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The 1911 Pistol Pros & Cons: Is The 1911 Overrated or Underrated? 

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The advantages and disadvantages of the 1911.
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@GrantOrthmeyer
@GrantOrthmeyer Год назад
“But honestly, if you were born in America and don’t like 1911s, we can’t be friends”…. Best line ever. Thank you, Chris.
@antoniotula262
@antoniotula262 Год назад
He's one of few who admits to enjoying 9mm 1911s. Some have an issue with 9mm 1911s, but love 22lr 1911s...🤔🤔
@henryrodgers1752
@henryrodgers1752 Год назад
Yep… best line and 100% agreement with the sentiment.
@wstavis3135
@wstavis3135 Год назад
I don't like Harleys or most loud muscle cars either. I prefer quality and reliability.
@juanvaldez6321
@juanvaldez6321 Год назад
I wasn't born here but I'm a citizen. And if you don't like the 1911 you're a commie
@binkswhitesocks6737
@binkswhitesocks6737 Год назад
I agree, I love to have in my case.
@user-tv4lz5ie5u
@user-tv4lz5ie5u Год назад
I remember cleaning mine and it had a zen quality to it. It was satisfying to field strip, clean, lube and put it all back together, only to check the slide and dry fire a little to make sure everything was ok. The sound of it was reassuring and it was something that forced you to set some time apart, take your time and focus on one single thing for some minutes, what was calming and almost therapeutic.
@shanghunter7697
@shanghunter7697 10 месяцев назад
Very well said !!
@heinous70
@heinous70 10 месяцев назад
That was well said. But I have the completely opposite point of view. I'd rather have it clean, and done in just a few minutes
@jopro3388
@jopro3388 8 месяцев назад
Try the full disassembly, using only the parts of the gun. That's when I truly appreciated the genius of John Moses Browning. It really is cathartic
@stinkeye460
@stinkeye460 6 месяцев назад
That is also the beauty of cap and ball revolvers and muzzleloaders.
@bulldog7196
@bulldog7196 5 месяцев назад
It's a beautiful thing
@Girth_Brooks01
@Girth_Brooks01 Год назад
This is a timely video. For the ladies its Pumpkin Spice Latte time of the year. For the men, its carry a full size gun time of year.
@EvanHBogle
@EvanHBogle Год назад
You're going to make people who cc in places like Texas or Florida very confused with comment.
@wodenswheelgun3278
@wodenswheelgun3278 Год назад
10mm time!
@J.Young808
@J.Young808 Год назад
And now you can include Hawai’i. Only those who have lived on the mainland though as when I grew up on O’ahu if the temperature dropped below 77°F I wore pants and sweatshirts/jackets, but not anymore. I wear shorts year round. The past few winters Texas & Florida have dropped into the 30’s and Texas has gotten snow, so I think they can carry full-size if this winter follows.
@muchachonextdoor5608
@muchachonextdoor5608 Год назад
HaHa, carried mine this morning for the first time since April.
@deniskozlowski9370
@deniskozlowski9370 Год назад
I think Tisas or Girsan has offered a pumpkin spice model of the 1911.
@zackaryatkins6501
@zackaryatkins6501 Год назад
My grandfather was part of MACV-SOG and always preferred to have his Colt 1911 when everyone around him was using Browning High Powers...When asked why he said the amount of times I saw team members shoot someone even with perfectly placed shots and they would be so doped up they would just keep coming vs the knockdown power he had with the 1911 so he always was very fond of them and I was blessed to inherit his, it will forever be one of my favorite pistols.
@ms.annthrope415
@ms.annthrope415 9 месяцев назад
I had served as an army officer 1983-1986. I learned the 1911 in ROTC in Fort Knox, Kentucky in 1980. I always loved the 1911 and have owned some 10 different pistols in my years from POS AMT Hardballer that would choke on anything, to Sspringfield TRP, to Colt Government, Colt Commander, Colt Officers, to Sig TT, to Les Baer and Ed Brown. It was on my hip when I lived in Los Angeles during the Rodney King riots along with a Remington 870 Wingmaster 12 gauge cut down to 21 inches. It's been behind my pillow for decades serving nightstand duty. Yes, I have a Browning High Power, FN FNX .45, HK VP9, but having a full size 1911 with 230 grains +P JHP is comforting. Nothing calms your nerves when something goes bump in the night with a 1911 in your hand. When I die, I'll have one in my hand.
@dravenocklost4253
@dravenocklost4253 7 месяцев назад
Your grandfather is a real life action hero, Jocko's podcast introduced me to many Macv sog stories. .ake sure you raise your kids and nephews/nieces right so it can stay in the family as an heirloom and reminder to keep your life in only your hands (wordly/earthly wise). ☦️✝️
@lowsensloser
@lowsensloser 4 месяца назад
Cherish it forever ,god bless and thank you for your service grandad
@RegularFlyGuy
@RegularFlyGuy Месяц назад
And also, it looks badass
@heathwasson7811
@heathwasson7811 Год назад
To correct a common misconception... The .45 didn't replace the .38 Special. It replaced the .38 Long Colt and .38 Short Colt revolvers. The .38 Special is a significant step up over either, and especially over the Short Colt.
@Trekpanther
@Trekpanther Год назад
The C& Arsenal video series from the 1900 model to the 1911 puts all of this in an understandable context. Long series of videos but very enlightening.
@heathwasson7811
@heathwasson7811 Год назад
@@benjamin3290 to be fair, historians in general aren't the best at getting details of firearms right, and just don't realize there are a variety of ".38" pistol rounds. There are many "authoritative" print sources spanning a century that refer to the military revolvers as ".38 Specials". This is one completely understandable mistake.
@antoniotula262
@antoniotula262 Год назад
Also, the "every law enforcement agency in the country at one time or another" is iffy at best. The overwhelming handgun of law enforcement issue/use in the U.S was the .38 spl revolver (typically a Smith K frame).
@heathwasson7811
@heathwasson7811 Год назад
@@antoniotula262 Yep. I first qualified for my Texas Peace Officers License with a revolver. Virtually zero departments issued 1911s, maybe none. Wasn't until the late 80s to mid 90s that most departments switched to autos. And those almost universally split between Berettas and the old school 2nd and 3rd gen S&W autos. Mid 90s and on was the GIANT switch to the Glock, and to Sig 226 and 229s to a much lesser extent. To be honest, I can't think of a single LEO department that ever issued the 1911. Every Texas Ranger I knew carried one, but even then, I think a Sig was their issue piece, and the 1911 was just an authorized alternative.
