The grinder is always more important than the coffee machine. (Never cheap out on it). This fact basically the only thing that every professional Barista agrees on!
amazon regularly has the Delonghi ECP3420 on sale for $120 and it comes with a pressurized portafilter so beginners can use pre-ground coffee without spending $120+ on a grinder. Plus it has a steaming wand. Far better and more user friendly entry point for the $$!
Not really. You can get fully electric espresso machines for a little over $100 that do a pretty good job. They don't have the fancy adjustable settings or a built in grinder or anything like that, but they do a good job.
@@iNotSoTall In my opinion, you should save a little longer and get the regular 58 with the electric heating. My least favorite part with my Pro 2 was preheating the brew chamber. It would constantly fall to one side of my V60 on top of my kettle and preheat unevenly, and I had to make sure it goes back on the kettle after I pull a shot to keep warm. Not to mention having to pull it apart for the next shot means some hot water inevitability splashes on my hands. The electric heating in the 58 was a GODSEND to my workflow. I could turn it on, go brush my teeth, and it's ready to pull a shot. No falling brew chambers, no constant grabbing of hot parts, no placing it back on the kettle to keep it hot for a new shot. The extra $100 for electric heating is well worth it, in my opinion.
The beauty of Flair is in the traditional, bare-bone, non-electric factor. If electricity is involved, I'd rather just go for a completely different system already. But then again, to each of his own.
Flair Neo is a decent machine, but i would 100% go with either the Signature or Pro 2. The Signature sits right in between the Neo and Pro 2 price wise, and if you want, you can upgrade to the Pro 2 brew chamber later on and is basically the same machine.
@@stickmouse5002they're just slightly different machines, so come with different size portafilters and brew chambers. The neo is the cheepest because it doesn't come with a bottomless portafilter so if you want one you have to spend an extra 20 quid on it or whatever.
@@johnhurley8918let's say you drinks double espresso a day, and a filter coffee. That's about 60g of coffee beans a day. That's 1.5 - 2kg of coffee a month. Now let's say you buy the highest quality of coffee for 60-80€/kg, you're at 150€ tops for the beans. And that's pushing the upper limit of beans for normal consumption. You can basically Buy a good filter grinder for the rest of the money and be Set for life. Save two months and you could buy a moccamaster for amazing drin coffee at home
I love my flair pro, they make a legit metal tamper in the right size for that one - I'm not sure but I think they also sell a metal tamper in the right size for the base model & Neo, which would help a lot
@@syaondri flair has way better control and able to pre heat. Staresso cant. Why is this important? Staresso can only do darker roasts but this one can do all. For example, you can see the on in the video
Stay away from the Breville ones, unless you're buying the espresso machine that has it built in. The BReville Machines are pretty decent for the price range and if you're willing to learn how to use it.
Its because youve never tried find a good and cheap espresso machine. It be a luxury for me, but I know finding a decent espresso machine under $500 is hard.
@@jebidiahkornThat $99 can create the absolute best espresso you can make at your home. Or you can buy $50 espresso machine that breaks after 3 times use and taste horrible
Unfortunately real espresso needs a large amount of pressure to make and is often difficult to make machines for cheap but coffee you can make for like two cents 😂
glad they released a new product that's just a slightly improved flair classic for a lower pricepoint. The newer products were getting progressively more ridic Edit: This video is wrong also, this is the neo FLEX
Honestly one of those traditional water in the bottom Beans on top where you just let the water boil tastes sooo so good, takes 2 minutes and costs around 15 bucks
i would say considering buying flair neo flex isn't worth it, personally. Maybe spent a little more on the picopresso or flair pro 2 would be better as there are range of upgrades available.
The basket size isn't standard so you'd have a tough time looking for tampers unless someone's already made one for the Flair Classic/Neo Flex. But you don't have to worry that much about it if you're using the pressurized basket.
Idk where u buy espresso machines but mine is electric and cost me 80 euros 3 years ago. I like espresso but I'm not pumping it in the morning like getting water in a farm in the middle of nowhere.
@@jon11383 The Neo came with a pressurized portafilter too. And I just have a 50$ used Baratza Encore, nothing fancy for a grinder lol. You should absolutely get a good grinder first.
Wow, it's almost like you don't need $1000 equipment to make a good cup of coffee. We have had a $40 expresso machine for all my life and it still foams milk, brews cups, and we have all the other tools that came with it, the thing is older than me but works just as good
from having a cafetiere, moka pot, aeropress, sage bambino plus... i prefer the taste of the moka pot, but its a fuck about, espresso is nice and convienient, aeropress is great for work or taking away with you and cafetiere is just shit.
