Star Wars The Acolyte got its first 5d-ay viewership numbers in. And it's Disney's biggest original debut in 2024. But here is why that isn't exactly good news... #StarWars #Disney #TheAcolyte
If I ever do decide to hate watch it, or any other of Disney's slop, it certainly won't be on Disney+ Same with Amazon. I have Prime but I still pirate their shows because fuck 'em for putting ads in front of paying customers.
What’s incredibly disingenuous about the “first day numbers” is that the “4.8 million” is for two episodes not just one. Disney is playing a shell game by comparing apples and oranges.
Disney and Netflix calculate "views" by the total number of minutes streamed divided by the total available runtime of the show. So it doesn't matter how many episodes are out...
After 3 episodes I actually look at the comments section on one of these... I've watched/read more Star Wars material than anyone in my fam/friends and the absolute shock of this community's reaction being the complete opposite of mine is still wearing off. It really gets the campy feel of classic star wars, but I guess that's not what folks wanted....?
@@paulbasaur I feel the same way, it nails the campy feel of Star Wars, has some really cool fights, fun setpieces, lots of aliens, and portraits the Jedi in a manner that is very close to Lucas vision, yet people seem to hate it? It's so strange to me, I feel like I'm watching a different show than these people...
There is defintely an organised hate campaing though. No reasonable person woudl give it a friggin 1/10 like the "user reviews" on IMDB. It's either organised or a startling number of people lack the capacity for even the bare minimum of nuance to use a 1-10 scale properly.
@@LordDarthHarry I've seen this reasoning elsewhere (including the article you're probably parroting this from), and all I can say is - please don't act brand new. In case you are brand new : how humans use rating systems is something that has and continues to be actively studied. The one thing we know for certain is that what you're describing as a "nuanced" rating is not the norm. What's normal is polarization and middle avoidance. The less moderated and informal the setting - the more likely the rating system is used as a binary signal of disagreement. so no, it doesn't mean what you think it means.
@@seanbehnisch6185 Sure, but this starwars is centered around star wars. Strong emotions about a bad show that is indicative of where the franchise is heading seems OK to me.
@KoobanHooves1 The whole "our kind wont be accepted" garbage was clear social commentary on lesbians not being accepted. The whole only female witch coven was symbolic of lesbian society, and the making babies using the "thread" was symbolic of the creation of babies without actually having sex, which wealthier homosexuals resort to.
@@KoobanHooves1 So you did not watch the interview were they talk about how this is the "g@yest star wars ever" , "every geek is g@y", "C-3PO is g@y", "R2-D2 is a lesb!@n"?! Those words actually came out of their mouths. This show is one very expensive therapy session for Leslie Headland, $180 million for 8 episodes of 25 minutes of nothing, but pandering!
@@aeschylus6250 Andor was ~20 million per episode, while The Acolyte was ~22 million. Andor also had to contend with the unknown effects of Covid though, while The Acolyte had the benefit of being made in a more mature market, so the The Acolyte should have been cheaper and easier to make; as of yet though, that hasn't demonstrated any benefits. Regardless, Andor could afford to underperform, since Disney never expected to build off of it in the first place, since Rogue One already concluded that story. The Acolyte, by contrast, is the live-action flagship of the High Republic era, so underperforming might have graver consequences.
Obviously, what did you expect? In episode 1 you can see how badly it is acted and how shit dialogue is, that's outside all the writing decisions. So for an average viewer who checks it out of interest what was so heavily marketed- it's star wars in an era they are unfamiliar with, with wooden characters they struggle to care about in a "murder mystery" plot that even a 7yo kid can quickly put together from watching the first 1-2 episodes. That's, again, not even mentioning the general writing quality and some decisions an average viewer might disagree with.
Nah, man... Most normal people I've seen say that it's just ok or fine. A lot of the hate I've seen from the show is talking about the most trivial stuff / misinterpreting a lot of stuff. I also saw that, somehow, the Acolyte has more reviews made by users compared with ALL the shows that were successful in the past. Also, considering how most IMDb stuff that has "Acolyte" in their name gets review bombed.
It is also worth mentioning that the Acolyte, unlike Ahsoka, isn't written around popular characters, so people wouldn't have as much interest in it as Ahsoka.
acolyte is too woke. Plus Ashoka being written about beloved characters is a double edged sword, it’s why all the new marvel movies fail, they are confusing if you don’t know the previous backstories of characters.
Even my father who has been a star wars fan ever since the first movie released said that he will unsubscribe from dinsey+ because he wants to stop supporting this crap
I have been defending Disney Star Wars since the sequel trilogy but I truly have nothing to say for this. In the words of SpongeBob 🧽 S3 Ep50: "You're on your own pal."
Huh I've kinda been on board every backlash to disney Star Wars projects that has happened, yet this feels like it gets the classic overly campy feel of the originals while blending in high republic pompous jedi.. so its a first for me as well.
