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The Approach Shot (nearly) Everyone Is Throwing Wrong 

Scott Stokely
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This situation comes up all the time and nearly every player in the world throws it the far more difficult way. This sounds like an exaggeration but it isn’t. This shot I show you is so simple that every player that learns it will be better at it that any pro in the world is at throwing it the incorrect way!
Note: Gerry Geare was actually shown the throw by his friend Dave Yokum. When it comes to the history of throws,  it gets quite murky, because somebody often showed “the creator of the throw” that throw first and then later we hear about that throw being used elsewhere in the world even earlier. So when it comes to crediting a throw to someone, I typically credit “the inventor of the throw” as the first person to use to throw competitively at a higher level and in competition This is completely subjective, but it’s the definition that I tend to prefer… That doesn’t make it correct though, just my opinion :-)
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@nordicdiscgolferatrumble9430
Let's call it ROFL - Rolling on Fairway Lifesaver
@Chris.Davies
@Chris.Davies Год назад
Thanks Scott! After 35 years of disc golf, I didn't think there was another throw to learn. Being a beginner is awesome, and I can't wait to practice this one.
@johnhall9900
@johnhall9900 Год назад
Very cool and easy to learn, thanks for the tutorial and history lesson, Scott! I keep telling my buddies about your tutorials, as they've really helped my game.
@chrism4008
@chrism4008 Год назад
I've always been to scared to attempt a serious roller I really enjoy the history bits man, those are a really cool bonus not many of the channels can speak on
@johnroberts1009
@johnroberts1009 Год назад
I’ve only been playing for about 12 years and I’ve never seen anyone throw that shot. It’s the coolest shot I’ve ever seen. Thanks again for sharing this with us all. Can’t wait to give it a go. 😎
@nyqpi33
@nyqpi33 Год назад
Always love hearing more history of the game! I also never have seen this shot before and i WILL be practicing this! Great video!
@ericlynch9443
@ericlynch9443 Год назад
Scott, this is so amazing and literally going to change my game moving forward! Thank you!!!
@pepemagason6451
@pepemagason6451 Год назад
I just tried this out. Remarkably consistent. Thanks Scott.
@jonfreedman9069
@jonfreedman9069 Год назад
Great background (and correct history) Scott!
@dougadamsau
@dougadamsau Год назад
Great tip - saw something very similar on the Latitude 60º channel with Tomas and Jonathon a while back. Very simple and very effective.
@dainericcunningham7980
@dainericcunningham7980 Год назад
I'm pretty sure I watched you throw this shot during the Final 9 of the 2004 Grateful Disc at Edora Park! You rolled it to circle around a large-diameter evergreen tree and it circled it right to the basket...
@Two_Buck
@Two_Buck Год назад
Another great Scott Stokely video.
@ryosapien27
@ryosapien27 Год назад
This year i had been working on throwing a thumber roller as the flick roller right turning alternative but they require extreme angle and often cut right way too hard. Flick rollers have saved me countless strokes. This is literally genius. Thank you for sharing
@RC-cr7hg
@RC-cr7hg Год назад
That's the thing sometimes I find you a lot to digest but this is an excellent tip and I will use it thank you very much.
@ribbyjazz
@ribbyjazz Год назад
We had this discussion over naming of throws ultimate versus disc golf at ultimate practice a few months ago and texted John Schiller who explained the two scoobers just as you did. Thanks for getting into the weeds for your fellow disc dorks out there.
@raidonbay
@raidonbay Год назад
I like the idea and name of the Gear. You are so correct. Cut rolling is damn near impossible , but it looks cool when it happens. I'm going to try this. There's quite a few areas on my home course, The Sinks, when you hit a tree you are in the woods qnd that is the only option.