@antoniotula262
@antoniotula262 Год назад
@heathwasson7811 I haven't seen one of those big stainless Smith autos in a long time. LGS had some police trade-ins about 15yrs ago that were beat up good. I could see seatbelt marks from road time, rusted rear sights from guys working parades in summer or foot posts. I should have bought one, really.
@barrsteve7347
@barrsteve7347 Год назад
I spit my beer when you mentioned Peter North. I was like, "Did he just say that?" Yes, I'm an old dude.
@RegularFlyGuy
@RegularFlyGuy Месяц назад
Canadian icon 😂
@SaintKines
@SaintKines Месяц назад
The cake decorator
@davidmarcey7970
@davidmarcey7970 Год назад
Something that I found interesting as a carpenter I read that the grip angle on most cordless drills and screw guns are based on 1911 and I believe it because my Dewalt screw gun and drill feels a lot like my Springfield range officer in my hand
@AEC123
@AEC123 6 месяцев назад
That's interesting!
@Hawk-ODA212
@Hawk-ODA212 2 месяца назад
Now that's an interesting bit of information. I never even thought of it, but it makes sense. Thanks for sharing that.
@ViolenceDominates
@ViolenceDominates Месяц назад
neat.
@LOVES-A1911
@LOVES-A1911 Год назад
John Browning was a genius, the 1911 like many of his designs has stood the test of time. What really got me into the 1911 was hearing my Grandfather who was in the Army in WW II and all over Europe talk about how he carried it everywhere and it never disappointed him and that on the rare occasion when he took German soldiers as prisoners they were intimidated by the bore size of the barrel. Based on my own experience and preference my EDC is a 1911 platform pistol in .45 ACP.
@DK-gy7ll
@DK-gy7ll Год назад
Minor correction, the M1911A1 was officially replaced by the Beretta M9 in 1985. Despite that they remained in use with conventional soldiers as late as 1995.
@MrKitty-zv3dl
@MrKitty-zv3dl Год назад
US Army MP vet here, I got out in 88 and where we still carried the M1911A1 in our Germany and Belgian units.
@ftniceberg874
@ftniceberg874 Год назад
Can confirm...we were still training with, and carrying the 1911 back around 93 when I was topside watch on my old pig; SSN 750 the Nswport News. Hurt my soul when they handed me a Beretta...It's a nice weapon, but the 1911 still has my heart.
@hoppinggnomethe4154
@hoppinggnomethe4154 Год назад
No firearm replacement is instantaneous. Everyone should know that. 👍
@SuicideVan
@SuicideVan Год назад
​@@hoppinggnomethe4154lol right? It's like people think crates of new weapons arrive at the armory and all get swapped out at once. I was at a FOB chow hall in Iraq and it was a massive hub base and between the different services, and units you could see everything from M16A1 to A2 refurbs to guys field testing the XM8.
@Flynn_Stones
@Flynn_Stones Год назад
​@@SuicideVanthe XM8 actually made it to field testing? Dang, went further than I thought
@markbaker9000
@markbaker9000 7 месяцев назад
I have had 1911s since I was 18 (Colt) 45 years ago. I have a Kimber (Original--billet). The newest being a Nighthawk Custom Agent. Love my 1911s
@chrisdjernaes9658
@chrisdjernaes9658 Год назад
Love the history lesson, comparisons, pros and guns and honest outlaw opinion. Your reviews just keep getting better. That last out take was hilarious 😂 Cheers 🍻
@EricDaMAJ
@EricDaMAJ Год назад
Good video. IMO the 1911A1's rep fell a lot in people's estimations for three reasons. 1) The military manufactured ones were almost completely worn out by the early 80s through age, poor maintenance and infrequent spring replacements. They were nearly smooth bore single shot pistols in many cases. 2) Dozens of crummy companies pumped out lousy clones while the good companies pumped out expensive boutique guns the average shooter couldn't afford. The real nail in the coffin were the old Fudds who talked up the 1911 _while disparaging the Glock_ to Millennial and Gen X shooters. That last point is key. Nobody likes to be gaslit and the resentment bled over to the 1911.
@devolve42
@devolve42 Год назад
I remember various "gun celebrities" in the early 90s calling Glocks "combat Tupperware" and insisting that if something wasn't a 1911 it wasn't worth a damn. That said, I like both 1911s and Glocks.
@oleboy7615
@oleboy7615 Год назад
First, the “military” didn’t manufacture any 1911s, or any other weapons, for that matter. I’d like you to name the dozens of companies that manufactures crummy clones, and lastly, your last “key” assumption is as false as Biden with a working brain. Where did you come up with this stuff?
@finesse7943
@finesse7943 Год назад
there are two different mag follower designs that is a source of much of the reliability issue with HP ammo (old and new being like the 1970 design)
@michaelgautreaux3168
@michaelgautreaux3168 Год назад
Well.... This old fudd was in a situation nobody wants to in be & I walk out. Issued .45 worked even for a "Maracha". I encourage everyone find what they like, learn it, train w/ it, maintain it. What ever an individual chooses. I'm Colt particular & like the "GI" too much despite the cons. That's my 1A 😉
@paulwhite9242
@paulwhite9242 Год назад
Didn't some of the first point happen with Berettas too? I had some relatives and have some friends that were military and the few that had issued sidearms really hated their Berettas...but the new ones I've shot were pretty nice
@gregcampwriter
@gregcampwriter Год назад
The 1911 design exists to show innovators how much they have to do to come up with a genuine improvement. And yes, for most situations, a 1911 will be an effective tool for solving problems appropriate for handguns.
@jamestucker7513
@jamestucker7513 Год назад
The trigger and the grip is why I love the 1911. I have now built 6 for myself from the ground up. Building and fitting them is as much fun as shooting them.
@natlovell122
@natlovell122 20 дней назад
That’s amazing! Where do you get parts from for your builds?
@jamestucker7513
@jamestucker7513 19 дней назад
@@natlovell122 I get them different sights. eBay sometimes, atlas, fusion etc
@dennisl4000
@dennisl4000 Год назад
Totally agree! I love the 1911 and feel the positives out weigh the negatives. However, if you’re not into maintaining it, then it’s not for you.
