I love my Stormcast Eternals. I started in the hobby February 2021 using the painting side of the hobby as a means to help with my combat PTSD. The painting is very calming for my mind. I started out with the box of 3 liberators with paints and brush and the box of 3 Sequitors with paints and brush from my FLGS. I now own over 15000 points worth of Stormcast! I was also invited to join our local gaming group. I absolutely love everything about the Stormcast, the models, the lore…….everything ⚡️⚡️. I have also just started painting my Knight Draconis, what an amazing sculpt. My preferred sub faction is the Hammers of Sigmar. I am a huge lore nerd, so the hammers are for me. I also love their paint scheme and heraldry 😻⚡️. Thanks for all the great videos.
@@tuffn00gies I wish I would have had you as a friend to split the dominion box early this year with! I won't say I didn't have a load of fun painting Ol' Sigmars dementia patients but I really got the box for 3 reasons. 1. I found it incredibly cheap from eBay where a scalper had over 10 boxes and couldn't shift them as there were so many on there for sale. 2. I collect goblins and thought maybe I could do some allies for my GITZ 3. I needed the core rulebook as I despise trying to read rules off my phone or even my Kindle. I just prefer physical copies of books.
Bro, using the models to hyperfixate and relax me from post traumatic stress. I’m happy to know someone else uses this therapeutic hobby as well. Also, it’s cheaper than traditional therapy
The worst army to get into for either AOS or 40k is the army you pick only on the basis that they are doing well at the time, collect what you love be it the cool models or the fluff and you will always be happy
I think the playstyle is overlooked often by comments like this. Clearly you care much more about the painting part which is completely fine, however some people prefer the gaming part of it, in which case it's best you pick an army that fits your playstyle. Can be anything from ranged heavy, melee focussed, elite, horde, having lots of options to pick from, speed, psychic powers etc.
@@taserrr I'm sure you have a point but would you still play an army constantly that you really didn't like the models? I would have more fun only winning like 1 out of 10 games with the models I love them constantly chasing the flavor of the month. As far as play style, sure your going to have more fun running something that your naturally drawn to . I would say modern 40k and to a lesser extent AOS lets you do a lot of things with your armies now though and while true many armies have their specialty they are hardly the one trick ponies they once were. I got lucky in finding armies I love not only for their looks, fluff, but also play style I guess.
@@josephskiles Well each person is different, just like I said some people prefer the gaming side and to them army identity and playstyle is more important. Good thing there's so many factions and subfactions that basically every playstyle offers multiple army choices. Space marines have chapters for every playstyle except for horde but astra militarum fulfills that role. Now I've yet to play a game because I got into the hobby just as corona started but I play adeptus mechanicus and I know I'm going to enjoy the shooting side of the army. Imagine if I didn't enjoy that, playing them would feel horrible, you can't make a melee focussed ad mech army it simply doesn't work. Nor can you go for psycher focussed, it's main strengths is they're probably the best shooting army out there and that's what I will enjoy based on how I like to play in videogames like total war etc. That being said, I also love the fluff and they connect with me, I've read a book about them too however if they'd be a melee faction I wouldn't have picked them up.
@@taserrr I'm in the same boat. I was always a D&D player but WOTC finally pushed me too far with all their crap so after wanting to check out this Warhammer thing for so long I finally pulled the trigger last year and started building armies for both AOS and 40k. I haven't got to play myself yet but I chalk that more up to wanting to really know the rules to the best of my abilities so I'm not constantly flipping through the books for basic info. At first I started a sisters army because I got the deamonifuge from a used book sale at the local library, and while I still do love them when I discovered the Night Lords everything about them was just a perfect fit for me ( just like when I first saw the night goblins back in the 90's). I understand what your saying about you toaster enthusiasts but couldn't you make a viable soup list that is more melee focused if you wanted? I understand that wouldn't be a pure admech army then but it still would be possible I think. I know people always assume if they are going up against world eaters they will be having to worry about melee but I've seen a number of lists that surprise people by pulling out some decent ranged attacks. I have read time and time again where pro tourney players do unconventional things with their lists and while it may not be turning the wargaming world on it's head they still pull out a lot of W's because they know the game and all of it's ins and outs. I'm not saying they can constantly pull out wins using any rando list or even make every army out there into a competitive list with any play style. I am saying there are ways to adapt most of the armies ( or more so than AOS anyhow) into a play style you want if you don't mind your win rate not being great.
