Right! Because as a Ford fanboy those Tesla fanboys are Hell! I don't know who's worse, Tesla fanboys, Apple Fanboys or Samsungs? Seriously they are some of the most vicious.
@@twany442 It's a result of media putting false stories trying to destroy Tesla especially in the early days. Ultimately I think that galvanized the fan base. Bill Gates and Warren Buffet tried for years to bring Tesla down with short selling plays in the stock market, Bill having indirect ownership of MS NBC.
@@steveseeger No thhe media isn't in trying to destroy Tesla. The fan boys are doing it on their own. They are vicious with high elements of smugness and they are intolerable. I can't even enjoy something Ford has done even if it doesn't consist of an EV and yet the Tesla's Fanboys are still on spewing hate. So no you're absolutely wrong.
One important thing Doug failed to mention is that the Mustang Mach-E currently qualifies for the $7,500 federal tax credit where the Tesla vehicles don’t. Technically the Mach-E GT costs much less than the model Y.
This is a pretty big omission. He actually says the Mach-E is slightly cheaper than the Y when driving the car but I think he accidentally misspoke (correctly) around the 15:00 mark. With the tax credit, this car should get an extra pt in that Doug Score
Good point. Although if the tax credit bill passes that all changes anyway (and prices are changing all the time too), so in a few months who knows.... And you can't even get a Model Y Long Range until well into next year anyway so it's almost impossible to really forecast.
Ya well How much does it cost to replace a Battery? And Why does our government think they can Build electric Cars and demand them. When they can't even Get 1 chip.. and that cripples the entire auto industry for almost 2 years now
My friend recently let me drive his new Mach-E. Never mind all the other quirks and features, my absolute favourite is the fact that you can program it to emit a V8 rumble under acceleration. It's hilariously useless, but I wouldn't turn it off.
When i picked up a a set of 1yo winter tires the owner just recently bought a standard Mach 1. I got the opportunity to have a seat. Inside it's the typical American interior with the huge display in the middle and a rather surprisingly tiny instrument screen in front of the driver. The door "handle" even though odd looking is actually very practical. I also thought it would be much bigger which really surprised me. 😮
Doug: "I won't talk about the normal quirks because I already reviewed a Mach-e, only the GT specific ones" Also Doug: spends five minutes talking about those goddamned door handles again.
@@agnez1739 ayyyy @youtube can you please do something about all these god damned spam porn comments? Or at least let it link to some real porn, all it is is computer viruses lol
@@user-xw4vg1vy5e Well, the RS is plastered with badges and the GT only has what.. 4 of them? I guess he's saying he expected more indication that he's driving the performance model. Maybe a rear wing, side scoops, hood scoops, etc. Same with the Teslas. It's hard for the untrained eye to tell when a performance version is rolling by.
Please someone get Doug in a Rivian. I really want to hear his honest opinions on it and I'm sad that such a huge number of other RU-vidrs who don't normally do cars got the chance before him.
problem with the rivian is that its going to be a fucking hundred grand before you get it HALF decently equipped... regardless of EV rebates its impractically expensive... its flat out cheaper to eat the cost of 22mpg in my 2020 ram with a hemi than pay the extra cost for the EV but cheaper fuel (electric per mile vs gas per mile) and thats not even taking into account the STUPIDDDDD parts of owning an EV like the fact the charge will be drastically shorter in winter and you have to plan long distance vacations around charging spots
@@HarryMollyNut yeah right ...people with half his channel and no staff make 800k-2 million a month just from adsense and at least double that from sponsorships ....youtube is a huge cash cow don't be fooled ....and his channel can get much bigger than it already is
For anyone who doesn't understand why handling matters more that tenths of a second in acceleration I challenge you to take a test ride in a 160-ish hp Miata.
Eh... People who don't understand why handling matters, quite frankly, aren't car enthusiasts and they don't care about cars. They want a status symbol, another way to boast about the silly numbers game the car world has become. "My car does 0-60 in XX seconds, my car does the quarter mile in XX seconds, and my car fits my massive cock too!" And of course, they never EVER enjoy the car's handling capabilities or characteristics, they drive it from point A to B and that's it. If they drive a miata, they're gonna complain that it's too small, too slow, and/or not worth the price. They don't care, they just want to use them as transportation with the added bonus of fashion or flaunting wealth.
