The Best Petty Doctor Doom Reed Richard's Moment...Well One Of Them 

I like to think that Doom just switches body's with Reed sometimes to just do petty shit, like moving stuff around his lab or say dumb things during interviews.

The great dichotomy between the FF and Doom is just how easily Reed could have BEEN Doom. Without Ben's realism to ground him, without Sue's love to keep him looking on the human side, without Johnny there to lighten him up and getting him to unclench every once in a while. Doom is just as smart and as capable as Reed but he has no first family, no one to look after him and the only people he's ever had to that description he's sacrificed for the sake of power and arrogance. There are multiple universes where Doom becomes a hero because he has the support he so desperately needs to become a better man, and even more universes where Reed becomes more like Doom during his accident but remains a hero because of the Four still being able to support him and hold him steady. One need only look at the Ultimate Universe to see just what a Reed without the Four behind him is capable of.

Personally I like the previous issue where The Fantasic Four get evicted from their apartment because Reed lost all their money buying bad stock, and Namor used buried treasure to buy a movie studio so he could hire them to play in a movie about themselves, which was really a trap to kill three of them and marry one.

I love that Doom took the body of the member with arguably the weakest powers either because his rivalry with Reed was more important than success or because he believed Mr Unobservant would somehow be the biggest threat to his infiltration plans.

Doom Reed’s combination name is Room and that brings me joy.

My favorite part of the episode is that Reed managed to take control of Doom's castle while possessing Doom's body because he (rightly) guessed that Doom programmed all the Doombots to fear him, and Reed manipulates that fear expertly.

What gave me a chuckle from the "Doom"/Sue marriage is the reaction shots of all the characters who have a personal history with the parties, or at least some kind of stake of the geopolitics of the MU, but it's also like, "What does GAMBIT think of all this?"

"Would Reed sign off on this?" Reed Richards would be so distracted by building a transdimensional doorway or unstable molecule underoos or whatever he'd sign off anything you handed him. (This is why Ben should have handled all if the Four's business interests.)

I thought you were going to talk about Terror in Tinytown, where he shrunk the FF and made them believe they were ordinary people, and stuck around to berate Reed as his overbearing boss. His pettiest moment in my opinion.

Looking back, it's very funny to see them advertising "Reed Richards... is a villain????" like it's a shocking twist 1) when we've had some variety of evil Reed kicking about for the last 20ish years and 2) he was kind of an asshole to begin with anyway

17:17 "Who got that engagement shot? I hope it was Peter." You can see that shot, and the entire engagement photoshoot in Peter Parker's new book Webs II

I have to say my favorite body swap episode of a superhero TV show was when Lex Luthor swapped bodies with the Flash and had no idea who he was. Wally's (not Barry's my mistake) adventures as Lex Luthor we're also super hilarious.

Please talk about the episode of the Fantastic Four where Magneto bitches about traffic and has an existential crisis when Reed tricks him with a wooden gun.

I guess you can say this fantastic trope it’s a fun way to easily switch things

When Doom was supposedly killed in FF 260 by Terrax and had to swap minds with a regular guy who witnessed the battle in a crowd.Aunt May was also there.Just imagine if Doom swapped minds with her instead.

"You can tell Reed is gonna be the vilain." Reed Richard is always the vilain. Even when he's the good guy.

Doom first conceived of body swapping due to his shock at the rising prices at the Latverian Sizzler's All One Might Care To Consume buffet . Thirty slozniks seemed high to Doom . He's NO ONE'S FOOL after after all . So in addiction to his eight dimensional dinner plates Doom developed the ability to consume that mountain of turnips , radishes and pickled beets using the bellies of various easily mind controlled dupes . Doom savored the flavor and those fools "enjoyed" the bloating , gas and mysterious weight gain . Doom remains svelte , slender yet PERFECTLY BUFF and Doom's financial prowess is the envy of lesser , hungrier restaurant goers .