@@josephskiles Yeah it's true you can make a melee focussed toaster list, but you'd have to run a specific forge world and very specific units whilst you can't use most characters and other units. Also, a melee list wouldn't work out very well because the army is not very durable, especially most of it's melee units like electro priests have no durability. I guess it's technically possible to build a full on melee focussed list but there's only 3 units that would work, the electro priests variants, the sicarians and the dragoon. Regardless I don't think anybody would ever make a melee ad mech list that isn't a meme, they're just not made for that which is completely fine by me. And yes you can soup but at that point it's no longer about Ad mech, you're not really playing that faction and their identity, you'd be playing space marines with some ad mech in it :D Yeah sister models look amazing too, I enjoy their lore. They have this battleship cathedral that flies over the planet just to play choir music and chants over the battlefield. But I don't think I'd enjoy their playstyle being quite close ranged focussed and not having any cool monsters or vehicles, I don't like most of their vehicles they're too... box-y?
As long as you’re not playing in a competitive meta, and you enjoy painting hordes of flesh and fur, I’ve found collecting, painting and playing with the Beasts of Chaos very enjoyable.
Personally, I think Flesh Eater Courts are up there on ease of collection. Decent army strength, very cheap to make a full army. Small range, but everything is usable and the faction can be played in a multitude of different ways. All of those options lean on heavy aggressive play, but how you go about this overarching strategy is very customisable .
For the slaanesh start collecting if you go exalted chariot, 10 daemonettes and 5 seekers it comes out at 545, or if you go 1 Herald, 10 daemonettes, 5 seekers, 1 seeker chariot and 1 hellflayer it comes out at 705
For me it made some sense as I have a emperor's children army in 40k and I love some of the models, so the crossover value is a benefit, but probably not for everyone.
Brand new UK player here - thanks for much for this video (and the breakdown of the individual factions videos) - most helpful videos on this platform regarding AoS. Keep up the good work!
At first when i saw the newest Orruks look for the Kruleboyz, I did kinda go "what happen to the Orky look? Why are they skinny now?" It is until someone i know of who was in the hobby for 30 years, told me that the Kruleboyz are references to the old Orc (with a "c") in Oldhammer. When i see the reference, I started building the Kruleboyz army immediately, now i'm just hooked with the Kruleboyz.
I like that you included sons of behemat. When I stated just recently I was looking for a low model count army and the two I came down to was Ogor mawtribes or troggoths. I ended up going with troggoths because I wanted to use some magic/shooting (so I could learn all phases of the game) I honestly had no Idea sons of behemat existed before I chose my army because no one listed them in videos like this. Having to potentially only paint 6 models is very attractive for someone who isn’t confident in their ability to paint well at a fast pace.
If I may make a suggestion on Troggs ( being a lover of all things goblin and troll), if you go with any fellwater Troggs a really easy way to paint them that looks good is doing a zenithal prime job with rattle cans then use plague bearer flesh contrast paint for their skin. I used this on my Trogg Boss, my fellwaters, and all the Kruleboyz in the dominion set with great results. I got a marshcrawla sloggy recently and will probably try it on it as well. Welcome to gobbos ( at least as far as the Troggs go), consider getting a Hag, I had more fun painting/kitbashing her than any other model I own I think. Good luck!