@@njoythedrive For sure, that’s honestly what I dislike about muscle cars here in the US. Realistically, they’re mostly driven by people who know nothing about cars in general. They just know they like Mustangs or Chargers because it has a big v8 and that alone equals performance. A Challenger Hellcat or Raptor in the hands of a normal person isn’t a performance car any more than a Camry or base model RAM is, yet that’s mostly who’s buying them, in my area at least.
@@njoythedrive you have to take into consideration that not everyone wants good handling because some people live in areas where they don’t have good driving roads. Some people just want straight line acceleration because they’ll use that more than good handling.
Can you blame them though? You have to understand what type of people will be buyng theese cars and what people would buy an actual mustang. Just imagine a random girl with a kid coming up to you while you are getting out of a 2015 mustang sayng "hey, i have a mustang too!" And showing you this thing. Its infuriating because it doesnt actually represent what a mustang has always been known as, and while the car itself might not be bad, it's still not what the badge claims. Any other name could have made this a really well recieved SUV from the car community and they went ahead and did this as a marketing trick, wich car people logically took as an insult to the legacy of the mustang.
@@Ferrari255GTO"it doesnt actually represent what a mustang has always been known as" - who decides again what a Mustang is and what not? "it's still not what the badge claims" - who decides again what a Mustang is and what not? right. Ford does and not haters like you😊 "its not a real mustang 😡😢🥺" LIKE JUST STFU. Its a Mustang. PERIODT. FACTS dont CARE aboy ya FEELINGS :)
16:12 YESSSSS THANK YOU DOUG I’ve been a car enthusiast since middle school and hate hearing people say that one car is better than another only because it’s quicker at 0-60.
@@TESLAenjoyer But... It's not. As Doug mentions, the Mach E GT is a better driving car, even if not as quick. It is more familiar to people leaving conventional ICE sports cars behind, and it has arguably much better looks.
Yeah, and even then, numbers aren't everything. I can have fun in both my WRX STI and my Geo Metro. They're completely different cars and I have entirely different kinds of fun in them, but I still enjoy both of them in their own ways. (My Metro can out-stop most vehicles and it's on really old 145-width tires, so it amazes me each time that it does.)
He forgot to mention body panel fitment, while I'm no fan of Ford, I do have to say I'm sure the panel gaps are even while those tesla gaps are... we'll call them "getting better."
He also forgot to mention the most important aspect of electric cars. Charging. Tesla is so far ahead of everyone in charging station it’s a joke. Doug travels far distances and doesn’t even mention this, must not have experienced the tragedy of charging a Mach E on a road trip.
@@robob221 Depends on the country. Here in Germany there are less Tesla Charging Station than the ones that work for all other electric cars. So the infrastucture regarding charging stations is coming along very well here in Germany & Tesla doesn't have the best charging network anymore. The Argument regarding Charging Stations seems to be mostly coming from the US and especially the UK where finding a Tesla Charging Station seems to be very easy while not so much for other electric cars. But it definitely is not the case here in Germany. Which is probably also why i keep seeing more and more Audi, Mercedes, VW, Opel, BMW electric cars week by week, but of course also a lot of Teslas, but they definitely aren't the "most common electric car" you see here in Germany
@@robob221 I experienced the Mach E charging "tragedy" at least 5 times this summer on extended road trips and I am alive to talk about it. Spoiler alert - it was flawless other than having to find a slightly altered route through West Virginia. Charging isn't that different from a Tesla. -Especially for as infrequent most people need to charge away from home. If you live in an apartment, different story. Buy a Tesla (still depends on where you live though - my area has more non-Tesla super charging locations that Super Chargers). If you are able to install a Lvl 2 charger at home, charging should be similar and I advise people to consider other pro/cons first. Might be odd that Doug didnt mention it but also refreshing because it's not as big of a factor as Tesla owners want everyone to believe. PS - I don't hate Tesla (wanted one until the competition started catching up) but the cult is boring.
They should have just called it the Mach E, and Mach E GT. That way when the inevitable electric ACTUAL Mustang happens, it can be the Mustang Mach E Way to go Ford. Cant wait to see you butcher the E Mustang name given you already used the best possible one for it.