It was pitched as a show about the sith and from the Sith perspective. Instead we've got a TV-14 show about moronic jedi and a brat assassin. There has only been one Sith in the show and he didn't show up until the last 30 seconds of episode 2 to spout some nonsense about Sith not using weapons while he ignites his weapon.🤦♂️ And the third episode was just a bunch of nonsense.
@@conscientiousobjector5988 to be fair, a tv series is supposed to hook people early on to ensure they keep watching, i have only watched episode 1 of the acolyte, mostly because the show has awful pacing. They set up the show to be a murder mystery "someone is killing jedi" but 30 minutes into the first episode they dissipate any suspense by having all the characters figure out Mae is alive and responsible, removing all the mystery and any reason for a viewer to feel the need to watch the next episode. They then show a sith in the last minute if i remember correctly but its hardly enough to keep my attention and from what I heard the sith doesn't make another appearance in ep 2 or 3, could be wrong as i haven't watched it. A whodunit is usually a far more successful plotline than a whydunit and a whodunit usually evolves naturally to a whydunit by the end but the acolyte solves the mystery too quickly.
@@janoslambert-cannon7146 Supposed to? It is a rarity. And some of the most memorable programming I have watched over the course of my life took patience to develop an affinity for. But I don't really want to have a discussion about that. It's not my role in life to consider every one else's gripes when it comes to something as trivial as fiction. Either you watch it or you don't.
@@ESPcrb Because too many people have too many different complaints about why they don't like it. Statistically, this suggests there may be a common reason but instead of being honest about it, that reason is being concealed with excuses whether consciously or subconsciously.
@@conscientiousobjector5988 well he scourges the galaxy trying to find a way to do this and is the emporor so has all their knowledge for the most part including the Jedi archives... why would he not know about this? Why is it so easy for them and not him?
@@aetoski8724 palpatine transfered his spirit into a clone body how is that similar at all also like clones already exist in starwars and were established as far back as ANH
@@chocolatebar6785 The issue is Force clones.. regular clones are created in a lab so it just is different. But Force Clones..ALWAYS.. burn out because they can't handle the load. its in all cannon all the way back.
Acolyte was the final straw for me, but really it was the pricing for Disney+. I couldn’t justify paying $22 per month for Disney+ when there’s at best 3 shows I wanted to watch, (including Acolyte).
Honestly, I’m hoping some kind of huge crash in the Disney stocks or something happens to either, make them sell off the IPs to better people (hopefully, like Dreamworks), Disney changes for the betterment of the customers (probably not 😔…), or Disney falls aparts. (Dont get super heated about this please, I haven’t fully thought about what would happen in any of this scenarios, oh well, whatever.
Over a year or so ago, Disney stocks were trading at $200 a share. Now they're trading at under $100 a share. And they're still staying on track with the DEI nonsense. It goes to show that Disney doesn't really care about money. It's all about sending a message.
Tomorrow is tuesday. You know what that means. Time to torture yourself and see how awful the next episode is. I just hope they cancel it for our sake.
If it's so awful and you hate it so much, why are you watching it then? Better yet, why do you care? isn't it bad? so just ignore it and let the rest of us who aren't being manipulated by the outrage machine enjoy it. take your racism, sexism, and homophobia back to reddit twitter, or 4chan or whatever cesspool you came from
Interesting how you care so much still about something you say it’s so bad. It’s so obviously bad that you have to keep reminding us how terrible and woke it is. Almost like you’re miserable as a human being in real life and nobody likes to be around you. Haha it’s not getting canceled. Acolyte is a finished product and it will be judged accordingly, not by your standards of racism and sexism and homophobia
@@EvilOverlord1662 they can’t help themselves. They need to feel outraged and tell everyone of their online friends how mad they are about “wokeness” (because they don’t have friends in real life due to how miserable they as people)
My biggest complaint is they didn’t cast actual identical twins to play twins or just use one actor for both young twins. I found it distracting and insulting.
Who cares if people enjoy this, if majority of fans don’t like it we should voice that so we can get quality content. Imagine if people said the holiday special should be the standard for quality just because people defend it.
I didn’t realize it was an end credits song.. thought it was in the show haha this is fine imo If you’re getting upset at the end credits music you’re complaining too much. When we get amazing end credits music it’s amazing but that’s usually not the case so why is this any different
@@SnannyYT Honestly I don't see how this is a rehash at all. Different story from the canon stories. Different setting. Different angle. What is it rehashing exactly?
It's sad that Star wars has gone down hill. And it's all thanks to Disney. They produced some good shows, Andor, Ahsoka and Mandalorian from what I have heard and seen, but. They are really killing the fan base, and it shows. I have been a star wars fan for years, and even this just makes me sick. George, We need you back man. Disney is literally ruining the love us fans have for star wars
I actually enjoyed the first 2 episodes, shame it went this way, if all the remaining episodes are as good as the first 2(doubtful) it may be able to scrape its way back. I know for many this episode was it though and they are done with it.