@gabbyhayes1568
@gabbyhayes1568 Год назад
They do like the lube don’t they? lol
@Jaxon1776
@Jaxon1776 Год назад
One minor correction. The 1911 replaced the M1892 revolver chambered in .38 Long Colt, not .38 special.
@antoniotula262
@antoniotula262 Год назад
An important distinction. Some view .38 special as underpowered because of that misconception.
@randyduncan795
@randyduncan795 Год назад
@@antoniotula262 I still view it as underpowered vs the 45ACP. Or even the 9mm+P. But I still appreciate it, especially in a J-frame.
@antoniotula262
@antoniotula262 Год назад
@randyduncan795 Agreed, I would definitely prefer a 1911 in 45ACP or even 9mm than a 38spl revolver. I also appreciate and have a J-frame in 357. Before subcompact 9 was around, a J-frame was pretty much the only choice unless you went the 380 route.
@robgoins3672
@robgoins3672 Год назад
@@randyduncan795have more faith in your 158 gr lead wadcutter good sir😂.
@dantai68
@dantai68 Год назад
I think it's major The 38SC was a 98-125gr projectile moving at subsonic 235m/s producing about the same muzzle energy as a modern 22lr. 38lc was a 125-150gr projectile moving at 245m/s which is barely above a 22mag. Meanwhile, modern 38spl and 9x19mm are pretty similar shooting a 115gr projectile out about 350-500m/s.
@Sig_P229
@Sig_P229 Год назад
Your content has only become more solid over the years. Good stuff.
@Hawk-ODA212
@Hawk-ODA212 2 месяца назад
Excellent video. Probably the most honest perspective I've seen presented on the internet. I've been a devout 1911 guy since 1973 when I was introduced to them in the Army. I was a light weapons and demolition specialist on a Special Forces A Team, so I got to disassemble, assemble, shoot and train others with A LOT of different firearms. Since that time I've shot and owned many different pistol platforms, but my favorite remains the 1911. It fits me best ergonomically and I am most accurate with it. For me the maintenance truly is a labor of love and I'm willing to do it so I can enjoy all of the "Pros" associated with it. And when properly maintained, they are extremely reliable regardless of ammo type. Thanks for the presentation. - Hawk
@ryanweiss1721
@ryanweiss1721 Год назад
Between this channel, Humble Marksmen, and Sage Dynamics... I was itching for a 2011. Two weeks ago I got to rent an Atlas Athena. Within 12 hours, I was placing an order for my own Athena. Chris is a enabler. LOL
@johnhill7585
@johnhill7585 6 месяцев назад
You definitely nailed all the pros and cons of the 1911. Never seen it so well laid out before! You just helped me go ahead and purchase a 1911 over a beretta M9 and a Sig 229. I think the trigger and accuracy of the 1911 wins!
@Ed-ig7fj
@Ed-ig7fj 2 месяца назад
Whilst the two "contenders" are great pistols, in a hundred years, your 1911 will be the one your (great?) grandchildren are grateful for. --Old Guy
@co3g921
@co3g921 Год назад
My Dad taught me how to shoot pistols using a 1911. Since then, I've show striker-fired and DA/SA pistols of almost all brands. When I got into competitive shooting, it was full circle back to 1911/2011. For pure performance, 1911/2011 all day long. If its the Zombie Apocalypse or some other unlikely dystopian scenario, Glock or HK.
@Doylestown-y5g
@Doylestown-y5g 8 месяцев назад
Thoughts on the star 45acp?
@ghostwolf4354
@ghostwolf4354 Год назад
As I was watching this video, my Staccato P was sitting on the couch next to me after being carried all day, and my Colt Commander was safely stored upstairs. Great presentation, as always.
@sherlock1895
@sherlock1895 Год назад
This certainly was a very well done video. My fondness for the 1911 goes back to its use in WWll. My father served in the Army at that time. Again a very informative post. Cheers!
@Mike-ik7dl
@Mike-ik7dl Год назад
Great video I carry a full size 1911 only had revolvers growing up went into the Marines and fell in love with this weapon it just fits hard to miss with keep her clean and she will do the job thanks for the video and all the hard work
@grandpaweber2097
@grandpaweber2097 Год назад
The new versions are head and shoulders above the old GI model, which I carried in the mid '80's. Just got the new PSA Admiral model with the rail. So far, so good. It runs well with Chip McCormick magazines.
@johnshepherd9676
@johnshepherd9676 Год назад
Was the old GI version government issue. If it was it was a 30 years old at best.
@jimpearson7053
@jimpearson7053 Год назад
Thanks Chris, I still carried an Army issue 1911 in Desert Storm. Love it. I own several 1911s to include a Wilson Combat every day carry and several Stryker fire pistols. But I still prefer my 1911s.
@deputygunner
@deputygunner Год назад
1911's are a little to more to maintain and require a little more cleaning and turning, but worth the effort. Been shooting 1911's for forty years, always will be my favorites.
@Chuck5653
@Chuck5653 Год назад
Yup..Been shooting 1911 for 62 years. Got my first experience at 8 years old. Quite a gun for an 8 year old. But my dad had a motto...if you are going to do anything, do it right. I am 70 and STILL shoot 1911 and it is what I carry.
@stevemellgard6393
@stevemellgard6393 Месяц назад
Pro's and cons. From Pancho Villa to Granada and everything in between. One thing I think we can all agree on. Enduring legacy . Great video.
@natjonestower3035
@natjonestower3035 Год назад
I love mine, great shooter, easy to hit a target, big heavy bullets are always fun. And a very interesting piece of history. It's no 23 round race gun, but it can be in no way over-rated. I would argue a glock is more over-rated, people get on their knees for them, even if they have a crappy trigger and a bad grip, not to mention ugly as it gets. By the way, mine is a very basic springfield milspec, cost me about 600 bucks. And in about 1500 rounds it has yet to have a single failure. I do clean mine, but we should all be doing that anyway.
@brandondavis4306
@brandondavis4306 Год назад
i own 2 1911's a desert eagle 1911 ( bull armory made I believe) that has 200 rounds through it and a tisas raider that has about 30 through it ( just bought it a month ago) and I have yet to have any issues with ether of them. I hate the glock it feels terrible in my hand and It looks alot like a hi point. They talk about capacity but it doesn't matter if you don't train and just mag dump ( spray and pray).
