3:38 the French RIGHT! :D Great Video my friend. Just stumbled upon this and am utterly surprised at the disparity between the quality of this Video and the amount of views it has.
Thank you! the reason I don't have many views is because I just started this channel and I don't have any sponsors or monetization yet so the algorithm will severely hamper how much exposure this video gets. If you want to help this channel continue, please share, share, and Share.! :)
@@milesl.2740 I'm happy you didn't add any comedy and try to be witty with the commentary. I don't know why those videos trend well, it makes them unwatchable.
My daughter just had her virtual class today and they spoke of the history but did not raise the important question, is it disrespectful in light of the actions of the brave Mexican warriors. Grateful you did!! Yes, keep up the great work!!!
Great job. I almost felt like I was in the battlefield. On a side note thou. The calvary charge was not ordered by Zaragoza, it was done by General Porfirio Díaz without permission although later he would be commended for it.
Some people warned Zaragoza that Gral. Porfirio Diaz used to make his own decisions, sometimes ignoring his superiors. And you're right: Gral Profirio charged without authorization from Gral Zaragoza, but he did the right thing.
In english there is a cuote of the general Zaragoza before the battle wich translates as: "They are the first soldiers in the world, but we are the first childrens of México, and they want to take away our homeland". At the end of the battle , he send a message to the president Benito Juárez : " The weapons of the nation has been covered in Glory"
@@danethancoronaperez8216 no lo dijo hay muchas cosas en la historia oficial que no es verdad pero que no le quita mérito a lo que se hizo a veces se trata de dar una historia muy romántica de las cosas como lo hacen los gringos con su historia, y nos contaminan y ponerle mas atencion a una frase que a las cosas más valiosas como la extrategia militar o saber si México ya superó su deficiencia en armamento o seguimos en las mismas
@@danethancoronaperez8216 pues me imagino que tu si estuviste ahí por eso lo reafirmas es más te reto a qué demuestres con verdaderas fuentes no la historia oficial es como el dicho de que los españoles con trecientos soldados conquistaron Tenochtitlan es una estupidez que se repite por dar la versión romántica de la historia
As a mexican i think its not wrong for americans to celebrate Cinco de mayo because we saved them from the french who would of aided the Confederate armies, but if we added the history of this war with the civil war, more Americans would celebrate it more respectfully and have more info on what they are celebrating
The French had not even the political will nor the military or economic means to hold their ground in Mexico, how would they have helped anyone in the American civil war? Also they had to consider the position of the British Government, which was against any intervention. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France_and_the_American_Civil_War#Government_policy Anyway, well done Mexicans!
We celebrate it in the idea of Mexico saving us from the success of the CSA and the French. Even after what we did to them (took the north half of the country)
As a Mexican American I find people with that point of view insulting. I have as much right to celebrate MY heritage as any Mexican from Mexico. And so do my children whos mother is a White American. Oh and point. No. The American civil war was Americans with political views against other Americans with different political views. As a Mexican I respect my people but mexico did not SAVE the US from anything. Ever. Least of all it's self. By the way happy Cinco De Mayo. Posted on May 5th.
After the French went on to occupy Mexico city they were told to get out of Mexico by the US government who didn't want a European power at their back door. By this time, the US had the best equipped army in the world, so the French left.
As an American who has lived in the Mexican culture and has a Mexican wife, what I have observed is in general you are correct in saying that most Americans have no idea what the holiday is about. But I have also observed that the Mexican people are not so easily offended by this so called culture appropriation thing they seem a little more tough than that and focus on more important issues.
We need to remove the term “cultural appropriation” and replace it with “cultural celebration”. For is that not what they are doing? In order for society to function, we must unite, not separate and isolate from different groups!
I knew of the story. Every year, I have a drink; tequila, if it's on hand, tonight it's whiskey, and reflect on what would the world be like, if France had a foothold in The Americas The French Revolution ended much differently than the American Revolution Thank you for the detail
cool freakin video... excellent video narration... naw let them party but they should know it was a Mexican Victory by a small Mexican army against the professional might of the French Empire... this battle gave hope to the Mexicans to resist and fight the french empire in Mexico...
Great video! The good news is that I found the video in the top 4 of RU-vid Search Results when I searched for "Battle of Puebla." I hope you more success with your future videos. I just subscribed.
