Considering the skid Tony has been on. Khabib would have had his number. Not saying Tony couldn't get it done but if they fight 10 times. Tony wins 3 of them.. Maybe
Unpopular opinion but too be fair to Stephen A Smith, Cowboy has come out and said he didn't want to be there. Immediately after the fight it didn't look great but years after the incident he was kinda right...
Actually Max Kellerman is right. Boxing smaller gloves and 12 round matches make it a "battle of the Will" and if you quitt is considered "You didnt had a strong enought Will". In MMA, an arm bar is way more painfull, but most fans forgives it because it's Nature (no, fans don't make fun of McGregor for tapping, they make fun because he is an asshole). Thats The reason, I suspect, you see way more boxers earning each other respect, Even after they hated each other, than In MMA. In boxing is hard to hate a guy who endured your punishment. In MMA many strickers (no everybody) hate each other more after the bout because they can mentally excuse their Lost by "he just catch me with one blow, he lucky, he no better than me".
It’s hilarious watching this in 2023 at the time of recording Tony was considered one of the best lightweights of all time cut to 3 years later the Kabib fight never happened and Tony is on a 6 fight losing streak 😂😂
1:50 Fun fact: The guy on the left is Magnus Carlsen, the best chess player in the world. That day he had a brutal diarrhea, so he agreed to a draw with the other guy and left the place ASAP.
quit - to stop or discontinue and action or activity...so technically it is built in given the tap, it just doesn't mean anything like the disrespectful way these idiots try and use it. Good analogy to make him look stupid, because that's "quitting" just as much as tapping, it just doesn't mean giving up like this stephen a is making it out. So disrespectful to the athletes, I don't care if it's a sound bite or not!
@@truecrimejungle The same thing can be said about boxing, you can verbally quit aka "verbal tap" and your corner can throw in the towel. There is basically no difference so the dude didnt know what he was talking about. Totally agree with ya.
Woooow you people literally know nothing 😂 Smith knows fuck all. McGregor came in the murder gear, anyone would have folded literally anyone. Busted nose and a direct head kick....fuck me.
@@_zachmcall but the clinching is done to afford better opportunities for grappling. In boxing, clinching is just a dead-end mean to protect yourself. One has a purpose of continuing the fight the other is just a break in between rounds
@@sweetneko1257 nah you can work in the Clinch in boxing if you do it right. It's just that it depends on the referee for how long they let you work in there. Watch julio cesar Chavez and Roberto Duran for example. You can also press a dude up against the cage for the whole round and stomp his feet and even win by that. You can't win a boxing fight by clinching
Ngl Stephen A's video of hitting mitts was really impressive. I've actually never seen someone throw so many hooks without getting his hands anywhere NEAR his face to put up a guard.
@@Bowfella For real, if someone started the fight steady jabbing my thighs and knees, I'm pretty sure I'd be confused enough that they'd have an advantage.
Next fight for Dana to book: Skip Bayless vs Steven A Smith. Unfortunately I think Smith outweighs him by like 40 pounds and has like 5 inches of reach on him.
that makes no sense.. a provocateur doesnt want to be known as uninformed or unintelligent. it's a classic case of opening your mouth and having nothing to say. everything on this list has had a negative effect on anyone who said it.
A provocateur by definition just wants to provoke a response. they don't particularly care what they are thought of afterwards they just want a response. fact is we are still talking about these things no matter how stupid they are which means the goal was achieved. It provoked a response. It makes perfect sense if you actually have a dictionary. Here I'll help you. A provocateur is one who provokes. pro·voke /prəˈvōk/ verb stimulate or give rise to (a reaction or emotion, typically a strong or unwelcome one) in someone.
Kevin Lashlee they want to be right. The only thing they provoked was laughter and facepalming. We are talking about them for being rly bad mma journalists, that isn’t their goal at all. They want to have unique provocative takes that have merit. The lack of logic removes their comments from the provocateur title and moves it into the clueless category.
No they don't they want to be listened to and people to pay them attention. Hence provocateurs. If you think that then you don't watch these mainstream guys on their own channels. Stephen A Smith basically bragged about the fact that it is his product to say things like and how he makes his money. The really good ones can say dumb things and then twist it or spin it and people still watch them and the fact that we are actually debating the things they said with any merit tells you that they are succeeding. if the goal was to be correct all the time then a lot of them would be unemployed, especially Bayless. But they make big bucks doing this bit. the fact that you assume every commentator wants to be seen as correct all the time rather than just marketable as a commentator is incredibly naive. And again you don't actually understand what a provocateur does and what it actually means. Nothing about that word indicates they have to be factual or logical. By definition they just have to get a response out of people listening and watching and keep people engaged.
