Sitting in my hotel room in China setting it up as you suggested with Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam coming up, you have been a great wealth of knowledge, Good day to you Sir!
Great video, Billy. My M2P arrives this coming Thursday, so I'm excited. One minor point, at 6:38 you infer that h264 and h265 will give the same quality. I do video processing, grading, and compression for a living and h265 is vastly more efficient than h264. That means that, for the same bitrate h265 offers about twice (very vague and subjective, but in most general terms) the quality over h264. Conversely you can get the same quality as an h264 file with h265 at much less bitrate. Also regarding quality, h265 allows for 10-bit color. This means that, instead of having 256 grades in each color channel, you get 1024 grades (values) for each color channel. That gives you much more precision in color as well as dynamic range in your recording. It's 10-bit (and even 12-bit in some formats) that allows for HDR dynamic range and when you watch 4K HDR programs from the Hollywood video streaming companies (full transparency - I work for one of them), you are getting 4k (UHD) HDR h265. If you are going to grade your footage, and there is nothing else stopping you (i.e. your edit/grading software) definitely use h265. The amount of information captured in h265 encoding is significantly better than h264. Now...if you want to talk about HLG (Hybrid-Log-Gamma) I'm happy to do so. Its a neat feature, and popular in Japan and EU (it's a BBC technology) but not very popular in the US and many TVs don't support it.
Hi, I'm considering buying the Mavic 2 pro, and as I can see you have great knowledge about filming, could you tell me what the difference is between D-Log and HLG. Because I could never understand what is the difference, so if you could explain to me with is the difference I would be ready grateful. Thanks
drone maniac Ok. I’ll try to keep this relatively short. It’s easiest to explain if you understand what increased dynamic range is. Fundamentally increased (high) dynamic range uses more data per color (red, green, blue) to define the brightness of each pixel. This means that for a given brightness range, there are more steps used to define the brightness and color of adjacent pixels and thus the image contains more detail in that area. For example, in a high dynamic range you will be able to see more detail in the shadows because there is more data there vs a standard dynamic range image which is forced to merge tones that are close into the nearest similar tone because there is not enough data to differentiate them. Both HLG (Hybrid Log Gamma) and D-log M carry more resolution in dynamic range over standard video. However, the eye is not linear, so simply applying more data isn’t enough. We are more sensitive to differentiating detail in some tonal ranges over others and so we need more data to differentiate between dark tones that are close together than mid tones, for example. Both HLG and D-log M use a logarithmic relationship between the numerical value for a pixel brightness and the actual brightness represented. In otherwords, with a given amount of data available, the use of that data allows more data where we need it more and less where we don’t. That is where the two formats deviate. Generally, when you get a high-dynamic-range image (like a UHD HDR movie from iTunes) the brightness is encoded using one of these types of weighting curves. The most popular formats are commercially known as HDR-10 and Dolby Vision and less popular is the format promoted by the BBC called HLG. HDR-10 and Dolby Vision require HDR capable displays (although Dolby Vision has the capability to convert on the fly for non-HDR and HDR-10 only displays). Ignoring the on the fly conversion happening in DV, if you were to view these signals on a non-HDR capable TV, the picture would be flat and low contrast. Thus you must have a capable TV to view these signals properly. HLG was designed with this backward-compatibility built in. The algorithm for HLG uses the existing dynamic range standard for traditional HDTV and simply adds an extension to support the extra bright portions of the picture for the occasion that the display can support high dynamic range. The advantage of this is that if you play this signal on a normal (non-HDR) TV the image will be completely acceptable. The disadvantage is that you do not have quite as much flexibility and punch when creating in high dynamic range. Nearly all TV’s labeled “HDR” can play the open source HDR-10 format and those that license (pay) Dolby support Dolby Vision. It’s been my experience that a lot of HDR TV’s also support HLG although it may not be obvious in the TV’s literature. HLG is not very popular in the US but it is used in other parts of the world. That said, HLG is a legitimate DISPLAY format and if you take an mp4 directly from the M2P and play it on a TV (via USB for example) that supports HLG (I have a Vizio P-series and M2P mp4’s even display the ”HLG” badge