Thank you for this video, one important thing is that “America” starts at the tip of Chile and goes all the way up to Canada. This is why there is a North America and a South America. The US is the United States of America, USA or US, and Not meaning that the US is solely America as many throughout the years whether in literature, movies, social media, word of mouth, and made it a habit of saying, have Twisted it to be known as and called “America”. If you have or plan to make a video about the 1914 Mexican Revolution in Zacatecas Mexico I’d LOVE to watch it!! Francisco “Pancho” Villa and 81 of his Dorados de Villa fought against 12,000 Mexican Army Soldiers preventing them from invading and destroying the City of Zacatecas. Both my paternal Great Uncle and my maternal Grandfather had major roles during that Revolution. Villa and 7 of his remaining men, my Great Uncle included, surviving the battle defeated the Mexican Army. So Proud…
I feel it's important if one is to celebrate another country's holiday or historical event like Cinco De Mayo or Saint Patrick's Day they should know what its all about to have a better appreciation of them♡
Yeah, St Patty and 5 de Mayo, are both drinking holidays, nothing more. The 5th of May in Mexico comes and goes like any other day. Back in 2016, Trump was trying to make himself look smart and said that May 5th was a "Latin American holiday." So the Docs I worked with at the time were all very impressed with what he had said, so one of my fellow nurses asked me about it and I told her it was a Mexican holiday, not a "Latino American one." Then my friend turned to the Docs and said, "TOLD YA!" lol
Thank you!!!! Great treatment of an important piece of history that needs more coverage! As a middle school history teacher, I'm going to use this in my classes!!! Any chance you can give treatment to other battles that aren't traditionally covered and need to be? Like the Council House Fight or the Battle of Plum Creek and the many other Native American battles glossed over in our textbooks?
Thank you for mentioning it! While my next video will be on the battle of Yorktown I'm thinking of making one about Bull Run. Currently I am still researching Native history but thank you for suggesting. I have never heard of those battles so I'll look into it!
Please research the “maroons” who were black that helped beat the French… there’s several other videos that mention them being a major part in that war.. also there is video of Mexicans dressing in black face during the celebration but this video doesn’t mention it… I wonder why?
So I wanted to learn how this battle played out visually. I am about to play the Battle of Puebla from GMTs “Battles with Gringos” game. Thank you for this video. Excellent animation, effects and music. As an American I respect the bravery of the Mexican people and this amazing history. Now I’ll always think of this battle every Cinco de Mayo 🔥 also no it’s not disrespectful, imitation is the greatest form of flattery. It’s all love not mockery
There were also black people who contributed to this war. They were runaway slaves who found freedom in Mexico, some even after fighting in the battle of Pueblo. So, we also have a right to celebrate May 5th.
The American celebration of May 5 is originally related to the fact that the French Empire wishes to have a foothold in the Americas and eventually oppose or control American power. America was also occupied by the cession conflict and could not address the problem of a European power setting foot on the American continent, so the battle of Puebla, and the eventual expulsion of the French from the continent was also cause for celebration for them.
I, as a mexican, don't think it is entirely wrong for the USA to celebrate it, but it is SOO disrespectful to make cultural apropiation and not even know what the heck are they celebrating They think it's out independence, when our independence was on August 1821 (when it became official, it was already stablished in February of the same year but it had no recognition at all, in August it was recognized by the Virrey Juan O'Donoju), and disguising as mexicans is disrespectful to those who are actually mexican and those who fought to defend the country
Really great video, I like how you incorporated the paintings into the battle, really helped get a picture- and with real smooth transitions! I also appreciate the modern tidbit about how gringos celebrate the battle. This channel deserves to be seen more
Damn bro! This video was fantastic! I have to say that as an American that its quite disrespectful for Americans to essentially mock Mexican history as the vast majority of Americans think Cinco de Mayo is just an excuse to wear silly costumes and get intoxicated. I assure you that most Americans think that Cinco de Mayo marks Mexico's day of independence. I hate to say this but Americans have a deep history of racism and I think they take every opportunity to mock people of other cultural backgrounds. But as I said, great job with your presentation! Cheers!
