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BEST COFFEE HAND GRINDER UNDER $350?! - ($90 VS $325?!😱) 

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0:00 - Intro
3:05 - TWW
4:57 - Comandante C40
8:30 - Chestnut X
10:59 - 1Zpresso K Plus
13:14 - KINU M47
15:00 - 1ZPRESSO JX
16:12 - 1ZPRESSO J-MAX
17:54 - Normcore
18:58 - Grind Results & Final Thoughts

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@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
Sift Test: Ground at 800 Microns C40 Time: 1.15 Boulder: 0.5 Sweet Spot: 17.1 Fine: 1.9 85.5% K-Plus Time: 0.37 Boulder: .5 Ss: 17.6 Fine: 1.5 88% Chestnut X Time: 1.15 Boulder: 0.9 SS: 17:7 Fine: 1 88.5% Kinu: Time: 0.50 Boulder: 1.3 SS: 17.4 Fine: 0.7 87% JMAX: Time: 0.57 Boulder: 0.6 SS: 18.1 Fine: 0.6 90% JX time: 0.55 B: 1.1 Ss: 16.9 F: 0.9 84.5% Normcore: time: 0.44 Boulder: 1.8 SS: 16.5 Fine: 1.2 82.5%
@lancemoore3867
@lancemoore3867 2 года назад
👀
@anthonymutheardy2383
@anthonymutheardy2383 2 года назад
Not sure if you did a comparison to the JX-Pro?
@jeftesantiago
@jeftesantiago 2 года назад
Are you considering to review the arco grinder when it comes out? I love the idea of adding the other Kyle to the video tho!
@geoz17
@geoz17 2 года назад
Great review of the grinders. Going for an specific brand or feature could be though for the first acquisition. Several options to be evaluated !! Thanks !!
@blairphelps7215
@blairphelps7215 2 года назад
Which would you choose, the 1Zpresso K Plus or Fellow Ode?
@EuropeanCoffeeTrip
@EuropeanCoffeeTrip 2 года назад
Great video, Kyle! Thanks for the shout-out 😀🙏 Happy grinding everyone!
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
My pleasure! All the best!
@robertbrandt1381
@robertbrandt1381 2 года назад
I love how over the top my mom's grinder is she has a Kinu Phoenix. I got it for her when she was using a cheap hand grinder. She doesn't want any coffee gear out on the counters so she says no to electric grinders. Loved the video!
@ComandanteGrinder
@ComandanteGrinder 2 года назад
Hey there Kyle, we're so happy that you love coffees brewed with your C40 Nitro Blade 🙏😊. All the best to you from all the team here in Munich!
@ComandanteGrinder
@ComandanteGrinder 2 года назад
PS - If you're unsure about what setting a C40 Nitro Blade is on, we love using this technique to go back to zero and then dial in in a matter of seconds >>> ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UN1X4ELC3-o.html 😊👍
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
Thanks friends!
@benjaminaustnesnarum3900
@benjaminaustnesnarum3900 2 года назад
After hearing me say I wanted a grinder, as I wanted better tasting coffee, my girlfriend surprised me with the Comandante C40 for Christmas. Other than the occasional caramel, or seasonal spiced latte, she's not much of a coffee drinker. So you can imagine my surprise when I learned she had done thorough research on everything related to great tasting coffee and grinders. I think this video was one of the deciding factors for the Comandande C40 she chose. So, thank you, Kyle, and Comandante. It's truly a great grinder. ✨
@ComandanteGrinder
@ComandanteGrinder 2 года назад
Dear @@benjaminaustnesnarum3900 , thanks so much for your kind words and to you and your girlfriend for supporting us! So happy to hear that you're enjoying your C40 :). All the best from HQ here in Munich, Joe (PS, thanks Kyle too!)
@normrubio
@normrubio Год назад
It's beautiful but I can't justify the price.
@SantiagoHernandez-bj3mb
@SantiagoHernandez-bj3mb 2 года назад
I own a C40 and I love it for my filter coffee recipes. I also own a Knock Feldgrind that’s dialed in for espresso due to it stepless design. What sealed the deal with me was choosing small companies that make their products in-house with great detail by hand (Germany & Scotland).
