The BIG FLAW In Pokémon Remakes 

It’s not that BDSP intentionally removed features from Platinum, such as the back button on the PokeTech, it’s moreso the case that BDSP is LITERALLY using DP’s codebase. Through decomp attemps we’ve even found the code that controlled the GBA port on the DS still in the game and now there are teams trying to get that feature working again in BDSP to see what they can do with it

I think BDSP are bad remakes regardless, but the removal of the back button on the poketch is what pushed them over the edge of just being terrible. It's such an absurd decision that seems almost deliberately insulting to the playerbase.

When the Gen IV remakes came out, I jokingly said that each decision for the "remake" boiled down to 'Which decision is easier/cheaper to implement?". We get the fairy type because it makes it easier to use typing and move charts from newer games, but we get single use TMs again. We get a bicycle that can be ridden through grass but we lose pokemon contests and get a rhythm game somehow worse than friday night funkin instead. And I fear that's the direction the newer ones will continue to go - why spend time or money on a game when it'll sell millions and all you have to do is ask yourself "How cheap can we make this game and fans still buy it?"

Gold and Silver also didn't have the Battle Frontier, and Crystal only had the Tower. This didn't stop HGSS from introducing Battle Frontier 2.0.

Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee didn't just cut the Sevii Islands. There were no abilities, no evolutions for some Pokémon like Golbat, nothing past the original 151 (aside from Alolan Forms), and so on. This is where I think the idea of "faithful remakes" really started to kick in and BDSP were just a further symptom of that.

Credit to Werster for explaining it in a video, but while the pokemon games "break sales records" it's still on a downward trajectory compared to other Nintendo franchises. The best selling Mario game ever is MK8:Deluxe on switch, for Zelda it's Breath of the Wild, Splatoon 3 for that series, Kirby and the Forgotten Land, Pikmin 4, etc. But for Pokemon, Red and Blue are still the best selling. It's the only main Nintendo series that hasn't hit peak sales on switch. That's not a good sign considering how massive the Switch player base is. They're definitely leaning more into merch than games now, and the horrible game quality isn't bringing in new players.

I think TMs could be single use if there was a shop where you could buy all the TMs you needed not systematically target pokemon for their materials that just adds extra hours to the gameplay

Imo, ORAS was fantastic - only things I would improve on it is raising the difficulty and having Gym Leader rematches, because those were gone for some reason. The way it reimagined the story and world in certain areas like acknowledging post-Gen 3 Pokémon and regions *BEFORE* the Elite Four is something I wish future remakes would do. Don't treat the world like the Pokémon and regions that were made after them don't exist.

I have never forgive them for cut off safari park in let's go pikachu and eevee. I have such fond memories of that place in the past

The ultimate issue is TPCI. Game Freak ultimately just makes the games while TPCI makes the deadlines. And really it is a great shield for TCPI to hide behind. They make all the important calls, the budget and the deadline, and Game Freak takes all the heat off them when the playerbase isn't happy with the final product. While Pokemon is the largest media franchise in the world, the games make up a surprisingly small chunk of it. Despite the games being the primary avenue of new species and variants to come into existence for TPCI to create merchandise of. So they ultimately do not care about the quality of the video games. They just want more species to make merchandise of. And since merchandise makes up the largest portion of their profits, TPCI demands quick turn-arounds for development time so they can create more merchandise. So I don't begrudge Game Freak. Are they a part of the problem? A bit given their shaky track record at times even when not under immense crunch. But TCPI are the true culprits of the franchise's downfall, wanting quantity over quality. I can pretty much guarantee you that Scarlet and Violet, as well as Sword and Shield, had incredibly rushed development cycles. Especially Sword and Shield, given that the team was most likely split in half between making them and Let's GO. Scarlet and Violet was also probably split between themselves and Legends: Arceus, which acted as a glorified tech demo. (Legends was still really good overall, though.) I have no clue what happened with BDSP, but I wouldn't be surprised if ILCA was given a year and a half at most to develop them. As an enfranchised player (Got in on the ground floor with Red/Blue), it does pain me to see that one of my favorite franchises is hurting as much as it is. But I'm not blind to where the fault truly lies. And the fault lies with TPCI and the drive of good, old capitalistic greed.