@robinmclean8779
@robinmclean8779 Год назад
Great Scott what a Great Shot. WILL add it to 'My Extended Bag of Tricks'. But I doubt the name will stick. Here's why: Most players throw for distance facing sideways with a power grip, but we putt facing forward with a fan grip. It's the same with rollers. With this shot, we are facing forward, with a fan grip, in order to throw an approach shot with accuracy. Therefore 'Approach Roller' is A. Accurate B. Easy to understand and C. Doesn't bog down in a "History of Frisbee Throws" debate😉. Thanks for posting. Can't wait to try it.
@alexanderjagell2963
@alexanderjagell2963 Год назад
Done this for years. Me and my friends call it the Seppo Paju roller, he is really good at them.
@erictriplett33
@erictriplett33 Год назад
It's one he uses to get out of The Trouble (4th type of shot in his vid) ... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2ejXCJvlb4M.html
@DiscGolfDigest
@DiscGolfDigest Год назад
Great stuff scott!
@tylerstoppelmoor8815
@tylerstoppelmoor8815 Год назад
Scott, could have used this a week ago. Had a situation that thas lined up for it perfectly. Now I know what to work on
@bvwol
@bvwol Год назад
Never seen the shot until this video and I've been playing frisbee since 1975. Familiar with air bounces and rollers but never saw or thought of this kind of shot. Looks excellent will be trying. Thanks for the video. Just subscribed.
@jakubsikyr6766
@jakubsikyr6766 Год назад
I definitely try it Scott! thank you! Gear shot sounds nice :)
@bepriceless
@bepriceless Год назад
Great shot. Thanks Scott.
@TheTechnatron
@TheTechnatron Год назад
Flipping the disc and using a pistol grip, works well for me on this shot, but always willing to learn something new. And I like the sound of Rolling Gear shot.
@GatorBrewer
@GatorBrewer Год назад
Many thanks! Great instruction and history of the game to boot!
@CharlesJWillard
@CharlesJWillard Год назад
I think whoever enjoys Scott's videos would also enjoy his book, Growing Up Disc Golf. Well written and it covers a subject we all love.
@rogerjones332
@rogerjones332 Год назад
Scoober + Roller = Scroller
@BryceRogers_
@BryceRogers_ Год назад
Love that. It also works with Scott + Roller... Aka the Gear... or the Jerry Curl lmao
@ronswoodturningshopandstuf5759
I have used this many times since taking your 8 hr seminar. My Son looked at me like I was a genius when it goes right around the tree and ends up by the basket.
@PWheat23
@PWheat23 Год назад
Cool. I'll be back field testing again soon after a rib injury about a month ago and will try this out. The best thing, I don't currently have a roller in my repertoire so there are no bad habits too break.
@brianbethea3069
@brianbethea3069 Год назад
7:23 I'd recognize Renaissance DGC anywhere, lol. I was there a few weeks ago right after the pro tour championship and heard that you were on the course somewhere. I was hoping to run into you at some point, but at least now I know what you were doing, haha!
@johnmatern8162
@johnmatern8162 Год назад
Mind blown by the simplicity! Going to try it tonight.
@skymanchronicles8936
@skymanchronicles8936 Год назад
Awesome technique!! Thanks so much. You see any snakes 🐍 in Australia? I’ll be watching. Picked it back up after 10 years. I love it again. Started in the late 80’s.
@aklevin
@aklevin Год назад
Came here for the disc golf tip, stayed for the flying disc history!
@chazsmith4351
@chazsmith4351 Год назад
Gear Up For Better roller Pro shots. Thanks for the video. Can't wait to get out and try it. Rollers are kind of intriguing to me and I really have a long ways to go to understand them. I'm wondering would it be better to use a stable or understable this for the shot and what would be the effect of using more of a mid-range disc that a butter like the berg.
@leafar4249
@leafar4249 Год назад
This is the one of the first throws you learn in discdog and it is just called a roller. It is such a simple and reliable shot. But if it wasn't for this video, I would never have thought of using it in disc golf as well. I can´t wait to give it a try.
@da324
@da324 Год назад
what is discdog?