Great video. Happy Cinco de Mayo. 1st thing, yes, all people should understand what the holiday comes from and the battle. Definitely, if you think its Mexican Independence Day you are wrong, if you don't care what it means that is wrong, and if you just its too act Mexican for a day thats dumb too. OK 2nd thing, yes this is a Mexican holiday, a Mexican historical moment. BUT it is also an American holiday, wait hear me out here. Because people in Mexico outside the city of Puebla largely don't celebrate this day I have been informed. One of the first documented celebrations of the battle was of Mexican gold miners up in the hills above Sacramento Northern California in the Gold Rush. Who celebrated after they heard news of the battle which became a Mexican-Northern California tradition afterward. Where I am from, San Jose California, Cinco De Mayo is a BIG DEAL. The streets are packed, mostly with Chicano, Mexican Americans. Rolling their cars down the streets, Mexican flags everywhere, parades, food, parties. It is not appropriated culture at all. It "IS THE CULTURE" there. 3rd point. So through this Mexican pride coming from California initially I believe it spread into overall Mexican American and then American culture as a whole. To become a day to celebrate Mexican Culture, not a battle, or country of Mexico, or any of that. Like a Mexican Culture Day which I am totally cool with. It is one of my favorite holidays for this reason and I been to some great celebrations up and down the West Coast in California and Oregon filled with Mexican people and others alike taking part in the revelry. 4th point. In a lot of ways it is just like St. Patrick's Day. Initially in Ireland, it was a Catholic Saints day where you go to church. The Patron Saint who brought Catholicism to Ireland in ancient times which is a really interesting story actually from about the year 400-500AD. Irish, an immigrant group to America (just like Mexicans) brought it to USA where the first St. Pat's parade was in NYC in the 1880s or something. Then it blew up as a huge celebration of Irish culture, far from the original meaning, and even Ireland it self got in on the craziness and adopted their own party for it, Dublin especially. Both, a beautiful interesting historical story in Mexico and Ireland. Adopted by the USA and immigrants from those countries. The beer companies, the liquor companies, the bars and restaurants look at them as a money maker which is fine. Its fun. Sure some cultural appropriation is a little out of line and dumb drunks go crazy. But it is what it is. People should be respectful, enjoy the history, but both May 5th and March 17th are amazing celebrations of the Mexican and Irish culture respectively. 2 groups of people that make the USA what it is. And they are 2 of my favorite holidays.
Pero la batalla fue librada por mexicanos no importa quien la aya celebrado primero o si en México no es tan popular no significa que no conozcamos nuestra historia siempre recuerdo y agradezco el sacrificio de mis antepasados que dieron su vida por mi país México
Todo Bien. Well, you can know 10 million or more proud people with Mexican ancestors living in California celebrate with extreme passion every single year. As do I because of growing up around that celebration, even though I am puro blanco gringo. LoL. @@RamiroRamirez-tv1eq
Very informative video and very well presented. However I'm a bit insulted and ashamed of he last question and the comments iv read today. I'm an Mexican born in America. Never have I seen my culture disrespect by white americans. Ever. Mexicans celebrate the same way whites do. With good food and good drinks. No one kneels down in silent reverence. And iv always been proud that my people did not cry and moan about the white man appropriating our culture or keeping us down the way other minorities do. Mexicans are strong and proud and don't sit and cry like other races about how bad the white boogie man is. All you mexicans saying they agree with that hate fueling crap at the end of this video need to find your pride and not swallow that crap.
Well done! This is both informative and balanced, and there’s even a small section at the end about how Cinco de Mayo has been appropriated by Americans. I think the answer to your question depends on who you’re asking. It’s also a reflection of America’s continuing cultural predominance - some would argue, hegemony - around the world. Both Mexico and Canada have had to struggle with being in the shadows of their larger and wealthier nation for a long time, and, understandably, this has led to a certain level of resentment, within those countries, towards the “arrogance”’ of “los yanquis,” a feeling many in Hawai’i also share towards the “haoles.” But a lot of this stems from ignorance, from the cultural complacency that comes from being a global superpower....at least up till now. The world is changing, however, and “los americanos” are learning, slowly and painfully but surely, that they need to understand the world, on its terms, not their own. Mahalo for helping to further along this journey and promote the cultural understanding that Americans badly need in this day and age. This is an example of History done right. Aloha 😊❤️🇺🇸🇲🇽🤙🏼
Brother I am mexican and it is not offensive to us in fact its actually cool to see some mexican ponchos and Sombreros or mexican food in a country that isn't mexico so having 5 de mayo and people celebrating it in the US isn't bad
Found it on Reddit, so word is getting out. Great documentary, you should follow up continuing the history of this war resisting invasion, I'm interested now. France thought since the US was busy trying to kill itself, it was a good time for a land grab. The US couldn't intervene until the end of the Civil War, then Grant immediately ordered an army to the Rio Grande getting ready to eject the French and probably help the Mexicans do it. But the Mexicans at least the Liberal side which was most of the country by then had a good fight going on, helped along by Juárez partisans "capturing" a good sized American arsenal in Ciudad Juárez opposite El Paso. As things developed eventually the US formation packed it up and went home, after 4 years of Civil War they had no desire to fight again.