@@mahastep I'll have to see if I have some somewhere. I'm in the process of moving and have all of my models individually bubble wrapped ( that took forever). Honestly I'm not that great a painter but with contrast paint you don't really have to be
@@mahastep I do know I have a bunch of photos of my models on the discord server for the RU-vid channel " The Gallant Goblin", I'll see if I can send you a link to that
Late to party but I don't think you missed out, choosing SoB means you can build an army quick but they're not a good entry into the hobby cause you hardly play the game tactics/abilities wise
I started with Gitz and struggled. I made so many mistakes and they are not forgiving models. Variations don’t look great and tiny details on a lot of things. SE was next and I did a good job but they were super boring. So much metallic. Seraphon was where I finally felt at home. Some of the Models look silly but they are easy to pain. Scales allow for so much variation and monsters allow for so much brush space. Really proud of them!
I jumped into Sigmar by picking Cities of Sigmar as my first army, I did a lot of research and I knew full well what I was getting into when I signed up to start a Cities of Sigmar army, minimum 40 infantry for battleline, a few different battle mages, I just finished 6 demigryph knights and now its on the cellestial hurricanum. With a few games under my belt i've really realized what the heavy hitters are in the army. But yea from a hobbying standpoint its basically like making an imperial guard army. Pros are the average unit of low tier infantry costs like 30 USD, whereas they cost 50-60 for other factions, you can get a celestial hurricanum and make two battlemages out of it as well. STEAM TANK Cons - Sculpts are outdated for the infantry, though I think things like the Celestial Hurricanum, Demigryph knights, General on Griffin, and Steam tank have held up wonderfully and are amazing models. I literally can't imagine creating any other faction at this point, I love these dumb models so much it really was rule of cool for me over competitiveness, and I was willing to suffer the online ordering and old model sculpts to do it.
The best three armies in my oppinion: -skaven -Skaventide -The skittering ratmans The top 3 worst armies in my oppinion: -the hated * poster-things -the pointy ear-things -and every other faction-thing *(hated from a lore perspective)
Interesting! You deny the existence of the faction, and yet, You seem to know more than me-me. After-all I never mentioned that they dwell beneath us🙃. What secrets does man-thing hide-hide
Got a bit interested in Warhammer back when I was a Kid (6th Edition of Warhammer Fantasy) stopped because I was a little kid without a Job. Total War: Warhammer 1 & 2 came out and I started looking back into what GW has done since I left... apparently the Old Fantasy world got nuked by the Warpstone Moon and a whole new Fantasy game has come out to replace it: AoS. With many cool looking models for practically all the old factions from Fantasy. Unfortunately, the Army I want to use, the Lizardm- I mean Seraphon seems to have barely changed, all the non-Slann characters are gone yet their models are still used. The core units (Saurus, Skinks and Kroxigors) look almost identical to the models from 2003. Lord Kroak seems to be the only AoS model for them that looks comparable (quality-wise) to the other factions of AoS. Overall, I'll be waiting (eagerly) for the Seraphon to get updated to AoS model standards before coming back to the Tabletop.
As much as I love OBR they probably deserve a spot on worst armies to get started with. They play an entirely different game than the other game's factions making learning what other armies do a little bit harder and also the inability to use many powerful generic command abilities hurts. They also still lack a starter box & without Nagash aren't a very powerful army.
I litterly just started the game today and they were the army i chose. Seemed pretty cheap for my full 2000 pt army. Im just dreading painting them (my first models ive had to paint)
I’m just about to start my AoS journey. I played a little bit of Fantasy when I was a kid, but I was really too young to fully get the most out of the hobby. I played Bretonnians and then Dwarfs for a bit. I’ve really enjoyed your content for beginners - especially your run downs of each of the factions. So I’ve spent a lot of time looking at them all. I’ve narrowed it down to Fyreslayers or Ogre Mawtribes. I’ve always loved dwarfs in fantasy literature which made the Fyreslayers hard to pass up! But the Orgres look so much fun - and I’ve taken on board perspectives in them being a good starter army with a good Start Collecting Box. I’d love some help deciding between the two, as I keep flip-flopping! Thanks!!
