i have a few fixes for military stuff. if you need the heavy webbing on military style items stitched or restiched go to a shoe repair place. they have the equipment you need to stitch that heavy material. the alice pack frame has two circular holes on the sides of the metal frame. one on each side. and two cigar shaped holes on the back of the frame. if the plastic around these holes is missing buy some car edging at an auto supply store. you know the ones that prevent the edges of car doors from slamming into other cars. measure the sizes of these holes and cut the edging to fit. the pieces on the holes might be hard to get on but it will go on. might use some glue to help them stay on. after 50 years of screwing around military stuff i have actually learned a few things. hope this is helpful. support the 2nd amendment . they are your property, no one elses.
The chest or 'sternum' strap is to relieve 'shoulder bind'. Basically, if your shoulders are narrow, the straps tend to want to walk down or 'outward', causing you to always have to be adjusting them back 'to center of chest'...it's a REAL FIGHT on a long march. The wider your shoulders are (than the pack frame), the less fight you have, but heavy or 'deep' loads (where the pack is extended aft more) can cause all sorts of back and shoulder pain due to strap-shifting. The 'sternum' strap holds the shoulder straps together, so they place the pack's load where it should stay...on your shoulder muscles...not on your shoulder 'bursus' joint. Also, the Marine Corps kept the LC1 and LC2 in stock, simultaneously...and until you just explained how to identify the straps differently, I personally never knew there was but one set of pack straps...because supply ALWAYS threw you a frame, and a set of straps, and YOU rigged your frame...so it was 'beef stew' when it came to 'what pack went with what frame went with what set of straps'...just like we mixed-and-matched 'Y' harnesses with 'H' harnesses (until some Colonel would get his panties in a wad over UNIFORMITY...then supply would get their FUBAR trash together and issue ONE-TYPE ONLY per Company).
Thanks for this, was just on amazon looking at Alice packs with the frame...& it was $89 for the lc2 with pack...but I’d prefer the woodlands one better...so saved me some money! Thx a bunch!
Thank you for that a just bought a alice pack large and mine is the LC2 middle one of yours very cool thank you a paid £40 here in the UK am also looking for a medium Alice but here they are anything from £65 up yeah love my alice pack a find it more comfortable then the British infantry bergen 120ltr that's a beast . Take care a subd. Liam
I'm planning on putting together a Ghostbuster replica costume based on how the uniform had looked of the 1989 film "Ghostbusters II (2)" and I've been thinking about using the LC-2 shoulder straps, waist straps and kidney pad for my replica proton pack since they were used for the proton packs of the second film.
@@collectornick4270 Thanks, I really do appreciate it. Mainly, the reason why my replica costume will be based on how the uniform had looked of the second film is because Ghostbusters II was released during the same year I was born in 1989, except Ghostbusters II was released on the 16th of June and I was born one month later on the 26th of July.
Okay 'Nick'! Nice review of ALL 3 ALICE pack frames. I didn't realize there was a difference between the LC-1 and LC-2 frames - thought it was all in the straps and pads. Apparently there's a lot YTers that don't know either! It seems most of the Chinese 'copies' are like the LC-1 frame - which actually is smaller, lighter and the middle cross strap isn't 'set back' as far as the LC-2 as you pointed out. Many YT ALICE gear 'reviewers' are pointing out the Chinese copies are 'thinner and lighter' but they're actually identical (well - still made in China) to the LC-1 frame 'design'.👍
I have the Alice large pack full kit with frame. What was the og Vietnam pack with the odd shaped frame and the pack that sits near the bottom of the frame?
Do the Hellcat mod on the 3rd one. Looks like all you will have to do is replace the kidney pad/belt that’s on it with the newer hip pad/belt. Much more comfortable.
I have a NOS lc2 medium woodland , the problem I have and for me is untested , is the quick release system on the shoulder straps , the plastic piece that interlocks the two metal tabs always seems to seem to be halfway backing out , I was wondering was this a problem , straps coming loose
Yeah I'm not really interested and quick release I might try to find a way to rig it up where it won't come loose I haven't used it and it looks like it could be a problem but so far it hasn't completely come apart on me
I own olive drab, woodland, and MarPat without Anchor, (which means it has the original colors and it's not yet another "digital woodland" clone) which was made for a special contract with the Albanian Army and ended up in surplus because they never paid for it. I've heard of black ones from another special contract, but I can't confirm it. Maybe it was just some made in China belts, LC2 style, sold with original frames. I know of a frame without bends towards the top, but I never got a hold of one of those. Who would have thought that there's so much going on in the ALICE universe.
The green LC-2 straps, thats not "Olive Drab" to my understanding, they're CG483 (Camo Green 483).. at least the ALICE rucks and butt pack i have in that green have that code stamped on them.
If you're talkin about along the edge of the wedding it is because that same webbing can be used to manufacture gear that would be used for harnesses. Safety webbing, if you will.
@@nicholask7347 yes, I wonder about that red line along the edge. My ALICE webbings has it too. That red stripe not really blending in with the green of the gear :-). So you say this red means that piece is safety webbings grade harness?
@@laszlokocsis7817 that is my understanding. Red has a certain weight limit, just as yellow does. Now that I I just said that, most of the harnesses I have seen, be there parachute rigs or flight crew harnesses, all have yellow on the ends.
It's for training I believe, I've never seen it on frame straps but I've seen in original photos the Y-straps with red stitching along them during training or field exercises.
Does that first Alice frame you showed us have a US stamp on it? Believe it or not, that's a Chinese reproduction frame. Not, saying the straps or kidney strap are. Just that frame looks to be. Maybe, not. But, sure looks like one. There's videos on it to be able to spot them out.
