The Best, Worst, and Weirdest of Codemasters' F1 (09-21) 

Give him a shoutout on the next Shift+F1 episode once the break is over! (Edit: Saw the credit 😎)

@@ThePhantomnaut Great idea! I'll make note of it.

Whats a good wheel for racing games\sims these days?

I'd recommend starting out with a G29 or Thrustmaster T150. Anything below that, and you've likely got no Force Feedback and it's not worth it.

@@Raycevick Thanks for the reply!

Oi oi Mark! :D

@@MarkTDKKnight ;-)

Wow! That's such a cool job You guys did amazing things... 656 hours in F1 2020 last year

Respect, bro...

This one got shared around the (virtual) office. Some very well observed commentary on the series for sure. 2010 and the whole experience of producing our first F1 game still brings a tear to my eye. Plus it won a BAFTA. The current F1 dev team have enjoyed watching that video too. Some of us remembering fondly, sometimes cringing, with newer members on the team learning more about the history of the series.

And that is why this review os completely inaccurate

@@thomsonkastomtv6655 elaborate

@@thomsonkastomtv6655 It's not lmao Don't start it! Besides, he played the EA Sports F1 games back in the day according to his 2019 video.

That'd be me in late 2022 vs me in early 2024

2 years later i know... But seeing people like you, that helped in the making of games, appear in comment sections is great. So, if you ever get interested in composing these OSTs, what about teaming up with Ian Livingstone? You two made some genuine masterpieces for the franchise, and i'd love to hear a combination of both styles

Its true tho

Or even Formula 3

But isn’t there formulas 2?

@@potatogamer4845 yeah it exists

Uhhhhh.. Literally been in the game for at least the last 3 years

Ukrainian Alonso cannot hurt you. He is not real

half invisible tposing raycevick is more terrifying ngl

@@dopey473 Oh dude we were fucking dying when that happened in race. Because that happened in one of the league races. For us it was just another "welp we broke F1 2020 again" moments.

What a yoke

As a Ukrainian I find that bug hilarious:)

Theres always console or piracy

EA axed those games because they didn’t own the license for those games. And I guess the license expired for the 2010 games.

Best bet is finding steam keys. I picked up a few at a decent price, but they won’t stay that way. 2012 & 2013 are already expensive

F1 2018 steam key is quite cheap, less than $10

Absolutely. 2021 got released and we all were happy and satisfied. ‘22 released and we all thought it was shit. And now with ‘24 essentially being the same game as ‘23, there’s no point. EA are a cancer on the games industry.

@@tedioussugar384how is that Ea’s fault. They ain’t the ones making the game the only thing they would off influenced is the F1 world bollocks

@@bottledit5379 How can you tell? Even so they're under EA Sports, they are gonna influenced anything at all. It would be the same thing if 2K Games bought out Codemasters

Engine feels good, much zlower than before

@@LombassTV "Even if you put a... a RRocket ship we will be eleventh!"

And Kimi's "FOR WHAT?" :D

ITS A YOKE

@Super Mario G4P engine. GP4 ENGINE. AAARGHHHH

Vettel did exactly that in China, don’t remember the year though

The track is under caution, the pit entry and exit isn't!

@@thejusmar Depends whether or not it is a "Full course caution", or only a certain sector. In case of FCY, the pit is ALSO part of the track.

@@yoshikempenaers8621 You have either an SC or in recent years a VSC. I don’t remember F1 having code 60s like LMS.

@@sameermohideen4913 That's not what I'm talking about! FCY is either a SC or a VSC. Local yellow isn't. Code 60 is the original VSC used in races like Le Mans.

I'll keep that in mind.

Question doe. It sounds different than normal? What is the remix called at 10:24, because that F.E.A.R remix sounds super good.

​@@Catdingusit's the uncle remix of f.e.a.r

What did you get? (Takeout) Just curious

@@joshflynn2173 Settled on a local Chinese restaurant with some of the best crab rangoon around!

