The Agony of the 1989 Worlds Balance Beam Final 

The permitted variance in judges' scores were set as: - Scores between 9.500 and 10.000 -> 0.10 variance - Scores between 9.000 and 9.475 -> 0.20 variance - All other scores -> 0.30 variance Note that: 1. The permitted variance is in reference to the average of the four counting scores. Thus, even though the Greek judge is technically out of range, it doesn't matter because her score was one of the two that were thrown out. 2. The permitted variances listed above also needed to be maintained between the C / Chief judge scores and the average of the 4 counting judges' scores.

You are on the money with your critique and Yang Bo damn sure should have been the winner, and Cheng got robbed and why?? Who tf were they scoring!! I still would have given the win to Yang Bo bc the others didn't do their routines as good as she did, period.

​​@@gymdecoderThis is INSANITY. Even if a judge's score is thrown out, it affects the values of the ones that are counted. Maybe she missed something or needed coaching to get in line. So Chen doesn't get robbed. It's obvious the Chinese didn't have the influence to get her to change her score the way the Americans did with the Brazilian judge on Brandy Johnson's vault. SMH.

I 100 percent agree that the West German judge giving Yang a 9.95 was just as valid as any of the judges giving Dudnik 9.95 🤷‍♂️

Listen, the baby needed formula…

@@ViardotVSGrisi she should have picked up some spinach too to help with her vaults 😂😭

I also know the Hungarian pronunciation of Onodi (I learned it before my 91 Worlds video and used it there), but of course I totally forgot before recording this 🤦‍♂️. This also happened to me the first time I learned how to correctly pronounce Boginskaya. Old habits die hard 😂😭

Thank you! 💗

The interesting thing is that there was a deduction for excessive cowboy in the COP. And ofc there was a Special requirement to show a leap or jump with great amplitude. The problem is that these are written subjectively, likely purposefully. It really allowed each judge to score to her preferences (or commands, if you want to be overly cynical). That's why I was pleasantly surprised to see how many judges did agree with me when it came to evaluating Chen and how close she came to medaling. That damn Greek judge RUINED MY LIFE. (Monica has an especially funny comment when Chen's scores are getting ready to come up that I hope to include in a future video 😂.)

I agree. Chen Cuiting was gorgeous to watch. Her double back was perfection with her legs glued together and toes pointed. She was robbed of a medal 🏅

My scores were lower than a lot of the judges 😂. Which goes to show that the scoring here was absolutely out of control!

Maybe Dudnik just had so much difficulty that the judges reduced the significance of her stumble on landing, hence her inflated score?

That's absolutely what they did. I talked about score mitigation in my video re-judging the 89 AA. I just think they went too far. Especially when you should be taking into consideration she's low-key missing a Special Requirement for not performing a leap or jump with great amplitude.

@@kballet2001 it's a callback to the video I did on the Floor Final 😂 (not sure if you saw that, but it makes more sense if you have)

I'm literally starting to wonder if they goofed and meant to write 9.95, missed the second 9, and were too embarrassed to admit it.

@@KaiOpaka That seems quite likely. Judges have punched in the wrong scores by accident numerous times in different sports. It happened with the Brazilian judge with Frechette in 92, and this judge came forward right away. It happened in Conway's short program at the 92 Olympics, with the Duchensays with one judge at the 88 Europeans, and numeorus other times. Sometimes the judge will try and admit they made a mistake right away but usually are too embarassed and will say nothing until after the event, if at all.

It was probably a mistake. Once in awhile in all sports the judge puts the wrong score by a slip of the key and are too embarassed to say anything. Sometimes they do say something like the Brazalian judge for Sylvie Frechette in synchronized swimming at the 92 Olympics.

I'm not sure men are allowed to judge WAG, at least not in elite. Thanks though!

​@@thesovgc should, not could 😢but you'd be great

@@thesovgc - there are male brevets in WAG, with the highest ranked currently holding Category II ratings.

It really is 😭. And for it to happen a second time two years later at 91 Worlds? Gut punch 💔

I knew what was coming before she started and i was already so upset 😢😢

So Heartbreaking 💔

Yes! Such a shame!! And then at the Olympics as well, she had a fall. We'll always have the 90 World Cup triumph at least! 💗

💯 I think perhaps I should have said that (for the most part) I was making observations and not pointing out deductions. For people who haven't seen my 89 Worlds AA video, it might sound like I am doing the latter (although that wouldn't really translate to the scores I end up giving, but that's neither here nor there 😂). The judging was so much more subjective.

@@thesovgc No worries. I very much enjoyed your thoughts on these routines. Daniela is my absolute favourite so I very much enjoyed this rotation. Dudnik was very under rated in her time or rather over shadowed by the extreme depth of the Russians at the time. And Yang Bo never gets old!

I'm glad they didn't go unnoticed! I'm slowly working on manually doing the captions for all my videos, but it's such a tedious and time-consuming process. I'm about 7 minutes through my 46 minute video about the 89 Worlds AA 😂

I'm just a looooongtime fan 💗

I love Sasha so much 😍

@@thesovgc Don't you!? Me too! 😍

That's what I want to know, Judge Mathis! (lol sorry my sister said that to him when she went on his show and I like to use it when applicable 😂)

Judges could only score in increments of 0.05 (so 9.8, 9.85, 9.9, 9.95, etc). Those truncated scores are due to the individual scores being averaged.

I’m sorry WHAT? Drooled in what kind of situation, pure spite, exhaling to much, or from sleep? I believe you, it’s just wild lore!