@kaimcguire5086
@kaimcguire5086 Год назад
What’s discdog
@kennethsmith3168
@kennethsmith3168 Год назад
I learned this 15 years ago from ... who? ... Scott Stokely. I might use it a dozen times a year but, every time I do, my friends look at me like I'm a genius. I don't tell them that I learned it from a genius but, rather, it's just part of my skillset. ;-) Thanks Scotty!
@macafeez
@macafeez Год назад
Awesome, Scott! Jeff from Indy here that does the children's discs with CM from Z discs. This throw is perfect for step out of left brush with the right hand to roll approach in the woods. I was doing it all wrong; laying it down far too early and trying to 'flick' it down with the fingers under the rim. Thanks Brother, for all you do. Which would you recommend in Innova: Rhyno, XD or Roc?
@deciawaters468
@deciawaters468 Год назад
(commenting on wife's youtube account,ha)First tournament of 2023(1-29th), 18th hole, BH turnover ended up 15 ft in woods on rt side. I had a window & this is the only throw that would get me outta there.. I've practiced it so I thought "do it!" And I did. And it was flawless. Put me in putting range to save par. PERFECT ENDING TO FIRST 2023 EVENT!! Thanks Scott!
@rowan1043
@rowan1043 Год назад
I vote we call it... THE STROLLER (Stokely Roller)!!
@brentpatty1041
@brentpatty1041 Год назад
This is great! I kept trying the thumber roller but I always pops out of the hand wrong. This is going to be awesome! I'm going to call it the Stokely didn't invent this roller!
@mapgeek
@mapgeek Год назад
Thank you for clarifying the name. So few people know that history!
@eonslimafoxtrotgolf1759
@eonslimafoxtrotgolf1759 Год назад
I will try this out, TYVM.
@playdiscgolf1546
@playdiscgolf1546 Год назад
You are a legendary teacher of the game. Maybe the best right now
@playdiscgolf1546
@playdiscgolf1546 Год назад
I went and threw this immediately and the very first throw was perfect, I never even thought this was a possibility!!
@brannnnnnn
@brannnnnnn Год назад
great tip, I was trying to find an excuse to by a berg. Thoughts on the Pig for this? I don't own a lid style disc at this time.
@lxUn1c0
@lxUn1c0 Год назад
I'm gonna start calling it a Stroller. I dunno, just seems like a name that fits the shot.
@cutrolldiscgolf
@cutrolldiscgolf Год назад
Needed to see this 🙏
@johnstratton6207
@johnstratton6207 Год назад
I learned this at the seminar and it works. I’ve only used it once since then, but it works.
@scottc4076
@scottc4076 Год назад
Dude…Ima gunna practice this tomm…Never thought about this before… Thanks Scott…Nice name btw. 🤪🤪🤪
@jpantsniner
@jpantsniner Год назад
Wow...I've tried thumber rollers for that left to right approach roll a few times in the past. It wasn't great. Gonna have to give this doggie a try.
@Railer61
@Railer61 Год назад
I remember being shown this in the seminar. It's really cool especially when it works
@infinimetrical
@infinimetrical Год назад
Cut rolls are definitely a little tricky to properly measure the angle, pressure, pressure. However, they can happen. I did a solid cut roll on purpose on Sunday. Rhfh, Alpine Baobab. It had to be at about 150+ feet. I planted the Baobab at a 1 o clock angle to the left, and let it curl right to under the basket. I had plenty of witnesses as well. I'm excited to see your run of Baobabs!!! Many blessings to you, Scott!
@scotranney8456
@scotranney8456 Год назад
It's taken some work but I've been pulling this shot out while playing now and it's been great. One key, for me at least, is to be relaxed about the throw- the disc really zips out without any effort and if I try to put too much speed on it, the disc flips over to the right very fast. A little bit of left leaning angle, relaxed release, and I'm getting those 40-80' right finishing rollers without any effort. Now if I could only stop flaring my sidearms out whenever I'm trying to go more distance than an upshot...