@briank.7937
@briank.7937 Год назад
Bought my first 1911, a tisas 4.25 in .45 with the ed brown bobtail cut. Amazing carry gun. Nobody ever told me how thin a 1911 is for carry. I'll be looking into a 2011 soon enough
@lindafoxwood78
@lindafoxwood78 Год назад
Love the video presentation! The first gun I took apart was the 1911 back in 1985 when my LTC left his in my 73 commo van. It was piece of art to me.
@marvinmyers9367
@marvinmyers9367 Год назад
I am in almost total agreement with you where the 1911 and 2011's are concerned. The gun that I have had in my personal armory the longest is a Springfield Armory Champion. Ammo finicky as all hell, but I will never get rid of it. Love my 1911's. But love my CZ's also. Glocks in a gun competition to me are like having a matchbox derby car in an F1 race. Love your channel. Keep doing what you do.
@MJ-om8nw
@MJ-om8nw Год назад
Im a big 1911 junkie! I probably have ten of them! I always have my eye out for another one to add to the collection. Great video! Thanks!
@AnthonyWray
@AnthonyWray 11 месяцев назад
I went from a G19 Gen3 as my EDC to a Springfield 1911 Mil-Spec with the 5" barrel as my EDC and I absolutely love carrying it. I have ALWAYS loved the 1911s ever since I got into guns at a young age.
@zovaynezovanyari5442
@zovaynezovanyari5442 Год назад
I've had four 1911s. I loved them all, including a Colt AND a Taurus. I didn't have trouble with my Taurus. My favorite is a Tisas Carry in stainless. My next new gun will either be a cz, the s&w FPC, or....another 1911. Nice video.
@muskyman1018
@muskyman1018 Год назад
I’m a fan also, have a Taurus, never gave me any issues, except one time it was so cold the action froze shut, I quit using that lube! My Kimber had a few jambs in the first 500 rounds, gtg after that. Would definitely like to step up a tier on the next one.
@bigfuzzy84
@bigfuzzy84 Год назад
I'm with you there. His video on the CZ Shadow 2 compact really has me wanting it for a new carry option.
@sociopathmercenary
@sociopathmercenary Год назад
I love my Bul Armory 1911 Government.
@philvilardi6461
@philvilardi6461 Год назад
I was leary of Tisas. I bought the stingray carry in 9mm. it's a really fine gun and a great shooter. I also have Springfield and Para Ordinance 1911s.
@Lexicologist1971
@Lexicologist1971 Год назад
You should consider an H&K P2000. I have them in 3 calibers. All are sweet.
@trentroberts7608
@trentroberts7608 Год назад
Definitely holds a special place in our hearts. 1911s just feel great in my hands. Great video.
@michaelnault5905
@michaelnault5905 Год назад
I've owned my 1911 for over 30 years. Great informative video. I learned a bit.
@arthurbrumagem3844
@arthurbrumagem3844 Год назад
I have many different pistols both revolvers and auto loaders. I love my wheel guns but the 1911 is my favorite in large part because I carried one in the tunnels of Vietnam. Call it nostalgia but I have a great history with the 1911
@ms.annthrope415
@ms.annthrope415 9 месяцев назад
Respect for a tunnel rat.
@arthurbrumagem3844
@arthurbrumagem3844 9 месяцев назад
@@ms.annthrope415 👍🇺🇸
@allan2595
@allan2595 8 месяцев назад
thanks for your service 🙏🏽 i just turned 21 and have always been in love with m1911s. i’m thinking about picking one up in the near future. with that being said, do you have any recommendations for me, given your experiences?
@themastermason1
@themastermason1 Год назад
To me a 1911 is a 2nd or 3rd purchase gun in this era. It's best bought after a 10+ capacity 9mm home-defense/ccw pistol. It also helps to diversify your ammo pool when you buy .45. I want to eventually build a 1911 that is effectively MEU M45 but in a gray parkerized finish.
@mekaapeclub138
@mekaapeclub138 Год назад
I didn’t it wrong lol bought a 1911 kimber custom ii 10mm love it first hand gun lol now on to M&P 5.7 then thinking 1911 prodigy is next 😁
@TomTheSasquatch
@TomTheSasquatch 11 месяцев назад
9mm is a fruity caliber. No reason for a grown man to own one
@coldsteel.and.courage
@coldsteel.and.courage 11 месяцев назад
I carried a revolver for 15 years then bought a nice sig 1911 for EDC. I love it.
@isustudent514
@isustudent514 11 месяцев назад
I know, right? My girlfriend likes shooting 9mm and I tease her about it asking her if she's a drug dealer. Seems like every 2-bit thug in the movies is rocking a 9. lol @@TomTheSasquatch
@clydedoris5002
@clydedoris5002 5 месяцев назад
Not a bad assessment my first was a 1911 it's too heavy and big to carry and the stock sights are terrible for low light applications
@Dang_Near_Fed_Up
@Dang_Near_Fed_Up Год назад
I was still using a 1911 in 1998 when I returned from European duty with the US Army. And I would have continued to use the 1911 over the M9, had I been given the choice. The M9's we were issued were not any kind of quality (other than poor). Where the 1911's were old and tired, but very dependable and accurate. The M9's were not any of those things, especially accurate and definitely not reliable. I normally shot expert with any firearm I was handed. Usually 1st time, every time (with the exception of when I tried to qualify with multiple broken bones and a concussion). With the M9's I was issued, yes there were several. I could never qualify expert no matter how I tried, nor could any other person using the same junky M9's in my unit. The only M9 to qualify expert in my entire unit was a single officer, who was using his personally owned pistol of the same model. Not the junk we were issued. In fact I took 3 tries to qualify at all with the junk I was issued, due to some form of failure in every attempt. Qualifying at a mere marksman level, after having the M9 fail mechanically to the point armorers had to repair it overnight and allow me to qualify the following day. Where it again failed to finish the qualification course, due to mechanical failure, but after I had managed to hit enough targets to qualify. Imagine taking a pistol into combat that requires an overnight stay in the armorers shop to get it to fire a mere 2 to 3 dozen rounds, before it seized up again. Would you trust your life, and the lives of those depending on you, to a weapon like that? Well that is exactly what we were ordered to do, despite having much more dependable, and more accurate, 1911's sitting in the armory.