I honestly do not mind the lack of Rayquaza's involvement in the remakes. Rayquaza got the whole afterstory with the Delta episode to itself, something I loved then and still do today. And unlike Johto Hoenn is packed with a dense story, nice features and content I prefer over being in a second region that has nothing to offer but battle against people I don't care about. The lack of the Battle Frontier sucks, yeah, but at least we got a battle facility in which you can sink your time in. The battle resort was just some fun for me. Also the secret bases got expanded, contests looked better than at any other point in the franchise, and pretty much got some of the best content in the 6th Gen. Non of the Remakes were 1 to 1 since that would just be a Remaster. But honestly HG and SS added some of the least extra content. They kept the story of the original almost one to one, just adding Crystal's side story into a few random encounters. The addition of the new safari zone and the battle frontier from platinum was nice but that was literally it. People always say having Kanto as an addition makes them the best games in the franchise, while I couldn't care less about it.

Johto remakes: have the Sinnoh Battle Frontier Sinnoh remakes: do not have the Sinnoh Battle Frontier

I really hope the Mystery Dungeon DX art-style gets more use. Whether it’s for an Explorers of Sky remake, another side game, or even a mainline title. It deserves far more recognition than it gets.

Man, I've been playing Pokemon since Red/Blue back in '98. I have played every mainline game since, except I didn't even play Sw/Sh. I had no draw to it in the slightest. It looked horrible and the Nat Dex cut convinced me. I dove back into the main series with Sc/Vi and I thought it was going to be like Legends Arceus, which was incredible. Aaaaand it was incredibly disappointing. Having the Legends series keeps me interested in Pokemon, but the quality of the games has taken a nosedive, particularly on the Switch. Schedules can be kept if you expand to meet them instead of cutting quality. Game Freak are notorious for being terrified of expanding since they don't know how to manage a larger studio, and that is the worst excuse I've ever heard for a studio of their... well, not calibre, but at least wealth.

It's not speculation, the games have to line up with other Pokemon merchandise(Toys, TCG etc.). Gamefreak themselves have pointed out the yearly cycle is a problem. Now are they going to actually do something about it? I doubt it lmao

I still remember playing through Alpha Sapphire back in 2014, I was extremely happy with my play through. The changes they did elevated the story immensely….then I got access to the battle maison. My heart shattered seeing the battle tower model and no battle frontier. It has soured my mood on the series ever since, with the exception of legends arceus

The problem with Modern Pokemon is a multifaceted issue with various factors. The increasing costs in game development is higher now. Developing on console involves more man power and time nowadays compared to how small scale the Gen 1-5 Era was. 3D models are difficult to work with compared to 2D sprites. Game development for big budget titles usually take around 3-5 years. Mainline Pokemon are now big budget console games. Pokemon as a franchise runs on a strict generation release timeline. Every 3 years a new mainline Pokemon game introduces a new generation, but this formula can only work for so long. With the cut pokedex in Gen 8 and the technical performance in Gen 9, we are starting to see the consequences of Pokemon games being rushed out for the lucrative holiday season. These games have become mandatory to fuel the other cogs in the Pokemon Franchise: the anime and the trading cards. Game Freak cuts corners on the game, which includes removing content, to meet strict deadlines. That's why the battle frontier got axed in Gen 6, the national pokedex slowly phased out in Gen 7, and the pokemon themselves in Gen 8. Them cutting corners is likely why voice acting will never be in mainline because it costs money and especially more time to hire, implement, and localize to account for a simultaneous worldwide release.

my main gripe with ORAS was them not using the gym leaders Emerald teams and having rematches for them like the teams from Emerald were way better and added more of a challenge it just doesn’t make sense to me why they wouldn’t just use the better teams, i do miss the battle factory too i loved it as a kid but they don’t seem to think it’s necessary now cause they didn’t have it in BDSP either

"Gen 5 doesn't have a 3rd version" *the 2 extra full games that were part of Gen 5 giving bombastic side eye*

