Thanks for the video Rob. I have a solution for the bare bulb that I am pretty happy with. I swear by the Godox AD-M reflector, which comes with four color effect gels (red, blue, yellow green). I haven't found that it really hurts light dispersal in a softbox and it is really easy to change colors quickly. What I really like though is that I have bought sheets of gels (CTOs and CTBs) and cut them to fit. They work great, are inexpensive and swap out easily. I have also bought some color effect gels and done the same thing. Now, the cheapskate in me has taken it even a step further. I have bought 8 different colors of cellophane, laminated them and then cut them to fit in the holder of the AD-M. After quite a number of shoots and more than two years, I have had zero problems. My cost per gel is something like $.35 each and and I have no complaints about the results. I know they are not "color correct", but as effect gels, they are great. I would recommend this very highly as another possibility. You do have to make sure you laminate the cellophane; without it, they will catch fire. Cheers
Perfect man. Thanks for the TL;DR and the full deep dive. Coming form a video background, learning strobes has been made a whole lot easier because of your content.
Hey Rob. I’m the guy that prompted your recent Westcott FJ video. Bought a V1 at your recommendation; did my first shoot and want to go full into on and off camera lighting. Been on a tear through your videos; this one is priceless. Thank you!!
Your videos are fantastic! Direct and to the point. Being able to say what you feel about each product as clearly as possible is a great quality in the world today. So many people try to use weasel words today so as not to "offend" or "be kind" when what people really want is the unbridled truth. Thanks so much. I just bought the ad200 Pro thanks to your review.
Hi Rob, as of today, May 6th, 2024, this video of yours is the the BEST on color gels for Godox flash. It's because you cover all the aspects of color gels that I want to ask. For example, you cover gels for Godox fresnel lens, Godox round head, Godox bare bulb head. You also point out the LIMITATIONS of Godox gels. You DEMONSTRATE EVERYTHING such as the advantages of Rogue gels, the limitation of Godox gels, how to put on the gels for bare bulb head, etc. No wonder you get 94.5K SUBSCRIBERS. We need MORE REVIEWERS LIKE YOU. Thank you for an excellent job.
Awesome video. Brand new to off camera flash photography. Love the details! Waiting for my AD200Pro and AD300 to arrive. Planning for the 200 to be my accent with gel capability. I do have the round head coming, so maybe the Rogue for me.
Thanks for spending all that money on all the different gels so you can show us what's best for our needs. You rock. Love your videos - keep 'em coming! :D
Absolutely EXACTLY the info ive been searching for🙏👍 Thx for taking the time for such in in depth review, has saved me heaps of time and hassle Cheers from down under🙏👍
When I used to use Canon & Yongnou flashes, I would go to the local theater supply store and grab 4 or 5 gel books from Rosco & Lee (they are usually free). Then I would pull out the color I needed and tape (or rubber band) the gels out the flash. The gels from the gel books were long enough to tape the ends and give enough area for heat dispersion on the long sides. Generally the Yongnou's sucked with heat dispersion and 1 of 3 would overheat. But I found that to be the cheapest solution. I just changed to the AD200Pro's, but haven't used them yet. Buying the larger gel books should solve the size issue. And a little bit of scotch tape too
Fantastic video, Rob! I use the Godox/FlashPoint lights a lot, and I've known I need to start using more & better gels. I think you have saved me a bunch of $. Thanks!
Just got the Rogue round kit after watching this. Great find, I'm going to like these. Drives me nuts not having labels on gels. and you pronounce Fresnel properly!!!
@@01r1sh Not so sure about that lol. Most drugs cost somewhere between $40 to $100 for a single bag, and most addicts need more than a single bag a day (most need at least 2 minimum) so that can be anywhere from $400 minimum to $1000+ a week...unfortunately i have delt with addicts in my life. It's not a cheap habit by any means. Thats why most of them go bankrupt or steal things for money. Same reason there are beggars at every intersection in major cities...So in conclusion i doubt most photographers are spending $2,000 to $4,000+ every month on equipment and gadgets hahaha. That would be like using most peoples entire paycheck and more every single month. So its safe to say you made the right decision haha
Regarding the Flashpoint V11 sets from Qmax, if you only use the outer plastic cover in the gel holder, then you can put the gel on top of the round head and then lock it in with the gel holder. This would be pretty quick and workable in a high paced environment. This doesn't resolve the stupid issue of having unmarked gels, but at least it removes the speed loss when changing them. I guess you could use a marker and do a number of black dots on the edge to keep them apart. One for 1/8, two for 1/4, etc. If done carefully only on the part that is covered with the gel holder, it should not cause any color cast.
@@HellbellyUK The basic color is usually easy to spot when it comes to correction gels, its mostly noticing the different grades that is hard in dim or color cast light. But if you can indeed print text on the edges of it, then that would not be a wasted effort!
Wow this review is amazing. I had go through everything you experienced and I am looking for the gel for round head now. And also think godox missed the opportunity here. Thank you your final recommendion.