@jonathanogg7223
@jonathanogg7223 Год назад
Hey, I have the c40 and wanting the new Knock Feld47 for espresso. So you find your knock does a good job, e.g. better than a £409 electric grinder for instance? 😂
@alanjarrar
@alanjarrar 2 года назад
This must be one of the most detailed hand grinders review out there! Great job
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
Thanks Alan!
@adrienv500
@adrienv500 2 года назад
I've been using my Kinu m47 Phoenix for the past 9 months and I love it. Many people complain about the thumb stop of the Simplicity or the Classic. Oddly, it is replaced with a much more comfortable piece of rubber on the cheaper Phoenix version. To me, the most important is the possibility to adjust very precisely the grind size. It's pretty much the only thing that matters to get the perfect cup of coffee. The Kinu does that perfectly thanks to its stepless adjustment system. By the way, I read somewhere that grind uniformity is not all. Some finer grounds are also needed.
@ryannicholls3372
@ryannicholls3372 2 года назад
Interesting! I’m still tossing up Kinu or C40. Apparently uniformity does matter for espresso. More uniformity equals a cleaner and more refined cup and less uniformity generally equals a better texture and mouth feel. I can’t say my palette is advanced enough for that, but some of it does come down to preference.
@TeeMontague
@TeeMontague 2 года назад
@@ryannicholls3372 Yo, not sure if you've made up your mind yet but if you're thinking espresso, go the Kinu all day.
@ValleyRatCrew
@ValleyRatCrew 2 года назад
Great video bro! You can see the effort and passion behind it, thank you as always!
@S2580ss
@S2580ss 2 года назад
Great video Kyle. Really enjoyed it. Just wanted to say I discovered you when up feeding my new born baby boy. He’s 4 weeks now and you really helped me get through some tough late nights! Thanks!
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
Wow. This made my day. Thanks for sharing!
@samuelalexander5952
@samuelalexander5952 2 года назад
The quality of you videos are awesome! I bought the 1zpresso jx after watching your review and I love it. Great to see content like this from a fellow Ontarian
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
Thanks Samuel! It’s my joy!
@Thrilos30
@Thrilos30 2 года назад
Another amazing video Kyle! Congratulations on the 3rd Wave sponsorship! That's huge
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
Thank you! I’m a huge fan of their products so it seems like a natural fit!
@christophert320
@christophert320 2 года назад
THANK YOU. Been waiting for this. Can't wait to watch.
@tima.478
@tima.478 Год назад
It's absolutely insane the price of grinders....for what they do, DAMN!!!
@ThivvyCassie
@ThivvyCassie 2 года назад
fantastic video dude, really love to see this kind of effort put into a comparison like this. i like how detailed your approach is to grind uniformity and speed recently got the jmax and I've been in love with it. great espresso but versatile enough for pourover
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
My pleasure!
@mudzaffarazman583
@mudzaffarazman583 2 года назад
Great video and details. Awesome studio setup and lighting. Love the Comandante, no regrets!
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@1257mp
@1257mp 2 года назад
Great quality production. Love these videos!
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
thanks for watching!
@calebwaits4338
@calebwaits4338 2 года назад
I highly recommend the kinu m47. Its my daily and I love it. Its super consistent and the stepless adjustment has become a must have for me.
@aaronalphonso9229
@aaronalphonso9229 2 года назад
I have been using the c40 for about 5 months. Love the grinding experience. I really like the pitch of the sound by grinding.
@adamstonestreet3097
@adamstonestreet3097 2 года назад
Just picked up my JX grinder, really loving it !
@xllvr
@xllvr 2 года назад
Amazing video as always Kyle! And man that calculator will be amazing. Hand grinders aren't necessarily my gig but really appreciate what you do for the coffee community
@jettmuhlhuaser9880
@jettmuhlhuaser9880 Год назад
I have been using the J-max for a few months now, and overall for an espresso hand grinder it’s the best in the market for $200. The only problems I have had with it is reassembling the the top nut. It’s an awkward grip to get real tight enough bc if you don’t you’ll start skipping gears when grinding. Also, (this is an issue with all hand grinders not just the j-max) is that I recommend using medium to dark roasts bc lighter roasts can be quite the workout on your arms to grind those hard light roasted beans. Which is an issue bc most specialty coffees come in lighter roasts these days. But if you want a high quality espresso grinder and don’t want to spend $500 plus on an electric one, the J-max will make great espresso.