The lack of the Battle Frontier and no epic Rayquaza scene weren't ORAS's only failings. Emerald went out of its way to introduce new characters, rebalance levels/items/abilities, add on to the story, and update gym teams, but the remakes threw it all away to give us a story about a whiny, spoiled teenager with a savior complex stapled on to Ruby and Sapphire. Luckily they were able to hide it all by dangling Mega-Evolution in front of everyone's faces like a set of shiny keys with infants. Honestly, I don't think HGSS is completely innocent of this abandon-the improvements practice either. Pokemon Crystal gave us our first female playable character, expanded the types of Pokemon you could capture in Johto, and fixed a lot of the leveling disparity with in-game opponents. HGSS stepped back on all of that to just copy Gold and Silver. I still remember there being no shortage of Pokemon fans justifying it all when I complained about those things in HGSS and ORAS. It wasn't until BDSP that it started bothering the majority of the fanbase, so it finally got noticed. When I complained about the lack of Crystal and Emerald features in the remakes fans were immediately waving it off with: "It's a Gold/Silver, Ruby/Sapphire Remake, not a Crystal or Emerald Remake. LOL. Why are you so upset? Go cry about it!" It was utterly hilarious later how those same people were so absolutely offended when BDSP came out without Platinum features. I took pleasure in reminding them: "It's a Diamond/Pearl remake, not a Platinum Remake. LOL. Why are you so upset? Go cry about it!" I love Pokemon, but this Fandom is full of hypocrites. You either call out all the remakes for lacking the third game's improved features or you shut up when your favorite gets the inevitable same treatment of multiple cut features. The only difference with BDSP is that the Gen 4 games were a large chunk of the fandom's first game in the series so they had the loudest voices when their favorite didn't the gold star treatment. Frankly, I take pleasure in the fact that they got a taste of what they were dishing out to older fans. I say keep it up! Remake Gen 5 from the original Black and White with none of its sequel features and dumb down the story! Remake Gen 6 by cutting out Mega-Evolution entirely and removing customization! Fans will buy it anyway and still defend the stripped-down remakes. The reality is that these problems with the remakes were always there, they've just gotten fewer new features to hide those empty spaces behind with each new remake.

The way my heart broke when they released the art style for the diamond and pearl remakes 😭. How could they give us such a beautiful style with let's go only to slap us with those awful round people. They look like wibble wobbles

In regards to the final question - I think this is a symptom of a general trend of Gamefreak failing to give their teams enough time to make a good game. This yearly content cycle, plus the lean towards a more open world game means we are getting less time for a quality game to be made.

In my opinion, the only hope that can save remakes is if they continue to remake the third versions similar to what HGSS did and what LGPE tried to do. HGSS included various, although not all, Crystal elements, such as an in-game Celebi event, the Battle Frontier (replacing Crystal's Battle Tower), the Suicune side story, etc. so it was basically a Crystal remake painted as a Gold/Silver remake, which is what everyone expected from BDSP and is why those games are seen as being the worst remakes yet. ORAS can catch SOME criticism for doing the same but they still included several things you'd expect to see in an Emerald remake such as the Delta Episode, seeing Steven pass the torch to Wallace, etc. My only gripe with ORAS is really the lack of the Battle Frontier, other than that the game does everything I'd expect a Ruby/Sapphire with Emerald touches to do. LGPE is the literal remake of a third version, Yellow, except we didn't inherit all the modern mechanics we expect to by now, such as Abilities and Held Items, but I'm going to assume that was a one-time exception to simplify things for the Go crowd, training Pokemon with IVs and EVs also didn't work the same because they had the candy thing to work around as well, but the game was gorgeous, the gameplay was fun, it was basically a very early and primitive version of the Legends: Arceus catching mechanics, which should totally come back and be a permanent staple of the series. BDSP is just a downright atrocious game though, by far the worst remakes yet which is a shame because they did a lot right too, like giving the Pokemon League super strong teams, letting you get a glimpse of the Distortion World with the Shadow Giratina event, and so on, but the game is just hideous in the overworld in my opinion, the controls are clunky and certain tight areas of the game are a pain to navigate because of the clunky controls pushing you off ledges, the games are super buggy and once again, the lack of expected features was a turnoff. A lot of people expected Megas to come back for BDSP since we know other regions have Megas, Cynthia and Colress for example use Megas in the Alola games, and they stuck around when they made LGPE, so people at the very least expected remakes of older games to continue the trend of including Megas, so many were disappointed that they weren't included, at least in the postgame or something as a minor mechanic, like in the Alola games or in LGPE. Now Legends: Arceus on the other hand is much closer to being "the Platinum remake" than BDSP could ever hope to be. Yes it's not the same story or same region and characters etc. but the game itself is so much higher quality than BDSP, it feels good to play, the UI and controls don't feel clunky, everything feels super fluid and intuitive, in fact I think SV is mechanically a step backwards from LA, that's how much I love LA's mechanics. If we could have more games on that engine that'd be great. Would love to see a Crystal remake but in the style of LA, refined of course.