on the info panel) you get the full, high dynamic range available in the image. If the TV does not support HLG, you still get an acceptable image but not as dynamic (assuming the TV supports h265 mp4’s of course). D-log M uses a similar philosophy of using a gamma curve to encode the brightness levels in the image in a non-linear way, but it is designed to maximize the dynamic range for the color correction stage of the video post production process rather than direct display. By encoding your original image in D-log M, when you get to color-correcting your image, you can push the image farther (brightening the whites, darkening the blacks, pushing the colors around) without reaching the point where black areas clump up (crush) or white areas clip and so it is easier to make a moody dark image or a blinging bright image (for creative effect) without losing detail in these areas. However, D-log M is not a broadcast standard. Your TV doesn’t directly know how to process these gamma curves (in fact your TV itself has no idea that this is even the encoding used) and each camera company has their own version of the encoding algorithm to achieve a similar result (Sony’s is called S-log and Canon, C-log) and give the colorist better control over the final image. But, D-log M (and the others) MUST be color graded (adjust to creative taste) in order to get an acceptable image otherwise the image will be flat and low contrast. TL;DR: So in other words, HLG is a high-dynamic-range format designed to be played directly on a TV and, if capable, that TV will display brighter whites and more detail in the highlights and shadows than a normal display and if not capable, the TV will display an acceptable image on par with typical HD broadcast highlights and shadows. D-log M requires creative color grading to create an acceptable image, but in skilled hands (and eyes) has much more creative latitude to work with.
@@supergimp2000 oh ok great, thank you so much for taking your time to explain it to me. I now fully understand it because not many people on RU-vid go into so much detail. So once again thank you for your time and help. I hope you are still enjoying your Mavic 2 pro, I'm getting mine soon😁👍👍
Finally got my Mavic Pro 2 Billy after flying my Inspire 2 for the last year and a half and I really appreciate you taking the time to answer these camera settings questions. Although a lot of the settings are similar I need to get used to the Mavic and your tutorials help me tremendously. Thanks again for your time.
Although I hate it when people comment and say to me, "You've earned a new subscriber..." Billy, you actually have earned a new subscriber. I've learned so much about the Mavic 2 Pro from your videos and I can't wait to get mine on Tuesday to check out! Sadly, I'll be using the automatic settings for now. Anyway, thanks for all that you do!
Very informative. You’re extremely good at explaining settings btw. I feel like quite obviously you’ve got MANY hours invested in this part of drones and watching your video is exactly like a free lesson from a serious heavy hitter. Cheers
Hey Billy - Thank you SO MUCH for providing these settings - crazy that DJI don't give any detailed instructions. The great point you make is to try out the different settings.
Thanks Billy I'm a camera nut and an RC aircraft fiend but new to drones. I bought a Mavic 2 Pro and this is just what I need. The stuff on the DJI website is useless. Great stuff and well presented. :)
I've been using gimbal pitch 1 to do 360 videos of buildings for commercial real estate, helps out a ton! Will probably switch it up to see what the difference is. Thanks for the walkthrough!
Great video thanks ! I guess I would use Gimbal speed to 1 for an hyperlapse. As the video will be speed up it will look more like a normal speed in the end.
Great video bro. Just got my Mavic 2 Pro Yesterday and I love it... I flew and filmed in normal mode just to get a feel of the drone and the footage already looks amazing. Can’t wait to try DLog M...
Thanks for posting this Billy. You explained a couple of things that I was having problems with, and now I know why (i.e., recording in mP4 and not being able to edit on a Mac, and then not setting the output to the microSD card).
I've been using the DJI Mavic 2 Pro for just a little over a year, and my settings are exactly like yours, except that I do have my gimbal settings set just a little lower. I like the slow and boring! 🤣 I couldn't imagine using anything else but D-Log M, and for anyone who's afraid of color grading, they could just apply a LUTS to their output and get something they like and it's very simple to do.
3:55 Also, when +1 applied on the sharpness, the denoiser is not activated. The denoiser tends to introduce some weird artifacts in low-light areas. Everything under +1 will introduce that rumble. So, be smart, be +1
Great explanations Billy! I'm hoping to pull the trigger on the 2 Pro by the end of next week, and the more info like this I get, the easier it will be to get in the air once I get it!
