@@Belows682 - we don't refer to any of our acrylic color lines as "soft body", but if you're referring to our Fluid and SoFlat colors, you will find a lot of miniature painters recommend these colors - like this guy: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iLkSQjG9oLg.html (there are others!)
My wife is a more traditional artist and we did some general color mixing palates with miniture paints versus artist acrylics. It basically converted me to using artist arcylics for miniture painting. She was stunned that miniture paints don't say what is in them usually and that the reason why I wasn't happy with the colors mixing was because there was too much white or black in the paints.
This is good to know - I was in the local arts/crafts store last night and saw that Golden has several different lines of their awesome acrylics now. I used to use them almost exclusively when I was painting canvases. Yesterday I saw their "new" high flow acrylics and wondered how good those would be for painting miniatures. I think I might have seen theses So Flats as well - I just didn't pay attention to them not knowing if they would be any good for miniatures, too. I am really new to the miniature painting hobby, so I didn't buy any of them yet - I wanted to stick with known miniature paints for a while before venturing out away from the norm. But I might be more inclined to venture out now based on this comment about mixing paints! Thanks!
Same here, I use Winsor and Newton artist grade acrylics, or any artist grade acrylic to be honest, and always the CMYKW palette with burnt amber/sienna
I am a canvas painter as well as a mini painter, and I can tell you that Golden is the cream of the crop as far as acrylics go. Not surprised you enjoy these ones.
I have the same experience. I don't do canvas painting anymore, but when I did, I found that Golden Acrylics were the best of the best. I always used them as my primary brand of paints!
Your intros are absolute gold. I come for the hilarity and stay for the fun of watching you deal out knowledge in a way that feels like a conversation at a friend's table.
The bonus here is that Golden is a really awesome company if you look into how they're organized. It's great to support companies that support their employees.
Hey Ninjon, awesome video! I love Golden acrylic paints, but just a heads-up, Cadmium and Cobalt pigments are toxic (they're heavy metal pigments) so should be handled with some care. Figured that would be worth mentioning. That paint job looks AWESOME btw!
As far as I know, the pigments in "cadmium" acrylic yellows and reds aren't actually the cadmium pigment. They just use the name to describe the hue they have created. For instance, Prussian Blue, the pigment the paint color is named after, is insoluble in acrylic medium, so any Prussian Blue acrylic paint you have is actually another, very similarly colored, pigment or combination of pigments.
@@Deager1975 - just a clarification, when we include the word "Hue" at the end of a color name it is an indication that the color is intended to replicate the color space of a particular pigment or color (ex. hazardous pigments and/or historical fugitive colors we are making with lightfast modern pigments). When you do not see "Hue" after a Cadmium or Cobalt color, the paint has actual Cadmium or Cobalt pigment. The common chemical name is usually on the label well to inform artists about what they're using. The Cadmium colors in SoFlat are all actual Concentrated Cadmium Zinc Sulfide pigments. The High Flow and Fluid color lines, by contrast, do not have any genuine Cadmium colors to discourage artist from spraying them. You should see "Hue" in the names within those color lines.
I'm so happy you did this video. I've done a few tests with this line and I was amazed at how matte they were. I did have a bit of trouble getting them thin and smooth enough, though, so I didn't end up doing much. After watching this, I may just give them another shot!
I recently started experimenting with these paints, and they are awesome. The Pyrrole Red is probably the best red I ever tried, and the Payne's Grey is a very nice "universal" shadow color (doesn't work with everything, but almost).
Golden does a better job than most artist companies to communicate their paint qualities. They have a blog, Just Paint, where they deep dive into the science of acrylics. Worth a read even if you don't use their paint.
@@GoldenPaints my pleasure. I'm really glad you folk are getting some love in the mini-sphere with So Flat. Just too bad it didn't come out a few years earlier. I started down a limited-palette path with your 8-pack High Flow paints but they were too dang glossy for me. Then I tried to do limited palette with Vallejo but it was the worst: everything came out grey. When Kimera came out I never looked back. Even then they were so hard to source I would have switched to So Flat a couple of years ago. Now my FLGS stocks them. Still, don't tell Kimera but I am just waiting for an excuse to switch.