@jameshedrick4490
@jameshedrick4490 Год назад
I just turned 24. As a young gun guy I will say the 1911 is the absolute best handgun platform in history. My first gun was a Rock Island Armory 1911 in .45 for which I paid $400. In the years I have owned it it has never jammed or failed even once and I don't even clean it that often. Since than I have owned and shot many 1911s my favorite being my brand new Dan Wesson Razorback in 10mm, the most accurate and powerful pistol I have ever owned, but any 1911 is unbeatable for trigger quality and control and for reliability provided you do the bare minimum to take care of them.
@rangetime6779
@rangetime6779 Год назад
One of your best videos to date! You very accurately explained the 1911 (Wilson Combat rocks). Too many new shooters haven't experienced the wonderful trigger of a custom 1911. Striker fire is Agricultural, 1911 is precision ( similar to AK vs AR).
@zacsmith6736
@zacsmith6736 Год назад
A 1911 variant has been my daily carry for 25 + years. From military to law enforcement to civilian....
@noonespecific9463
@noonespecific9463 Год назад
I would love to own a good 1911, I wouldn’t mind cleaning it, I probably over clean my polymer frame canik, I was raised to keep them clean and lightly oiled. These are the most outstanding reviews on RU-vid!
@sociopathmercenary
@sociopathmercenary Год назад
I can't recommend the Bul Armory 1911 Government more. Feels and shoots like a $1,500 gun for only 850 bucks
@txhuntsman
@txhuntsman Год назад
I like my polymers but nothing quite feels like a 1911 and the trigger.....well it speaks for itself. 1911 will continue to be relevant in some capacity for many decades to come.
@aloe2454
@aloe2454 Год назад
I served in 2012, and happily carried a military issued 1911 as a sidearm. We also used M9s widely, but our command had both, and I landed on the 1911 by random chance, and loved it. But the superior ammo capacity of the M9 is a huge plus.
@gamez4420
@gamez4420 Год назад
I've always thought of the 1911s at great handguns, just outclassed in every specific niche when price point isn't a factor. I'll never knock anyone for using a 1911 for anything that's handgun applicable (depending on the manufacturer), there's just better options out there for each niche. As a general use handgun it's still easily a top 5 to 10 platform depending on your tastes
@jhurley12
@jhurley12 Год назад
So what about the competition niche? Im not a "1911 or die" type person, but in competition land, 1911 platform is 100:1 anything else.
@gamez4420
@gamez4420 Год назад
@@jhurley12 when it comes to competition guns it's a much different argument since a good competition gun is typically a great gun, and at that point its just minor little things that are more preference based. That's if you just go off 1911 patterns because if you bring up things like 9mm 1911 pattern handguns then it's it's argument over "is it actually a 1911" (I know it's a weird tangent but they're fairly common in competitions iirc)
@jhurley12
@jhurley12 Год назад
@@gamez4420 Im not understanding your point of view on how the platform is outclassed in the competition niche, when it totally dominates. The caliber doesnt change the name of the weapon platform. I think you meant to say “when price point IS a factor”, because if it were not, the 3-8k dollar 1911s can be included in the conversation for these niches.
@clydedoris5002
@clydedoris5002 5 месяцев назад
It's completely impractical for carrying too heavy and big unless you have no other option
@BLACKHEAT1028
@BLACKHEAT1028 9 месяцев назад
Dude, that Peter North reference was GOLD, we can be friends. Have not had a good laugh in a while...........and good flash back (58 years old so yeah flashback for me)
@LS1007
@LS1007 Год назад
I have five 1911’s and love them all. My first was a Colt LOM that I installed Wilson parts on and had the Roguard finish applied with NP3 for the internals. Great video!
@mikewithers299
@mikewithers299 Год назад
Outlaw I got to let you in on a little secret. Every time I start up your videos I immediately hit the like button. I've never seen a bad one yet. Keep up the awesome information you provide every time 😊😊
@TomWilson-sy4jo
@TomWilson-sy4jo Год назад
Great review totally agree the 1911 is both over and underrated. One slight correction, I believe the 1911 was designed to replace revolvers that were chambered in .38 Long Colt which proved inefficient in stopping the Moro Rebels in the Philippines(I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong)
@oklahomahank2378
@oklahomahank2378 Год назад
@@desperateneedofscotch. What they found was that .45 ACP didn’t stop Moros all that well, either. Some went back to the .45 colt. In the long run experience showed that an 1897 Winchester pump shotgun with buckshot was the best choice.
@saynotocensorship
@saynotocensorship Год назад
I don’t think it’s overrated. It’s been around too long and has such a great legacy. Even if you aren’t a fan of them, you have to give the weapon the credit it deserves. 🤷‍♂️
@jamese9329
@jamese9329 10 месяцев назад
Modern handguns are an objectively better option, but 1911's are anything but obsolete. If you like your 1911 and you're proficient and comfortable with it, carry that!
@docgillygun9531
@docgillygun9531 Год назад
For me. I have smaller hands and single stack 1911 with only 7-8 rds and more recoil make it a no go for me. I'll stick with my 9mm (it can still blow a lung out of the body). But I will admit the 45acp will blow the heart, both lungs, and the spine out while pushing your target back and out of the fight proven for over 100yrs. I inherited my grandads service Colt 1911 circa 1914 that he carried through Belgium in WWII. And I'm keeping it.
@_Mr.Mayhem_
@_Mr.Mayhem_ Год назад
Sounds like you should check out a 9mm staccato Cs. Hopefully @honest outlaw does the 1k round review of it.
@Xavier_Coogat_the_Mambo_King
Love the hyperbole around calibers. A .45 isn't even 50% more effective than a 9mm. Its not pushing anybody backwards except in shitty action movies. Also just about every company makes 9mm 1911s so talking about caliber preference makes no sense.
@TheDesertSpear
@TheDesertSpear Год назад
.45acp also kills the soul, not just the body
@docgillygun9531
@docgillygun9531 Год назад
I'm talking traditional 1911. And I'm an ICU doc in level I trauma. Bet I know a bit more about it than you. And the reason it was so effective in WWI and WWII is because at very close range it would indeed push them back and knock them down and this actually prevented a lot of people from getting secondary bayonet injuries etc. during hand to hand combat. But I'm sure you already know that. There always has to be that one guy whose asshole is puckered a bit too tight. @@Xavier_Coogat_the_Mambo_King
@carlosmorris4510
@carlosmorris4510 Год назад
So what does a .357 Magnum do then (lol)?