@@Johannes.P.A.Westblom probably the worst beam lore outside of water dripping on the beam at 2022 worlds 🥲

@@floralgem Reminds me of the insane beam scene from Final destination

Merci beaucoup Monsieur Jonathan 💗

Sadly, it was not a mistake. After all these years, I learned that Brandy Johnson originally was third on the vault here, and even got the bronze during the medal ceremony. But one of the judges said she had put in her score incorrectly. That was allowed to be corrected, which moved Brandy up to a tie for second. (She was then awarded her silver medal before one of the men's medal ceremonies.) Had the Greek judge made a mistake, I imagine it would have been allowed to be corrected in a similar fashion.

Usually a leap takes off of one foot and a jump takes off of two 💗 ETA: According to usghof.org/: Jump- Jumping from and landing on two feet · 2. Hop- jump from one foot to land on the other foot · 3. Leap- jump from one foot to the other.

With a leap you're travelling forward and land in a different spot, with a jump it's straight up and down so you land in the same spot

Here are the definitions of the various dance elements: Leap : One foot take off, with landing on the opposite foot Hop: One foot take off, with landing on the same / take off foot Jump: Two foot take off to landing on two feet Sissone: Two foot take off to landing on one foot (usually performed in a split position) Note that a switch leap is actually a hop because the take off and landing foot are the same.

Yet 4 of the judges gave her a 9.95 😂

LOL Daniela was ridiculously overscored as well to get 9.95 for that average routine. Purely on reputation and nothing else. I probably would have given Dudnik the gold over her even with the big mistake on the dismount.

@@dougierichardson484 Giving Dudnik the gold would mean trying to find a way gaslight everyone into believing she didn't experience the second biggest non-fall execution fuck-up in the final. I love her and agree she was phenomenal, but her "layout" full was ambiguously shaped, she performed dance skills like she had a protein deficiency, and she had a major fuck up on the landing.

@@matthewhines9787 Thats nice but Silivas's routine sucked and deserved something in the 9.8s so I stand by what I said. All of Daniela's golds at these worlds were a joke. Even Cathy Rigby and Bart Connor who are both HUGE Silivas fans called her bars gold tying with the Chinese girl who had a way better routine a disgrace, and Rigby joked in the post event wrap up it was a retirement party gift.

I think you actually told me this before, but I totally forgot 🤦. I wanted to say South Africa, but knew that wasn't right. And I remembered it was some kind of Germany, but foolishly thought of the wrong one 🫠

Form of duck?

Chen had a lack of difficulty?? I know her eponymous skill would only be rated a C, but the way she did it was *chef's kiss*. So two series, same as the Romanians. I guess you could fault her for not doing a three element acrobatics series, but I think the amplitude, originality, and polish make up for it. The only gymnast noticeably lacking difficulty in the Final IMO was Sazonenkova, but I didn't show her bc I still don't even know if she started out of a 10. Her scores were all over the place.

@@thesovgc For Sazonenkova's beam, I believe she may have only had a 9.9 SV. SR 1. Acrobatic series of two or several elements, one with flight phase - back handspring stepout + back handspring stepout or back walkover + back handspring to two feet + layout stepout 2. Gymnastic series of at least two elements - sissone + cat leap + sissone 3. Mixed series of two elements - sissone + back handspring stepout 4. One gymnastic turn of at least 360 degrees - full turn 5. One gymnastic leap or jump with great amplitude - sissone 6. One element / connection close to beam - kick to cross handstand - swing down to cross straddle sit / #6.05 7. Dismount, minimum B value - double tuck Required Value Parts: B x 2 (back handspring stepout, round off) C x 1 (back handspring stepout mount) D x 2, natural or value raised (layout stepout (value raised by being in connection with the back handspring to two feet), double tuck dismount) Originiality Bonus Side or cross handsand with double turn - 0.2 double tuck dismount - 0.1 Total Originality Bonus - 0.3 Additional natural D element - 0.00 Missing Total Bonus - 0.30 -> 9.9 SV Based on Sazonenkova's routine from team finals, she has a planned 10.0 SV. With this routine, she has two value raised D elements (the layout stepouts), but both can count because they are used in different connections. Then, the double tuck can fulfill the additional natural D element to achieve the full 0.40 in bonus.

Thank you for writing out the analysis! It definitely makes sense with both the scores and just when you watch the routine, it feels like she's not doing enough difficulty 😂. Had she added the necessary skill and done it well, she would have won bronze over Potorac. (Definitely fair IMO.)

Silivas's 3 golds at these worlds were all an embarassment and she didn't deserve a single one. Unlike her 3 golds in Seoul which were all well deserved, her golds her were a sham and she should be ashamed of herself for accepting them.

@@dougierichardson484 i agree she was incredibile overscored. And for Seoul she deserved gold on beam and bars. 4th place on vault and floor

I don't hate Onodi. I just made a video about her where I say she should have won the 92 Worlds Floor Title.

I think everybody but Chen Cuiting cowboyed their double back 💀

I feel like cowboy was almost the norm. I mean in 76 I noticed Comenici did it before I knew what it was called or that it was not ideal. I thought, huh, that’s a little ugly.

I'm trying to be nicer to Daniela. I've given her far more ish than she's deserved over the years and I need to atone for my sins.

@@thesovgc 😂😂😂😂😂

@@thesovgc Btw, I love your videos! I love when a new one comes out.

Thank you! That's so kind of you! 💗 🤗

You'll love my vault recap videos then 🤗

Yeah, I wished it weren’t in the way on several videos. Or at least make it smaller or put it where it doesn’t block the gymnasts. But, since I like the videos so much I just roll my eyes and sigh. Then go right back to listening.

Latest news is some Russian and Belarus athletes will be able to compete under a neutral flag. Right now there is not much information on qualifications though.

Oh dear.

In case you haven't been paying attention all these years, most coaches have historically been men... so...

Gotta love those uneducated comments by haters. He puts so much research into his videos. He looks at the codes of the day, not current day. Sheesh. Don’t like it, move along. 😂

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