Reenactor Guy Amen. People that carry a knife for self defense without proper training are effing delusional. If you pull a knife to protect yourself you better know what the hell you’re doing, or you’re going to get cut. Even if you DO know what you’re doing you could get cut.
This only works if you happen to be standing in the corner of a caged in boxing ring, with a rubber knife and the moons light shines through the glass window and hits you perfectly, in that special spot.....yes, you might not be ready yet. You and 99.9999% of the worlds population. :)
I pretty much expect to get cut somehow if I ever have to pull a knife in a fight. That being said, my goal is to be able to say "well, you should see the other guy!"
I went on leave from the 101ST and took a 7 day knife fighting course in New Orleans in the 80s....Bill Bagwell bowies with duct tape and chalked edges, Oldschool fighting with a host of technique and dirty tricks. I learned two things: 1: If you are in a knife fight, you are going to bleed. 2: I learned enough in a week to know that I don't ever want to be in a knife fight....if I can help it.
Great video after studying martial arts for nearly 20+ years, I can say that wrestling and grappling has saved my life. John I love your videos and I’m glad to see someone isn’t afraid to share and talk about Jesus. Thanks for the great content. From one brother to another, may God continue to bless you.
Craig, the point you made about not using head control for limb priority was genius. I never thought about that and it’s application in grappling while weapons are involved. Thank you.
My Great Grandfather, who got off of the boat from Scotland said "It's a poor pair of legs that will let a mans ass take a beating"........And he was truly a badass back in the day.
I’ll be honest, this is one of my favorite (probably my favorite) series that you’ve done. Amazing that you can get that kind of training (and that you strive for it) considering how high up the food chain you already are. Amazing, amazing. I do kali but mostly for armed combat that doesn’t start at arms length. But it also has holes for defending yourself from knives one unarmed. I most definitely would prefer wrestling as the base for absolute close quarters.
Warrior Poet Society and you gave a professional fighter with so many more hours of devoted training towards combat a run for his money. Even if he wasn’t using his other skills (maybe some clinch striking incorporated would help free you from an underhook?) And every time you had the gun, you nailed him good.
In the martial arts community I hear how mma style training is useless for weapons and "real world" scenarios. This video confirms my suspicion that those people are incorrect. The simple tactics in this video are amazing. Great video John. You did really well going against a trained, conditioned athlete/fighter.
@@ThePhilipoconnor I agree with what you are saying. Try saying that to the traditional martial arts schools though and you will know what I am talking about.
My issue with MMA is that it's a sporting style, and therefore is not a tactical combat system designed for the street where there are no rules. MMA doesn't teach kicking, for example, and that's a critically important skill set that I see neglected again and again on the street. Still, though, the basic strikes of MMA are great training. Just remember: MMA is a sport where there are rules; on the street, there are no rules!
BP mate there is kicking in MMA what are you talking about and as we said MMA is far from useless if its focus is reorientated to the street rather than competition. As a base art it teaches you how to strike (including kicks), wrestle and grapple. MMA, with tactical and situational awareness, multiple opponents, weapons training and preemptive strikes mixed in as well is far more useful than a traditional art or any sport based one. And there are rules on the street. Its called the law unless you want to end up in prison.
Such intensity, found myself holding my breath. Clean concise teaching, deeply respectful student. Love the real world insertion where John knows he's in a bind and decides to "shoot" through his own arm as a last ditch effort to save his life. Brilliant video.
I dont think he humbled himself. I think this video just makes even more people aware that they would be killed if they decided to accost John in an evil manner lol
Agree, John would have killed me for sure. He probly would have killed the mma guy. Mma guy was going about 70% I figure. I would like to see mma guy go balls out. If he did I don't think John could ever actually get away from him. However John does seem a little stronger which helps short term scramble. No strikes, that would change the game big time.
Extreme thought provoking...at 47 years I'm more or less starting (restarting?) a journey to become a better man, husband, father, protector after focusing on the 'provider' part perhaps too much for the past 2 decades. I have some physical foundations but lots of catching up to do as clearly evidenced by this video. Thanks for these nuggets of gold to assist with the mental portion of the journey.