I think this show has been best with its fight scenes. So a zero fight episode kind of drags. I think the shows been alright so far, hoping it takes off in the next couple episodes and ends well. I wanna see good Jedi shows!
@@alexanderthegreat4103 to me I really don’t mind the Jedi are bad idea that they’re kind of pushing. Because I mean they are not all bad and it’s not they are evil, but the Jedi basically control how the force is used by the time of the prequels. And how could they do that without forcing other groups out of power in some way. It’s like they need to spread the popularity of the Jedi so other force practices aren’t as popular. Anyways I think something is there
Yeah I only watched it because of curiosity. People seemed so ready to hate it so I was curious to see if the response would be appropriate to the show. Now that I have an inkling just how large the Disney hater crowd is I'm not too interested in the show. I will watch the next episode though because I want to see Mae fight the wookie. The fight scenes have been the best thing in this easily.
Tbf, Ahsoka is to a lot of people Rebels season 5 but in live action, and I think Ahsoka S2 is going to be amazing, as well as the rest of the acolyte, might be an unpopular opinion but it seems to me like a faster paced version of Andor
Pretty obvious Disney is pumping out slop daily because they know people will still watch it. Less time means less polish/good writing and more money. People were gonna get fed up eventually and Disney is just saying what people want to hear in regards to the shows.
Now we have a wonderful comparison between the show written by an experienced, talented team ('Andor') and the show made by activists (guess which one :)).
I get what you’re trying to say, but are you seriously suggesting a show as blatantly anti fascist and anti colonialist as Andor wasn’t also made by activists? Good writers can be activists too, in fact that often makes their media more meaningful.
@@saucevc8353 Didn't found anything anti-fascist and anit-colonialist in Andor. You try to name things Andor is about using very narrow terms that fit only to short period of time in the history. According to creator it is about rebellion. From the show we know that it is rebellion against dictatorial power which slowly takes freedom from everyone. Such dictatorships were not only fascist, but also communist, monarchist or just without any -ism. Also conquest of other cultures to rob their wealth or make them part of your empire is much longer then age of colonialism started slightly more then 500 years ago. Such conquests were done already thousands of years ago. They were done by people on every continent. There is huge difference between show creators who base their creation on history to use things which were happening over and over in the past and between bunch of activists without any good knowledge and understanding. So yeah, for activist Andor can be anti-fascist and anit-colonialist because activist mind is very narrow and he knows only this slogans and do not know that both fascism and colonialism are just episodes in history of dictatorships and conquests done by people who desired wealth or power.
@@wojtek1582 A huge part of Andor’s plot is about a large technologically advanced empire colonizing and oppressing a planet of tribal natives … yes conquest isn’t unique to colonialism but this is such an obvious allegory.
If a movie or show can resonant in asian markets. Every internet review bomb doesn't amount to shit. NA all we want to do is fight about shows. Not actually bother watching them. And it makes online reviewers a lot more clicks to feed that hunger.
Conscientuous just noticed it's weird to have a profile of a blackman with a name called Dave Blackman. Matter of fact gives me an idea to create a Dave Whiteman myself. I'll get back to u guys just wait for a bit.
I’ve lost confidence in most new media since 2020, and I can say it is better to just not watch, if I watch something it’s like a year late and definitely on a streaming service and not on a random website. 😉
They were tryna sabotage the show even before it was released. It's the bitter bunch's narrative in the lead right now but just watch and be candid. That's about all we can do.
And? People stick around and even praise slow build-up in shows when it's done correctly, like with Game of Thrones which is longer and far more subtle in dialogue, and Andor if we want to keep this to Star Wars. There's being slow paced and nuanced, and then there's being slow paced because there's barely any going on, barely anything worthwhile anyway.
@@Manglet762 i think your being disingenuous. Theres plenty going on so far. I do feel like we’ve had 3 episodes of set up. I hope it sticks the landing.
Some good news that this mess is slowing down makes me happy to see, I got burned big time with The Galaxy Far Far Away with the Sequel Trilogy, with the Last Jedi on how that ruined Star Wars let alone Lucasfilm for me, I don't want to waste my time or my money again on something that has high odds of being bad, the Acolyte has decent fight scenes but everything else is a mess, not enough to carry that series. I really do hope that this and whatever slop Dosney farts out ends up putting them negatively in the financial department so maybe they'll actually try, I just hope it's not too late. Again George Lucas has a lot of stocks of Disney if I recall which was part of the Disney buyout, so if Lucas snaps well he can hit the nuclear option.
'keep it simple'? Triangle is the most simple figure in the world. Sphere is the most complicated in 3d dimension. Would you rather see complicated forms that have numerous angles, or simplify it to triangular forms without depth?