@@HiddenGemsReviews Nice one mate! I hope you enjoyed

I hooe there's some Toca in here as well

It honestly runs incredibly well on terrible hardware, and is far better optimised than anything post 2014. Which makes it even more of a shame that you can’t buy it

Me too :)

Ever since I was undercover, my only contacts were BB and Alex. Whilst A 'Doom clone' was merely a twinkle in John's eye, I was already knee deep in Pacman clones anyhow. A pallet cleanser for something worse at the time. Anyway, I like Max Payne 1

Hungary a few weeks back too!

And history just repeated itself 😂

Thanks marten!

@@MarkTDKKnight you’re a legend, shame Codemasters did you dirty.

@@cmjmc981 Thanks for saying!! I'm actually in a much happier place now, freelancing. Doing a lot of sound design work on BeamNG which is a PC only soft body vehicle game. Still writing music when I can. Have released 2 albums since leaving Codies.

@@MarkTDKKnight Brilliant!

Thats True

ahoy still make videos

or EmperorLemon

@@makmakg242 As a lifelong NASCAR and especially Earnhardt fan and a longtime fan of Emp, he did Dale a good service. To see him collaborating with a known NASCAR RU-vidr just cemented his place as an unofficial NASCAR ‘Tuber, and I think he deserves this one-hundred percent.

Only racing games I like: NFS: Hot Pursuit Split Second

Same I don’t even like F1 games at all.

@@Rainbowhawk1993 For me is mario kart snes/n64 and wipeout.

I recommend giving F1 2019 a go. I tried it after I found his video even though I was never interested in the sport, paid £2 and I really loved it.

@@Rainbowhawk1993 the type with action and destruction? Try Burnout

Glad I'm not the only one who caught that AC7 nod!

Cause they don't give a fuck about racing games which is a crying shame

F1 and Grid aren’t huge franchises like Gran Turismo or Forza is why. Which is a shame.

Oh it did, but mainly in the racing and simracing scene........and let's just say the reaction wasn't good. We know how EA fucks up franchises, and now they have F1, Dirt and via SMS the Project Cars Franchise. Well the latter messed up already with Pcars 3, claiming it would be a good sim and then giving everyone a bad arcade game, that was even graphically a downgrade from Pcars 2. I mean I could understand to a degree that they went "fuck this!" after a lot of the hardcore simracers went "Pcars is not a sim" for Pcars 1 and 2...but at least they could've made a good game and be honest to us. Interestingly Pcars 2 is the game/Sim that does all that Raycevik wants of it, Lobbys are easy to set up, you can run a ton of regulations (from Open wheel F1 style, Indicar to GT and Classic Racing to Rallycross) it's easy to congfigure, the menues are better and easier to use, and even have mouse support. And it even looks better, despite coming out in 2017, with great performance both in 2D and VR, as well as a weather and track simulation that blows F1 clear out of the water. FFB when set up properly (just get a custom FFB file like Christiaan's Pure feel) that beats the living crap out of F1. It's easier to drive on the limit with all assists off than F1, nevermind with them on. Assetto Corsa has the reputation as the best sim, which I don't fully agree with, but setting up a lobby or server in it is the most pain-in-the-arse-backwards way you can imagine! Pcars 2, you set the lobby up, name it, choose the track, set the class (either same car, same class or multiclass), choose the rules (presets included), then weather (preset, multiple presets, real, dynamic), time/date (yes the season has an influence on weather and temps), oh and if you want just a race or full race weekend. Boom, all done in under a minute. AC.....oh brother! Choose track, time (unless modded no nightime), track, weather (no rain unless modded) and car. And here the pain starts, because you have to add every single repaint that you want to race into that. Not just the car as in Pcars, nope you have to add every repaint individually! And stay the hell away from the stock rules! Nobody uses them as they are the most stupid ones possible....I've done endurance races in it, and they used their own Apps/plugins to get better rules. I can understand that AC puts him off that, because AC has the worst lobby setup of all sims, not even old rfactor or GTR2/Race07 are that annoying. Oh and they have a single point tire model, beaten by every other sim, but don't you dare point out that some other sims, even the dreaded Pcars2 are better than in some regards the holy Assetto Corsa! Edit: On the other hand in the time that I have played both Pcars 1 and 2, Asetto Corsa and Asetto Corsa Competizione as well as AMS 2 now Codemasters has released 6 F1 Games each costing between 35-60 Euros, depending on where you get them. So it costs 180-360 Euros. Even Pcars2 Deluxe Edition is cheaper at 70-79 Euros for all the content and got updates, just not as long as it should. AC was patched over 4 years until it was pretty good, and I bought all the DLC so in the end I spent around 100 Euros on it, plus some third party cars. ACC got updates and addons and went from broken mess to a good sim in two years, and still cost me less of a fraction. Codemasters does upgrade their sim, but the old content does not get updates, you can play the old seasons in the new upgraded version, and each yearly update costs 35-60 Dollars.