So my advice. Fyreslayers are about to get an update and have some great modes but a limited range. Ogors are decent and a really fun army that plays simple Warhammer, almost the best army to start with in Warhammer I think. Both are in a good position atm and I feel if you have that love for Dwarves/Duardin then grab the Fyreslayers Battletome that goes on preorder this weekend.
@@CinderfallGaming Thank you very much for your reply and advice!! I have to agree that the lure of the dwarfs is likely too much for me to turn down! Thanks again!!
Nice video! Well done, I think khorne is another difficult starter army, no shooting, lots of summons, and a lot of old but surprisingly expensive models (skullcrushers, warriors, flesh hounds etc)
I fell backwards in to AoS from painting, I started my ogor army just because I really liked the look of the stone horns and thunder tusks. They're still some of my favorite models in the game. I've also picked up enough squigs to play 1,000 points of them, so it's good to see I've got both ends of the spectrum covered.
I'm getting in to the hobby and I really like the look and lore of the fyreslayers but I'm not finding a ton of info on how easy they are as a beginner. I also like the ogors but it seems that their beefier models are in less supply
Just starting Aos but ive nose dived straight into Skaven loved the lore and idea of them for yrs and have always been put off by RU-vidrs and metal minis but the Vanguard box set was lovely to build currently only painted four models for skaven but i definitely have found them easier to paint and build up the box than most 40k armies
The things with Sons of Behemat is that playing them is not really playing the same game as everyone else, you're playing chess with 6 Queens and 4 Kings, and everyone else has a checkers board - you're not learning the same game, like with OBR.
Nice vid! I’ve been looking to get into AoS for months now and have yet to pull the trigger, mainly been looking at KO though. Reasons being: can’t go wrong with dwarves, doesn’t seem like too many models, lots of play options with sky ports. The rules seem kinda tricky for them though
How did skaven not reach this list?! Probably the oldest range, only really one low model count option and possibly the most unique army building in the game.
Was a toss up between Skaven and cities for that last spot but I feel being able to walk into a games workshop and having at least your core range on the shelf is better than being a direct only army. While the clans may have an odd way to build them it’s easy to say want monster build Moulder etc.
The only change I would make is I would drop Sons in favor of Slaves to Darkness. The Slaves SC box is great, you can pick up a great set of heroes in the underworlds warband, and the army plays generally as you would expect them to play. With Sons, very often the best way to play them is to avoid combat/retreat when you can still hold objectives with them and that is unintuitive when you're just learning. A couple Slaves SC boxes and you have a nice mix of anvils and hammers that look cool as hell. It can also drastically changes how it plays if you bring in Belakor or Archeon as a next purchase.
I love playing Lumineth but you have to be really good at the game. The entire army can die fast if you don't understand how to use their buffs and debuffs. Also, their MSU struggle.
I think the rule of cool is the most important thing when picking an army. I originally got in with slaanesh daemonettes and I later got into Slaves to Darkness. Now I can do both legion of the first prince, host of the everchosen, and ravagers, plus blades and demons of khorne. I just wanted the pieces tbh, and I wanted to paint the daemonettes with twenty layers of gray and purple and pink. Maybe I'm an outlier.
Rule of cool is important. But as we said in the video it’s important to know where your favourite army stands on a lot of these points to make sure it really is your favourite. If someone came to me and said I love both Slaanesh and Stormcast, it’s a no brainer to tell them what to start with.
@@jeromebound9155 I think we all start out that way. I remember seeing my first night goblin back in the 90's and thinking " man if I ever try that Warhammer thing, those little guys look awesome", I don't care if they are close to the worst army, they will have their day
@@josephskiles I give credit to everyone who plays with what they think is cool rather than meta chasing. Not that I look down on people who want a viable army, but hopefully they can eventually get the balance to a place where everyone has interesting stuff and a good model range.