@sebaba001
@sebaba001 2 года назад
Awesome! The content people are asking for!
@audriusa7005
@audriusa7005 2 года назад
Love your creativity!!
@MrDroid0518
@MrDroid0518 2 года назад
I could not have asked for a better video!
@paulinazhang
@paulinazhang 2 года назад
such a timely video…I can’t thank you enough. Just picked up my c40 mk4 today … looking forward to joining the community!
@ComandanteGrinder
@ComandanteGrinder 2 года назад
Thanks for your support! 🥰
@glebcreativ1
@glebcreativ1 2 года назад
Do recipes you find online match what you see on your MK4? I've seen some comments that MK4 differs from MK3 in number of clicks - is that right?
@renewimbauer2546
@renewimbauer2546 2 года назад
Perfect selection Kyle - great video!
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@juniorpatte5426
@juniorpatte5426 2 года назад
I was waiting for this video :D thank you, very nice work, helps me to choose !
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
Glad to help!
@cardten
@cardten 2 года назад
Great introduction to hand grinders! I bought the Comandante C40 MK4!!!
@OSussannah
@OSussannah 2 года назад
Always love the thorough detail of your videos Kyle . Bonus was the comedy sketch at the beginning.....which was great. I got a bit of a "Jerry Lewis....The Nutty Professor " vibe from it 😃
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
Ah thanks so much!!
@mafiacat88
@mafiacat88 2 года назад
Man this is a handy video. I'll probably be going for the jmax myself, since it's mostly espresso I'm going for, and as much as I'd like a Comandante...the 150 dollar difference is a LOT when the results are this close.
@caramelypoops
@caramelypoops 2 года назад
Just fired up my machine and made a shot with my old JX Pro, I now mainly use a Eureka Mignon mk2 but I love my hand grinder, I will endevour not to neglect it in future.
@user-yv8bs9lr3f
@user-yv8bs9lr3f 2 года назад
Wow! Thank you for this compare! It's that what i did want to know!
@JPC326
@JPC326 2 года назад
Love my 1ZPresso KPlus ! Cant wait to see your calculator!
@mikeyblair5745
@mikeyblair5745 2 года назад
Great video here. Really great to hear the percentage differences between all the grinders, albeit a little arbitrary. Appreciate the effort! Also, the app sounds like a great idea.
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
Thank you! I hope I can make it an app, at the very least a web page. Fingers crossed!
@Matt-drums
@Matt-drums 2 года назад
Excellent video as always Kyle! Comandante will always have my heart! Can't wait to get one one day! 🙌
@ComandanteGrinder
@ComandanteGrinder 2 года назад
🙏🥰
@marioneto50
@marioneto50 2 года назад
Amazing video, mate! Thanks for the great and detailed comparison! 🤜🏼🤛🏼
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@CabeensCoffeeCorner
@CabeensCoffeeCorner 2 года назад
I own the kinu m47 classic, fellow ode, and comandante with red clix. When it comes to espresso I am not a fan of the comandante. I cant seem to get it dialed in with red clix. The kinu is great for espresso but id defiantly agree that it lacks in the terms of filter in comparison to the comandante. Thanks for the video
@marcelocalamita8968
@marcelocalamita8968 2 года назад
Excellent review Kyle! Also the quality of shooting is amazing. I have been using C40 and I love the style, the feeling, and the quality of the cups. For espresso, I use 1zpresso JE-Plus. Fantastic 47mm burs, same jar as K-Plus. It takes 50 sec for 18 g but it is smooth, a real pleasure to use it. With 12,5 micra stepped adjustment is also very easy to dial in.
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
Thanks for the thoughts!!
@stemazzo84
@stemazzo84 2 года назад
what makes you prefer the JE-Plus over the C40 for espresso, when it comes to taste?
@monodera78
@monodera78 2 года назад
Awesome video Kyle! I've been waiting for it. I've all those hand grinders except the normcore. I understand what you say about C40 and K-plus. C40 is my favorite grinder for pour over and Kinu for espresso because it produces the best flavour! For daily uses I prefer the Brazilian grinder Bravo It (Do you know?). Of course, i really like JX pro and K Plus too. And I think the J-max is excellent, but they could put the JE burrs to have a exceptional espresso like Kinu! Thanks for sharing your results!