I feel as if the 'gen 5 has no third version so they can't cut much content from it, right?' is a bit of copium. Because while being sequels with different stories, there are plenty of minor features from BW2 that could easily be incorporated into the original story without much disruption - such as the mutually exclusive Yancy and Curtis characters.

The quote from Masuda at 11:24 is really funny to me, because he says that the core elements like gyms, elite 4, and champions are not going to change when in the VERY NEXT GAME they replaced gyms with the "trials"

To be honestly I would rather them literally just port Bw/B2W2 exactly as is to the switch than see then try to remake them

I don't quite remember specifics, but I remember hearing that BDSP was outsourced to a different company altogether while gamefreak focused on Legends.

On the TMs, I like how Scarlet & Violet handled them. I don’t mind TMs being single-use as long as there is a consistent way to get multiple.

It really just doesn't make sense why they didn't do the definitive changes with Emerald and Platinum with OR/AS and BD/SP. I understand if they still want to doo dual versions, that's fine. But why not find a way to include some of the clearly better changes made in the 3rd versions instead of just copy pasting the OGs

The sevii islands are awesome...

I don't want a gen 5 remake. If the solution is just play gen 5, then I'm just gonna pop in gen 5. I'd be a lot more excited for a gen 5 game set in a different story. BW3 or a Legends style Unova game.

i love HGSS but my main issue with it is the missed opportunity to update the gym leader teams to have more johto pokemon and also make more johto pokemon accessible during the main story, like why cant i only get a lot of them in post game Kanto and Mt Silver?

At 19:42. There are some videos where people translate interviews of people that have worked at GAME FREAK. The gist of it is, the higher-ups don’t care anymore and “it will sell anyways”. This broke the camels back for me. Not buying another main series game or remake unless if things turn around.

Convinced gamefreak defenders aren’t actual people at this point

Pokémon is a successful business franchise, I’d give them that. But that’s the problem…they’re TOO successful.

I'm extremely disappointed with the state of Pokemon games. After the first Sword&Shield trailer it was clear that Gamefreak was in over their heads jumping to home consoles. I decided to speak with my wallet and sit out Gen 8. I sat out on Legends despite it's decent reviews. I sat out the god awful Gen 4 remakes. I sat out Let's Go. I finally came back for gen 9 and was met with some of the most fun, and most technical issues of any Pokemon game. Choppy framerate, ugly visuals and missing features. I enjoyed the hell out of the game but it almost feels unfair that I sat out for years, spoke with my wallet, and came back to see that so little has improved.

19:32 We do, in fact, have a video on RU-vid documenting employee experiences with GameFreak by translating their reviews. The information is in fact publicly available, just not in any language outside of Japanese. What little I remember about it is GameFreak does not retain data on past games, even just the basics of Pokemon and their movepool, as well as having a small workforce and a stagnating environment.

Most likely they'll stick closely to the original story and experience of BW. That means no PWT, or any of the other new cool features added in the sequels. So black and white has a VERY good chance of being stripped of decent additions introduced in the subsequent release of 2

Black 2 was the first game I owned instead of borrowing, and I’m dreading the day when we find out the Gen 5 remakes won’t acknowledge B2W2. It’s just going to be lost content forever, and the games will continue to cost $200 online

If the remake is not the best Version of the game, it is a failure. No matter how good it is, if it doesn't exceed any of the previous versions, why even bother? In my opinion, only FR/LG and HG/SS are good remakes. OR/AS are just fine and BD/SP are worse than the original D/P, if you don't install the day 1 patch, and are pretty much just as bad as D/P with it.

What if in an alternate timeline; 3rd versions, remakes, and DLCs never existed? While the original games already had their cool new features and improvements? While Gen 2 was a standalone game with only the Johto Region included? While every Gen came out worldwide between 1996 and 2006? And if every Gen had both a sequel and a prequel every 10 years? How well would the series have been recieved? And how'd all of you fans have liked it from your altered memories and experiences?