@@jeromebound9155 It would be nice to be able to collect every army, I'm sure some rich person has done it before just to say it's been done LoL. Meta chasing must be exhausting with how often rules get changed, I respect people who can play at that level but honestly it has to be a major pain in the ass constantly having to sell outdated armies. I couldn't part with my toys like that I love my models too much!
Well I'm a death guy, so this was not really for me at all. I started a ossiarch bonereaves army half a year ago and it has been doing wonders for me. sadly they are a bit costly to start with and only just recently got a starter box this christmas. They are fun to play as you watch your opponent tirelessly get attritioned to death, while you laugh at their attempt at killing your army. Painting wise they are easy compared to many other armies and lastly THEY LOOK AWESOME.
I'd like to add flesh eater as an easy army to start with. One of the best starter sets available (probably second after ogres), pretty easy to play and while it has summoning its minimal
I don't know, competitiveness is one of the criteria he is grading on and I hear the FEC are in a bad place right now. I would instead put Soulblight as a good one to start with. They have 2 good start collecting boxes (the FEC one is actually really good for Soulblight also, as you can make a Vamp lord on zombie dragon, 3 vargheists, and frankly the ghouls can be zombies since the SBGL codex even mentions them resurrecting dead ghouls as zombies), they don't really have summoning as most think of it, its really more returning dead models, so no need for extra models.
Great video :) I kinda wish GW would create new models for CoS imho dawnbringer crusade is good point time to do it they could even expand on these crusades and allow you to crate custom cities. Also I want to ask: how would you rate std and Deamons of tzeentch?
I'm just about to start my first army in AoS, after a lot of back and forth I saw the christmas bonereapers box and went for it. Love me some calcium lords. Plus planning wise I also managed to find one of the warscroll boxes that gives me a kavalos and some cavalry, toss in another box of 20 guard and I feel that I have a nice mix of models. Original plan was an archaon/varanguard army that consited of only 13 models, love the idea of this hyper elite army of dark knights sweeping the field but thing I want to up my paint skills first.
One Caveat for Beasts of Chaos: The rumours are suggesting this will be rolled into Slaves to Darkness in the early new year. That makes them alot easier to start with.
As we say though all rumour until proven right. I wouldn’t invest until we get more solid evidence only the fact. Better to get slaves atm and add beasts in later if you want to take the gamble.
A good overview. Whilst I am new to AoS, I have played quite a bit of 40k in the past and have a slaanesh/emperor's children army, so expanding from the slaanesh start collecting felt somewhat logical. There are some fantastic models which helps. I'll probably start with the two armies in dominion first to get the hang of the game and then see how i get on with slaanesh, though I have been unable to resist daughters of khaine as well.
i was THIS close to getting that gravelords box bundle because I read that its the best of the bunch and ive always like the vampires, especially the blood knights. I am desperately trying to hold out until the oldworld updates.
I'm a former Fantasy player but I don't want to rebase all my minis especially since my hopes are high for oldhammer so I thought about starting a Vampire army but was a bit sad and glad at the same time that they didn't make any of the two lists.
Honestly can freely mix them in Coalesced they both are fine. Going Starborne I actually think your not as likey to buy them as you’d want a slann and salamanders.
I feel like Nurgle is currently the definition of "Middle of the road" when it comes to these criteria. You are elite as hell (especially with mortals), but you also summon and due to how the tree is worded currently you summon quite well since RAW you get 1 point per tree for EVERY tree, so 2 trees give you 4 points, 3 give you 9 etc.. The rules are fairly straight forward for the most part, but Disease is a ton of bookkeeping. Due to being ugly and messy they are easier to paint, but big, detailed heroes are very important for the army. There are some great boxes... but two of them just got phased out, leaving only the vanguard box (which is admittedly good value at a 30% discount, but still).