I said the same thing about the Mitsubishi Eclipse. Cars are dying man, but some cool cars are coming about at the same time. But yeah the ever changing car market is kinda worrying at times. Kinda like how the new Porsche is a Taycon Turbo S. But it's electric. No turbo in sight.
Didn't he say he prefers minimal badging for performance versions ? I swear to god he used to praise old performance cars for their subtle badging..but now its a con ? 😜
@@Chrisb8s LOL! Yeah! Or a tail pipe speaker programmed to sound any way you want at any speed-cuz i really don't like the idea of silent vehicles at *ANY* speed... Mine would sound like a Tie Fighter....AAAARRRHHHHHWWWHH!
I am a car guy and I own a model three performance. I had several performance gas cars prior to this one. Your review was 100% honest, and the overwhelming majority of Tesla owners are pretentious Elon worshipers that are not car people. I would love a gauge cluster in my car. I think Tesla makes the absolute best daily driving car, but for a fun weekend car no thanks
That is likely to change within 2 months though. Depending on how the new rules regarding made in the USA turn out, the (made in Mexico) Mach-E might even end up with lower incentives than the Tesla.
The GT may not be eligible for US tax credits if the proposed Congressional changes take place in 2022: they include a potential cap of $55k MSRP (or even less; some have suggested $40k) for tax credits. And as of now, it's $7500 credit, not $10k credit, anyway.
The other thing that has been noticed at some Ford Dealerships is that they added 20k over MSRP I can only imagine they are trying to put customers off or trying to make money due to lack of maintenance being needed.
@@prashantkompella5372 only a few states offer rebates, and some of those are pretty restrictive... Massachusetts is now capped at $40k or $50k MSRP...
Best and most honest review........I drove both and thought the same thing.......accelerating from driving speeds was better to me with the Mach E GT but both cars were great......after the shock of this being Mustang .....as a person who owned a 1969 428 Cobra Jet.......it did not disappoint because honestly it accelerated much better than that car. Most "spot" races happen from 40 to 50 mph on and instant torque is one hell of a thing......miss that grunt and noise of my Cobra Jet.....440 Coronet......454 Chevelle.....and 455 GS......but that Mustang and Tesla would blow their doors off.....quietly....LOL
That temp peg on the back door is also to keep you from accidentally smashing your fingers in the door since they are asking you to reach in to open it.
They really should have named this to the Thunderbird line, or maybe even bring back the Torino line, since those were more luxury/family oriented, also having the electric ford lightning with the electric ford thunderbird just makes sense
Its really simple , it has nothing to do with car people. MUSTANG is the only brand name known worldwide that they could use to draw attention. They are doing same thing with BRONCO brand, spinning it off as a sub brand that means cool off road vehicles.
@@Vinrx7 I'm kind of considering one. I told my girlfriend I would be referring to it as a Mach E. And that the word Mustanf wouldn't be used at all to describe the car. She agreed. Although, I could probably live with the top level non GT. I just can't see spending $20k for a .5 in 0-60. I'd rather have the extra range.
@@steveawesome9538 I'm also considering this (Mach E). I'm debating on if I want to spend the extra money on the GT. I would want to get it before the end of the year so I dont miss out on the federal rebate. The rebate amount might go down or be completely gone by 2022 so I would need to find a dealership with these in stock. Turns out there is one by my house that has the GT. Not sure if they allow test drives but I'll have to make a decision quick.
@@Vinrx7 go find a dealership that has one. Ask them to hold it, find your way to the dealership. If you like it, buy it and drive it home. By the time you get home you'll be an expert on how to charge it. Road trip! Might be a lot of fun knowing you'll have to stop and take a break every few hours to charge the car and maybe look around at stuff.
@@DrewHolli are you sure about that? From my experience most apple users mind their own business. Most of toxic comments come from Android users, who can’t fathom someone preferring an iPhone, at least on twitter.
Actually that’s exactly why. Think about it they want you off your phone so they give you a screen that helps you stay off your phone it’s better to look at a car screen then a phone screen.
Who thinks in like a year or two, they should release a full “wagon” version. Square off that back end. I’d be way way more interested as a full SUV/Crossover wagon.
This so called mustang nor what you are explaining should be called a mustang. However they are both pretty awesome ideas....Don't understand why they felt the need to call it the mustang, obviously people are interested in fast electric cars with cargo space regardless if it has a familiar name it's not the freakin 50s guys there's this thing called the internet.