I love that video! The misconception that you need a $1500 machine to make good espresso is too widespread 😭 We have to give some more love to freash roasts, grinders and puck prep! ❤️✨
the problem is that cheap machines have plastic in contact with the water and or coffee, and some of us prefer to pay more just to not get a hot cup of cancer with a touch of BPA
@@Kompoteek nah, I don't trust . if Bunn makes plastic free drip coffee makers , someone else can definitely make Expresso machine plastic free. they just have to stop being cheap. I'll drink drip coffee until I can afford otherwise
I believe in taking care of myself and a balanced diet and rigorous exercise routine. In the morning if my face is a little puffy I'll put on an ice pack while doing stomach crunches. I can do 1000 now. After I remove the ice pack I use a deep pore cleanser lotion. In the shower I use a water activated gel cleanser, then a honey almond body scrub, and on the face an exfoliating gel scrub. Then I apply an herb-mint facial mask which I leave on for 10 minutes while I prepare the rest of my routine. I always use an after shave lotion with little or no alcohol, because alcohol dries your face out and makes you look older. Then moisturizer, then an anti-aging eye balm followed by a final moisturizing protective lotion
Hi! I'm very new at making espresso and i'm interested on this machine. I'm just wondering, does it make a single or double shot? I apologize if my question is stupid, i'm very new at this. Please educate me. Thanks!!
An update on the price This seems to be a flair Classic, retail price is around $165 The Flair Neo Flex is around $100 Although it has a pressurized porta filter (it is not seen in this video) to create “artificial pressure” As for the espresso, your best bet would be to buy the Classic if you are worried about having a weak bodied espresso
That’s a $100 Neo Flex in the video. It comes with 2 baskets included, 1 naked as seen here and 1 pressurised. You can use either based on your preference.
I had that machine for a week, it was pretty good at making espresso, but the process was a bit more demanding in order to not only prep the shot, but also to clean it and store it. All that would have been fine by me really but after a few shots I noticed the plastic was becoming more and more creaky. I tried doing slow and low pressure pulls on the lever, but it was still very noisy and felt cheap, like it would break with minimal force. Luckily I got my money back and ended up getting a cheap espresso machine with a bottomless portafilter and it pulls similar shots in seconds of prep and clean up. Great product but kind of a gimmick compared to their all metal construction counterparts that are cheap if you want a very tactile feeling brewing process.
@@ravynme8975 I got a delonghi ec3630, but the only issue is the steam wand is weak, so you might need a different way to froth milk, or mod the wand for a different high pressure one.
This is proof that you don't need $4000 to get good espresso at home. I was going to go this route but needed a steaming wand and grinder and the Breville Barista Express was on sale at Best Buy for only 550
Idk I’ll just use my Nespresso. I don’t feel like grinding my own beans, and doing all of that work. It might be worth it, but I just need a cup of iced coffee in the morning.
I am drinking coffee. the coffee packet was not sealed and it became sticky leather. i boiled that gooey coffee in half a cup of water then add one cup of milk boiled it for 2 min and my coffee was ready.
Exactly. I’ll never understand the people that get all this extra coffee stuff, unless it’s some kind of hobby and they enjoy making coffee or something. It’s just crazy to me people will spend hundreds to thousands of $ just to slightly increase the taste of coffee
"what would you do if I told you this was made with a $100 espresso machine?" Well as someone who doesn't drink coffee and is only here for the asmr...
The espresso machine is the least important part, and a manual lever machine is pretty hard to f-up if you use an expensive grinder (which you ARE using)
Me watching this, while sitting at a coffee shop drinking a $7 cappuccino 🥲😂 my thing is.. if I spend $500 on a nice machine, will I actually make good coffee? You can have a $300 skillet. Doesn’t mean the food will turn out amazing, ya know?
It's not really hard to pull a good shot. You can train someone to do it in a shift. So at home watch a video or two and get your tamp right and that's really it. The real crux of the issue is also getting something that has a decent steam wand to steam milk and then you can make drinks. I have a KitchenAid machine I got for $200 which makes a shot I'm happy with. Had it for a year now and the amount of coffee I've made with it instead of going out has probably paid for the machine at this point. To put it another way, you only need to make 29 $7 lattes to break even on a $200 machine.