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
Thank you for this thoughtful comment!
@Kmaaq
@Kmaaq 2 года назад
I’ve had the K-plus for a year now, some notes: 1- I was reluctant about the magnetic base at first but now it’s one of my favorite features. The trick of removing it super easily is twisting it as you do so. Otherwise it’s pretty solid. 2- Look for another grinder if you only want to use it for espresso. It takes about a minute of grinding, becomes super tough to grind with at espresso grind sizes (between 3 and 4), and the clicks are just way too big to adjust for espresso. With One click you can go from choking to a too fast flow.
@sarahdeschene3152
@sarahdeschene3152 2 года назад
So much to think about. Learned a lot Kyle. Thank you
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@ahmedattyah6410
@ahmedattyah6410 2 года назад
Your comparison videos are really the best I enjoyed them all
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
Ah thanks so much!!
@MrMatigraff
@MrMatigraff 2 года назад
Excelente vídeo Kyle!! Súper detallado, muchas gracias. Saludos desde Argentina!
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
Thank you!
@bkkheckler
@bkkheckler 2 года назад
Just got my C40 MK4 and only today had my first cup produced from it. Very happy what you're saying reinforced what I experienced. It makes for a great cup.
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
Glad to hear it!
@Will-wg1rn
@Will-wg1rn 2 года назад
I’ve beeeeeeeeeeen waiting for this!
@richardneal5054
@richardneal5054 2 года назад
Nice vid. Got a C40. Feeling very happy right now! Good to know that the extra hassle, which I am aware of, does have a pay off. I'm a Flair user, and espresso is such a minefield of variables that I wouldn't always know if the way it tastes is down to the grinder, though when I hit it right, it's just great. But for pour-over, I have found the cups I get to be silky, smooth, juicy and well-rounded, just like you say, from day one. Great to hear that confirmed. I'll settle for great tasting coffee and a few extra cranks of the burrs.
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
Glad to hear it!
@ComandanteGrinder
@ComandanteGrinder 2 года назад
Thanks for your support! 🙌🥰
@Andres_El_Paisa
@Andres_El_Paisa 2 года назад
Looking forward to check out the grinders converter!!!!
@wild-radio7373
@wild-radio7373 Год назад
I am loving how you did the sift test maths ♡
@GabrielGGabGattringer
@GabrielGGabGattringer 2 года назад
Very very interesting! 3x 1zpresso! I'm mostly interested in the 1zpresso JX, J-Max & K-Plus (coming from the little sibling, Q2). J-Max seems to be king of the three. Sadly all these 3 are so heavy/bulky that I kind of wanna stick with my Q2 (which I bought based on one of your previous comparisons). Overall a very comprehensive, interesting comparison! Thank you!
@BVShaves
@BVShaves 11 месяцев назад
Great video, thanks for breaking this all down with relevant pros and cons of each. Out of curiosity, what color combo is the C40 in your video? It's a beautiful grinder!
@yherelcastaneda4837
@yherelcastaneda4837 2 года назад
Great as always!
@HoonsCoffee
@HoonsCoffee 2 года назад
Well done Kyle. Great job on the video. I think I go with Kplus as well.
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@alexbagin8670
@alexbagin8670 Год назад
Thank you Kyle! You produce really great content!
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell Год назад
Thank you!
@marcusannegarn8497
@marcusannegarn8497 2 года назад
Wow! This is one the unicorn comparison videos that I'm sure many many people will be waiting for !! Great work Kyle. You did a great job to keep this video digestible despite being so long and thorough! I have a K-Plus and my friend has a C40. The C40 is super nice but no way I could give up the grind speed, catch cup, and ease of grind adjustment with the K-Plus. As for taste, both are good , it was hard to tell any real difference but we only did a very brief tasting.
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
Thanks for the thoughts and kind words!
@mprz8188
@mprz8188 Год назад
Hey, I'm here to tell you what's the REAL difference between the Kplus and the C40: durability C40 doesn't have the fancy Hi-Tech adjustment mechanism of the K series but trust me it will last for generations. Can't say the same about the Kplus. The adjustment mechanism is delicate (mine was spilled with water and boom... It's damaged. No joke, it's broken) I used to own a Jxpro. Then stepped up to Kplus and dude... Regret I did. At least the Jxpro can be washed with water and soap and will Never let you down.