Eaux though not as old, I’m doing the same. I no longer work due to disabilities sustained in service and I’m just getting to the point of accepting it and bettering myself in those areas. I’ve been exercising where I can, shooting, taking classes in foreign language, classes in survival, cooking. I get up every morning and make sure my family eats a good breakfast. I’ve mastered the omelette and the iron skillet. Walk my kids to the bus stop. Stay armed and ready at all times. Sleep next to a rifle, pistol and fire extinguisher. Rove the house twice a night. Sometimes only once honestly. Cover the house and baby while the wife does homework and assist her in following her dreams. I’ve been learning a great deal about history as well. I would consider myself a better man now than I was in service and that was after a bout of major depression. I can now look at myself in the mirror and I mean straight into my eyes for as long as I want and feel nothing but joy and love for what God has created. Keep it up man and remember, the devil comes to kill, steal and destroy. If you see or hear anything and you believe the consequences fall under any of those categories...it’s Lucifer. (Period)
I'm with you. Just a little further down the road. This is 'No Country for Old Men'. Life is hard on people, you can't stop what's coming,l and it's not waiting on you. Thanks for the comment and the company.
Eaux, may you find bounty in your quest. At 57, I too am trying to rebuild myself after a 30 year military career. Too many years of training and caring for others at the expense of my well being. Now, ten years after my retirement, I am training in earnest. Discipline IS freedom.
This is soooo unrealistic. Everyone knows that the bad guy only attacks with a straight arm overhead stab. Then you easily use an X block(right in front of your face/head) and force the bad guy to stab his own leg. Then you roundhouse kick him four times in the face before setting your foot down. C’mon John
This is fantastic John. We did some practical thought exercises at our academy awhile back with a private security contractor. We worked on knives, guns and securing the aggressor. We ended up with a VERY similar process it seems, glad to see we weren't complete idiots haha.
Forget thousands of dollars on advertising and billboards! This video right here is why I'll take and suggest everyone I know, take classes at ShivWorks!
This video makes me have the overwhelming desire to create a playlist titled, "How to make a badass me". Otherwise captioned as, "If I were John Wick, this is how I'd do it". Such a great video John, thank you.
This is hands down one of the simplest and most logical concepts I have ever seen. What makes the arts in MMA so effective is the ability to spar using them and to learn how to make them work based off your body's abilities. This training has used these concepts and introduced weapons to them. Still, the curriculum is kept simple and easy to understand. The utilization of control makes ot a lot less likely to be seriously injured in the chaos found in a fight, especially compared those fighting arts that try to use speed and prediction in a ridiculously unpredictable situation. Excellent stuff.
Great vid in case I get in a grappling fight with a UFC pro or badass Ranger. My only defense would be to run, call in a JDAM, Glock him first before he got that close. Or use my rifle. Otherwise I’m dead. Cheat, to do otherwise is fantasy.
It seems to me that if your going to win against a MMA fighter when your stuck at close range right from the start you wont win. John eats and breaths this stuff and he would have died if it was real. Dont box a boxer as they say. Also you cant be 100% at all disciplines, its not possible. There are only so many hours in the day and you have to at least eat, shit and sleep sometime,
You are the man! Couldn't agree more.Someone with common sense..I was laughing when I saw this. What about the guys friends stabbing and kicking you from behind while you grapple. Must have a laser beam force field he activates at some point. Pull a weapon , keep distance or run like hell. It's not WWE.
Simple and effective. Never seen any of that kungfu-ninja-action work in any fights I've seen or been into, but always seen simple wrestling win the day. That's how the fight carries out anyway once someone grabs someone else. So being able to wrestle is good. Doing some nonsense wingchunhapkidoaikido will just get your ass whopped. Also it helps to have more strength and bigger mass than your opponent when it goes down to ground (not talking about massive fattness tho... 😅). I'm 190cm and about 145kg with wrestling experience, so against smaller weaker guys that's a plus. But I also know that things change in a fight and you gotta be aware what's going on and if there's a weapon involved, because that changes things always. Following Johns motto: Train hard, train smart. Good video once again.