Which two boxes were phased out? I've been debating with myself on picking up the Daemons and Maggotkin box, mainly because I like the models, and thought they'd make good proxies for my Death Guard 40k army.
@@jasonschellenberg3782 The daemons box doesn't appear on their website anymore, at least for me (it had Plaguebearers, Plague Drones, a herald and some Nurglings iirc), and the SC Maggotkin Box (one Lord of Blights, 5 Blightkings, 2 Pusgoyles) is permanently sold out (of course there still some floating around at retailers). The one box still available to be bought directly from GW is the Vanguard box, the big one with both daemons and rotbringers.
Cities of Sigmar becomes a fair amount easier to get into if you're not going to take your army to an official (read: Citadel models only) tournament. Because you can tap into the wide and wonderful world of third party models, specifically the Historical miniatures market. This will largely skew your unit selection to the Freeguild side of things, though there are plastic boxed sets for Elves, Dwarves, and Halflings, if you know where to look. The advantage to Historicals is that you can leverage the expanse of history to create a unique Cities force. The Mortal Realms are many and large, and it only makes sense that it's varied peoples would have different uniforms and weapons. (At the very least, it _doesn't_ make sense for all human soldiers in all eight realms to look like German Landsneckt. Especially after centuries have passed, and the Cities have absorbed or conscripted the inhabitants of many places). Different realms lend themselves to different Historical eras/locations. Hot and arid Aqshy could use Afghan Tribesmen, while Shyish could sport Roman soldiers painted as ghosts (basically, crib from the Nighthaunt color schemes). It's your army. Feel empowered to do what you want with it. Good companies to look into in this regard: Perry Miniatures, Wargames Atlantic, Warlord Games, Victrix Ltd., Fireforge Games, North Star Military Figures, and Wargames Foundry. (The latter is largely metal, so it'll be more expensive than other options, but they have a large selection of very specific figures to act as centerpieces).
My FLGS is starting AoS. I have a box of Skaven Clanrats, then a box of Beastgore. I was hoping to get some insight on which to build on, but I guess not... 🤷♂️
Good advice; I think OBR should have been in the "not recommanded section" since they really do not help you to learn V3 with all their exceptions to the rules.
Another fun video. You list almost exactly matches to mine with one exception. I'd swap Sons of Behemat for Tzeentch, specifically daemons. Yes, there is an ability to summon and they can be played as a heavily casting army, but the daemons box does focus on this. You get minimal, basic spells that are easy to understand and cast. You get a few build options, but nothing too crazy. if you're new and just charge and fight, pink horrors aren't the worst thing in the world, plus you'll quickly want to expand to blues and brimstones to take advantage of their splitting. This is a huge bolster to your army and when first playing them in AoS, it's like you got free reinforcements. As far as painting is concerned, they're daemons, so there's no wrong way to paint them and you can be as creative as you like. I personally think lots of skin on the SoB models is difficult since we know what skin should look like and our eyes immediately pick up on the flaws. An honorable mention for best would be KO. They're pretty easy to play and give comfort to new players who hesitate to get into melee. Their biggest drawback is the painting. They can be challenging. An lastly, my honorable mentions for worst are Sylvaneth and anything death. I have a Sylvaneth army and love it,. From a hobby standpoint, they may be my favorite. I love painting all the earthy colors, plus brown contrasts are fantastic for trees. Their reliance on terrain and summoning make them one of the hardest to get into IMO. Death is just a mess. It always has been and I doubt GW is going to do anything about it. The factions rely too much on hordes or have over-costed characters (isn't Nagash up to nearly 1000 pts now?), you need to summon and have lots of models ready for this. On top of all that, once you do get your army together, GW will most likely rearrange the alliance again, making your army useless. I used to have a death army (LoN). Once I finally finished building it, GW did a reorg and now I have 3 useless mini factions. Arkhan got dropped, so he's now my solitary OB model. Nagash seems relegated to the shelf. The rest got split into anemic NH and SG armies. I've never played Flesheaters, but would be angry if I did since we now have 2 lackluster vampire armies; one completely ignored by GW and the other shoe-horned into and breaking an existing faction. Death is just a mess. Unless someone really truly loves those models, I'd highly recommend staying away from them. I think you could do a whole video on GW's mishandling of Death.