@krzysztof1015
@krzysztof1015 2 года назад
Great video! I had Wilfa Svart which just broken and I was going to get Comandante, but I think I’ll go for K-plus after reading some reviews and especially after your recommendation ;) Hopefully it will be a good choice!
@ferdinandludo8851
@ferdinandludo8851 2 года назад
Awesome review sir! Very informative
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@filipecarvalho3425
@filipecarvalho3425 Год назад
I'd just like to leave a comment for others like me that are considering the normcore v2. I watched this video 6 months ago and decided to buy it since I was looking for something I could take with me. I'll just leave my experience with using it daily, hoping it helps someone. After 6 months I can tell you its totally worth the price. It makes a great cup of filter coffee but its a little finicky for espresso, at least trying to dial in medium-light rostas (I tend to find darker roast more forgiving). I'd take a little more resolution, as you get maybe 4 clicks of adjustment for espresso. Even so, it is completely capable of doing espresso. I find that its easier to just adjust the dose slightly when I find myself between steps. It isn't the most ergonomic thing ever and I had the catch cup unscrew on me a few times while grinding since I tend to grip it around the top, but its not a big deal. I'm just writing this since it would have liked to know when I bought it.
@christianmagnushaaland1138
@christianmagnushaaland1138 2 года назад
Great video Kyle! Enjoying your content more and more. The most important, at the end of the day, is the flavour produced, and I'm glad you take that into account. Great work, great comparison. Now (sorry) do the same for electric grinders :D Looking forward to the new Eureka single doser compared to Niche. Also, hey, what about a EK43 test? Is it the ultimate in taste? Does it work in the home? If not, can it be modded to work at home? Does it do both filter and pour over better than every other grinder? Is the uniqe burrset the very best? Anyways, looking forward to the next one! Great work bud!
@cudiedgar
@cudiedgar Год назад
great job on the review
@martinmanzi1830
@martinmanzi1830 2 года назад
Great video Kyle! I have a C40 and can't wait for your future video with the red clix...it's hard to get it in argentina and want to know whether it worths the money.
@MrHarlequin2316
@MrHarlequin2316 2 года назад
I’ve been waiting for this video, with my finger poised over the ‘Add to basket’ button on various pages, and I’m delighted to say that you have clarified a number of options for me, so thanks. Only one I’m sorry wasn’t included was the 1Zpresso JE-Plus, which looks like a potentially slightly better option for someone who wants to do both pour overs but also wants to be able to dial in espresso when away from home. I actually think I prefer the K-Plus - just concerned about the fine adjustment for espresso. Thanks for a really thorough and enjoyable video as always.
@danymeeuwissen5973
@danymeeuwissen5973 2 года назад
The JE-plus is unfortunately discontinued, grab one while you can! ;-)
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
So glad to help!
@ACIDDRIP35k
@ACIDDRIP35k 2 года назад
K Plus JE Plus M47 Pheonix Mainly for espresso and occasionally pour over. What should i get ? Thxs
@taejaskudva2543
@taejaskudva2543 2 года назад
I've already made my purchase, but it's always nice to see a video that helps to tamp down the buyer's remorse! I can't spend money without second guessing myself, so thank you Kyle! I don't do espresso, so I was looking for a grinder that went from French press to moka pot in range. Narrowed it to the regular JX (not Pro) and the K-Plus, and ultimately decided on the latter just to indulge myself with a bit of luxury. So far, I've mostly been surprised (don't know why since it's kind of the point) how different the cups have been from my Encore (which was my first non-blade grinder) since that is what I was used to. But I'm very appreciative of the experience as the making of the coffee is more my meditative break from work than is the drinking of it.
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
Thanks for the comment! Keep brewing and grinding my friend!
@lightandthesungod
@lightandthesungod 2 года назад
I have the Normcore and I absolutely love it! I love the speed it grinds at (which my dad kept going on about lol) and just how uniform the grinds are for a unit of its price range. Thoroughly enjoyable to use and very well made. Great review!