While I usually think that "to appropriate is to appreciate," in the case of Cinco De Mayo, I don't believe any disrespect to the brave warriors who won the Battle of Puebla is intended. Most Americans think it is just a celebration of Mexican Heritage or Mexico's Independence Day. I'm an American of European ancestry (for which I make no apology and feel no shame), and until I learned of General Ignacio Zaragosa from the website BADASS OF THE WEEK and the movie Cinco De Mayo La Battala was made available to watch, I didn't know for sure what the day was about. I saw no reason to make a big deal about it until then. Since then, I have tried to watch that movie and remember how Mexico saved itself AND the United States that day in 1862. I think of the day as a commemoration more than a celebration, like Antietam, Gettysburg, or Lexington and Concord. Battles are to be remembered, along with the men (winners and losers) who fought and died for their respective causes, countries, families, and, in the end, for each other.
Thank you for the video. And, thank you for asking the respect question. Sadly, I have found that American holidays and traditions show utter disregard for the history. We have to take it upon ourselves to learn the truth behind the lies and omissions.
This was a wild time for north america, first thr 1812 war then the mexican american war then the civil war and the french invasion in Mexico at the same time. Crazy century
I visit Mexico here and there, I ask my family that I stay with out there if we actually dance around a Sombrero, they were like yup!!!!😂😂😂 I'm like bruh!!! -_-
This battle saved the USA the intention of France was to establish an empire in Mexico and ally with the Confederate States of America. If Mexico had lost that day, Napoleon in less than 3 months would have conquered the country and would be sending troops through Texas to attack the northern states. The victory at Puebla gave Lincoln 1 year to win the American Civil War and then support Mexico in driving France out of North America. Currently the american people celebrate that day even more than the mexicans, even many people confuse it with the independence of Mexico.
Good luck to the French had they tried to fight the Confederacy, it was so easy for the Northern Invaders, freeing the slaves was an afterthought for Lincoln. Support of slavery was crumbling in the South--non-slave owners could see it was wrong, despite the brainwashing of racism.
Yes,much to celebrate because the Mexicans ended the French takeover of Mexico by themselves.It should. E kept in mind that 75,000 U S troops were T the Rio Grande river & ready to intervene,if necessary.
General Zaragoza was actually a Tejano. His family moved to the south side of the rio grande after the Americans took over Texas for good when he was still a child.
Puebla is a mountain top city surrounded by mountain volcanoes that are not active at this time. According to a Pueblano, a person born and living in Puebla, informed me that an unexpected rain storm prevented the soldiers on both sides to be unable to load their muskets which used gun powder. In came the indigenous soldiers who had machetes and were experienced in hand to hand combat to overcome the French army. You state that the battle was not a decisive win but some would say that it changed the course and the trajectory of the battle for independence.
I just noticed that the battle looks similar to the Alamo. The Mexican commander was the son of Juan Seguin who was one of the fathers of Texas independence.
I have a question I don't recall you mentioning general portfolio Diaz or the 500 tejanos in the Battle of Pueblo or major portfolio Zamora look all that up and let me know what you think now cuz major portfolio Zamora with my great great grandfather
Superb link to History 💙 Courage and determination from Generals Zaragoza and Porfiro Diaz 💫 1862 PUEBLA IS TO BE CELEBRATED 💛 Napoleon the 111 was defeated. Liberty 🗽 and freedom for 🇲🇽
May I ask how did you animate this compared to your last video? Last time you use google slides, but here the animation no longer has a stop-motion feel to it.