It is a pity that the Godox gels aren't marked. It's quite difficult to tell the difference between the CTO and 1/2 CTO. However you do get two copies of each gel type in the pack and if you put only one of the clear inserts in the filter holder you can mount the gel just as easily as the Rogue ones. If you have the AK-R1 set you can take the insert out of the diffuser plate and replace it with the second clear insert to give you a second filter holder so you can use the second gel in the pack on another round head.
I can't justify the price of those bare bulb gels. Sheesh. I think I will just create a template and cut some of my own from larger, more affordable sheets. Thanks for the video, Robert!
@@eoghanhennessy15 I'm not. There's never been quality solutions for gelling barebulbs. Even the infamous PCB Einstein, which has a perfect diffuser mount that would allow for simple gel domes, doesn't have gel options.
@@robhallphoto The main issue for me is I will need to pay $45 in shipping on top of the product price as I'm in the UK - the product price is a little bit high, so with the shipping added, I was looking for alternatives, perhaps sold more locally to me. I do find your vids and techniques extremely helpful for learning lighting, so thank you for that.
@@eoghanhennessy15 The V-11 kits are found as "Godox-V-11T" and "Godox-V-11C", and also all the Rouge kits are sold in the European Amazon stores, so they would not give you the ridiculous Adorama shipping costs.
@@robhallphoto Yes, but at one point I encouraged Paul to create different temp color Einstein diffusers and he did do that. Sadly, he didn't create a range that would have set the market on fire, so that was the end of it. The optional warm glass diffuser is really great however. PS Please encourage Godox to create a quality glass frosted dome for the AD200/pro. The Einstein only eats 1/10th of a stop for that beautiful light redistribution. We wouldn't need the AD200 bare bulb if they did this.
Hi Rob, have you managed to get your hands on the GEEKOTO version of the AD200 for testing? I believe you can use Godox triggers to fire them. This is really interesting news, as I believe they are even more cheaper. Definitely worth a video upload. Love your work mate!
As always, a very clear and informative vid. I got me a set of Rouge gels and they seem very well made for me (I got both the Speedlite and the round ones), both with very obvious markings, nice cases and very easy to use. If I'd ever need extra rubber bands, any ol hair band will do.
Rob - as always a great and informative video with logical flow, no bull shit and no manufacturer marketing speak. I'm not a high net gel worth individual like you but I am already invested in Magmod and use their gels on my fresnel head. Maybe outside of your use case but have you ever heard of a good bare bulb gel solution to use in conjunction with Godox's mini beauty dish AD-S2 , the AD-S17 or their mini softbox AD-S7? all of these are super handy due to their compact portability but all both mount directly to the little pegs in the bulb socket via 1/8 turn and lock slots. I'm guessing they would interfere with flashgels wrap and that it is not recommended to band the gels right onto the bulb. Have you ever seen anyone McGyver a good solution for these modifiers?
Thank you! And excellent question, but no - I haven't seen a logical solution. I feel you are correct in assuming that anything covering the barebulb would be problematic, and unfortunately I don't have a solution for those modifiers.
Thanks Robert ended up purchasing the Rogue gels. I use both heads so went for the fresnel set... The godox set for the V1 is pretty frustrating so looking forward to getting stuck in with these.
Awesome video just what I was looking for. I want to gel an AD200 bare bulb. But the link to the product in your video says item no longer available. Any suggestions on where I could get some?
Excellent video. I've just been looking at the Godox AK-R1 Accessory Kit For S-R1, H200R and V1. Unless another company makes magnetic gel holders for the AD200 round head, it looks like I'd still need the Godox kit even if I were to then purchase a set of Rogues.
I picked up the QMAX T set for only £11 which seems to have more CBT filters than the Rogue filters. Slipping the filter under the adapter with a clear filter for quick release works just as well.
Oh man, I wish that I had seen this video a few months ago when I was buying gels for my AD200pro. I did end up getting the round head and both the suggested kit and the improved gels. I too was confused about why they made such a fiddly solution when slightly larger gels would stay on with ease without having to be sandwiched between clear glass. Thankfully I am just a hobbyist, so if I am breaking out coloured gels I am likely just having fun in a low pressure environment. I don't need to be fast.
With a roll of clear tape, paper, Scissors and a pen you can add tabs and markings to the Godox/Qmax gels and make them as easy to use as the Flashgels
Another option for the fresnel head you missed: Honl Photo and their speed strap system. They have velcro straps that wrap around each head, and then each gel has little velcro strips on the top and bottom. They're very quick to take on and off. Their secret weapon is you can hang extra gels off the side of your flashes by attaching them to the extra depth of velcro on the speed straps. This is really useful for me on real estate shoots because I can stick a couple of different strengths of CTOs to each light and then it's really quick to swap them without having to run back to my camera bag each time.