Kevin Lashlee read the first sentence in your paragraph again, that is literally what I just said. None of these takes made people listen to them more, if anything it had the opposite effect. I broke it down well for you my last post. The end goal is views, calling nate Diaz a sumo wrestler or saying cowboy quit does nothing but make people ignore you.
I grew up a boxing fan and one thing I hate about boxing these days is how fighters protect the 0 on their records. We get boxers fighting tomato cans just to pad their record. It didn't used to be like that and it's really hurt boxing. I watch more and more MMA these days.
“Quitting is built into MMA” lol.. I guess if you consider tapping out before you sustain a potentially career ending injury ‘quitting’ that’s cool bro...
I think he meant that in MMA there are so many ways to win like by sumbission (making your opponent quit) and in boxing you don't have that. Of course you can quite in boxing, and there has been many and great boxers that have quit, like Duran's no mas, quitting on your stool, etc but it's very looked down upon, in comparison to MMA where it's understandable. Max is a very good boxing analyst but i think he just phrased it wrong.
Aaron B shaq is a spoiled man child. He’s definitely entertaining, and I’d love to sit there and talk bout life with him, but on inside the nba he’s so ridiculously stubborn sometimes for no reason whatsoever
When the Bucks won the Finals, he said Milwaukee was a small town, even though it is larger than Miami, Orlando and Portland which he earlier called big cities.
When I see a weigh in photo of Nate Diaz I immediately think "Sumo". Nate eats, drinks and breathes the ancient art of SUMO. Nate is a Sumo wrestler through and through. Rice and Beer is Nates secret diet. He's got to be pushing 400 -425lbs at this stage of his Sumo career.
Also Nates pins are second to none. How many times have we all seen Nates HL reel pins over his helpless opponents? The refs drops down... slaps the ground ... 1, 2, 3 !!!! And just like that another stoppage via pinfall.
SinkHollyWood ahhhh the legendary diaz brothers... known for their renowned sumo techniques and nothing else. These “professionals” seem to really know their stuff eh ? 🤦🏽♂️
joe rogan -" ronda isnt once in a life time, shes once EVER! " to be fair joe rogan should be on this list for his love affair with ronda and all the crazy shit he said about her...he was one of the main reasons her hype got as crazy as it did..
@@Stevo_RU-vid That makes no sense at all. You think without Joe hyping her that her career would have somehow played out differently? Considering she was already the champion, she would have still had to fight Holly Holm... so unless you are implying that the hype is the reason she lost to Holly, your comment doesn't make sense to me.
He did build her up but at the same time he builds a lot of people up and Ronda was the first of the females to be mainstream so I get it. She was just really really really exposed two fights in a row against some of the best strikers in female mma history. She's still a legend
@White Face Maybe you dont understand boxing , idk . I follow both the sports and Mayweather is the Boxing version of Jon jones . Just so technical and smart in the ring . Also , Mayweather is retired . The face of boxing currently is Canelo or Fury/AJ
At the same weight in a boxing match the boxer will win.In a fight though they will lose.What is so hard to understand about that?There will always be exceptions to the rule lile silva vs chavez jr but you get my drift.
@@cono5794 Exactly. Some boxer fans are so intimidated by competition that they curl in a foetal position sucking on a thumb. The "sweet science of boxing"; talk about auto-fellation!!! I always loved martial arts, but boxing was the only thing available on TV for such a long time. I missed UFC #1and #2 when they came out but I watched UFC #3 on PPV back in the days; jaw dropping moment and I've been hooked since. McGregor had the courage and money incentive to fight Mayweather in a boxing ring. Did Mayweather have the balls to meet McGregor in the octagon?
Silva vs Sonnen is number 1, Anderson was very lucky to survive that triangle choke, also the fact that rules weren't properly explained to Chael helped him win
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Aye champ. You really should do more writing. Like the other gentleman in the comments stated. You got a knack for it bro. Human grammerly personified.
Yeah joe was talking out of his ass as normal. I like that stephen A called out that trash performance by cowboy. No need to pretend he fought well at all because he didnt.
@@colinbreland1696 Actually the UFC was saying he had a broken orbital. There was official posts directly after the fight. It came out later from Cowboy that it wasn't true. Cowboys a slow starter and he got caught, pretty simple. Could happen to anyone. You can also say he didn't fight at his best without shitting all over a fan favorite and all around badass and legend. Anyone who practices martial arts will understand that respect is paramount but i wouldn't expect casuals to understand this. Huge respect to anyone who puts there health on the line and fights for a living regardless of there performance. Takes huge balls, especially on T.V in front of millions.