I feel like writing Reed is a careful balancing act: he's always been meant to be a flawed and arrogant person with nonetheless a fundamental goodness in him, but how that shows varies wildly--half the time he's just a bit absent-minded yet still a loving father and husband, and half the time he's a dismissive jerk and a control freak (not helped by retcon upon retcon making questions as to whether or not he was evil all along). For me, definitive Reed is either by Mark Waid or Jonathan Hickman, where both runs have him taking important self-reflections that allow him to grow as a person. Which are then subsequently ignored because Civil War needed him to act like more of an asshole than usual and no one will ever forget that.

World's Greatest Heroes was a bloody masterpiece. I still wish they followed through with the Peter/Spidey cameo

The extreme Pettyness of Doom should be explored more. I do believe he is the one comic character more petty than golden age superman.

I already mentioned my super love of the series prior ("You made fun of Hulk's Mama!" and Johnny screaming while She-Hulk was transforming), if I wanted good F4 content in screen, this was it (I also watch A LOT of Canadian TV, so this cast was a who's who of on screen and Canadian vo). I honestly didn't know this was a adaptation until years later, now in hindsight, it makes a lot of sense, it's such a early comic booky thing to do. Favorite petty moment from Doom? Valeria Richards's name... Doom is a Giga-Chad for that.

I was always really fond of this series because this was the only time that I felt like they did Sue Richards justice. There are so many episodes where they show why she is the strongest member of the team. I think this may be the only adaptation that really did her right.

I loved that early '60s Fantastic Four story because I thought it was so hilarious how much fun Doom was having when he was impersonating Reed. He was having so much fun that he couldn't resist keeping up the deception a little longer just so he could toy with the heroes a little more. It was very entertaining, and that episode of the animated series adapted the story nicely.

I had a collection of old Fantastic Four comics as a kid, including this one, and what Doom says about the dinosaurs and brain size has always hurt *my* brain. Also the image of Doom laughing in Reed's body haunts me. Why does it look like that!?

I quite liked that cartoon. It is pretty underrated. I loved its take on Doom. Also I loved that they got Dan Slott to write the She-Hulk episode since he was the current writer of the comic at that time.

I have a real soft spot in my heart for Doom levels of melodrama. But one has to wonder; who is the biggest Diva? Doom definitely has his moments, but so do Thanos and Apocalypse.

"Re-inbiggens them," the most awesomest word ever!!!

Is it strange that no matter what Doom does in Reeds body he can't do or be more SUS than Reed is already?

I remember when Sue gave me a Spicy Fan photo of her for the holidays. It was a blank photo but it had the FF logo on it, so I guess....Thank You? ❤ -T'Challa

My favorite petty Doom moment is from the 20th anniversary issue from 1981, written and sumptuously drawn by John Byrne. Here they play with the miniaturisation theme again, as we have the four seemingly back where they started in 1961 pre-powers and Reed constantly befuddled and tormented by Victor. It's all in a miniature town which the four are connected to courtesy of the Puppet Master and Doom! So he could kill them but no! Doom must torment Reed! ....until Reed figures it out and gives their miniature selves powers and they defeat him and *he* is stuck in the miniature town. Hands down one of my favorite FF stories and has Doom in full petty vengeance mode.

The “Is Spider-Man Involved?” caption made me laugh so hard that the hot tea that was in my mouth is now all over my rug. Ps. Am I the only one who remembers that Doom was the apprentice of The Marquis of Death? Because Marvel never bring it up, even though there’s a lot of stories that can come from there.

FF 2006 was the best representation👍I wondered why it never got much notice but then I'm thinking because the FF has always been "C" listed so when it was finally done right no one believed it 🤔

*Sasha: **_"Also we're promised a gorgeous pin-up of the Invisible Girl. So I'm expecting the best looking blank page that I've ever seen."_* 🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭

Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes is AMAZING! Sure, it's somewhat juvenile with it's humor- more than other shows in the proposed "Yostiverse" - but it's still REALLY good. My favorite adaptation of the FF. Especially the voice acting! The voice cast is AMAZING. Any time I show the show to a friend I get the same first reaction: "I love Mr Fantastic's voice"

I would love to see you cover the issue where Doom takes control of Sue’s body and cites her as the most powerful of the FF

I really hope the mcu makes justice to doom as villain, he’s been forgotten far too long

I loved the Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes plot where they switched bodies. As a kid, I hadn't ready any comics or seen any body swaps between the characters before, so I thought this was leading to a major storyline that would've continued in the show. I loved that show so much.