@@alansmith2693 Yea for a quick fix....i.e. things people can afford to impulse buy or news. Most folks can't afford to impulse buy a car but I guess now a days plenty do regardless. I would think it will repel the majority of their mustang fan base to include the target market that they once went for. I would say cars like the Camaro are going to get a bit of a bump in sales thanks to this move. To me it doesn't make since, I'm a purest when it comes to cars, and many of the mustang target market for the last 56 years are as well. I.e. the manual transmission crowd. Like I said cool idea as far as the car itself is concerned, horrible marketing idea and really not needed. There is a huge market for EVs already, no need to be controversial about it. Just my opinion. I know for me if I want a mustang ill just buy any generation but this one and if I want an EV this new "mustang" won't be in the running thanks to this ridiculous marketing technique. Call me petty if you want but I'll throw money at a tesla before this thing just out of spite and I'm a Ford fan boy. I have owned and enjoyed 2 F-250s, 1 expedition, 1 focus, 1 F-150 and 2 mustangs. Guess I'm not there target market anymore just like many former mustang owners.
Model Y and MachE are range tested on different epa testing cycles (2 v 5 cycle). So use wltp to determine who has better range. 480 for Model Y Performance, 500 for MachE GT (km)
@@mardochejulien9840 I remember consoles use to kisy be teenage boys arguing in middle school. And phones? Well... actually I can imagine that. But is there really a community to phones? Like it's hard to imagine a phone "enthusiast"
Not a fan of the wheels. I guess I’d pony up for the performance package for the far more attractive wheels, even sharper handling, and same acceleration as the model y performance. I suspect it will be the Doug score champion in this segment
@@royb5014 I could care less about the badging and the wheels are just nit picking. I was referring to Doug’s dislike of the wheels and I rather agree. I’ll leave snarky comments to mustang fans who find it a sacrilege to label a small electric suv with a mustang gt badge.
He's right. I used to own a Prius before a Tesla. I've always been attracted to high-tech, futuristic cars. And for a time the Prius was the highest-tech car you could get.
So true and everything Doug said is correct. I love my M3, but the service and other experience is just the worst in the industry and I will switch to another EV as the competitors catch up.
You forgot one MAJOR plus for the Mach-E, you can get it serviced without having to travel out of town to do it. I think that's a big selling point here because one of the main reasons I havent bought a Tesla is the closest "dealership" or service center is 3 hours away from me.
@@DoughnutsInspace I agree and I don't blame Tesla for the lack of infrastructure. Regardless of who is at fault though, it's still an issue. As far as sending techs to you, well I haven't heard great things about that process either. I'm not opposed to Tesla, I am a fan of Elon and of the tech that Tesla provides, I just think they come up short in this department.
@@xraycat82 Yes they do but the whole program doesn't exactly have great reviews from those who have had to use it. People like simplicity and for reasons (some out of Elon's control) this process is not simple. That's all I was trying to say. People are already nervous enough of about the switch to electric.
Doug, I'm a big fan of you, EVs, Mustangs, but I don't wanna call this a Mustang. If Ford just made the Mustang an electric fastback, it would've been great
yeah it completely undersells the mustang concept as a whole. Big mistake by Ford to ruin its legendary product, by turning it into a big boat SUV. Tskk tssk
One thing Doug doesn't mention is the recharging network. More specifically, Ford doesn't own or control any public chargers, and as MKBHD demonstrated, in some cases, Ford (and other makers) will show public chargers that simply don't work upon arrival, which can be much more disturbing than longer than average wait times for scheduling non-urgent maintenance. On the contrary, Telsa owns, operates and monitors its own Supercharger network, and simply put, when you arrive at a Supercharger, you can feel confident that the chargers will work. To me, this is a big advantage in favor of Tesla. Yes, most people don't often travel long distances, but I'm willing to bet that this advantage is why so many people choose the Y in favor of this car.
the car looks great, it seems like a great car to drive, I'm happy that Ford are now making electric options and that they're good but I still can't get over the fact that they decided to call the car a mustang and gave it the mustang badge.
I’m too young to be doughy-eyed over the original, so I really don’t mind this electric version. It looks better than most non-combustion-engines cars so I’ll probably cop one at four years old.