@@necpwnz checked out these paints online after watching the video and Amazon sent me a lighting deal notice after. Not only was it the cheapest price I had found they said “last one left” so I pulled the trigger without much hesitation. To my surprise they arrived in a BLICK arts box with an invoice addressed to Amazon not me, and get this.. THEY PAID MORE FOR THE PAINTS THAN THEY SOLD THEM TO ME FOR!!! Lol get Rekt Amazon, get Rekt.
Hello and thank you for the presentation of this color range! I have also treated myself to some of these colors and am thrilled. Especially Pyrolle Red is one of the most opaque and vibrant reds I have ever worked with.
Just discovered this channel, really great stuff! Well presented and fun to watch, ended up watching way more videos than I intended. I think you have a really unique painting style, your color combinations are absolutely awesome, being able to come up with that stuff is a gift.
After you stated mixing the colors to create your own paints, I got an idea. Bet. Use those same paints to mix your own and paint a Space Wolf, a Flesh Tearer, and a Salamander (Or another chapter of you choosing). I think that would be proof of concept and help solidify your argument for using these acrylics over the other brands of paints. CHALLENGE ISSUED! 🤙
Awesome break from the status quo. Golden brand has been a low key favorite of mine for a while. I need to check out the specific line you cover in this video. Their high flow airbrush paints are a go to for a satin/low gloss and super vibrant/pigmented paints that spray beautifully.
Love the HFA as well! They sell the HFA medium too, so if you want to modify your mini paints to behave as such, or thin the opacity it works well. It also helps it run smoother through an airbrush as an alternative to the Golden Airbrush Medium.
Golden Fluid acrylics are very intense and pure, great for mixing, maybe comparable to Kimera?. In their heavy body line, I've only tried Golden Artist Acrylic in titanium white, and WOW is it great.
Golden and Liquitex are great. I come from a fine art background so I have been aware of them for a long time but it always freaks me out seeing hobby folks get suckered into buying stuff like Lahmian Medium.
@@PaulKim-lw3sy it's just acrylic medium. You can get acrylic medium in a variety of finishes from Liquitex or Golden for a tiny fraction of the price.
There is tremendous satisfaction in mixing your own colors (when you are successful at it!). I started doing it because I was cheap… I kept doing it because I realized I was getting better and better at it.
One of my go to paints when I was very heavily active in Warmachine was Folk Art's metallic black paint for my warjacks, weapons, and armor. Gives depth AND helps establish the heavy metal amror used in the game.
Congrats Jon, it seems like you’re starting to find your video identity. Your spliced up goofs and gags went from a bundle at the end to a tasteful sprinkle throughout. I enjoy this evolution greatly. From here on I’d encourage you to experiment with editorial evolutions, shots compositions, camera placement, light fixtures. You’ve shown how creative you can be with models video materials thus far…don’t stop experimenting.
I absolutely love these paints for my "artsy fartsy stretched canvases" lol. I'm a canvas painter first, minis came later. I haven't used the so flat on minis yet. I normally use the Citadel contrast paints as my base layer, and then add details with my other golden acrylic paints. The so flat series is new, but I already love them. The fluorescents are awesome 👌
Absolutely love goldens from my time in art school and with all of my fine art projects I do, I’m glad they made this line to widen their breadth of users!! 🥳
Great suggestion, I'll definitely try these out! To be fair, mixing paint for an army project, especially if it's an ongoing one, may not be the most efficient thing. I myself remember dreading paint mixing back in the early 2000s when I started doing this hobby stuff - you usually had only one or two brushfulls of mixed paint before it dried on your tile or piece of cardboard or old china plate. However, much of the complexity and problems of paint mixing in general is massively lessend when using a wet palette. On that thing, mixing the paint you've already got on there comes entirely naturally.