@dream_discgolf
@dream_discgolf Год назад
Intrigued, will definitely give this a try. Is there an advantage to this over a thumber roller? i.e. Why not just flip the disc and throw a forehand roller?
@byv1966
@byv1966 Год назад
Cool approach, I will have to try it with my Berg. Scott, does the Berg spin the opposite way now that you are in Australia? Or is the Coriolis effect only work on toilet water?
@kimbohlin4383
@kimbohlin4383 Год назад
My name suggestion would be Scoobler. Smash the names together, and you get a fun name that flows off the tounge like a salmon swimming up a stream of water. Scoobler. Scoobler!
@mikew.762
@mikew.762 Год назад
I came up with a new type of roller the other day. The grip is similar to a thumber but your thumb is laying on the inside of the disc. You just throw it like a baseball and can get 300+ feet easy.
@nmkloster
@nmkloster Год назад
My friends tease about doing unnecessary scramble shots. I've had this shot in my bag for a long time :) I'd say there is a hand full of easy midrange/putter shot types everyone should know.
@ryosapien27
@ryosapien27 Год назад
When you get off the tee as “well” as i do there’s no such thing as an unnecessary scramble shot
@Grannyknockers
@Grannyknockers День назад
Just saw McBeth do a thumber roller in this situation. Why did I never think of either of these options? They seem so obvious
@seanhrivers
@seanhrivers Год назад
I love using my Berg to throw rollers so much more predictable than my other discs.
@mattfuller7663
@mattfuller7663 Год назад
Another great video Scott. What disc type would you recommend for this shot? Approach? Overstable? Understable?
@ScottStokelyDG
@ScottStokelyDG Год назад
Non beveled edge
@robertcasko281
@robertcasko281 Год назад
It will be the gear in my world. Thanks for the lesson.
@billherrera6386
@billherrera6386 Год назад
Holy moly it works. As a lefty it goes left. I was able to curve it around a tree next to the basket.
@doktarr
@doktarr Год назад
I just saw footage of Chris Dickerson using this shot, only he held the disc in a thumber grip. Still, essentially identical release angle and usage.
@dbetlock
@dbetlock Год назад
Heck of a time of year to "roll" this one out... oh yeah, no snow there!
@oliround
@oliround Год назад
Best disc golf teacher. Period.
@angeloarcidiacono4459
@angeloarcidiacono4459 Год назад
See you in Canberra next weekend mate.
@broderalias
@broderalias Год назад
Nice one!
@tommyg5095
@tommyg5095 Год назад
Feeding the basket with SCOOBER SNACKS...
@joem8496
@joem8496 Год назад
one more reason to get 1 more berg! thanks Scott!
@sonofisai
@sonofisai Год назад
Stokley roller it is... 🙂
@edgray92064
@edgray92064 Год назад
Does it matter how much stability or not in the disc?
@wisherb1
@wisherb1 Год назад
stokely roller sound great!
@sethpython8968
@sethpython8968 Год назад
This might be a silly idea but what if you threw a forehand roller, but flipped the disc in your hand?
@augustblanc9441
@augustblanc9441 Год назад
It's called a thumber roller, Chris Dickerson made a sick parkjob with one: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Wn9elveKpXM.html
@justinmcness
@justinmcness Год назад
Thumber Roller. Definitely a thing, but rarely used.
@caseysmith544
@caseysmith544 Год назад
@@justinmcness Also is a thumber roller with disc as if you are doing a thumber forehand shot but vertically.
@johnhall9900
@johnhall9900 Год назад
Chris Dickerson used one on Jomez this year, it was cool.
@nordicdiscgolferatrumble9430
Joel F is godtier at thumber rollers
@chrissprague4647
@chrissprague4647 Год назад
I love it!