Probably paid off. Most people who buy sports games don't give a shit who the developer is, anyway. They just want to spend $60 for the game so they can spend a thousand more dollars in microtransactions every year.

I dunno about the general public, but "over here" in the Sim Racing niche it's been an ... interesting topic. We very much expect in the future you'll have to pay for every pitstop or somesuch. And will get a loot box at the end of every race. But the only good ones are the ones you pay via subscription. Y'know, the usual cr@p EA pulls. Grid and PCars were already broken, and Dirt didn't do so well. So F1 was the only cash machine for Codemasters anyway. And we all were horrified by the Codies getting the WRC license. Imagine how horrified we are that it'll now be WRC! The EA FRANCHISE! NOW WITH MONSTER TRUCK CROSSOVER! (or something like that...

Even the AI can’t escape monza quali shenanigans

I have never considered f1 outside of grand Prix for the n64, and after finishing this video, I kind of want to start watching

The graphics were awful compared to F1 championship edition, though.

You need to do a better job so these louts stop releasing these shitty-half baked excuses for a game and maybe actually include the actual full season written on the box. ITS LITERALLY THEIR ONLY JOB.

@@dmign ok

​@@dmign do you know how much work it is to make a track I prefer improved handling, AI, tyres physics to a few tracks being released day one

@@IStMl yes and i love the game but unfortunately it is still a broken mess

@@dmign you know QA testers don't usually sit around playing the full game they play specific scenarios etc that's why it's so hit and miss sometimes

Yet 2015 wasnt very good either.

I think they’re going for something more like the journey In FIFA 17,18 and 19, where they do a season every game

@@BudweiserBoris I hope, but why have it be 2 seasons worth in the mode then?

@@danielmazzola9374 idk

Ohey, it's Cepheid.

you should play them

F1 2021 is a lot of fun. While it isnt exactly a sim like assetto corsa, it is enough of a mix of sim and arcade that it makes it a lot of fun. The AI fight pretty realistically, can make mistakes as well. Definitely a lot of fun. Also has Formula 2

Hopefully it was already clear from this vid, but I definitely recommend F1 2020 out of all the games. It’s probably the best one with the most content!

Cepheid F1 Song dropping when?

They did, Grand Prix Legends, but it didn't sell as well as the mainstream games.

Look up Grand Prix Legends. There should be an patch you can find that makes it work on modern systems. Its really good.

@@yoshikempenaers8621 I think he's asking for a new game set entirely in that era of f1

@@-PVL93- Yeah I realized lol But the closest thing you'd get today is Assetto Corsa with some mods. Because the market is too small for those games, we will probably not see a similar game for the foreseen future. GPL is the best you can get atm though

@@KevinJDildonik Make sure you don't drive it like a modern car though... Most people suffered from the same thing. Braking for instance. You have to pump the brakes before actually braking because you didn't have the discs like nowadays which brake instantly. Also no wings, no ground effect, no tc, no abs, no power steering. It's basically a powerful go kart and you have to drive it as such. It mostly didn't sell because it simulated a 60s season. Most people hadn't experienced the 60s, let alone wanting to simulate it. People only want the newest of the newest so it made sense actually.