The target audience of the newer remakes isn’t fan’s who played the originals, it’s newer fans who didn’t. The first few remakes had to be enjoyable for people who’d played the originals because part of their purpose was to fill in the Pokédex, but that’s not an issue anymore. I never had a ds and missed gens 4 and 5 when they first came out. I went back to play them after playing gen 6 and found it super hard to enjoy them as the annoyance of grinding overshadowed everything else, and as a result I hardly remember playing those games. I loved BDSP because I was able to experience it for the game it was, not the game I’d hoped it would’ve been.

i swear, i have never seen a more underrated RU-vidr than you. your content is a quality that i havent seen in other channels lately. you should have more subs.

My main issue with the games is all of the stuff that is stuck behind post-game. They've become so focused on the competitive scene with these games that they practically force players to zoom through the game to unlock post-game content such as IV judges, certain battle items, and special training that players have no time to just sit & enjoy the worlds they've created…then the company get pissed that players are flying through content faster than they can make it. What they need to do is go back & give these games replay value. This way, players could build teams & drop them off in Pokémon HOME and feel free to restart their journey & try new things. I did that all of the time with the original 3 generations. I'd store my best Pokémon, start a fresh, & then send them back. Now, I just feel so rushed to finish the game because of the different level raids & Luxury Balls are only unlocked with game progression & I care more about catching new Pokémon & breeding them to 6 perfect IVs in Luxury Balls. It's ridiculous. I just want to explore the world of Pokémon, not get drip-fed content. Even in Sw/Sh, I could unlock BOTH DLC locations with only one badge & my Starter already up to Lv. 70+. Now, the second DLC for S/V is post-game only. 💢

“Keep getting worse” ORAS wasn’t bad and I think they went about it nicely. They gave you elements of the original game with a rayquaza story at the end (yes more could’ve been done but for a 3Ds game it was fine). BDSP was the only bad “remake” it was more of a remaster of anything. The very least they could’ve done was give us some platinum content at the end but nope

The Zinnia defense of alternate dimensions is good and all, but it's so weird people use it to justify less content? Cause if I remember rightly Zinnia's specific example of alternate dimensions is to diagetically explain why ORAS Hoenn has megas and RSE Hoenn doesn't (and also to stop ORAS Steven from nuking RSE Hoenn with a meteor, but my point is the mega evolution bits). Anyways the whole "alternate dimensions don't have all this extra content that others do!" is, I suppose, a nice little explanation for some things (in this dimension, Super Contests are notably worse than the mainline dimension somehow), but like. You cannot tell me that no one has invented a down button on a watch in multiple timelines. Anyways here's hoping everyone's coveted gen 5 remakes don't try and put the Battle Maison where the PWT should be (lol) (no for real tho the Battle Maison in hoenn was like. what was that???)

The only thing missing from ORAS was the battle frontier which I (and many others in my opinion except those who just like to complain) didn’t care about. The rayquaza lore wasn’t cut, it was expanded upon. ORAS would be the best remake ever if HGSS didn’t go so damn hard with all of the content and charm it brought to the table.

I think with reusable TMs, Sword and Shield did it right, TMs are reusable, but you also had the TRs that were not reusable

Honestly bdsp also shows us the problems with og d/p because i always found d/p to be a downgrade compared to gen 3 games. (Also platinum is great though). Also i wish hgss have vs seeker to make level curve bearable and most of johto mons aren't available in johto region.

This is a good video to represent gaming industry as a whole. Literally remaking games to sell nostalgia and manipulate younger players who hear about glory years. Then release a game with less content. Or even worse remake a game into multiple purchases over multiple consoles (ff7)

ORAS was so good they just needed the battle frontier and that’s it. They did so well and they missed out the huge part of the game and they knew it was a big part because they mention the battle frontier in the game

Next remake: silver/gold but the cut out all gen 1 content and keep the level ramp super trash. Source: money

Remakes aside, Pokemon needs to make a definitive Pokemon game that’s extremely high quality and open world if that’s what they’re going for. They can then add all the regions through the various dlcs they seem to like making. This way, they’d continuously get more sales as people’s favorite regions get added. (The dlcs could be made cheap and the game itself more expensive) I don’t think this has to be Gen 10 but if they want to preserve their longevity this change should be made within the next 10 years.

It's hard to correlate public consensus about Pokemon when it's likely at least a third of the games sales are by parents who are buying the games for their kids, over the holidays. Obviously there's no way to verify that but you can't argue that it has to be no small number.

I loved the Sevii islands. I grew up playing Gen 1, so playing that with a decent expansion was great in my book. I hated that they weren’t in HGSS. Despite that, HGSS is tied with B2W2 as my favorite Pokémon games of all time.