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@manuelpenaruiz3694
@manuelpenaruiz3694 2 года назад
Yeah, Normcore does really well. I own Normcore V1 and V2, comandante C40 and JX-pro from 1Zpresso Have to say these are amazing grinders. C40 & JX-pro are very very similar in taste. In fact the JX-pro brings a bit more sweetness to the front and is a tiny bit less acidic than the C40, but can't choose one over the other for pour over TBH That being said, Normcore (entry level) does exceptionally well for such a low price and build quality is just great.
@lightandthesungod
@lightandthesungod 2 года назад
@@manuelpenaruiz3694 if I could afford a commandante or a JX-Pro I wouldn’t even be talking about the normcore 😭
@manuelpenaruiz3694
@manuelpenaruiz3694 2 года назад
@@lightandthesungod well, worth mentioning that Normcore grinders are really good and uniform. So much that i use them for traveling and my brews (aeropress) taste amazing. Very nice and rich flavor, no complains at all and the whole package with a quality carrying case, brush and blower is just GREAT! From a certain point you start comparing grinders instead of replacing them. And here is my point. Normcore does incredibly well to be an
@lightandthesungod
@lightandthesungod 2 года назад
@@manuelpenaruiz3694 exactly! for everything coarser than espresso, the normcore smashes it out of the park! if it had enough adjustment to dial in for espresso properly it would probably be one of the best manual grinders out there
@NightFoxXIII
@NightFoxXIII 2 года назад
How do you feel about the Kingrinder K grinder series? There's the K2, K4 and K6 but would like to know your thoughts on it. Looks great as it's competing directly with 1Zpresso for price, fit and finish. Great video! Thanks for narrowing down some more good hand grinders.
@youngvet1993
@youngvet1993 2 года назад
Awesome video and explanation.
@gustavobregensk9998
@gustavobregensk9998 Год назад
amazing video! would love to see the kingrinder k6 in that mix
@knoef82
@knoef82 Год назад
I have j-max. Pretty great grinder for espresso and easy to dial in.
@michaelcibula9552
@michaelcibula9552 2 года назад
Great video Kyle! I've really enjoyed my K Plus for the past 10 months or so, and for all the reasons you mentioned. You're so right about the Commandante's community advantage too. One of the things I've noticed is when on forums or videos hearing other C40 owners share their clicks is a really nice benefit when starting out trying to better understand grind settings. Have you thought about sharing more on the setting equivalents you've found between the various grinders? I'd certainly be interested to know your ranges on the KPlus for various methods :)
@manuelpenaruiz3694
@manuelpenaruiz3694 2 года назад
X2
@W1nstanly
@W1nstanly 2 года назад
Bump
@jakerufenacht6403
@jakerufenacht6403 5 месяцев назад
Yes a relative comparison to grind size settings between the 2 would be a godsend
@JordanLassgoogle
@JordanLassgoogle 2 года назад
Would love to see a review of the pour over burrs for m47. Thanks for the great content, keep it up!
@monodera78
@monodera78 2 года назад
Hi, I can share my experience with kinu pour over burrs. It takes twice time than regular burrs to grind but the result is much better for V60. I would say almost identical to C40 to my palate in that case.
@morningcoffee1
@morningcoffee1 2 года назад
Really an amazing video, Kyle. Keep it up dear.
@kbvg24
@kbvg24 2 года назад
Thanks Kyle for this vid. Great descriptions and overall review. I love my Kplus too and I’m glad I got it over the C40 and M47. Two cons I have about the Kplus are the magnetic cup and the blind shaker. For denser beans it’s harder to grind, but due to the magnetic cup, I can’t rest the grinder on my chest to get better stability since it’ll snap off. I also find that the blind shaker traps too much coffee ground that it takes forever to unscrew everything and brush every crevice for coffee grounds. BUT a trick I find that helps with my workflow is that with the magnetic cup along with the non-blind shaker attachment, you can semi-attach the mag cup on the rim of a 58mm portafilter, and it acts as a dosing cup which you can just flip over, similar to niche’s cup.
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
Thanks for these thoughts! Enjoy grinding my friend!