Personally, I'm loving this show, and think it's the most well-made Disney SW outside of Andor and Rogue One. I understand and agree with a lot of the criticisms of Disney SW, but with this show, it just seems like people had already made up their minds, and are nitpicking and overreacting to so-called lore-breaking (of which I've seen absolutely nothing that even challenges the lore/canon, let alone breaks it). I think it's really sad that people are, IMHO, not even giving the show a chance. I feel like it could be Andor-level good, and people would still be bashing it. ...IMHO.
sorry, no. this show has precisely 1 engaging element, namely its murdery mystery told via unreliable POV. that nominally interesting premise is *completely* undermined by the introduction of literal mind control. the writing on the wall is clear : whatever lingering questions you have about who did what and why, will be explained in part or in full with "LOL HYPNOTIZED" I always like seeing Andor getting its much deserved appreciation, but it definitely does not deserve to be compared to this show. They are not in the same league, ballpark, zip code or hemisphere.
Don’t worry guys if they are more diverse and inclusive and throw more money into the giant money pit, they will somehow become profitable, remember step one take an existing IP with a massive fan base and run it into the ground, step two… step three profit.
Maybe, just maybe 🤔 people are getting sick and tired of terrible writing and scene making. "The power of 1 2 and 3" bullshit has to be one of the most asinine scenes I've ever seen, like it's one of those scenes where it hurts to watch
The story for the show so far is kind of not great, i’m hoping it gets better because the season isn’t over and it’s not really fair to judge the show until the season is over but it seems pretty cooked to me. The characters are just not interesting enough for me to care about the mystery they have going on with it.
Slowing down? 4.8 million was NOT traction. Other shows DWARF those numbers in a single day. This show is simply going from crawling to standing still.
D+ needs lower budget shows that air every week. They cant grow by having one new show every few months, especially when the shows dont get that many views
And all the youtubers who's entire shtick is hatign everythign say it's the worst thing ever and the morbilionth death of Star Wars, and if I disagree im a shill. See the strawman works both ways.
I tend to agree with the fanbase about the bad quality of Disney SW products, specially its trilogy; however, in this case, I'm on the opposite side. This shows, so far, it's *truly* good. It is rich in themes, presents new perspectives, there are questions to be solved. I'd like to see where it goes. It could turn out really bad, of course, but anyone who watches it with an open mind will find it not only entertaining, but that it enriches the SW world.
I wouldn't call it truly good by any means. Maybe mediocre. Too much clunky dialogue, bad directing/acting, stupid moments etc. but yeah, it's themes and main plot does seem to be functioning thus far.
@@Juel92 You're right, I'm exaggerating when I say 'truly'. I got carried away because I think it's getting way more hate tahn it deserves. Acting could be better (though that's a critique that could be made of any SW product) and some situations are indeed clunky. To be concrete unlike every other comment, I'm referring to ep. 2 where 'someone gets to its destiny faster than others' (trying to avoid spoilers). But overall I think the show is interesting.
I have seen lots of critique on this show, some of which is pretty good and on point - BUT what greatly irritates me are people who slip in and insinuate there would be 'lesbian propaganda', an 'agenda' or things like that. These two queer characters and this particular characteristic were not even that central in themselves, compared to other points, e.g. how the twins were created, or the age of Ki Adi Mundi... They feature in one episode. The drama around this feels unproportional, and aside from valid critique towards the show, it makes me wonder if some people are simply trying to spread hate against us queer folks under the guise of commentary.
When you try your hardest to deconstruct what people like in favor of an unpopular clearly biased format is anyone surprised at falling viewing, and who the hell still has Disney+ now? This garbage will never be considered canon even in twenty years.
Don't hate watch, don't even talk about it. Ignore this dumpster fire of a show so it can starve and die. That's how you get shows kicked off of streaming services.
This show, and the zealot extremist in control of Star Wars has utterly destroyed any interest I have in Star Wars anymore. I never missed a video from Eck or Generation Tech, and I can’t even bring myself to watch half the videos anymore
Bro how tf they fail this shit. Like I forgot it was Star Wars. This can’t even be called Star Wars the jedi used the saber 2 times. And one of them was so they could see in a cave. The recent episode was completely shit.
@@Juel92 ik but there hasn’t been a single real fight scene and yet they make some cool bad ass sith and they don’t even show him besides that very small scene for him to say few words and there aren’t barely any episodes left. So stop calling me a child when I just want to see classic Star Wars action
@@jordcoh7722 No I'm def gonna call people saying "more lightsabers for no other reason than I find them cool" children. Not even as an insult but as a fact.
I rlly hope some kind of protest against bad movies start. Let’s all just stop watching new Star Wars movies/shows. I’m sure the fall of Disney will be a lot more entertaining than anything else they make