@ttano1117
@ttano1117 9 месяцев назад
A Peter North reference in a gun review. Now I remember why I am a subscriber.
@ChrisHirner
@ChrisHirner Год назад
Springfield Garrison was my first 1911, my eyes were opened. Whether its in 45 or 9 that platform is very nice.
@jackbarlow4104
@jackbarlow4104 10 месяцев назад
Chris! I'm thinking of getting the Garrison as my first 1911, 9mm. Do you still recommend it?
@ChrisHirner
@ChrisHirner 10 месяцев назад
@jackbarlow4104 yeah its a great gun. I enjoy getting it out to.look at almost as much as popping off rounds
@robertgreen-hy3zp
@robertgreen-hy3zp Месяц назад
like your show. Thanks for putting the time and ammo in for the rest of us.. Man who shooting as much as you helps in my decision on purchasing especially seeing long-term reliability.
@unluckycharms9017
@unluckycharms9017 Год назад
I’ve shot a lot of cheap 1911’s and I’ve found Remington R1’s to be insanely good quality in every way compared to any other $1000 and under 1911 on the market.
@theoriginalOSOK
@theoriginalOSOK Год назад
Another minor correction (if it hasn't already been pointed out) - the 45 Colt and 45 S&W were replaced by a Colt 1892 DA revolver chambered in 38 Colt, not 38 Special. The 38 Colt was found to wanting in the Philippians against the Moro so testing was done and the Colt 1911 chambered in 45 ACP was ultimately chosen as the official side arm, heading into WWI. It was basically an update of the old 45 Colt which was never found to be inadequate. Another great vid! Thanks!
@GunsmithSid
@GunsmithSid Год назад
So many ‘facts’ he got wrong. I like his opinions, but this history lesson was awful!
@GunsmithSid
@GunsmithSid Год назад
Add that the upgrade of the 1892 38 Long Colt was the 1909 revolver in 45 caliber, although only 20,000 were bought by the army before the adoption of the 1911.
@poowg2657
@poowg2657 Год назад
I've never had much luck with 1911s being cursed with very small hands. Oddly enough I can just barely get my hands around an S&W 2.0 10mm double stack with a shaved small backstrap. Great video, enjoyed it much!
@noonespecific9463
@noonespecific9463 Год назад
I never considered that, I probably was assuming with the single stack hand size wouldn’t be too much of an issue. I’ve never owned one , always ant to , just never ran up on the right deal. I have a canik tp9 sfx , the small back strap that came with it made it easy enough to grip the same each time and it’s comfortable. I’m old school and it’s hard for me to like a striker, that specific striker has such an amazing trigger I can’t help but like it. It the reason I’ve always wanted a 1911, for the good trigger they are sort of famous for. I will have to consider my hands though, smaller than average I reckon, medium sized gloves fit them best. Your comment was thought inspiring , thank you.
@poowg2657
@poowg2657 Год назад
@@noonespecific9463 You are quite welcome. To shoot a 1911 I have to grip it in my right hand and put my left hand forward and pull the trigger with my left index finger. The grip on the 1911 is just too long front to back.
@The_SmorgMan
@The_SmorgMan Год назад
Huh… I would have thought that being a single stack, it would have been a good fit for smaller hands. Thanks for the insight
@AkeLovesGAMES
@AkeLovesGAMES Год назад
​@@poowg2657Hey man, what you need are some thin G10 grips, a flat MSH, and a shorter trigger. I can almost guarantee that will remedy your issues with the grip size.
@mi_cheap_guns2925
@mi_cheap_guns2925 Год назад
@@AkeLovesGAMESMy thoughts exactly! I’d start with some thin grips, bushings and screws. May be an easy fix for a 100 bucks or less. Good advice!
@jerrysadventures4913
@jerrysadventures4913 Год назад
Carried my Rock Island double stack in .45 for years love it still today
@joewright2304
@joewright2304 Год назад
Cleaning and maintaining a 1911 isn't a big issue . Even the weight of the guns is mute as it really depends more on the type of holster and belt you choose. While it's true that it's a weapon best suited in the hands of a dedicated gun crank that in itself is an important factor. Not just anyone can pick one up and use it.
@StarDriver1
@StarDriver1 Год назад
And the right oil makes a big difference. I run zMax Gun Oil with no problems whatsoever. I use it on all my 1911s and Staccatos with no failures. I see too many people buy, say a Kimber, grab a box of ammo and go to the range, then they complain it won't cycle. Well, the problem is you didn't clean the grease off of it from the factory. Had people read the manual and cleaned and lubed as instructed, the gun would have worked properly.
@BillHimmel
@BillHimmel 4 месяца назад
Concise, concrete information, presented in a easy-to-follow way! Thx! ❤
@jeffmatlowwildcattattoo523
@jeffmatlowwildcattattoo523 Год назад
A 1960 production,Colt LW Commander is in my carry rotation, set up with good sights,good magazines and a couple other "enhancements" it's just as capable as anything else, hell I've got a govt model made in 1914 that'll do the job too( yeah the sights suck, but the trigger is awesome,as is the reliability) Thank you John Browning!
@flyhigh5450
@flyhigh5450 Год назад
nice vid, currently shopping for my first 1911
@StacyBaldwin-qv5cj
@StacyBaldwin-qv5cj Год назад
The 1911 is the only handgun credited with shooting down a fighter. Until another handgun can claim that, it is in second place.
@jeremybstudentpilot5315
@jeremybstudentpilot5315 Месяц назад
Source?
@StacyBaldwin-qv5cj
@StacyBaldwin-qv5cj Месяц назад
@@jeremybstudentpilot5315 I first heard about it from the fat electrician. However the man's name was Owen J. Baggett He has his own Wikipedia page, and you can just Google his name and read several results about him. So until someone shoots down a fighter with any other pistol, the 1911 is number one. Peace out.
@jeremybstudentpilot5315
@jeremybstudentpilot5315 Месяц назад
@@StacyBaldwin-qv5cj great story. I just read it. Thank you.
@trooper2121
@trooper2121 Год назад
After all these years I still carry and love my 1911. As you said the best trigger on the market
@JohnQDoe-ut3jj
@JohnQDoe-ut3jj Год назад
The 1911 is definitely NOT overrated and anyone who says it is, is nuttier than a squirrel turd in a pistachio factory. I own four 1911s and carried one while in uniform. It certainly takes practice to master, but in end, it will provide a very hole in any target put before it. It will be here long after the polymer guns have faded into twilight. John Browning got it right.