The TM system in Scarlet and Violet is fine. TM's are single use, but they're also craftable, so they are infinite, even if there's only one available in the overworld, you gain the recipe and can then make theoretically infinite of that TM. It's a nice middle ground between single use consumables (which is just a bad game mechanic) and infinitely usable items that can break games; A good example being the headbutt TM in let's go, most pokemon can learn it, and you get flinch chance, letting you flinch hack your way through much of the early game. The craftable TM's mean that you still have to think about using them, because they're a limited resource, but it's not a final decision that can screw you over in the long run

I'll never forget that feeling of playing shining pearl, reaching the point where I could participate in contests for the first time and being heartbroken to discover they completely butchered contests. I haven't played the game since, I realised there was no heart in those remakes whatsoever at that point. I would much rather have no remake at all if they're just going to cheaply outsource remakes like this.

This pushback of content and quality is also apparent when you look at the timeframes of release of the DLC in Gen 8 compared to gen 9. Since they can be directly compared due to being 2 part DLCs on the Switch. Summer of the year after release for Isle of Armor, followed by winter for Crown Tundra. Came out and never cleaned up the overall presentation of the game, but did alright. Gen 9 delays it's first part into the fall, the second part right before Christmas, and the story of it just didn't end well. We're getting a "free epilogue" which reads like they didn't finish their homework before turning it in. And I have no hope they won't immediately pretend it's no longer their problem when gen 5 remakes inevitablly get announced this year (and/or another Legends game) ScVi will not be fixed, anyone who thinks a patch is coming by this point is deluded.

Battle Frontier more like Battle Not Here

I would honestly pay full price for a Battle Frontier game on Switch.

Rescue Team DX was a better remake because it was Spike/Chunsoft in charge of them, who have a lot of care for smoothness of gameplay experience and the heart of a story. And as a small example, every pokemon from generation 3 and earlier that had an evolution added in a later generation could evolve - even eevee into sylveon!

The refusal to give Pokémon games the time they need to be fully developed and polished is so emblematic of the company’s unchecked capitalist greed. They should not be charging for post-game dlc expansions (expansions that should be free, not charged as two separate items) if they’re also gonna rush out the games to the point where they’re extremely buggy at launch-this a wider problem with the industry where games get patched and become reasonably stable only months later, but that’s not an excuse for The Pokémon Company. They’re gonna keep doing this until they reach a point where it actually affects their sales. Until then the people making the decisions are gonna keep doing what they’re doing and not caring about the games’ integrity.

The fact that BDSP contains bugs from original DP that were patched in Platinum is just astounding to me lmao BDSP & SV are the first mainline games I've ever skipped and I'm comfortable continuing to skip them if they keep rushing development like they have been

Hot take, Lets go Eevee and pikachu are my favorite art style in the whole pokemon series. I wish every game was remade into that art style, and games since then we also in that style. obviously the Let go catching mechanic is awful, but the art is just perfect for me.

i think remakes has gotten worse mostly cuz instead of improving the original they just desided to "keeping it faithful" when what i want is the 3rd version with the original story and some new and improved things added (along with features and pokemon added after the og) and also a (shorter) story after the main story (like the delta episode) what we get now is 1 medium size change and the og games with diffrent (but not really better) grafics

Don’t forget the massive difficulty spike put into BDSP. It’s the exact same as Diamond and Pearl with the EXP share, but when you get to the elite four they suddenly have competitive IVs and moves. I had a friend who needed to grind to level 80 to win because he just couldn’t break through Cynthia’s team. On top of all the moves that got cut. But my biggest issue is all the content that got teased and was never implemented. We will never know what happened to third cannon Type:Null or what aether was doing in Sinnoh.

I'll be honest. I don't even think you can consider the underground expanded on. They took away every feature that made the underground interesting in diamond and pearl by cutting the amount of base decorations down to mere statues, there's not any traps to discover and use to keep people from entering your base to steal your flag for their base, the addition of pokemon to catch in the underground was nice but removing all the things from the original underground in place of that wasn't worth it. On the context of the games getting worse I'd like to bring up the dlc for scarlet and violet. I feel like we could have cut the terapagos stuff from the dlc and make that base game. Arven in the post game talks about the weird page in the book about the disk Heath saw in area zero. Why not have the player Arven, Nemona, and Penny get authorized to go down into area zero in search of Terapagos in the main game instead of tying it to Kairan's story where it feels out of place. The dlc was called the hidden treasure of area zero but neither dlc feels like connected to paldea let alone the region the dlc was named after.