Realy loved all the Reed x Sue moments in this show, in my opinion this was the best portrayal of the two, I am incredibly nostalgic for this tv series, I used to watch it on Cartoon Network as a child, now I want to re-watch it. So, thank you

I really liked Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes...outside of Johnny's voice. Brian Dobson is my favorite Thing voice, though I think the '94 series had the overall best cast in terms of the core four. I really liked its art style (again outside of Martin Mystery Johnny) and I think that it did a good job of making Sue's character work and give her more of a set role on the team since her and Reed aren't explicitly an item or have gone out yet unlike the comics and other adaptations.

Doom Reed: Hey Sue, I love you. Screw science research. Let us make out tonight. Sue: Por Que? Reed are you ok? Doom Reed: Never been better!

Worth noting that the Chris Claremont storyline alluded to is the first appearance of Valeria! Sorta...This Valeria is a teen aged time traveler who came back from a future where she is the daughter of Sue and Doom (hinted to be a Reed who never escaped Doom's body, but she doesn't know that). The Valeria we know is Waid retconning Byrne's famous "miscarriage" storyline...I can't imagine Byrne is happy about that, and as much as I do like Val, I have misgivings about that as well.

I am actually watching this series currently at the time of recording and love it. Just watched the Mole Man episode yesterday. Another solid adaptation of a goofy early F4 story

this show was the shiiiiiit when i was watching it. it seriously cemented the ff as one of my favorite things in comics.

THANK YOU!!! you mentioned my favorite cartoon... yeah I wasn't crazy about animation but the stories were pretty great. Also I think some of the writers were the guys that did hulk vs movies which are pretty great! My favorite episode is when Johnny and Ben stick namor in a tank and Johnny goes...here fishy fishy fishy...Ben says do you like pebbles or flakes? LMAO

I never saw that cartoon series. There's so many I missed while in college.

Oh, boy I have some nice memories from that show. It was funny as hell. Preparing for a mission: Reed: Johnny, I want you to... Johnny: (to Sue and Ben) Haha! He picked me first, losers! Underground cave: Reed: Oh, I have the perfect thing. It's and halogen lantern that... Johnny: (lights up his hand). OK, let's go. Reed: But my lantern. It's made for... Ben: Don't worry. We'll use your lamp another time, buddy. Johnny is super charged, emiting more heat than usual. Flies close to the ground, melting the tires of a car. The couple inside: Woman: I love you Johnny!! Man: Gee. Thanks a lot, Torch.

That cartoon was part of my childhood!

Omg I need to know what issue it is where Doom swaps bodies with Daredevil, it sounds amazing from the premise alone. Unrelated I have the 60s omnibus run on Daredevil and as you noted it is fascinating to see in the early comics where the characters are. In Daredevil at least it takes a long time before Foggy gets any personality traits above best friend and low key jealous.

I have a memory of this show, a scene during a gala/party after the battle of the episode was done and the fantastic 4 were atending/hosting and its a stablishing shot of Johnny on stage performing a rap remix version of the infamous "flame on song" he also performed in an older series, only for a few seconds before the shot pans off to Sue & Reed talking 😳 I swear it happend!

So glad to see the love for this FF series. I liked it a lot, and hope you do some more videos about it.

I’ve never seen that show but I’m gonna check it out now. Loved your vid!

I was never able to catch this show when it was on. Thanks for reminding me about it, I'll go back and stream it.

I've been meaning to give that series a watch. Art looks good and i think the voice actors are perfect. & I love a good body swap story!

Love your channel. Just watched your live stream from Feb. Code of Hero is the best Beast Wars episode.

Nice to see some Fantastic Four content on the channel...!