Still is.

@@Henriette187 yep. the pit entry is part of the race track. the pit lane only starts with the speed limit line.

As someone who owns every F1 codemasters games except 2009, i have to admit that F1 2010 is the only one that keeps me coming back often because of the looks and soundtrack, it feels so cinematic and relaxed, and the intro song is so nostalgic, perfectly captures the essence of the sport.

I think I could see that being a thing in future F1 codemaster games, but with EA calling the shots... Someone else would have to do that.

To an extent, this is possible with modding and assetto corsa. However, you'd be doing spec series, and it would lack the F1-specific spectacle that the codemasters games bring.

not gonna happen ever. Liscencing would be *such* a nightmare

@@dirtcrazykid9674 well if the team doesn't exist anymore it's free real estate

Saw something similar (but on much smaller scale obviously) done with set of mods to the good old GP2 game. There was even carreer app that analyzed your race and quali results and then generated job offers on behalf of other team bosses

YES, "So I've finally played Ace Combat" would be so good

yes yes yes yes yes!!!

Definitely second this

Wonderful idea

I hope so AC7 needs some love!

Thats same as me

Toro don't win routinely, as you can in the game.

IRL torro rosso won their first race before red bull. Vettel won the race , italian gp I think 2008 (not sure)

@@Raycevick 1 hour in. You're correct about that toro rosso didn't win like red bull especially from 2010-13 but to be honest any driver with enough skill in the game can win with a Caterham or a marussia, and when it's a simcade that's to be expected. Especially as the earlier games focused more on the "cade" prefix I genuinely think the games went more along the sim route from 2015 ondward and are continuing to become more and more a racing sim than a arcade title. In the way the forza series attempted to be more a sim racer than their horizon series, not saying that f1 will go the route of two different franchises. But with the surge in popularity of the franchise and the sport itself I can see the game going in a more hardcore approach which could be damaging saying all this however. It will be interesting to see which direction EA steers the series. And if we'll get another terrible addition of braking point like seen in today's game, it hit every cliche in the book over your head and said you will like it.

@@piyushgandhi7959 correct.

@@piyushgandhi7959 Yeah that's true but not on merit lol They had a genius strategy because they had nothing to lose. Imagine if Bourdais hadn't broke down on the grid though...

That's just cause every damn team uses matte paint for some reason. To me it only ever looked cool on the RB and the orange Mclarens, but that's just my taste

@@racebug6134 yeah, in 2019 the toro rosso also looked a lot worse than the 2018 game. I don’t like matte in general, I liked the 2019 McLaren livery more and the old red bull livery

It's the voice man, like a magic spell

2009 is a gem with plenty of nostalgia for me, I love that game to bits

Codies seem to focus on racing games these days

Patrick Bateman has a slightly better haircut than you

Well, Grosjean is not pronounced as "gross jean." He does make quite a lot of mistakes in the races though. (He has crashed under a safety car.)

Yeah, 2014 modding is insane

no. get 21. it's simply better. the physics are much better and my team is much deeper.

Get 21 it has more content and the handling is better

@@stpbasss3773 I’d say they have the same amount of content theirs a bunch of new stuff but they have cut a lot of stuff out. But I agree 2021 is so much more fun

@@jakenorman362921 doesn’t have classic cars

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me too

That's the one big thing this series is missing honestly, VR. Racing games are by far the best experience in VR imo, and its a disgrace codies haven't put it in yet.

From which game is this music from?? i know i already heard it but my mind just went blank and its killing me kkkk

@@gabrielpavetits3859 It's Aerith's Theme from Final Fantasy 7