@OneStripeRyan
@OneStripeRyan Месяц назад
100%, as a bigger guy the weight of a 1911 doesn’t faze me I can shoot more accurately with it stock than my Glock 17 where nothing on it is original and the trigger pull is lighter. It’s the perfect pistol platform that has withstood time and can be improved upon but isn’t necessary to do so because it just absolutely without a doubt works!
@anthonyromo5954
@anthonyromo5954 9 месяцев назад
Not sure what’s better. The video or the shooting in the videos. Gotta step my game up for sure.
@anangryranger
@anangryranger Год назад
Thanks for a genuine video. You did well in coverage of the 1911. 👍 In my safe, you'll find well over a dozen single action and double action revolvers. There are only two autoloaders in there with them. Both 1911A1 in 45 Auto. NO plastic pistols. They're not allowed inside the house. The 1911A1 was my sidearm in Vietnam for three tours. That's 3 years for the younger crowd. And I engaged the enemy in several instances, winning everytime. So it's a no-brainer for me to own, carry, and use the 1911. Its simply the best autoloader pistol around. End of story.
@MajorGrandpa
@MajorGrandpa Год назад
I can see that a few folks have mentioned when the military switched out the 1911 to the Beretta -- however, as you correctly said, some of us were able to continue to carrying the 1911 through the rest of the 80s (1976-99). Eventually, I was assigned to a unit just before Desert Storm that would not let me carry my prefered 1911. I've owned several 1911s and the best for me -- so far -- is the Bul Armory Commander 9mm ($989). I've run roughly 5000 rounds through it and have only had issues with it when running REMAN, steel, and aluminum casing ammo. My Bul has a VERY Light trigger (2.5-3lbs out of the box). My RIA 1911 (slightly less price than you mentioned) runs any and everything -- but the sites suck on mine -- requiring reliance on Kentucky windage sight alignment. You are right about the Girsan recommendation. I have a Girsan Officer modeal (3.5") and it was decent out of the box --- but a bit too heavy on the trigger and the grip safety needed adjustement. I did a little trigger job and tuned the sear spring. It now has 4 lb trigger pull. I do have to say that I owned a Kimber Micro 9 --- and it sucked on a major scale ... It would not fire a full mag without 2-3 rounds screwing up -- failure to feed, failure to extract . . . I had a RAI .380 Baby Rock with the absolute worse and heaviest trigger pull I -- or anyone else -- has ever experienced as well as a grip safety that (out of the box). I do have the P226 SAO Legion -- but I'm not overwhelmed by it beyond the the double stack capacity.
@damondiehl5637
@damondiehl5637 Год назад
I stopped by a local gun store last December and they had a BUL Commander. I dry-fired it and that was it. I drove to the nearest branch of my bank and pulled out cash and drive right back to the gun store.
@MajorGrandpa
@MajorGrandpa Год назад
I don't think you will regret it. It's the best standard 1911 I've owned and fired. Every shooter at the range I'm at twice a week loves it and offers to buy it. @@damondiehl5637
@chadp1746
@chadp1746 Год назад
I have several 1911's in 45acp and 9mm, and with 4" and 5" barrels. I love all of them. Super accurate. Very low recoil. I haven't had any reliability issues with the pistols themselves. Besides the whole single stack issue, my only big complaint is the only hollow points that will consistently feed for me is Gold Dots. Every other hollow point I've tried just slams into that really steep feed ramp and jams. I like carrying my 4" 1911's, but for reliability sake they are all loaded with ball ammo.
@jhurley12
@jhurley12 Год назад
Have you tried Federal HydraShoks or Underwood? Ive shot countless of them in 1911s and have never had a malfunction. But Ill say, not all magazines and feed ramps are created equal.
@8bitboss929
@8bitboss929 6 месяцев назад
Wow, you pulled out a Peter North reference that’s amazing😂
@rayparker9163
@rayparker9163 Год назад
I love mine. Over or under doesn’t matter. When something went bump in the night I grabbed my 45 and felt well prepared. Thankfully never had to drop the hammer but still an amazing pistol.
@PeteVA-212
@PeteVA-212 10 месяцев назад
As a Naval Aviator deployed on a carrier in 1975 we needed to qual with the 1911. The Marine Detachment Gunny issued us standard 1911s and at the fantail of the boat told us to hit the water. We did! Now I have my S&W E Series 1911 for the range. Great Gun!
@dallenhumpherys7911
@dallenhumpherys7911 Год назад
Another thing to consider is price. You can get cheaper 1911’s, but a lot of them are fairly expensive at least. And 2011’s, the superior version, are outrageously expensive.
@nursinghomemaintence9927
@nursinghomemaintence9927 Год назад
I bought my RIA 10mm 2011 for $649, never had a jam, love that gun.
@Butch33
@Butch33 6 месяцев назад
Hey Chris, that WC just makes me drool. I'm not sure why, but I just love 1911. I've been trying for years just to feel one up. Maybe one day. Enjoy yours. Thanks for the video.
@Hollywood_Howard
@Hollywood_Howard Год назад
In my own opinion, I believe that it is heavily underrated, and under appreciated. The 1911 is a prime example of it is not broke, don’t fix it. The only thing now is that in order to keep up with the current times, they have had to adapt and evolve into the modern market.
@parasuper1
@parasuper1 Год назад
I started shooting the 1911 in the 1970'and when I moved to Alaska in 1984 I was competing with it in USPSA I carried it everywhere I went including backpacking it was my go-to gun for everything I was single and could shoot a lot so I was practicing a lot and could do a El Presidency with pepper poppers turn around so they would not fall in 4.7 seconds with loads that were 180 power factor never felt like I was in danger when backpacking in one trip I saw 5 black bears, so I think it is probably the best handgun you can carrier. I can tell from your videos that you have very good technec
@permanenceaesthetic6545
@permanenceaesthetic6545 Год назад
Great comment!
@ruvinwolf
@ruvinwolf Год назад
I think it was you who said this, and I quote it frequently to my friends: the 1911 is a lifestyle gun. You buy one because you want one, not because it's the best thing on the market.