Yup that's how most younger and modern consumers feel, which is why this is selling so well. I only see the older folks and "gearheads" upset about the name mostly, who don't make up nearly the majority of people this is actually marketed to and who are buying.
@@Stressless2023 Oh I’m anti-crossover to the core. But like all trends, it’ll be over one day. This seems to be one of the most interesting Fords from the past two decades though, surely? This thing makes no pretence of any off-road ability (check the ground clearance) and could be mentioned in the same breath as a CLS or an A7 with regard to the price. Give me the above as an offset and a Bimmer from the 90s and I’m a happy man. In the UK, they start from £43k for the entry-level model. You can’t spec any options, either.
As always, a great video. I might just add on the pros/cons for Mustang v. Tesla, Ford is a car company making electric cars. Tesla is a technology company making electric cars. I think we have to acknowledge that Mustang is going to be better built, and as Doug indicated, service is going to have to be easier down the road with the Ford.
@@AP13P Tesla's are notoriously poorly built. The interior of a Model 3 is directly comparable with a Ford Fusion, and that's not saying much. It's honestly pretty sad when Ford's have better fit and finish than cars priced 3 times as much. Tesla's are cool from a novelty standpoint, but they're struggling horribly with fit and finish.
@@OhPhuckYou I purchased two model Y's, and both had perfect build qualities. I was ready to cancel my deliveries if I found anything, and boy did I check. You will need a better argument as things have improved a lot. You only see the negative, people don't talk about the positive as much. I've owned over 20 cars, and so far the Tesla's have needed zero maintenance. Can't say that for most other cars I've owned. Everything else is subjective so to each their own.
Doug, I’m not saying your opinion is the end all be all but you have millions upon millions of people who respect your unbiased point of view when it comes to reviewing vehicles. That being said I feel it would be wise of auto manufacturers to pay you as a consultant to come on board as they finalize plans for vehicles they are creating to get a great point of view and maybe tweak things before the initial release of that vehicle. Makes a lot of sense because people really value your opinion and I believe after watching a review you do it could sway a lot of people decision wether to purchase said vehicle.
One thing you didn’t mention in your comparison: charging networks I don’t know if you’ve had experience with the various charging networks but the Supercharging network is way ahead of everything else, especially terms of ease of use.
This is the second reason I went with the model y performance over this. First was not having to deal with dealerships trying to mark these up as well as other junk they try to pull.
True but 1) not really a factor for daily/weekend driving, which is 90% of 90% of drivers' use case for a car of this type; and 2) the charging network operators Ford has in its network have been closing the gap on Tesla pretty rapidly over the last year or two, and at least where I live (mid-Atlantic) the Ford network is entirely adequate. Throw in the fact that Tesla's excellent destination charger network can be used by other cars with a relatively inexpensive adapter and the difference, while real, has less impact on real-world practicality for most owners than Tesla fanbois would have one believe. If course this dependent on one's particular use case and the particulars of the networks where one lives, so YMMV (literally).
Ford plug and charge functionality thru its app has been pretty seamless in the months we've had our Mach-E. I've only used it three times (little enough to have a lot of the free kWhs they give you remaining) but each time it's been a completely seamless plug and charge experience for me. Again, I guess it depends on where you are. There's no doubt that the fact Tesla owns its network is an advantage in terms of their quality control but I personally have no complaints.
Absolutely. As an aspiring EV owner in the midwest, there is no other option other than tesla. REALLY want a Rivian R1t, but it's just not practical here.
The supercharging network only matters on roadtrips and every day the supercharger network on electrify america is built out more and more. Tesla’s biggest strength is the battery technology advantages rather than the superficial advantage of the “better built out charging network” which is being eroded every day. Don’t get me started in rhe build quality of an traditional car company with 20-30 years minimum in car production compared to Tesla who are still working out the small issues in auto production.
2019 Doug loves how subtle the 2003 Audi RS6s exterior styling is. 2021 Doug thinks the Mustang Mach E GTs exterior styling is to subtle. Bro...bro....make up your mind bro.
I love everything about it except that it's a mustang crossover. I hope Lincoln will make a performance and luxury oriented crossover. That will interest me alot more more.
Great review. You helped me make up my mind as I was looking at a model y after I swore that I wouldn’t give Elon any of my money! Mach E GT Performance it is.