@@theshineyone1111 ya ya ya im a "casual" because he had a shit fight that i wasnt impressed by. Sure hes a legend but that doesnt mean he didnt have a shit fight where he fought like shit and why should we be kind about it because hes a fan favorite ? Fuck it. He made me sit through a holly holm stinkfest for 15 minutes to see him lose in 40 seconds. Thats worthy of bashing him right there. Let alone he stood still and got rocked by 3 shoulder strikes.
I think you don't understand the point he is trying to make, he means that you can win through submission (making the other person quit), which is part of MMA and it's understandable. In comparison to boxing where the only ways one loses is thru Decision, KO, TKO, not coming out of your stool, or stoping mid way thru the fight like Duran. And if one loses like the last two scenarios you're looked down badly.
Listening to the entirety of what Stephen A. Smith actually said in that postfight interview, I agree. It wasn't a good entry to begin with. Tommy heavily misrepresented what SAS said. SAS openly admitted that his impression was that of a comparative layman, but he was unable to look past Cerrone's bad performance. And while some of his speculation is unfair (like that stuff about the pressure of the big-time), he was mostly right. This wasn't some shocker like Jose Aldo getting caught in his title defense against McGregor. Cerrone just fought very poorly. He didn't perform like the accomplished veteran he's supposed to be. Cowboy could and should have done more in the fight itself and especially his preparation going into it.
@@recipoldinasty He tried what he could, did you see the fight? He didn’t try anything lol he did get destroyed tho that’s the only thing you’re right about.
The worst thing is mainstream media only takes note of MMA (UFC tbh) when something controversial happens and when they finally do talk about it they show they know absolutely nothing about MMA
a girl vs maywherther is that some kind of joke ? people who never practice sport dont realyze the HUGE difference between male and female. its like asking a dog to fight a lyon. ridiculous
Cowboy has come out since and said that he "didn't want to be in there" against Conor...so it turns out that Stephen A.'s take wasn't that bad at all. In fact, it was spot on...
I agree with you about submitting. However, it does mean to submit. Submit does mean to give up. Give up does mean to quit. You still gotta choose how you say it or it will come out wrong. Almost like when white commentators talk about the "black muscle twitch". The way He said it was like boxers have more heart. I've seen many a boxer quit. I've seen the corner throw in the towel more in boxing. Doesn't mean anything trying to prove who has less quit because the rules are different. It's always frustrating when people compare checkers to chess. To make it seem as simple as MMA has quit built in with submissions is the same as saying boxing has the Towel. It's clearly more complicated then checkers and chess.
What most sports commentators don’t understand is that in combat sports you need to build up everybody so that people will buy the pay-per-view. If you shit on a Quarterback it doesn’t really matter, because 31 out of 32 people wouldn’t be expected to tune in every game. In MMA you need to make sure that people watch as many fights as possible. Putting down fighters is highly damaging to the sport, and anyone who does so is in the words of Uncle Dana “A fucking sport killer”.
But the thing about it is, if you know Cowboy, we all know that there are two different Cowboys-you’re either gonna get the good one or the bad one. When he’s good, he can beat anybody. When he’s off, he looks REALLY bad. It was just the bad Cowboy that night. And that fuckin idiot Smith was talkin like he knew something the rest of us don’t.
@@dakotablount251 He indirectly threw it by not giving it his all against McGregor, thus giving him an easy comeback fight. He didn't even want to fight him that night and went down at the first sign of adversity.
I find it funny that Joe thought it was hilarious when Stephen A. said those things about Andy Ruiz beating AJ but got offended once he said something about Cowboy
You could make a video like this dedicated to be Joe to be fair. People think he's an expert but he still jumps on hype trains straight away and gets amazed when the same story plays out again and again and the favourite gets beat.. Also, always with the "The (blank)est (blank) of All Time" shit.
“Yarborough was the last fighter to use sumo? You’re going to get crane kicked in the face for saying things like that...” -Joe “welcome to the Machida era” Rogan
Dude these mainstream needs to gtfo commenting on MMA until they learn more about it. Oh my god these are some idiotic comments, specially the one by Skip on the Khabib vs Tony fight. Man are you on coke? lol
There really *haven't* been any "new" boxing stars, and MMA really *is* eclipsing boxing. AND the Mayweather McGregor was garbage. Mayweather didn't fight like "himself" until the 7th round, and if he hadn't taken it so easy on McGregor no one would still be talking about it. It was practically a "fixed" fight. Boxing died *that* night. AND Cowboy is like 60 years old. His bones are brittle from osteoporosis. Watching him get out of his wheelchair to get beat up was NOT an impressive feat.
To be fair, in Max's defense of the Mayweather/McGregor take, we all know that Floyd went easy on Conor for the majority of the fight. If he wanted to go all out, he'd of probably finished him within 2-3 rounds. Anyone with eyes can see that he was coasting to give the fans their money's worth. He never broke a sweat then entire fight.