I just moved up from a Mavic Pro to a Mavic 2 Pro. One thing I discovered was that the M2P has separate exposure settings for video and pictures. I don't see info on this in the DJI manual and not on RU-vid videos. During my first few flights, I couldn't figure out why my videos were so washed out, when I switched from video to picture.
Thanks bro! Because of the heat and rain here, I've gotten in only 1 hour of flight with mine, but I already take this bird over any I've flown. With this video, I now understand those settings that I struggle to comprehend via the User Manual.
Great video and H265 all the way. I have noticed the softness as well. It looks like the plus 1 for sharpness is the best bet. The contrast may need a tweak depending on the scene lighting. I think with 100Mbs of data divided among the frames that a lower frame rate for the best quality is the way to go. I love this drone more and more each day. If you use Windows make sure you install the HEVC extensions to support the H265 files as Windows Media player and some editors (i.e., Davinci Resolve) will not work with them. Thanks for sharing Billy awesome stuff.
Davinci Resolve will work with the h265 footage, but only the paid Studio version supports 10 bit (HLG/Dlog-M). 8 bit h265 will load just fine, but you would have to be shooting Normal profile h265 - you would get the compression benefit (better compression means you get more quality for your 100Mbits maximum bitrate), but it will be harder to grade. Maybe BlackMagicDesign will be nice to us at some point and enable 10 bit h265 for the free version, but honestly if you're spending the money for the M2P, just pay for the full version of Resolve and enjoy the awesome grading power of 10 bit footage.
The free version seems to be working fine with the HEVC extensions installed on Windows 10 and I am using Tom's TechTime DLOG-M files. They were not working until I installed the HEVC extensions, then everything starting working with the unpaid version. A number of threads mentioned this so I gave it a try and it worked. I pay for Premiere Pro but some of the color grades I see out here with people using Davinci Resolve look awesome so I am just testing for now. I will pay for the studio version no problem, just checking it out first.
DuckMySquee The free link rather than the 1 dollar version (same software, still direct from Microsoft) www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/hevc-video-extensions-from-device-manufacturer/9n4wgh0z6vhq?irgwc=1&OCID=AID681541_aff_7593_159229&OCID=AID681541_aff_7593_1243925&tduid=(ir_wJC0gNTClQca0BAzqwxkEXPhUkjTGXQhW1412Y0)(7593)(159229)()(UUwpUdUnU56397YYwYd)&tduid=(ir_1LV3EHwW9z5wQlhXVgx4KzwgUkgxwdQlGVk9UM0)(7593)(1243925)(tv2R4u9rImY-SVeYsH1XAAJzvnvHgScFQg)()&irclickid=wJC0gNTClQca0BAzqwxkEXPhUkjTGXQhW1412Y0&irclickid=1LV3EHwW9z5wQlhXVgx4KzwgUkgxwdQlGVk9UM0&ranMID=24542&ranEAID=tv2R4u9rImY&ranSiteID=tv2R4u9rImY-SVeYsH1XAAJzvnvHgScFQg&epi=tv2R4u9rImY-SVeYsH1XAAJzvnvHgScFQg&activetab=pivot%3aoverviewtab
As always, great video Billy. I got my M2P last Monday and have only been able to fly once so far. Work and the weather are killing me! I agree on all of the gimbal settings. Thanks for the +1 sharpness suggestion. Keep em coming !
Very good info as always. I have about 4 hours on my Mavic 2 Pro. It would be more but I had the flu for a few days (great timing). I have only used H265 so far and am well pleased with it. Your gimbal setting a nice too you saved me some time with that.
For those that might not know..... anti-flicker has to do with counter acting the refresh rate if certain devices you might encounter shooting video indoors, such as under some florescent lightning and older computer screens. Generally 60 cycles is used in North America and 50 cycles in UK and Europe.
I didn't read all of the comments, but the anti flicker mode likely relates to artificial lighting. I haven't tried it but it you set your white balance to fluorescent you can probably turn it on. It works on the cycles of artificial lighting to minimize color shift.
Thanks! I'm going to give the gimbal settings s shot. I also switched my settings to save original files on hyperlapse and panos. When you edit yourself the results are much better! Also, now I can have 4K hyperlapse instead of 1080. Super helpful tips!