@tommihommi1
@tommihommi1 2 года назад
That's why the 1zpresso K-Pro is actually better than the K-Plus
@danymeeuwissen5973
@danymeeuwissen5973 2 года назад
Good job Kyle! I own 4 of the grinders in this video and agree with most findings. The only thing I struggle with is the sweetness that people seem to love so much in the comandante. Mine (second hand, red clix) has a slightly muffled/muted taste compared to the K-plus, which is definitely cleaner/complex but I don't feel like it loses sweetness because of this. Then again, everyone's tastebuds are different, as is the coffee you use, water chemistry, etc. It all influences taste and balance. My J-max is almost as fast as the K-plus though, which is weird that yours was slower. I'm ususally at around 35s for a 20g espresso dose for the Flair 58 on both. I haven't timed it on coarser settings though.
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
Interesting! I didn’t time me espresso times for these findings so maybe the Jmax is faster on its finer settings comparatively.
@s-plus
@s-plus 2 года назад
@@KyleRowsell I have JX Pro, and I regularly do 34-35 sec for 20g of very fine espresso grind, and a second or two less for a regular espresso grind, and of course quite a bit faster for coarser grinds. So I'm also not sure about these grind results... The regular JX shouldn't be slower than the JX Pro for coarser grinds.
@philipeclaro4576
@philipeclaro4576 2 года назад
Hello Kyle! Great job. Have you ever thought about reviewing the Lido OG grinder? It was almost no reviewed in english.
@cbeenhackker
@cbeenhackker Год назад
Great review! Thx! Did you finish that Calculater ? It would be great to have this comparison chart.
@zsvrljuga1
@zsvrljuga1 2 года назад
I just bought a Nomcore V2 and i am really impressed with quality of shots and how fast does it gets through 17gr for espresso. In comparison with eureka mignon specialita, Nomcore produce a little bit more acidity and thinner shots, but still really good.
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing!
@fabiomalheiro8152
@fabiomalheiro8152 2 года назад
Thanks for this great comparison, Kyle! Which one do you think produced the best espresso shot? And what about the JE-Plus?
@gomesgomes884
@gomesgomes884 Год назад
Excelente comparativo! 👏👏👏
@marccefalu9741
@marccefalu9741 6 месяцев назад
Awesome reviews! Thank yhou so much for doing this. I'm looking to upgrade from my Hario grinder soon. The lack of click control and being able to see it makes it hard to dial in a certain grind size. Have you ever used or tried the Flair Royal Grinder?
@jerrrdavid9594
@jerrrdavid9594 2 года назад
Great video! What do you think about the Flair Royal?
@costam5591
@costam5591 2 года назад
Great review Kyle, I really enjoy watching your videos. What are your thoughts on the Aergrind by Knock? I am currently using it and I have some great results on filter coffee. Best wishes for 2022 and keep up the good work
@bobdonaldson445
@bobdonaldson445 2 года назад
Got the Chestnut X with leather. Absolutely ❤️ it!
@wengscoffeeproject7065
@wengscoffeeproject7065 2 года назад
Yaassss I agree! I just have my mk4 c40! Although it is relatively slow compare to others but it creates decent shot!
@bravenkind7843
@bravenkind7843 Год назад
All these are going to be pretty good. That being said, I’ve had the m47 Phoenix for years. It’s been fantastic, very easy to grind due to the long handle and great adjustment for different roasts. No significant issues or problems, still makes fantastic coffee, will get you some of the best cups you can get if the settings and technique are dialed in. Plastic bin holds more grounds. Pour over burr is slower but does indeed make better course grinds. Needs a lid and some rubber grip though - I cut a lid from some thin plastic vinyl to wrap around the center like a donut with a slit through one side and a tab, and some rubber bands from broccoli for grip. Get the one based on the features that seems best to you and leave it at that!
@ryancheah1139
@ryancheah1139 2 года назад
Missing out Orphan Espresso Lido OG. There is a wonderful grinder back to field with step and step less grind setting.
@IndianaDiy
@IndianaDiy Год назад
I used Essentia bottled water to brew my FogBuster Summit Sunrise coffee absolutely delicious cup! I have found that some of those little health food stores with all the vitamins carry some excellent bottled water compared to the big brands. But for home use, I prefer RO water with Bodybio E-Lyte electrolytes for best water for coffee.
@ethanholz3733
@ethanholz3733 2 года назад
Welcome back Kyle!
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
it was only 3 weeks... but thank you!