The latest has the same electronic pop-out flush design. God it is a breathtaking redesign/update (even with the new flush handles - unnecessarily complicated, but still beautiful).
It's the massive hypocrisy in our government. And guaranteed some politicians are being paid off to allow these massive tablets in cars. "ItS tHe FuTuRe!" No. No it is not.
@@stupidvideos1449 continue to prioritize looking at screens over watching the road and you may not live long enough to have some dumb kid call you an old man.
I saw a regular Mach-E on the road a few days ago and it was confusing at first, then I realized oh wait it's a Mach-E. They look so good in person, especially in that blue metallic color.
I could not agree with you more Doug on the Tesla fanboy's lack of understanding of overall vehicle dynamics and seeing 0 - 60 acceleration as the only benchmark!
@@ismaelcarrillo3956 oh really? What states? I thought the $7500 was for any state but each OEM only gets a certain number of cars sold with the rebate. Tesla has gone over but Ford hasn't
@@ismaelcarrillo3956 These are new, so there's no data on depreciation yet. Being a Ford does not mean it automatically tanks in value. Some Ford models have strong resale value, they are not all equal.
I wish the Tesla charging network factored into Doug’s reviews, it’s what makes having an ev viable for any sort of long distance trip. The alternatives are currently garbage.
Doug touched on a good point that I’d like to finish. Tesla’s are amazing. When they work. All vehicles break. Getting a Tesla fixed is incredibly expensive. Often the vehicles are declared a total loss in minor accidents (Tesla’s are unsurprisingly expensive as hell to insure compared to other similarly priced vehicles) which explains why there are so many at auction. I have a few friends with Model 3’s and they all love them until they need something fixed. Granted no problems have ever disabled their vehicles, but they will drive around with them broken for 2 months waiting to get a cracked moonroof glass fixed for $2000.
Tim, Telsa fully warrants their vehicles for 4 years/50K miles. I've owned 4 Telsa cars since 2013, and in total, I've spent less than $2000 combined for all 4 cars (excluding tires).
@@JB-yw2im Like all car companies, they don’t cover wearable/consumable items without an ESP (which I don’t believe Tesla offers) but my point wasn’t about their warranty work - that wasn’t even brought up - and focused on the cost to replace consumable items or damaged items. Tesla charges ridiculous premiums, beyond even that of Porsche, for things like replacement suspension, brakes, glass, wheels and tires. The worst part is there is no aftermarket so you have to purchase from Tesla, and the lead times for parts can be months. This was even before the pandemic. It’s great you had positive experience, but that is not common.
@@emotionz3 You are correct that some consumables (wiper blades, in particular) are expensive, but my experience has been that out of pocket maintenance costs are MUCH less than comparable gas vehicles. One of my cars developed a crack in the windshield, which would have been $1300 to replace, but Tesla actually covered it under warranty. Again, in total for 4 different Teslas I've owned, I've spent less than $2000 since 2013 -- roughly $500 per car.
We have the Mach-e and a model 3 performance. The mustang i love driving way more but I think for anyone looking into buying an EV you should consider charging capabilities. We've driven both the mach-e and tesla from CA to CO, had to take both cars, and yeah it was much more simplier with the tesla. But much more comfortable in the mach-e, thats the one i drove.
@@TESLAenjoyer not really, it's just easier to hit a button which is always in same place. But we get it, it's cheaper to have a screen, and for some size of that screen is now most important thing while buying a car.
@@TESLAenjoyer that’s not boomer mentality. Having respect for analog controls such as actual switches/buttons/and ESPECIALLY gauges is a matter of preference and opinion. Your “Gen Z” cohort should REALLY consider having respect for your elders & even for yourselves. By far the softest generation I’ve ever seen or heard of. You guys have no concept of reality and the reality y’all want is purely strange.
The Mach-E appears to be selling quite well for Ford. I see it on streets just as much as Model Xs and Model Ys. In fact I even see more Mach-Es on the road compared to the Bronco, at least in my city. I wasn't expecting the Mach-E to sell well
@@TESLAenjoyer That's a damn lie 15,883 of the 48 thousand were sold in America and the rest were sold in Europe.so far And 70% of its buyers are from other brands and they've already surpassed their first Year's run and the year isn't even over for them yet. And let's not forget the factory they just opened in China. So please stop the lies and get your information correct before you start running your mouth
Most of the articles and reviewers who have reviewed the Mustang Mach e have chosen it over the Tesla Model Y and Model 3. Straight Pipes just gave the Tesla Plaid a scathing review you should go check that one out.