Hi Billy, Well done Sir, I think you're spot on and in fact I'm going to make a couple slight changes to my camera / gimbal settings now but I like the result based on your side by side data here... nice job..
Billy, great video and very much needed as I've been hunting for this kind of information.... just one suggestion, you speak so fast I found myself having to rewind and re-listen to most of the video to catch the information, it'd be great to slow down slightly. Aside from that a great help and will definitely help me get more from my Mavic 2 👍🏻👍🏻
Here's a challenge for you that, so far, has not been done with a drone. Could you shoot some _day-for-night_ video footage to see how well the Hasselblad's adjustable aperture handles it. A circular polarizer filter is highly recommended but the camera may not yet be ready for such a filter. Thanks in advance👍
Very good video Billy thanks for all this valuable information, I used your P4P setting video and it work very well for me on my P4P so this will be great Thanks
Thanks for the heads up on the video settings very helpful, I was and maybe other people also how do you colour grade your footage,manually or with Luts,tutorial would be nice;)
Hi. Amazing video! Tell your friends... many of these settings cannot be changed in "enter the camera view". We must be connected to the aircraft. Also, the Gimbal settings are inaccessible if the Gimbal plastic bubble protector is attached. That Gimbal icon does not show within the options with the bubble on. Thank you again - VERY helpful!!!!
CAN YOU DO A TUT ON HOW TO MAKE THE BEST HYPERLAPSE VIDEO. LIKE HOW FAST SHOULD THE DRONE BE MOVING FROM POINT A TO POINT B AND HOW MANY SECONDS BEFORE TAKING PICTURES.
Hi Billy. Great video as always. You are promoting heavily D-log, but did not say a word about HLG next to it. Why did you skip it? Isn't it another compression algorithm for exposure and color to get better colour grading? Why did you just ignore it? Is it also connected to Hasselblad colour mode, that DJI is so proud of. It's supposed to better than D-log
Thanks for that. I did hear a lot about the Hasselblad color alignment when they decided to marry the two. I will check it out as DLog has been the standard for all previous models.
Billy, do you think you'll do a video on the settings o the aircraft itself such as how it responds on the x,y axis, how fast or slow the aircraft turns left right, etc? I remember you did an amazing video on the original and I love to know those numbers you use. Thanks
Hi Billy I know this is an old video I just wanted to thank you so much for all your contributions to the community. I just have some stupid question that someone else may be able to answer. why would you need to use the 180° rule when you don’t need motion blur from that distance. In fact wouldn’t motion blur not be good from a far distance? Loss of sharpness maybe? Thanks so much again have a great day
DJI has ND filter set posted and you can get an in stock alert. I ordered GoProfessional case at B & H Photo with ship in 7 - 14 days. GPC is the best.
Billy, great video - I've been watching loads of drone videos this year and your videos (and appearance in other's videos) has made you one of the more interesting sources of information on RU-vid. Could I ask that you do a supplemental video to this one to cover the settings on the Zoom? All the Drone enthusiasts on RU-vid seem to have the Pro or both models, but only do features on the Pro. Many people, myself included, have chosen the Zoom. So could you be a hero and do some articles on the Zoom? Starting with optimal app settings.... Many thanks for you videos and keep up the good work.
Great video Billy. Do you know what the right dial is for on the controller? Yes, loving the new Mavic 2 Pro...sooo much better than 1.0. I sold my P4Pro because I needed something more portable, so I got the Mavic and was so disappointed with the footage and the capabilities of the drone itself. It seems like the M2Pro is on part with the P4Pro, but is a package small enough to travel. Plus, I really love some of the new filming features.
The anti-flicker setting only works in full Auto mode. It doesn't work in A, S, or Manual. It also doesn't work in Auto if you turn off Auto ISO portion. Don't know why.
hey Billy, great video - as always, actually. I am your fan since I got my first Mavic in 2017 and I just wanted you to know that you have a fan from SLOVAKIA! :-) PS: I used “gimbal pitch speed” at “1” last week - by filming some professional real estate videos (closeup shot, moving very slowly up and tilting very slowly down)