@scotranney8456
@scotranney8456 Год назад
This is awesome. I do forehand rollers for upshots all the time but they all finish left (duh) so I've been trying to do them left handed, sidearm cut roll, or even a thumber roller (exercise in futility) to get them to finish right. I've never even seen or thought about doing the shot this way. Super "stoked" about trying this!
@bryanjenks3444
@bryanjenks3444 Год назад
Thumber roller also works nicely!
@jamesdenison5727
@jamesdenison5727 Год назад
This is cool, but my first thought here would be to do a thumber roller. Do you think there are advantages or disadvantages vs a thumber roller?
@tima5033
@tima5033 Год назад
I don’t think it matters much, might put a little more spin with the scooter roller, but if you can control your thumber roller then it achieves the same shape
@pigs6486
@pigs6486 Год назад
Drop the thumber straight down for sure
@Phyco8
@Phyco8 Год назад
I love the thumber roller. I find it’s a harder shot to release it past 90 deg to get my ideal roll. The forehand roller I can put 85 deg from flat and get the roll I want
@gardenstateflatlandb
@gardenstateflatlandb Год назад
Does it matter if it's a stable, neutral, or understable disc? Also, if I wanted to go left, could I hold the disc as if a forehand grip(to get the flight plate facing the opposite side), and give it the same type of release, and angle?
@rileymanderscheid9805
@rileymanderscheid9805 Год назад
Absolutely it matters how stable your Disc is. Imagine the letter C and you're at the bottom right of the C your intended shot path is following the rest of the C-stable disk. Imagine the letter S only the S IS STRETCHED vertically a bit so the turns are not quite that extreme. You're at bottom left, shooting ^ 'very understable disc is used. Letter J depending on which position you're shooting from? Requires different disc.
@dtwynn27
@dtwynn27 Год назад
Stokley Roller!!!
@BlackGoldVermont
@BlackGoldVermont Год назад
A little Gerry Geare Disc Golf history: Winners of Double Disc Court at World Overall Championships • 1978, WFC: Al Bonopane/Charlie Duvall, Laura Engel • 1979, WFC: Steve McLean/Gerry Geare, Teresa Gaman/Cyndi Birch • 1980, WFC Pasadena, CA: Gerry Geare/Mark Horn, Anne Campagna/Marie Braciale
@robertking7269
@robertking7269 Год назад
How about the Stokley Gear? Thanks for the ez throws and the history. "Toss a Stokley Gear at the pole it's magnetic"
@salommy
@salommy Год назад
Love me a thumber roller for this shot shape. Has more power potential too.
@AaronRogersDiscGolf
@AaronRogersDiscGolf Год назад
I vote for calling it the “Stokley Gear”!!!
@michaelstowers6706
@michaelstowers6706 Год назад
I just got done watching your video about the scoober roller. I don't think you need to change the name. Just identify it as a backhand scoober versus a side arm scoober. I think that could be an adequate correction cuz both shots are similar but thrown opposite ways
@FizzyP
@FizzyP Год назад
I'm more preoccupied by the number of Bergs you have. There's nothing on the shelves out here in Denver, CO!
@nordicdiscgolferatrumble9430
Very nice. What about required power/distance?
@ILoveAnimation2
@ILoveAnimation2 Год назад
For more distance just incorporate more body into the throw. Less distance = less power by just throwing with your arm. And if you want max distance, just add a run-up😊
@Bnate8
@Bnate8 Год назад
Hey Scott! Will you be competing at Masters Worlds in Flagstaff next year? I live in town and would be hyped to see you play
@danielschwagler6229
@danielschwagler6229 Год назад
Like the suggestion. I've thrown it before messing around instead of thumber rolling. Gear throw it is!
@Marc-Davis
@Marc-Davis Год назад
Can't you get a similar result by just throwing a forehand roller with a thumber grip? That seems to allow for more power while still getting the disc "facing" the correct way to finish right.
