper weapon wasn't jarate, it was the cozy camper lol, pretty sure that guy didn't watch more than 10 seconds of the jarate video

maybe the "in defense of" series

The Lobby: Be polite, be professional and let the ritual complete.

Well it's considered polite (and funny) to let someone pull off a taunt kill. Especially against your sniper. I mean if you don't let a scout launch him to the other side of 2-fort with a bat, you don't have a soul!

Server: "The sacrifice has begun"

@@5upertnt_ng73 I understood that reference

@@_TeaForTwo i literally have no idea what reference that is, but thanks anyways :]

Giggity

I’m buying a strange on and naming it that

@@skifity ayyy, that’s exactly what I did, I even put “taunt kills” on it. : )

I named mine the “schidy slack”

I just named "santa's personal basher" without even thinking about it

Meta-analysis is never a shallow endeavor.

I don't know. Although it requires a group effort, a fish free-for-all or demopan duel will always be funnier to me

@@kosmikme demopan is beyond funny it's hilarious

A heavy at MELEE RANGE lol

yea holiday punch looses to all the things people are doing already because there do be spies.

@@kR-qj7rw If these gloves were on demoknight that would be a different story, but being the slow russian is a whole thing altogether.

"I can't stop you, so I'll mildly inconvenience you until someone else does" _--using the Holiday Punch against an uber_

Bc then you’d have to make a real comparison and argument between the gloves, the scorch shot (which can stuff ubers on consecutive direct hits), airblast, stickyspam (on lighclasses) and all the other bs that stuffs ubers And this is supposed to be a video defending the gloves

@@davidhong1934 What? If you get the medic the uber is wasted

Also the unless you ambush them, your relying on rng to stuff a Uber on melee weapon on heavy, so it kinda of a gambit

@@davidhong1934 by "midly inconvenience" you mean completely stop a uber-push, and possibly get two people killed, including a medic?

It would be a goofy direct downgrade on spy outside of stuffing ubers overpowered on demoknight, it's demoknight, guaranteed crits and random crits + stun and instakill on the best meled class in the game, need i say more useless on engineer, you will almost always kill the enemies with your sentry before backing them, even then you use your shotgun good on medic, enemies usually get upclose so random critting them will save you Absolutely busted on scout, double jumping behind enemies to stun them Fine on soldier, would almost never come into play Great on sniper, enemies want to get close to you, so you can pull this out and fuck them over Fine on pyro, you hardly need to use your melee but i see this synergize well with the backburner, and pyro has flanking options

Imagine this thing as a Scout weapon Taunt kill and all

@@duncanchillake8024 it would be pretty with medic because if you crit with it on your first hit against a health enemy you can start booking it while they are laughing

wdym he mentioned that like 3 separate times

The Halloween Claw

The Monster Smash or Pumpkin Punch?

@@Daehpo Pumpkin Smasher

@@Daehpo THE MONSTER MASHER

The Spooky Smack

It's a sacred ritual. If a Speavy manages to backstab someone with the Mittens, said person that got backstabbed's fate is dictated by luck. Interrupting the ritual for any reason is a bad move.

kritzkrieg + medigun + holiday punch = invincible pootis pow

*Merry Kritzmas

Especially because random crits on everything else just kill you with 195. So at least a random laugh has a chance to whiff or have you get saved lol Random crits just aren't really worth talking about on it lol. It really do just be funny haha fat spy without and good spy tools/speed

Yes, but they're ones that Valve themselves have only really adopted "recently" if you count Jungle Inferno as "recent." The Atomizer gave you an extra jump until 2017, the Pocket Pistol had extra base health until 2015, it was the wild west of balancing back in the day.

@@fishstickonastick-gaming Those changes were reverted quite quickly however (in the Atomizaer's case, it also always had a visual affect - the Scout's extra jumps got a purple puff-cloud affect). Few items with passive upsides have ever had (let alone kept) said upsides without having a permanent visual cue on the character at all times.

@@DBArtsCreators Alot of weapons had their stats barely touched or slightly tweaked until a toolbox was brought in to retune them. PBPP was 2012-2015(Permanent Health before Health on Hit), Soda Popper was 2011-2013(Mini-Crits to 5 Jumps), Equalizer 2009-2012(before the speed was moved to the Escape Plan), and Razorback and Amby 2009-2017(one was practically a straight upgrade and the other treaded into another classes specialty while maintain your class features before JI). Some weapons had their passives quickly changed, but many did not, and many weapons that we're questionable never gotten their stats heavily adjusted until some time had passed.

Eapecially since that same character can turn off the range mechanics for his teammates every 20 seconds with one of the biggest aoes in the game for no significant cost.

because fuck the scorch shot

Because rockets are A: much slower than a flare gun (3000 hammer units compared to 1200) B: On a slower class that can't get into good positions as easily without using up those rockets. C: needs to slowly reload those rockets after 4 shots, rather than 16 with a super slow single reload. D: Doesn't bounce so you can't get stunlocked from a double hit. E: doesn't do nearly as much damage as the scorch shot at those ranges.

Since, rockets are easier to dodge and much more clearly seen, you don't see a flare unless they're really far, or landed near or on you

Hey, I saw you on TV last night!

"nooooooo you can't use stun strategically, It's supposed to be a meme weapon! " "haha, uber go poof"

Also, you're using a shotgun as heavy? Respect 👏

@@Bnvnu Panic Attack covers Natascha's weaknesses and people do not realize that.

​@@vanilla8956how does panic atack covers Natasha weakness? By being able to make a fast switch to shotgun instead of revving up?

@@cheese3764 Both of Natascha's downsides combine to make heavy much worse at reacting to a sudden close range threat. The brass beast's damage makes it at virtually a guaranteed instakill at close range once you get it finally revved up. But Natascha's lower damage, while literally ignorable at long and mid range, is more noticable up close. Having a quick high damage option for close range for you to switch to when caught of guard covers the weakness and let's you reposition to cause the most disruption with the slowdown easier

That includes all melee, you're oversimplifying the dillema quite a bit

That's bad sportsmanship. If you plan to be offensive with the mittens, you have to commit with the tauntkill. Anything else is poor sportsmanship.

Landing three hits in a row as the slowest class in the game wouldn't be viable (and would also just kill most light classes on the first two hits most of the time) so it wouldn't change much realistically

Should've been nerfed, not murdered

"But the Tomislav is still not fast enugh :((((" Shotguns exist.

Tomislav yes, it's faster But it's still slow enough that you can still be outplayed