Watching this i feel like Millennials are having a hard time coping that they are not the target market of Pokemon games anymore. I think it’s a mistake but I think that is a major problem. Gen Z doesn’t have the same habits nor Gen Alpha. I think Pokemon will actually lose favor in the long run. Kind of like how Gen Z has zero commitment to marvel. I also feel like the transition from handheld to console hasn’t been kind to Pokemon either. I don’t think they know the direction to take it in.

I was never a big fan of Hoenn (my least favorite region besides Galar). Alpha Sapphire I honestly pleasantly enjoyed (which admitted comes from someone who would never play Emerald willingly). But Diamond was my first game and the remakes upset me a lot. I loved platinum and wanted to see the Distortion World realized on better hardware. Plus so many things I loved in even just Diamond is gone, such as the depth in the contests, or decorating my underground base with bunneary plushes. Legends was fun enough, but it also didn't really give me what I wanted and was annoying infuriating like a 3rd of the time.

I have enough faith in spike chunsoft to know that if explorers gets a remake, it'll be for sky. If it's time/darkness instead then all hope in this franchise is lost for me

1:18 Oh my god, someone finally put modern Pokémon games into words.

I hope that when/if we get Unova remakes Gamefreak does better. I feel like the Gen 5 games hold a lot of potential in terms of reexploring it's story and gameplay

Lots of people are already asking for Unova remakes in response to how underwhelming BDSP was. Now as much as I love BW and BW2, I’d much rather have Pokémon company keep going in the order the original games were released and go for an Explorers of Sky remake since Rescue Team DX was what got me hooked on PMD in the first place.

7:20 Oh no I wanted the Sevii Islands back too dude. I also wanted another variant for Johto via S.S. Anne 10:45 No,no you’re not the only one who wanted the magma hideout in ORAS

I loved Let's Go, and I don't care who knows it.

Please let it be black and white 3 instead of a remake.

Yeah, I think one RU-vidr put it best with her retrospective of pokemon; The executives want their money now. Scarlet and Violet are the conflict between the developers and the executives made manifest; the game would be fantastic but it was rushed beyond belief. Work was made with the stories and characters but the gameplay is the most atrocious. It’s the game that crashed on me the most. And there’s one other problem; the executives are lazy and know that, like with Dexit, people will buy regardless. Not to mention, when Dexit first happened, whilst many objected, there was the “pro Dexit” side that kind of forgot you could transfer pokemon in the other games. Almost like they wanted the “anti-Dexit” players to be grateful that they even got a game. And Black and White’s remakes will probably be these problems coming to roost in one particular way; in black and white, you can’t use any non gen 5 pokemon until after the main story. That’s why Black and white had so many new pokemon that were essentially recycled favourites; to provide variety that the company intentionally stripped. So just imagine what happens if they do a “faithful” remake. HgSS was fantastic but they needed the safari zone because a lot of great gen 2 pokemon were locked into the Kanto post game. That sucked because, whilst some may argue that they’re like little trophies, it meant that you couldn’t use them in the main story or much else. That’s why, for all its faults, I really did like Scarlet and Violet for how many pokemon you could get so early. The moment three star raids became possible, I got that Frigibax and had a blast using it. Sucks really. But we’re going to keep buying it.

Mainline Pokémon as a whole keeps getting worse with each release lmfao it’s not just the remakes. This company and developer are in the mud.

i still do not understand why they did not add the Battle Frontier as DLC in ORAS a year later or sth. I am no DLC simp but the argument "I will not add it because noone would play it so it's a waste of time lmao" just didn't exist in 2005? At least we would have had a definitive pokemon gen 3 experience even if we would have to pay a bit extra. Besides, with online play competitive strats and IV breeding was significantly easier to do than back in 2005, let alone the vast amount of online guides to help. I grew up with ORAS and RSE and the fact that we actually got to go to space was a wave to the old fans with all the myths about space back in the day. A DLC with features for the "hardcore" fans just seems like a good option imo. Maybe some ROM hacking chads will fill the void on day.