@ILoveAnimation2
@ILoveAnimation2 Год назад
But at least for me the disc comes out of the hand (releases) super awkwardly that way… and it never works😔
@MakersTeleMark
@MakersTeleMark Год назад
The scoober is forehand. The throw you are describing is either the old man's throw or the chicken wing. Been in use for 30+ years. An old buddy of mine throws it almost exclusively after he had his like 5th shoulder surgery. Saw him ace with it on an elevated basket in league once. Impressive accuracy.
@gnarwhalnoah
@gnarwhalnoah Год назад
Not a chicken wing either, at least not from my ultimate background (which I agree with Scott it makes disc golf more approachable if we rename some stuff to match ultimate). Chicken wing uses an upside down fan grip (4 fingers on top, thumb under the rim) but the throw is right side up because you throw with your palm down on your throwing arm side. The mechanics of the throw are very similar to a low arm angle baseball pitch, with obvious differences because you're holding a disc, but the result is something like a forehand, at least in terms of rotation direction and release point. I've never seen it be the best option in any game but I have seen players throw it quite far, it's a fun trick shot to have
@danielcockerspaniel
@danielcockerspaniel Год назад
First time playing with Fish I didn’t know he was a top pro and I watched him park hole 26 short tee to A pin at Seneca with a back hand cut roller. Insanely difficult shot.
@Austen.McDaniel
@Austen.McDaniel Год назад
In ultimate there's an old man's throw and chicken wing as well! Our Old man throw is a backhand throw where as a right-handed player you throw from right hip like a normal throw with backhand grip. Kinda looks like the bowling or baggo style disc golf putting motion. Our chicken wing throw (my favorite goofy throw) is done with index finger on rim, all fingers fanned out out on top with thumb curled under rim. The disc is flat like normal on release and the throw is straight arm throw from about shoulder height. Comes out with the same spin as FH. I use it to throw a FH spinning throw around a defender. Love the way everyone has different names for all kinds of throws. Crazy how many ways you can throw a disc usefully!
@MaximilianBerkmann
@MaximilianBerkmann Год назад
The chicken wing is entirely different; the closest DG throw to it is the pterodactyl.
@mcox8829
@mcox8829 Год назад
And I’m just like how do u have so many pumpkin orange discs?
@MaximilianBerkmann
@MaximilianBerkmann Год назад
So it's basically a thumber roller with a BH grip. I've never thought of that.
@jeremyward6602
@jeremyward6602 Год назад
Can you use a thumber grip for this and still get the same result?
@kimmomatikainen1843
@kimmomatikainen1843 Год назад
Of course you can use and that is what I have done for years. Thumber roller is probably more "vulnerable" about the angle. Angle of the disc is a bit weird in thumber rollers unless disc is very overstable, but it works too. I need to practice this other way as well. Looks easier to control. I have seen Seppo Paju doing this for years.
@Cad1900
@Cad1900 Год назад
Done. Gear it is!!!
@FearTheWeird300
@FearTheWeird300 Год назад
I nearly perfected the short cut rollers. I’ll definitely do thing for longer rollers
@pigs6486
@pigs6486 Год назад
I perfected a hyzer flip roller. Do your thing, all styles welcome
@thesubstitute
@thesubstitute Год назад
Love the history lessons
@pigs6486
@pigs6486 Год назад
That straight bill hat is your new style. Keep it...
@BlackGoldVermont
@BlackGoldVermont Год назад
I propose it be called the SS roller
@loganf6093
@loganf6093 Год назад
I just throw a thumber roller in stead of the wonky backhand roller if I need to.
@HeavyHouse
@HeavyHouse Год назад
Any reason not to do a thumber roller in that situation, outside of comfortability for some players? I'll use it on drivers as well, just a bit less stable ones than I would roll with a forehand grip, so a Zeus instead of a Force since I don't get as much snap.
@Emoilijanne
@Emoilijanne Год назад
Could be consistency?
@ILoveAnimation2
@ILoveAnimation2 Год назад
My thumber rollers just don’t work. The disc releases my hand very inconsistently and it just feels unnatural kinda…
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