Good observations. Although... Don't knock Aikido; I read a book (absofreskingloutely cannot remember title or author) about an experiment conducted in the Ranger Battalion, where they brought two Aikido masters in to train two groups of Rangers and pit them against other Ranger companies in military exercises; at one point a Ranger decided it was all BS unless it could win a fight - so it came to that, and it did. And the two test groups outperformed all others in exercises testing observation, movement, and positioning. But the Army brass didn't buy into the idea because basically it 'wasn't macho'.
@@HuntingTarg there’s a reason none of the best MMA fighters train Aikido. Held up against BJJ, Judo, Muay Thai, and wrestling, it is basically useless.
Great respect for John and Craig but putting this stuff out on the civilian carry market is questionable. Years and years and hours upon hours of training on all these guy's parts and notice how tough it was. "Joe six pack"( will survive or die on common sense and God's sovereignty. I have had 2 separate LEO friends taken down by multiple assailants and it didn't end up good. Wolves travel in packs and perps generally are not mma or UFC guys. They are cowardice punks who prey on their victims and run at the first shot. Time and space are key. Situational awareness is highly underrated. Use your brain. Always lawfully cheat. Idk. I just don't buy into this type of stuff for the masses. Could be wrong. Again great respect for those who learn the art and train.
rayhuntermusic absolutely it’s once of the worlds oldest combat systems developed my a nation that was at war almost constantly they had no room for flashy techniques it was brutal effective combat at sword and knife range. Plus greeks are just cool in general lol
One thing that I do want to say, is that the General Special Forces Community was (and still probably is) heavy in BJJ. There’s a problem with this regarding the “levels of a fight” when it comes to BJJ and arts of the like. BJJ and similar arts mainly train in extremely close quarters fights, when that distance should be the least favorable distance in a fight, because that’s where people are the most vulnerable, that’s where their weapons can be used against them, and where they can be hurt more easily. When in a self defense situation it’s best to stay further away, counter and close the distance to neutralize a threat from a favorable angle...preferably with a weapon. (Per- Tu Lam, retired Green Beret). These techniques that they practice in this video are good because it’s hard to defend from a knife attack without another knife in clinch distance. However, wrestling and bjj are not specifically optimized for most other fights because you want to stay out of head-head distance unless it’s undoubtedly favorable. In terms of this specific situation, even as taught by other Martial arts, head control and wrist control still would have worked-grabbing the wrist with the left hand, stepping to the left side and changing direction while bringing the head down with the right hand would have worked...better. You’re in a favorable angle and don’t have to worry about that other attackers hand being free-lesson from Krav Maga.
@@roryp6104 Krav Maga was the first style I thought of; quick, abrupt, no-nonsense. Craig's case for Greco-Roman grappling has real import though; most other styles developed around various martial melee weapons; grappling developed around the Hoplite, whose two weapons were a javelin and a short sword, reasonable analogs to the pistol and knife. The firearm has supersceded most martial melee weapons.
Knees and elbows in a close in, no space situation are very efficient and effective to create space also. Thanks John you did an amazing job brother!👊👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
What's really annoying is the number of gun owners that ignorantly think that if something happens they'll able to use their gun but they never think about a crazy guy putting them on the ground and jumping on top of them and throwing punches at their face. It's kinda hard to pull a gun from concealment with a dude on top of you. Chances are if a guy is going to stab you he's already going to be a few feet away and all you'll have time to do is watch his hands and wrestle him until you break contact.
Hey John, I’ve found Kali (Filipino Martial Arts) & Silat to also be extremely important when dealing with armed aggressors. Check out Francis Fong in metro Atlanta if you feel so inclined. Great video though. Everything it illustrated was absolutely correct.
This was fucking awesome. Bro, you are legit, If there were any questions about your legitimacy, this shit shot any doubt out of the water. Much love brother 🤙🏻
Awesome content! Definitely an eye opener for folks that havent had exposure to what can really happen in a fight in close quarters! Thank you John for pushing this out while still not taking away from what shiv works has to offer. I have taken similar classes in my area with local pd and established fighters. You will be humbled extremely fast regardless of how good you can punch holes in a static target or how fast your draw is off a buzzer. Real world issues require real world tactics and this hits it 100%. I've been through classes and also deployed in Afghanistan, MOD S was 11B because everyone else just supports the infantry. I guarantee anyone at any skill level can learn something from training like this and especially from yourself and those you surround yourself with professionally. Thank you for the content and doing what you do. Hope to take a class with you in the next year.