I've recently been interested in getting into mini painting, and I've been wondering if there were any artist paints that would work well as mini paints. (Because honestly a lot of the mini paints seem like a rip off compared to artist paints.) I'm glad to learn that there is!
Picked up the Kimera range on your recommendation. So far have only used the red, still hesitant to dive fully into it because the desire to do anything but the basic color mixing has eluded me.
They now sell a secondary colors set. Thing is, that set comes with a fantastic booklet with tons of examples for each hue: different reds, blues, violets, golds, etc. I wish they put out that document as a PDF, I think people need those simple guides to see all the variations you can get with only a few pigments.
Crikey, mixing colours isn’t complicated. To lighten a colour add white, to darken it add black. Only thing you have to remember is that red with a dash of white doesn’t lighten the red - it turns it to pink. Put a few blobs of paint on your pallette and try mixing a little of them in various combinations. I find the most useful colours for slightly changing the shade of a paint are sand, flesh and grey.
Just know your colour wheel. Remember that your primaries are cyan, magenta, yellow. Any colour is a combination of those (red being magenta with yellow for example). Desaturate with the complimentary (opposite colour of your tone) and remember that white and black are tints that will both dull the vibrancy of your colour.
I have the same suggestion as the other James, but I suggest also picking up an actual color wheel. A lot of them have a color mixing wheel on the back.
Great video, I just got the Kimera paints and they make a world of difference for me. They also added tips and tricks for mixing with pure pigments, which made it less hard en scary to start with. Having full control over your paints really made it a lot easier to get a nice fineshed result. You saying that they are very similar makes me want to get these Golden paints.
Hi Jon! Loved this vid and the other content you do! I've learned a lot and enjoyed along the way! Sincerely top notch stuff. You might already know, but just in case and as a general PSA, I was looking at the Golden site earlier and saw that the SoFlat Titanium White was recently recalled for several failed batches in the 2 oz, 4 oz, and 16 oz. Looks like they were willing to replace product and or offer solutions from what I was reading, though that was back in December so I'm not sure what they are doing now. Maybe they got the batches off of the shelves before you got yours, and you may already know, but figured I'd mention it just in case. Also worth noting for anyone else who may have some and didn't know. The Golden site has more info in case anyone needs as a general PSA. Nice to see them willing to replace the product too. Good stuff. Really excited to try their stuff to try making my own paints, as well as their high flow acrylics. Anywho, have a good one and enjoy some tendies!
I started out painting on canvas a couple of years ago. I found these paints back in November of last year and bought one because of the richness of the color. I fell in love with it for adding effects to terrain pieces but balked at buying more because of the costs. Meanwhile spending ungodly amounts on little dropper bottles without thinking about per oz costs. Thank you John, you've made me finally realize that I had found a great product months ago without realizing their potential for my minis!
As an extra tip for working with acrylics: you can buy mediums and mix them with the paint you have. For example, I cannot do any realism without adding a slow dry medium to my paint. (I prefer oils but space and money restrictions mean I can't use them right now) You can probably buy any heavy body artist paint and then get a matte medium to mix with to get the same consistency as the Golden paint you have. Which is important since this line is less likely to have ALL pigments available but the standard line from them will. You might need to add a tad bit of water to get it flowing more or could also buy a flow medium to add in as well. Personally I just use water to get my acrylics to flow more though
Hmm well, I am always glad for tips and tricks as well as products. Just knowing the options are their helps you try new stuff. It's like your dry brushing vid, I tried it a little then but now I've seen it and for me it is tool I use for texturing things that I didn't think of before. Lots of the videos are like that, tools, tips and techniques. I like the format a lot.
Any paint range I can pick up at my local art store instead of ordering it is really appreciated. Thanks for the video! Love the painted model too! Wild colors!
I swear between you and Miniac, you're ticking all the boxes for me. Fun personalities, great videos, and metal and synthwave music lol Keep it up Jon 🤘
I like the matt paints but sometimes super matt paint leave the model feeling chalky even though its not. when I get low on my Pro Acryl I might give some of these a try.