Honestly, from a marketing standpoint, it’s brilliant they named this a Mustang. If Ford wants to have a share in the EV market they needed to make a splash and have done so.
@@everydaybodybuilding2282 the naming is only a con to enthusiasts. 99% of buyers will first recognize the name and then ask more questions about the vehicle. Now whether the vehicle delivers is an opinion but I’ve only heard good things about the vehicle so far.
@@jeremy144713 I think there’s an argument that it confused some people and it definitely creates an identity in a good and bad way. You definitely can’t know that it’s totally “genius” and successful. I think there’s a good argument that a better moniker could have been found that could have worked out even better. We will never know, but I think it’s had mixed success. The things aren’t exactly filling the streets right now, are they? Not like the bronco sport.
There's a big asterisk you forgot to talk about and it's the charging situation for long distance driving. On the Mach E, you will be much better off using a third party website and plan your charging in advance since the Ford system easily makes you go to unreliable and slow chargers. You simply won't have that problem on a model Y.
The Ford charging infrastructure is improving rapidly though and plus I like the look of the Mach e more than the Model Y so I would rather get the Mach E with the performance package
@@joriuschuwa There is no Ford charging network. They use a good chunk of the existing charging network including Electrify America, which is still littered with reliability issues (and that's one of the better networks). Just go watch MKBHD's road trip.
Nah, it's a super powerful awesome electric 4 door suv/crossover. I'm hoping we'll see actual muscle car-ish EV's at some point, meaning somewhat affordable coupés with crazy power.
I'm glad both vehicles exist. I think if you are going longer distances the extra range is nice but the Supercharger network is an even bigger benefit. The various chargers used by the Ford are not nearly as good. Also, I have heard a few issues where Ford dealers are just unable to repair the EVs. They don't have tooling, replacement parts, or knowledge and I'm not entirely convinced the Ford model is better for EVs. I'm sure that will change as they dealers get up to speed but I would do more research in this before buying one.
It's a reference to the original Mustang speedometer. A lot of performance cars in the 1960s did that since that was an aviation/space flight reference.
Dont forget that the Mustang's name is actually based in aviation It was an homage to the P-51 Mustang from WW2 Light, nimble, quick and deadly to its opponents
Doug..two things. WE have had our mach e 6 months now and the dealership flat out told us they don't know how to fix it. God forbid anything breaks. 2. I STILL don't have my face under my profile after all this time. There are several things that do not work.....My friend who has a Tessla goes on an app and makes an appointment. I have a recall on my car and the dealership told me to come back ( I got notified on my app) when I have the paper in my hand from the mail AND informed me they are several months out for appointments. Had I known all of this, I would have bought something different.
Whatever else you can say about Tesla, they have forced all the other car companies to innovate. I doubt this car would exist in this form if it didn't have to compete with Tesla.
Yeah I kind of agree there, but the Ford C-Max never sold well and was basically a compliance vehicle. Ford was smart for naming this one "Mustang" from a marketing standpoint. Sales for these are showing that it paid off.
It's actually a brilliant move. People need motivation to buy a new product. They wouldn't buy a new EV from Ford if it had a brand new name with no history.
@Paul S I see what you mean with Dodge (although both the Charger and Challenger are the best selling models in their tiny segments, which is still pretty impressive on its own since they still sell in fairly large retail numbers and not just mostly fleet, and also given their old age as you mentioned)... but the Edge and Ecosport are the only mediocre/poor-selling models that Ford sells now. They pretty much own the fleet/commercial market with the Transit variants, and virtually every other SUV/CUV they sell now has either been a sales success (Explorer, Escape) or sales hit (Maverick, Bronco/Sport, Mach-E) in recent years. The Expedition is still mid-pack sales-wise and the Ford GT supercar not included. I will say that it's pretty pathetic that Ford bowed out of the sedan market entirely though, as if admitting defeat when Toyota and Honda can still confidently move hefty amounts of Camry's and Accords annually without resorting to many fleet sales.