Holy cow man. That might be the most useful few minutes of ideals and instruction for self defense I have ever heard. And I have heard a whole lot. Read allot too.
When I was a kid, my uncle(MAAG-Vietnam, Green Beret, Ranger instructor) taught me 3 things: 1) you dont have to hide, to be unseen 2) choose any martial art you like. Pick one punch, one kick and one throw you can do right now. Practice it a couple thousand times. You'll win 99% of fights you'll ever get into. 3) theres two ways to get a headshot: by luck, or from behind, while he's shaking out the last couple drops. One is only a little more reliable than the other. Very nice man and always smiling.
Number 2 is what my dad, a martial arts instructor, always focuses on. Don't fear the guy who knows 1000 different kicks, fear the guy who practiced one kick 1000 times.
Truly appreciate this content. You can he strong but if you can ot use that strength effectively it is useless. This training is unbelievably important. No one knows how he or she will respond in a real life ,suck to wind out of your sails because you have no stamina to last in a real fight. Thank you. What an eye opener. I will be enrolling in a jujitsu program to learn these important lessons and ground grappling skills.
That takes MONTHS of training to get where you're able to clinch fight like that. FREE High school (and college) wrestling is one of the best things you can do for your martial background imo.
@@deangullberry5148 Absolutely, two decades out from HS I still have my friends that later got into MMA express how they wished I would have pushed them a little harder to go to a wrestling practice. That said, when I got into BJJ I got my shit pushed in when it got to the ground.
@@deangullberry5148 Have you seen the videos of Rener, Ryron or Royce dismantling wrestlers? As a GJJ guy, with no wrestling experience, I know that wresters are TOUGH opponents. But wrestling vs GJJ comes down to skill and experience on either side. An equally experienced wrestler probably knows more about base, posting, body positioning and reversals then I do and could probably out position me. HOWEVER, I've found that wrestlers tend not to know what to do when they get me on my back - match is over right? - or just roll to their stomach if I get them on their back - RNC all day - and have a hard time out positioning me without exposing limbs or neck. So there's a lot to be said for both - and that's coming from a purely GJJ guy - but to put a blanket statement out there like that? Dude, go challenge Rener or Ryron in Torance CA and learn a little respect....
Yep. Totally realistic. Average dude should go challenge an authority in Fuzen Ryu Jiu jitsu. I mean Goshen Ryu Judo. I mean Brazillian Jiu Jitsu. Yep, one of three dudes that have literally been raised their entire lives for ONE thing. Nice way to represent your business by the way.....
I trained with Jacare in the mid to late 90's, and the early 2000's. Prado mall? So many guys, I can't remember everyone, but I remember and stay in touch with a few...There's so much to cover, no such thing as one best style. Not in the street. Too many variables. 1 on 1 confrontations are unpredictable enough, but 4 on 1 makes things very interesting, if you can call it that. Numbers are only one varible...Either way, training as best you can is always a good idea. If we knew exactly was going to happen beforehand, we would train for only one scenario. At least you are opening the minds of hand to hand to a broader crowd. It can ALWAYS come to this. Always...Better to be as prepared as humanly possible. Cheers man.
Getting punched in the face will drastically change some of your positioning. It's kind of like sport jiu jitsu vs self defense jiu jitsu. There's certain techniques you wouldn't do in a self defense situation because you would be way too exposed to getting your head slammed into the ground or getting kicked in the face.
12:04 just like Die Hard 4.0 where B.W. shot through his shoulder to kill the bad guy behind him. But here you instead shot through your arm and up his ass...