@anonymousAJ
@anonymousAJ Год назад
It's a sports car, not a minivan
@ruvinwolf
@ruvinwolf Год назад
@@anonymousAJ I think it’d be more like: it’s 67 Chevy Impala, not a 2024 Toyota Camry. No one drives a Camry to show off unless they did some serious work to it.
@clydedoris5002
@clydedoris5002 5 месяцев назад
It's my only one I wouldn't conceive of using it as everyday carry but it's what I wanted
@madgxsrx8436
@madgxsrx8436 Год назад
I love both of my 1911`s .. I have a Colt Gold Cup Trophy and A R1 Remington .. Never had an issue with either pistol .. Great show by the Way !!
@mdubb4855
@mdubb4855 Год назад
Definitely a deadly weapon even if unloaded. I wouldn't even want to drop it on my foot. Love 2.5 pounds of "lightness".
@Trump145
@Trump145 2 месяца назад
Awesome video my friend but the 1911 will always be my number one because it is the first handgun I fell in love with back in the seventies when I was watching Starsky and Hutch.
@Uncommonsenses
@Uncommonsenses Год назад
The 1911 has been around so long even the cliches people use to talk about them are old enough to be on Medicare.
@stuartrollings602
@stuartrollings602 Год назад
Love the closing “we can’t be friends”!
@robviousobviously5757
@robviousobviously5757 Год назад
I grew up on 1911's & BHP... and S&W Wheel guns... the 1911 is wonderful... and early Para-ordnance double stacks were also grand... love my P16-40 and for the record.. my Taurus is wonderful...
@jesschristensen7429
@jesschristensen7429 Год назад
Nice and to the point rundown of the 1911 concept. Keep it up.
@enriquepena7604
@enriquepena7604 Год назад
In a galaxy far far away the the 1911 was almost the sidearm of the Jedi. It lost to the longer lasting crystals of the light saber.🤓
@coyote520
@coyote520 Год назад
LMFAO
@randyinscoe5780
@randyinscoe5780 4 месяца назад
I'm in my 60's, the "we can't be friends " line is how I've felt since you were a child, wish I had thought of it, first time seeing you, now I have to subscribe!!😂😂😂😂
@robertjensen1438
@robertjensen1438 Год назад
What does a taxidermist do for fun? Stuff.
@Brian--0311
@Brian--0311 Год назад
A vegan and a vegetarian are standing on a cliff. They decide to jump off to see who makes it to the bottom first. Who wins? Society!
@dirkderolf4021
@dirkderolf4021 Год назад
I got the reference. Yes, I am that old. I have owned 1911s since I was 19. Back then, you bought a stock Colt and got to work. I have tried lots of newer designs. And I must say that 1911s in 9mm, my preferred caliber, haven’t always been as wonderful as they now are. Hard to beat a 1911 in 9mm from a good maker these days. We are spoiled, perhaps, by a wealth of accurate, reliable handguns in this era. But I can hit predictably with a good 1911. And l’m not alone.
@MrKitty-zv3dl
@MrKitty-zv3dl Год назад
The 1911 is like that refined pretty lady that takes acting like a gentleman, roses, dinners and plenty of our attention to score a home run. The Glock is like that loose biker girl, with a six pack, AC DC blasting and a bag of pork rinds you're knocking it out of the park. Both will do depending on your level of commitment I guess.
@seanwattles9264
@seanwattles9264 Год назад
Love my Rock Island, changed out some springs and put the rounded mainspring housing on and can't be happier. Plus I enjoy maintaining my weapons. I love the smell of solvent and gun oil. When my friends and family come over and they catch a whiff of Hoppes they know I am a happy boy :D I will admit though I wish I had one that I could air rack like your buddy.
@thatguyoverthere2288
@thatguyoverthere2288 Год назад
Can you overrate 2 world wars?...
@moloono1
@moloono1 Год назад
Back-to-back champs!
@wollekemper8317
@wollekemper8317 Год назад
Can you ignore he civil war? Is the Springfield muzzleloader still relevant ? Not a clever argument.
@totljag1
@totljag1 Год назад
2 world Wars !
@Steven-sf2cd
@Steven-sf2cd 3 месяца назад
Excellent reviews. Straight up information.
@mattjensen73
@mattjensen73 Год назад
I inherited my grandfathers .38 Super Colt Commander some years ago and i love shooting it at the range. Just how smooth it operates shows the level of craftsmanship that went into these pistols as a tried and true design
@mi_cheap_guns2925
@mi_cheap_guns2925 Год назад
I’m one of those weirdos who loves both the polymer 9’s, as well as a variety of 1911’s. The high capacity plastic fantastics are ultimately more practical, but there’s just something special about when you pick up a 1911 and send some big 45 rounds down range!
@EverettDiego
@EverettDiego 6 месяцев назад
My Man!!! (As a 45ACP & 357Mag Fanboy) I deeply appreciate your unbiased, fact based observations. You're not selling anything. Please keep em' coming. btw,.... I have a few 9's too.
@jeffkennedy5344
@jeffkennedy5344 11 месяцев назад
I’ve been a Glock 19 guy for 9 years. Mainly because apart from the M9, it was the only sidearm I ever had any training on. Also, when I was in lumber sales, I kept the pistol in my desk constantly. We had a fire and the whole building was destroyed. Next morning, I went into the store and pulled my Glock 19 out of the ashes that were left of that desk, took it home, charged it, and fired the magazine’s worth of ammo that was still in it without a failure. Yet my heart desired to know the 1911 and about 6 months ago, I bought a Springfield Mil Spec 45 ACP. The mag capacity (less than half the bang bangs) and frankly the cost of rounds (less bang bangs to practice with) makes me say I’ll always prefer my Glock as a platform that’ll give me the best probability of survival in an EDC situation and therefore will be my preferred carry. BUT, I’ve shot over a thousand rounds through my Springfield in the 6 months or so I’ve owned it and there’s no comparison in the experience of shooting the 1911. It just feels Murica af. I even enjoy cleaning it. You described it as a labor of love, and that’s the best I’ve heard it described. Even disassembled on your kitchen table, the gun just screams freedom. So if you’re someone like I was seduced by the practicality and logic of polymer pistols, let yourself live a little and get a Rock Island or a Springfield. Small price to pay for what will become your favorite gun to shoot and put back in the safe or glovebox.
@Sig_Steve
@Sig_Steve Месяц назад
Great info on this video 👏 👏. Unfortunately no mention of the Ruger SR1911, which is a great affordable and traditional 1911.
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