7:50 Cinco de mayo is a mostly american holiday, the only place in Mexico that really celebrates is the city of Puebla, and we don’t care about cultural appropriation, just have fun
Most Mexicans in the US don't have a clue about the 5th of May. This video did not mention the indigenous people who also fought in the Battle of Puebla!
As strange as it may seem, the first celebrations of the victory on Cinco de Mayo were initiated in California by Mexicans who were now citizens of the United States. Kinda' bizarre, but true.
It was a celebration in America when it happened we had just fought against a monarchy and won here and now Mexico was as well nothing wrong with it at all it’s weird to say we when at that time part of my family was still in Mexico.
Wow what an amazing video, In my opinion, i believe it is disrespectful. The mexican men in the army fought for their lives, and that needs to be hear by all.
0:50 French Army didn't "plough" trhough Mexican territory from Campeche. They landed directly in Veracruz in 1862 (along with Spanish and British fleets) and then advanced towards Puebla. The French took Campeche only in 1864 after a brief naval bombardment.
Yes, but the French regrouped in Córdoba, Veracruz, and later attacked more points in Mexico. If Zaragoza had sent a massive attack against the defeated French, they would not have regrouped and the war would have ended there, however Republican Mexico won the war. Free Mexico won 200 battles against the French, if we count the logs of General Escobedo, Díaz and Colonel Melendez. And of course there were clashes, but in Tabasco, Oaxaca and Guerrero, where the Mexicans took many French, Algerian, Austrian and Belgian prisoners.
@@brunosamuraipictures890 You misunderstood my comment; this video mentions an initial French campaign from Campeche, which actually didn't ever happened. It seems you rather refer to the battle of Puebla and afterwards. You are also wrong about some issues. E.g. the Mexican Army DID attack the retiring French, but they repulsed the Mexicans in a mountainous range and no further attemps were made. The Mexican republicans DID NOT WIN THE WAR over the French troops. Not a single major or decisive battle was lost by the French, only fringe combats (as La Carbonera) and certainly they didn't number "200", but a handful. Napoleon III withdrew French military support to Emperor Maximilian, who hadn't grow himself a powerful army. Only then the Republicans got the upper hand against the Mexican Conservatives... with weapons supplied by the USA.
@@danrooc The United States intervened when the war was practically at a standstill and the French began to feel it in their finances, they also did not do much, all that French defeat was made with more than 32,000 Mexicans who gave their lives to make it possible, what you are trying to do is downplay the superhuman effort made by a country torn apart by war since its independence, that war should not have lasted 6 years, it should have lasted less than a year. while france was completely defeated 3 years later by prussia in less than a year, pffff hahahahahahaha
@@chrisaustin7644 *WRONG.* Make a proper reading of my comment: this video points out a French campaign ALL ACROSS Mexico from the southeast State of Campeche; THAT SIMPLY DID NOT HAPPEN. What kind of "downplay" do you see in such FACT? More than a war between France and Mexico it was a war AMONGST MEXICANS in which France took part. It was rather a continuation of the preceding civil war, known as "Three years war" or "Reforma" war, quite a bloody and cruel one. At the time, the French Army had been victorious in its campaings worldwide (Crimea, Indochina, China, North Africa, Italy) defeating powers as Russia and Austria. Make no mistakes: Prussia proved to be more than a match for France in 1870-71 and Mexicans indeed put a fight during the 1860's; yet Mexico was no Prussia. The US didn't "intervene"; it SUPPORTED Juarez's government with weapons once its own Civil War was over. The US made clear to Napoleon III they henceforth would enforce the Monroe Doctrine. This along the growing power of Prussia and the stagnant situation in Mexico were the major causes for Napoleon III to withdraw his troops. From then on it was up to the Mexican II Empire to stand by its own means.