Great video, very thought provoking, thanks. My one constructive criticism is that it focuses on a similar scenario a lot of these kinds of videos do, which is two guys, both in great shape, both with training, facing off in a predetermined scenario. Per your interview with Rory Miller, and I have read his books, these were "fights" not "assaults." Also wrestling generally won't work with a big difference in size, physical condition, gender or age. I would look into some of the "padded suit" training like Model Mugging and Impact Self Defense. And put a small female in as the defender against some big strong guy. Then see what can be accomplished with physical disparities and unexpected scenarios. There are ways to make it work, but it isn't wrestling. It would be cool to get Matt Thomas, the inventor of those systems on your vblog. Thomas says that out of 20,000 women trained over 350 have prevented attacks on themselves, 89 have had fights in which 87 of them triumphed, 51 by knockout. The basic course does not deal with weapons, but the advanced courses do. I have taken one of the rare men's courses and my wife has take a course also. I consider it to be, hour for hour, the best H2H training there is and I have 25 years training in other martial arts. Keep up the good work. I really like your stuff!
Guys, I watched this video several times to capture all valuable moments and one thought stroke me- What if you have multiple opponents to handle ? What is the best tactics to be in THAT case scenario? I would appreciate all professional comments shared here
Dmitry Volkov As always, run if you can. Otherwise, dispatch them as quickly and efficiently as possible. A force multiplier becomes even more important, especially a firearm.
If you can’t run, try to align yourself within the environment in a fashion that keeps them single file in front of you, making it harder for them to attack you simultaneously. Don’t try to wrestle or go the ground, as you can get overwhelmed at that point. If you are a good striker, drop the first one, make space, drop the next, rinse and repeat. But unless your skills are next level, you will lose against multiple attackers.
I think the wisest in the bunch know that the "best" material art is a combination of arts(ideally the "combat tested" ones). No soldier goes to battle with *only* a pistol; no sniper carries only his rifle. Best option is to have a myriad of skill sets for the 6 varying ranges of combat engagement. This was an AWESOME video John!!
I know this is an old comment but I feel like replying anyway. What you say is true, a complete warrior will cover all bases. But most people don't have the time to sink in that amount of training, and when you have limited time, it's best to practice just a few techniques so you can "master" them, rather than practicing a lot of techniques but being terrible at all of them.
I came from Master Bruno Orozco's Channel. He recommended us your channel, and I am so grateful to him for share and recommend us to you. Thanks for teach us the real way to defend ourselves. Greetings from Dominican Republic!!.
Clarence Baluca The whole intention behind pummeling is to accomplish double under hooks, losing access and viable utilization of weapons. So pummeling is key in clinch fighting, even more so with weapons.
Clarence Baluca Pummeling will help you get in a better position on the combatant. Doesn’t necessarily mean your trying to achieve double under hooks either. Pummeling can help you get double under hooks, seat belt position, modified seatbelt, or shuck their arm to get their back. All of which can put you in positions to employ your primary or secondary weapon. 👍
@5:45 This made me wonder how applicable the ancient wrestling form of Glima would be in a modern context. In Glima, you 'win' by wrestling your opponent to the ground with control and then breaking contact and standing up. Seems like a good way to practice getting free for a draw. Also makes me worried about using this from a self-defense legality standpoint, though. But it would be great training for the military or LEO!
I hadn't heard of Gilma before. May be good to know. May be better to know how to defend- most CCW have a good, strong belt that a Gilma trained opponent would use against me. Thanks.
I LOVE these videos! Makes me miss being in a fighting gym... someone needs to work on their stamina there John boy, but I'm not one to talk either. Stamina is so important in so many ways, moreso than strength IMO especially in the real world. Thanks for these videos with Craig!
Being a long time wrestler, from when I was small and up through college whenever I was grappling or sparring with a non-wrestler I've noticed they don't posses the ability to control their hips and or body position nearly as well. In this case, you can see John using basic wrestling fundamentals which keep him in good body position and he can do pretty well.
This looks a lot like catch wrestling and what I was taught by the old timers that knew Okinawan arts. That is one problem with BJJ they have almost zero focus on take downs and hand control on their feet. This is a really good video! I wish I could give this like 50 thumbs up
It really is gym dependent. Some gyms focus on competition BJJ while others will cover real world BJJ which is what the original intended purpose is. My coach covers takedowns twice a week. We also cover feet, leg, and ankle work. Something to take into account when choosing a place to train.