Also I don't know if it is in the video but I'd argue the start collecting gitz box is terrible and good. Gives you a variety of the faction, but I don't think I'd want to build an army out of it.
It’s certainly gives you variety but majority of Gloomspite lists like to focus. If it had say grots instead of Squig herd I think it would be a lot better.
I think it would be a good way to start collecting, maybe if they did the start collecting for all the factions as a sample of the faction, and made start competition boxes for a more focused build
It's horrible, a goblin army box with almost no goblins, lol that being said I did grab one though for the Troggs and the fact I love the squig piper ( I replaced all my stabba musicians with them). I had the same prob with the last couple Christmas boxes for them, a gitz box needs gitz
@@CinderfallGaming The biggest problems as I see it for my lads are 1. Morale issues 2. Horrible horrible horrible ranged attacks ( could be fixed with Allies). 3. No way to effectively deal with monsters ( unless with allies) 4. That last point increase really hurt us. 5. The Bad moon with it's buffs are extremely fickle, which makes sense lorewise I reckon. 6. Probably more of a personal gripe but every time my lovely Trogg princess gets the slightest bit of power they nerf the ever loving hell out of her , I got a feeling Gdubs hates that model or something.
@@CinderfallGaming Looking at things primarily through the lens of look of the armies and lore - which I need to catch up on before making a choice, since Fantasy was still around when I was last in the Hobby. Doing Dark Angels in 40K so feel like I want something that contrasts a pure armour look, but then again KO and SE do have some awesome looking models.
I have to disagree with you on Lumineth, I actually got started in AoS with Lumineth and the rules and models (count and detail) are why: (TL;DR easy to learn, hard to master, fun all the way) I feel like as a new player, the books rules are great to get started with because you’re basically a sponge, and you are drip fed the rules as you get the models and you don’t have to worry about the rules for models and builds you don’t own or plan to get. The details of the models actually lend itself amazingly to new painters, the fact that they are so beautiful and so detailed means that they can turn the most basic paint job into a master piece, no need for advanced techniques, just need base colours and the model pops by itself. This also means that it is easier to learn more advanced painting techniques on these models as well. Model count is another point for it (amongst others in your criteria) LRL is an elite army, the units are very expensive points wise so you don’t need to buy many models. But I do agree that the lack of a start collecting ( I got lucky that I was able to find the original box for LRL) and how expensive the models are is daunting, but other than that, a great army to get into the game with.
I think this comment is crazy. There are so many things you need to remember playing Lumineth and to even play it well. Horrible army for just starting. I would hate to play a new player playing Lumineth. 1 hour turns
@@jeremiahj1108 I’m talking from personal experience, it’s not hard, there isn’t that much to remember, all you need to remember is that you cast your spells in the hero phase, and that AQ gives you bonuses, it’s not hard at all, and you don’t throw yourself off the deep end, you start slow, that’s the smart way to do it, for the smart army
I would disagree with SoB as great starting army, since it is really diffrent from how other armies play an wont do much of a good job teaching the game
Don’t know, I’d say SoB as one of the worst tbh. Easily a top tier competitive, sure. Low model count? Absolutely… but it is such a non-AoS army. You aren’t really learning AoS with them, it’s such a different army from AoS and I don’t think it’s a good into to the game. Similar to OBR, I’d put OBR at the worst, with sons at second worst. You just have two factions that don’t behave like most other armies and you need such a different play style for each. I think a good “learning” army is one that behaves somewhat traditionally, a bit easier to use and also has some sort of access to every phase of the turn.