I’m glad to see you mention the FF cartoon, “World’s Greatest Heroes.” I appreciate the faithful adaptation and attention to detail (look for Ben’s custom toilet, complete with grinder cylinders).

Thank you for shedding light on this HIGHLY underrated FF show! It was one of my favorite iterations of the team. So many great episodes. Especially the ones with guest appearances from She-Hulk and Ant- Man.

Thank you Sasha, the ever-studying (in a Casual way), your passion is duly noted, and the Invisible Woman wig and eye shadow are AWESOME. I would have to say that when the Submariner returns is one of the best early FF stories. Namor sending a hoard of deep sea monsters to punish New York would be EPIC to capture in a modern sense. Superior review and I am sorry I missed this particular cartoon series, looks like it was pretty good. (may have to look it up) PEACE dear Sister and God bless.

These videos are the reason I'm happily a long term supporter of this channel (Over 18 months). The content is always eclectic in the extreme.

I LOVE the aughts FF show. So slick, so well constructed. And looking back at it now, so consistent with the zeitgeist of the FF. This helped me -get- the FF. And to this day, these are the voices I hear when I read an FF book. Now there were times I felt weird like I was jumping in at the middle of the story. But now I see, there were broadcasting shenanigans that essential made me do that. Thanks for the context, Sasha.

Something I like about your videos about Silver Age comics is how it can really highlight the interplay between creativity and productivity/deadlines. So many monthly comics (then and now) will feel rushed, or like non-final drafts, yet they still manage to speak to things in interesting ways. It's what makes subsequent adaptations cool (when done well), since it allows the story to be refined, even if it isn't in the same way that the original creators might have refined it in the original medium.

Doomreed's laughing face is amazing. REEDPOG

FANTASTIC video, as always! May I suggest a topic that I think you'll have fun diving into? The brief time the F4 team consisted of The Thing, Johnny Storm, Sharon Ventura, and Crystal of the Inhumans? It was wild, and worth mentioning! Thank you again for continuing to talk about the Fantastic 4!

Obviously the best petty Doom brain swapping, was when Johnny storm was the bouncer at an avengers party and was swapped with Dr. doom just so that way doom could go to the party when Johnny answered the door! Dr. Doom "Eat your heart out Maleficent! DOOM gets into all the parties, even when he's not invited! Always welcome!"

I remember seeing ads for this show in magazines back in the day and was always interested in watching it but could never find it back then. Thanks for reminding me it existed. I'm gonna go binge it on Disney+ since it looks like it's on there.

Thanks for the video. I remember that show and I liked it.

that show is easily my favorite version of the F4, the costumes and episodes based on old comics made it really awesome. glad to hear it getting some attention! :D

I am glad to see the 2000s Fantastic Four cartoon get some praise. It was well done and I suggest a binge on Disney+ to everyone. This was a great episode to highlight how that animated series updated original stories. Nice job pointing out the connections and updates. I enjoyed the 1990s Fantastic Four series because it is great to see the comics come to life. Very true to the original except for the Galactus story, which switched out characters. If you are taking suggestions, an episode on the fantastic four cartoons (yes even the Herbie one, but feel free to shred it) would be fun.

I have added this Fantastic Four animated series to my Disney+ watchlist. Thank you.

Excellent! your vids are so funny, thank you. 🤣

I love the animated FF series, I still have them on DVD; it along with ultimate avengers and next avengers heroes of tomorrow we're my introduction to marvel not the MCU. And ever since then have held a special place in my heart.

Totally forgot about that F4 cartoon series. I had to add it to my watch list. Thanks Sasha

So happy there are people who remember the animated series! I don't remember any specific episode enough to have a fave but I enjoyed the theme song.

I love when you cover silver age and bronze age stuff.

I love that you brought attention to that FF animated series 😍 It's highly underrated as an adaptation of the FF. I recommend anyone with a Disney Plus to watch it.