The AKR1 kit is good, (apart from the carry case which is way to small) but the gel holder is really fiddly. First time I used it I scratched the gels trying to twist them into the holder, as they are really hard to twist into place. You can stack 3 in the holder but you have to twist the first one one way, the second the other, then back the other way for the third. If you don't push it all the way in or it's slightly offset, it will never twist. Honestly they are a pain and doing it in a dark event like a wedding reception would be a no no. I often don't even twist them, I just rest it in there and put in on the head and remember when taking it off that it's loose.
Robert. Thanks for this and all your videos. I purchased the Flashgels for the AD200pro sometimr ago after watching this video. I have just purchased from Flashgels correction gels for the AD400pro. If I attach the Flashgels to the bare bullb can I also use the Godox AD-S65W and AD-S85W at the same time?
The only significant change is that Adorama now offers a clone of Flashgels.com for the barebulb (as well as for other light's barebulbs). I haven't used them.
I've been using Rogue speedlight gels for years. Love them. The only issue I have now is when I have to use the AD200 on a softbox. Can't attach them as the AD200 itself is very tight fit in the S bracket and an extra band to hold them will make them impossible to slide through the bracket. I'll wait for the new design of the S bracket.
Once again super helpful. I was literally trying to decide just this week what to purchase for my AD200 PRO. So that round head adapter really is the way to go it seems. Ive noticed a lot of people mention it. I have a question for you though Rob that i cant seem to find the right answer for. Is a regular speedlight (godox T600 or V1) strong enough for most scenarios? Even outside on sunny days. And how useful are they when put in a softbox or should i just buy another AD200 pro for my 2nd light?
I don't find a speedlight even close to what I need outdoors. Speedlights can be strong, when used directly, but that is also harsh light quality with limited applications. As soon as you start using it to bounce light, you lose all benefit of their Fresnel head and they won't compete with larger flashes. Even the AD 200 can easily be too weak for use in bright conditions.
@@robhallphoto Thanks for the reply thats exactly what i needed to hear. I feel like i could never get a full honest answer to that question. So what youre really saying is im gonna need an AD300 or AD400. Is the AD300 even worth it though?
Lol good thing i quickly came back to this video to double check on these gels. I was just about to purchase the wrong ones that dont fit inside the roundhead haha. Thanks again for this in depth review. Oh and what are your thoughts in the AD600BM vs. AD400 pro. Cause that 600 is alot cheaper and technically more powerful
Thanks a ton for the brilliant info and research! I'm all in with Godox currently and the Rogue option looks really great. Having said that, I've only recently started looking into gels and was wondering if you have any tutorials on how gels can be used to color correct on location so as to save my editing time. I shoot family events and recently switched from Canon to Fuji (Cause i prefer crop sensor mirrorless and dual cards) but I find the AWB is not as good as my Canons. I always shoot RAW but it would save me a great deal of time in post to be able to get near accurate white balance on location.
Rogue is the best with magmod, I have the gel colors creative kit and special kit adjust 3x CTO CTB CTV (1/4, 1/2, full) in the same kit Maggel are too expensive but I bought some for magbeam/mask only
I have a question re: Magmod gels. The Magmod Advanced Gel set only comes with a full blue gel. Would love to have a 1/2 CTB and I really don't see an option. What do you use?
I am wondering if the Godox round head will fit the Profoto "OCF II Grid & Gel Holder"? These look nice, too. I know there is an Godox adapter (AD-P) but this was built before they brought out the H200R...
Before watching this video i snagged all the Godox stuff for the v1 and now ad200. I finally left one clear dish in the holder and just sit the gel in there loosely without the extra clear dish. It would be nice if some sort of identifier was on the gel tho.
How do you know when to use which gel for color correction? I just got that kit for round head the hard ones, and none are labeled. I'm mainly concerned with shooting in the evening either indoors or outdoors with traditional ceiling and street lights, so want the flash color to match... Which gel should I use?
Just like it sounds, one adds green, one subtracts green (adds magenta). They are for balancing flash with light sources that have a green or magenta tint, such as fluorescent lighting).
Ever tried the Godox BD-07 Barn Door Grid Flash Head? Inexpensive, $28, convenient, and you get a grid and barn doors. On the other hand, only 4 colors (no idea how accurate), and the Head is a bitch to remove once you snap it on the ad200. Also I don't think you mentioned light zoom distance. In gelling backgrounds, do you generally prefer a wide zoom, like 24 mm, or longer? Or does it matter that much?
@@robhallphoto Have you tried the Godox Color Filters CF-07? Lots of colors, 7 x 5. Fastened by Velcro. Cheap. Except the colors are not labeled and I can’t tell which is which!
Do you know if it is possible to find gels for the standard refelctor (AD-S2) for the AD 200 tahn the ones that come on the kit AD-S11. Htese have great qualidty, but are very few
NO! you need to manually lock the White Balance to either Flash or, if you fancy experimenting, nail the exact Kelvin Value that suits both your camera and your taste