There I was... thinking I have my color addiction under control.... and then you drop this very interesting video. :) One important thing that I didn't catch you mentioning in the video is that some pigments - like PY35 that is used in the Cadmium Primrose - are toxic. So no brush licking! Might not be obvious to everyone. I'm a big fan of Kimera Pure Pigments and Scale75 Artist Acrylics - so these look really good! Great video!
You also shouldn't be airbrushing any of the cadmiums or cobalts. The toxic pigments in acrylic paints are largely stopped from entering the bloodstream by the acrylic medium itself but all bets are off when inhaled.
That's a great paint job. I was really surprised at how loose the initial wet blending was. Also, the high-energy marketing delivery of the information was fun.
Likely gonna pick some of these up. Also ty for the motivation at the end. Will take any I can get. That paint job was really cool and interesting too.
I've just started painting mini and i had a bunch of artist paint at home and that's what i started with. The result is pretty good, and same goes with the oil wash i just feel its better and nuln oil.
What a perfect video. The intro was spot on, and my only gripe was that these paints sounded like kimera, and you nailed that as well. You get all of the likes.
I love the Golden SoFlat paints! I'm glad you got them :). When thinned with water though they tend to bead on my Vallejo primer, not so much on more matte primers like the Monument Hobbies one. The level of control you have on opacity is amazing, I can't decide whether I prefer the Monument paints or these on use on my minis.
Oh also if you guys want to try before you buy, my recommendation is to go with the split primary colors, and add a Cyan, Magenta. Black and White too. So expect like 8-10 colors.
The pop set he linked to (in the CAN store) has red, blue, yellow, black, white, and green (“Six 2 oz. jars: Cadmium Primrose, Naphthol Red Light, Ultramarine Blue, Permanent Green, Black and Titanium White.”). I really only have a couple of bottles (red, blue, green, and yellow in Vallejo’s Model range), and have been wanting to have a set of colours to get going with. Looked at the other single-pigment range to consider getting a couple of those core colours and try mixing. This could be a possible starting point either. Hmmm…
I ordered some of these after watching your vid and hands down these are the best paints I've used on minis. I've used Golden heavy body acrylics in the past but did not like the way they thinned out. These paints are amazeballz!!!
This is great timing as my collection of Reaper paints are finally starting to run out. I've been trying to decide what to get next and I think I'll give this stuff a shot and see what happens.
I’ve been looking for an artist grade acrylic to use for minis for awhile now… saw your video, ran out and bought their starter 6 pack and a Cobalt Teal. Very impressed, thanks for pointing them out!
Putting a main topic of the video on the side I need to thank you Jon again for spreading the motivation and actually believing in people. I struggle a lot with just pushing myself to paint, but once I’m at my desk with brush in my hand it just work. Keep going man!
Love your content, you seem like you’re always searching for different ways to paint. I’d love you see you do a comparison paint job of brushes, basic cheap starter brushes from a hobby shop/craft store to the more pro ones you are using. Might be interesting to see how a cheaper brush is actually costing more in the long run.🤷♂️
I love your channel and appreciate the introduction to the So Flat Paint line. I've ordered a starter kit to try it out. I imagine I'll need to get a ton of dropper bottles so that I can mix my own. I didn't know about the color mixing issues with white or black but it makes sense. Normally I love your painting (far better than anything I could do, I'm not a fan of the way this model turned out. It's the face or the helmet, or whatever that is. Those yellow highlights make it look like, well, like a painted model. I love the green on purple in the lower half ... just something about those yellow highlights. But I'm new to painting so maybe it's just me.
I've used a bunch of the soflat's for miniature painting for about 6 months. Payne's Grey is one of my favorite dark colors in the line, So is their Turquoise. The white is also far superior than just about any miniature paint line white.
Love this video. I have been using the same tubes of golden open (titanium white and carbon black) for years and I love it. The thick and creamy texture makes them wonderful for mixing colors. Open has longer dry times, giving more time to work with blending. So… safety lol. Do NOT lick your brush with artist colors. Mini companies try to use non toxic colors in their paint ranges however artist colors don’t care. I.E cadmium is a toxic metal. That being said cadmium red is such a beautiful color so it makes sense why they keep using it.