@@danrooc They did not intervene directly but they did intervene indirectly because they supported with arms, but in any case that did not really change anything, what changed the balance was the withdrawal of the French troops in Mexico because of how unsustainable it was, they entered due to what was He says that it is a debt (really it was to stop the American expansion and fulfill Napoleon III's megalomaniac dream of surpassing his uncle) of 2 million francs and he ended up with 200 million. besides the Prussian threat None of the wars that France fought before the invasion of Mexico was really long, Mexico was the only country that resisted the French for so long at that time, the others were defeated, much more merit for Mexico. Also, I never talked about the alleged invasion of Campeche, that doesn't interest me, and it never happened, that was simply a mistake by the creator of the video. pfff france defeated the main mexican army and that did not make mexico surrender and they continued with the guerrilla, very different from france with prussia not only did they have this war, literally mexico did not have a single year of peace on its borders since independence General Long's Expedition Spanish attempts at reconquest in Mexico Comanche-Mexico Wars Apaches-Mexico War Yaqui War Navajo Wars Rebellion of Felipe de la Garza Casa Mata Plan Revolution Iturbidist rebellions: Revolution of Saint Michael the Great Texas Iturbidista Rebellion Iturbidista Uprising of Tepic Guadalajara Rebellion Puebla Rebellion Oaxacan Rebellion Queretaro Revolt Uprising in Guadalajara Civil wars of the Masonic lodges and coups in Mexico (1824-1834): Montano Plan Nicolas Bravo Rebellion Veracruz Rebellion (1827) Mutiny of the Acordada Battle of Tulancingo Rebellion of the Reserve Army and Protector of the Constitution and Laws Rebellion of Vicente Guerrero Battle of Texca Battle of Chilpancingo Battle of Venta Vieja Fredonian Rebellion Zacatecas Rebellion Texas War of Independence Cakes war Wed Expedition Tabasco Rebellion (Federalist Revolution) Rebellion of the Republic of the Rio Grande Invasion of the Republic of Yucatan American intervention in Mexico caste war Expedition of Gaston de Raousset-Boulbon William Walker Expedition to Baja California and Sonora Reform War Curtain Wars With everything and the wars, Mexico WON, it's not about winning battles, it's about winning wars and that's the only thing that matters in the end.
We celebrate our warriors in Puebla thats all about they give us liberty and proud thats why mexicans are tought warriors! Our ancestors are brave people! Feliz 5 de mayo! Thanks to the US people celebrate our victory! Who want tequila shots?????
Yes, I think it’s disrespectful for the brave Mexicans who died in the battle they were Patriots. Us Americans will use the holiday to drink margaritas.
Is it disrespectful for foreigners to celebrate your success? From Greece, one of the most culturally appropriated tribes in the world, with love. I like what you did with the architecture in DC, the Romans liked it too.
Not bad but check the Spanish pronunciation of the general (so funny to hear the name of the Mexican general like you do). Puebla is not a desert city ( less than Dallas or Houston) except for during the dry season 3 out of 12 months)
Wait… I’ve seen several other videos about the maroons who were black defeating the French.. the video also shows Mexicans dressed in black face during their celebration …
English Translation: Happy 170th Anniversary of the Fifth of May, People of Mexico! Spanish Translation: Feliz Cinco de Mayo, Gente de Mexico! French Translation: Joyeux Cinco de Mai, Les habitants du Mexique! Ukranian Translation: З 170-річчям Сінко-де-Майо, народ Мексики! Taiwanese Translation: 墨西哥人民,五月五日節 170 週年快樂! Korean Translation: 멕시코 국민 여러분, 마요네즈의 친코 탄생 170주년을 축하합니다! Japanese Translation: メキシコの人々、メイヨーのシンコの170周年おめでとう! (Mekishiko no hito 々, Meiyō no shinko no 170-shūnen omedetō!)
Oh it’s super disrespectful. It would be like Mexico celebrating the 4th of July just to get drunk and make money on it without understanding why it’s such an important date to America
Except Cinco de Mayo is not our independence day. I like people celebrating my country whether they know the full story or not. Let us all come together and have a drink!
AMERICA .?? es un continente 4th of july sinónimo de asesinatos ,robo y despojo de tierras y territorio , invasiones , violaciones , esclavitud , crímenes de gerra,, en la escuela no les enseñan eso porque les da vergüenza como se fundo este país ..las estrellas y las barras representan violaciones invasión ,asesinatos ,robo persecución, Esclavitud, crímenes de gerra .!!!Mexico tiene memoria y no olvida!!!Españoles, ESTADO UNIDENSES!!, franceses , japoneses..
First of all, I've seen many Mexican people (including one in this very own comment section) say it's not disrespectful, just because you think it is doesn't mean you speak for the entire Mexican population. Second of all no one would care if Mexicans celebrated 4th of July, but why would they? It wasn't the year their country was founded. But even if they did celebrate I could say that the majority of Americans would not give a shit.