Candidly, I believe Krav Maga is the most effective and practical fighting system out there; what you're looking for is what's known as a "tactical combat system" that is taught to soldiers for fighting on the battlefield. It's about finishing the fight as soon as possible. It's not a "martial art," because it's not an art; rather, it's a combat system designed to prevail in a fight where the only rule is that there are no rules! Ideally, if pursuing Krav Maga, see if you can train with Israeli commando operator; while the American style is more widespread, I believe the skills are better taught by those who learned in the Israel Defense Forces (IDF). Good luck!
go do bjj, roll and get humbled. most of krav in the US is just washed up karate sensei's changing their curriculum to be more realistic and sell better. "only rule is that there are no rules!" I've heard this one but generally krav but the times I've partook in krav it seemed like they had more rules beyond even wrestling and jits. I'm not downing 'real' krav or the like but in my experience its been a little mcdojo-ey. Nice thing about grappling arts is that you can practice at speed and not get cte
Everything you see here is used in Krav, with the addition of unconventional striking. Notice how no one was kneeing each other in the groin, chopping the trachea, stomping insteps, head-butting, etc. Grappling is a good foundation, but you can't hold on to somebody if you get your thumb broken and your throat collapsed.
@@joshuamarin5723 "Everything you see here is used in Krav" grappling like this while technically endorsed by Krav, you won't actually learn anything like this. "you can't hold on to somebody if you get your thumb broken" you actually can and you're over selling small joint manipulation. "chopping the trachea" " throat collapsed" lol this doesn't actually happen "Grappling is a good foundation" and krav will neglect that "stomping insteps" doesn't do much of anything unless someone has a particularly low pain threshold. again to defend krav, it's not bad martial art or anything like that, its just not what autists like this say it is.
I’m a big fan of Krav, Muay Thai, Boxing, Kickboxing, Jiu Jitsu, Kenpo, Sambo, etc to name a few. Just thought I’d throw that out there in case some of you folks haven’t heard me say that in the past.
Hey John! I was hoping you could do a video talking to Craig about being called out on the Primary & Secondary Podcast a few weeks ago. One of the panelists essentially said Craig's RU-vid videos teach people how to murder unarmed people. I think its bull shit and figured you would too.
To be that close without doing anything to break the human machine seems dangerous to me. To grapple with an attacker, whether he has a weapon or not, or if you know he has one or not, without causing injury or, in the case of making an arrest, having control of the attacker, puts one at a huge disadvantage. This is a classic example of why thinking that one has to match strength for strength is outdated and why wrestling in a life-and-death encounter is counterproductive to one's health. If the guy is bigger, faster, or stronger, you lose! A real fight doesn't have to follow rules of the ring and one is justified to cause GBH in these circumstances. Cause an injury or two WILL allow you to disengage because he will never be able to shake off real injury. While your posts are usually great, I am not a fan of this one! In my opinion, this is an example of what not to do.
12:00 "so i chose to drive rounds.. through my arm... to kill him" lmao. I laughed pretty hard at that. Maybe it was the way you said it. But realistically, its the thing to do. Non lethal wound to prevent being incapacitated.
Please more of these videos. Currently doing bjj/mma 1 to 3 times a week and I can say that it has made me 100 percent more confident on the job in law enforcement
John, I could hear your heart pounding all the way over here! Hahaha! OUTSTANDING drills, which drove home the points you were trying to demonstrate. Great vid!
The level of training today available is stunning. After retiring from 28 years of LE and SWAT it's great to see this stuff and the progression of skills.
Thanks for another great video with Craig Douglas...everything from him is just top notch. This is some good gross motor skill simple stuff (not easy but simple). There are SOOO many ridiculous fancy move videos out there which are just plain silly. Thanks for the top notch content!
If you ask a krav maga guy or an arnis guy 50% of that is suicide...no eye poke? No creating or closing distance? What if the Uther guy is 3 times your size? What happens if the knife is actually out and flying to your face? Is that a closing distance time? You are on to something i give you that thats creative and with some Japanese jiu jitsu you can actually make something out of it but *do not* tech it as self defense. Cause people will die.