@Srv02
@Srv02 2 года назад
My K-Plus arrives tomorrow, it will be my very first grinder and will be a interim solution until the WW Key arrives. Of course I will use it afterwards as a portable solution. I also read that the J-Max produces too much fines, which diminishes the advantage of being a dedicated espresso grinder. I fell in love with the tumbler and I also think that the silver color is a more durable option, compared to the black anodized aluminum. Thank you for this great review, it really confirmed my choice.
@eloysuopunki7926
@eloysuopunki7926 5 месяцев назад
The silver color as well shines better when adjusting the grind size vs the black version. Easier to see.
@bazzen6992
@bazzen6992 2 года назад
Ordered the Normcore V2 with titanium coated burrs based on this. I've been using a Timemore nano for the last year but adjustment for espresso not good enough now I'm doing shots with the wacaco picopresso
@josiahbrown9128
@josiahbrown9128 2 года назад
Hi! Long time viewer but first time commenter. One of my favorite thing about the C40 is how often it is used as a reference to grind size. Grind size was one of the biggest frustrations for me getting into coffee because of how poorly defined things like "medium" and "medium fine" are. I've found the C40 is widespread enough that recipes will often mention how many clicks on the C40 taking the guesswork out of grind size that comes with many of these other grinders.
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
Hi Josiah! Thanks for commenting! Complete agree - it’s one of the greatest strengths of the c40
@PIANOPICTURES
@PIANOPICTURES 11 месяцев назад
Totally agree. I choose it because it is kind of the de facto standard and the reference for the tons of videos and recipes all over around.
@EightouncecoffeeCa
@EightouncecoffeeCa 2 года назад
Great video!
@MonopolyBag
@MonopolyBag 2 года назад
Great video, thanks!
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@gabrielbaron6470
@gabrielbaron6470 Год назад
Great video. Any thoughts on the Timemore Slim Plus?
@arbaazdin9298
@arbaazdin9298 Год назад
Incredible review!
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell Год назад
Thanks!
@lancemoore3867
@lancemoore3867 2 года назад
Fantastic video. My youngest sister is going to college next year and inquired about a hand grinder for a Dorm Room pourover setup. I recommended the Normcore V2 and am so happy to see you’ve had such great things to say about it.
@KyleRowsell
@KyleRowsell 2 года назад
thanks for watching Lance!
@victormorenogarcia9257
@victormorenogarcia9257 2 года назад
THANKS, i was thinking about upgrade my hario slim pro grinder. I though to buy the Jx, but 150€ for me was too much. Now i will buy the normcore
@project86xero
@project86xero 2 года назад
Because the J max was on a super long backorder I got the k-plus and don't regret it at all. It's my one and only coffee grinder. An I'm loving it. I use it for everything from French press and aeropress to pour over and Espresso. So thx for everything you do to help me and others elevate their home coffee brewing experience.
@Scott_Williams
@Scott_Williams 2 года назад
So you dialled in for the Commandante it tasted the best?
@liamstrain
@liamstrain 2 года назад
Thanks for this. I chose the JXPro personally and found it to be great for espresso. Looks like it is hard to go too far wrong with any of these.
@AnonYmous-wf1oz
@AnonYmous-wf1oz 2 года назад
Once your budget reaches the JX pro level, everything after has diminishing returns.
@mprz8188
@mprz8188 Год назад
@@AnonYmous-wf1oz stepped up to K series and now I regret. K series are quite fragile. The adjustment mechanism is highly prone to damage. Mine just suffered some water spillage and it's over. No way to repair it. Decided not purchasing the adjustment wheel again and look for better and more reliable options. My JXpro was in general much more robust and dependable. If your goal is best uniformity of grinds, k series can't be beaten. But if your goal is a grinder that's durable and versatile, JXpro does much better.
@lastfour
@lastfour 2 года назад
They are expensive for my wallet but I'll go with the Normcore. Thanks for the video and recommendation!
@iSee91
@iSee91 2 года назад
Thanks for the cool comparison Kyle. I got a question. I got the C40 with Red Clix axis (double the clicks) and was wondering if the K-Plus has finer adjustments? How can the clicks on the C40 be compared with thr K-Plus. Is one C40 Click (without Red Clix in case you don‘t have it installed) equal to 2 K-Plus clicks or is it rather 3 or 4 (or more) clicks on the K-Plus. Thanks for your help!!!
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