I'm surprised that you didn't mention when Doom did the same technique in Fantastic Four issue #260 and it led to his technically his first battle against the Beyonder

Marvel was into shrinking things. One of my all time favorite Hulk adventures (circa 1972) was where he gets shrunk down to insect size and has adventures in a garden for awhile. It was written by great science fiction writer, Harlan Ellison.

Nice to see someone giving this Fantastic 4 cartoon its due. I feel like its an underrated show.

I heart ur thumbnails

Ha! Perfect wig choice, but missed opportunity to work some blue and white into your wardrobe! Now I need to go find that animated show!

I'm not a huge fan of Fantastic Four, but I love that you cover these stories. Also I see Capt has move on from Ironman, he never was a team player. 🤣

Now I have the fan theory that the attraction between Sue and Namor was invented by the in-universe comicbook writers to make more interesting some adventures where didn't happen enough stuff to fill a full comic issue... that may also explain why Stan Lee and Jack Kirby weren't invited to Sue and Reed's wedding

I used to watch that show as a kid (I remember this episode!), it's just as gorgeous as I remembered.

I remember that show. It was fun. I'll probably give that a rewatch

1:15 that made me laugh way too much. 😂

I like the idea that Doom would never kill the Fantastic Four, because if they were dead he wouldn't be able to torment them anymore.

LOVED the Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes. Do the skrulls episode comparison to the comic (Iss. #2 I think)

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I'm a fan of every Fantastic Four series that doesn't have a Humanoid Experimental Robot B-type Integrated Electronics. As always thank you so very much for the video.

I loved watching that on ytv crunch in the mornings

I really loved this animated series as a kid- it doesn’t get enough love!

Fantastic Four world's greatest heroes is such a great show

I actually love this FF series and have rewatched it a couple of times since it came to Disney+. I enjoy the art style, the characterizations (especially Ben), and the way that it began to bring in pieces of the larger Marvel Universe. It's too bad that it didn't get to have the same longevity as some other Marvel series.

"Best looking blank page I've ever seen!" -- took me a couple of seconds to catch that, well played!

Dr Doom waiting in that pose for Mr Fantastic to arrive makes me realize that the guy who played the 2nd in command on Star Trek: Next Generation needs to play Dr Doom. He does that pose all the time cuz of a back injury n also sits down on chairs weird but I love every quirky second of it n now he is my only pick for the next Dr Doom

I'll need to check this out!

WHEN THE DOOM MUSIC KICKS IN… The real fight is between those manic malleable eyebrows and the Fantastic Fourth wall! The winner gets all the spaces between molecules. Tough luck, Molecule Man! For me, the best FF stories will always be the first 50 issues of the Lee/Kirby run. It did so much to establish much of the foundations of the Marvel Universe as a whole. A close second is the 1980’s John Byrne stories that not only payed homage to this era, but played well off of it. (what really happened to the Skrulls that were changed into cows? Their plot of conquest undone by ~~LACTOSE INTOLERANCE!?! Dun dunt duuuuuuuuunnnnnn!) I haven’t seen that 90’s animated series yet, as my watchlist is longer than Reeds stretches, but the best I’d seen so far is the 1960’s series by Hannah Barberra. While overly simplistic, as it was aimed at young children, still captured the overall look and flavor of the comic (and, yes, at the time of recording). Alicias ability to “sense” the personality traits of others was played for many years as a silly trope for plot advancement, as evidenced by her encounters with Ben, the Silver Surfer, and Him (later Warlock). But it would later become part of a latent superpower. Much the way Rick Jones latent power would come into play during the Kree ~ Skrull war. Explanations would eventually be had in the Earth X series. Which you all should all read, you inglorious poltroons! Lest you, too should succumb to a body swap! Mwah haahahahaha, er, um, ahem… The real tweak should be the Lee ~ Kirby dialogue. Yeesh. Fantastic Fourth wall. Now THERE’S a Marvel title!!

I love that show, it was my introduction to the Fantastic Four!

I love this show! Super underated adaptation, but it always reminds me why we love the FF

17:13 "Is Spider-Man involved? A Commentary by publisher J. Jonah Jameson" I just can't...If only we also got Peter's reaction to that commentary!