I am currently loving golden's fluid acrylics and had wondered about the soflat range, so Thank You for reviewing it. I'll be getting some of these. The occasional gloss finish being one of the few gripes I've had with the fluid acrylics. Before I began using them I thought mixing colours would be a hassle but it has become one of my favourite parts of the process. I feel like I am exploring and playing instead of what feels sometimes like painting by numbers. Y'all's mileage may vary.
Golden High Flow and Fluids are my go to paints for brush and airbrush. These come in nice dropple bottles too, unlike the SoFlat line. Their mediums are awesome as well (airbrush, matt, ...).
You can never own enough paint, I love the golden range of paints and I covet the bottles I have, might have to check out the flat range…my ninjon Artus opus texture pallets also came today so time to give them a go….thank for the video.
This topic was impeccably timely. I was on my way out to buy a bunch of Vallejo paints at my local hobby shoppe and wanted to check a few things online first. I saw this video in my feed and watched it before I left. I scratched the miniature paints from my list and hoped for the best at a few art stores close by. I came home with Cad Red Light, Pyrrole Red, Phthalo Blue, Bismuth Vanadate Yellow and one that I would have absolutely passed over - Yellow Green. Hoping to do them justice. Thanks for this tip.
Sure looks like an interesting alternative, now to wait 6+ months until it's available in Sweden. Oh, and there's NO such thing as to much paint, just to little space to store it!
As a fellow swede, I'd like to recommend trying out Liquitex Acrylic Gouache, I primarily paint with it and to me it ticks off the same boxes as mentioned in the video about the SoFlat's :)
Been using Golden's Open Acrylics to paint minis for a while now. They even mix into miniature paint/other acrylics and extend the dry time, so you can have a nice creamy oil-like blend on a miniature with a reliable dry time of under 24 hours. I have a few soflat colors around for non-miniature painting so I'll give 'em a shot next time I paint a mini.
Worth mentioning Golden: High Flow Acrylics, been using their Titanium white for miniature painting for a while, because it is very close in function to an acrylic ink and in white that means good enough coverage for blending and edge highlighting, without chalky results, also works well through an airbrush.
Be careful with artist grade paints through an airbrush. They often (usually) contain heavy metals which can be fairly toxic, more so when aerosolized. Most miniature-specific paints are blended using cheaper pigments, so it is less of an issue with those.
@@fleetadmiralmatteo4123 Good advice but you can check these and they are marked: Health & Safety - There are currently no known health hazards with associated with anticipated use. Underneath is the recommendation for using a respirator when spraying : )
Lord Of The Print is the Greatest of All Time! Their current subscription for Dec 2022 is incredible and it feels like they keep getting better. Normally i dont pay for 3D models cause there are good free ones online but I HIGHLY recommend them!
Picked up the core set + burnt umber and I have to say that burnt umber is beautiful and will be my base coat for leather moving forward (formerly Rhinox Hide)
Gotta say the Golden brand airbrush paints are great! I've used this on a variety of projects like miniatures, terrain and star wars helmets. Mixing paints is important skill to learn
Forgot my brown base color last time i visited the family, so mixed my own from black, screamer pink and an ochre tone. Was pleasantly surprised by the result.
I love the golden high flow for the airbrush. They are really glossy but nothing AK ultra matt can`t cover. I think it is great that they just tell you on the bottle if its transparent or more opaque and they also have a brushstoke over white and black on the bottle, so you can see the real color and opacity for yourself. I am definitely trying this line, thanks for the tip. I feel that miniatures paints are often not meant to help you create nice paint jobs but just to sell you more bottles and paint variances that you don`t need. You want a type of yellow, here are seven bottles, but they don`t provide the exact tone of yellow (when dry) nor the opacity. So just guess and hope that is the color you need, or come back the next day and buy another. I am slowly switching my miniature paints for artists paint where they provide you with the relevant information about the product.