The problem with the Bd/Sp remakes is simple. They are were not remakes, they are reboots. A proper remake is something along the lines of R/B/Y to Fr/Lg. They got all new mechanics from the most recent game along with their available Mons, added abilities, and the new personality system from Ruby/Saphire/Emerald. Bd/Sp kept everything the same as the original other than the grand underground. It should've been called a remaster, but honestly the original had better looking graphics.

Platinum was my favorite pokemon game. They really let me down with Sinnoh remakes. I just hope they don't butcher gen 5

God this is why I’m hoping when they do gen 5that it’s the turning point and is at least close or on par with the gen 2 remakes. Just like how gen 5, to me, was the turning point in Pokémon story telling and made some of the most compelling characters while also designing Pokémon good enough to stand by itself from other generations. I know some people complain that the first gen 5 games forced that generation Pokémon onto the players but honestly it was the most refreshing thing.

ORAS are the best remakes we have Not having the frontier is bad, but all the game is fantastic

I didn't want to love ORAS, but I did. Absolutely beautiful games, vibrant and colorful, and the music was top notch. I personally didn't mind the chibi art style of BDSP, but those games really just gave me no reason to want to play them again. Personally I hope they don't make any more remakes and just focus on making new content going forward.

I Disagree with your take on ORAS. It's a parallel timeline of R/S, not emerald, it's a retelling of those games. There were 3 parallel time lines, R/S/E, the remakes focused on 2 of them. If the game was Delta Emerald then that's different, but it wasn't. The rayquaza cut scene stopping the box legends wouldn't make sense in a R/S remake, as only one is revived not both, rayquaza only comes out to stop Groundon and Kyogre fighting, not just if one is moving around. Adding onto this, is how rayquaza actually got its own storyline which ties into the main story and the gimmick of the Gen. The Battle Tower isn't missing but is just the battle maison, which is basically the same thing, just a smaller building. If you wanted the Battle frontier, then i understand your disappointment but once again it's a retelling of R/S not Emerald.

I ADORE the Let's Go games for one simple thing... _Partner Eevee._ My favorite Pokemon of all time!

I just finished a play through of both Heart Gold and Omega Ruby and tbh I think OR is better. It's more polished, has gorgeous visuals, has mega evolutions, etc. The lack of a Battle Frontier isn't that big a deal for me. Besides there's the Battle Resort which helps scratch that itch. The Delta Episode was also a really nice addition. So for me, both 10/10 games but I enjoyed playing OR a little more than HG

I also wanted and got disapointed with the Sevii Islands not present in HGSS

The failure of BDSP makes me mortified of Gen 5 remakes.

I don't mind TMs being single use as long as they keep something similar to Scarlet/Violet's crafting so you have access to an unlimited supply of them.

the reason as to why pokemon takes out extra content is because of the strict dead lines. They probably don"t want to risk not hitting the deadline just for an extra side quest. So again the problem falls on the company that brings these strict deadlines

As someone who grew up with Pokémon Emerald, I'm gonna be frank. The Battle Frontier was overrated, I spent more time watching Sudowoodo dance and catching Smeagles in Artisan Cave than replaying the actual attractions at the frontier. The Seviper tent, the tower, etc. All of them were finished in mere hours, then I went back to rematch the gyms and other trainers over and over instead. In my opinion, the only issues I had with Omega Ruby were that. A. It was too easy B. Zinnia needed more screen time. The manga gives Zinnia an amazing story (featuring gore) but the game gives her so much less, then just does away with her. But it was a huge step up over the rest before it, and to an extent, those thereafter.

You could say these remakes are becoming bear bones.

BDSP were the first and only Pokémon games I actively disliked. I fell off of Pokémon temporarily back when the original Diamond and Pearl came out so I held no nostalgia for them. I played Diamond years later (I got back into Pokémon around the time Black 2 and White 2 were released) but didn't really care for it. I thought BDSP would be Sinnoh's chance to grow on me but tbh it only made me dislike those games more. It was just... so unfun. I do own Platinum now and I agree its the overall better Sinnoh experience alongside Legends Arceus. Tbh the only redeeming quality I had with BDSP was the fact I could hunt down a legitimate shiny Arceus, which I promptly transferred out and never touched Brilliant Diamond again lmao. I do hold a lot more fondness for Unova so I'm waiting with baited breath on how the inevitable remakes turn out. Despite the issues with performance i do genuinely enjoy Scarlet and Violet so I'm cautiously optimistic about going back to Unova. Indigo Disk was a great little love letter to the region!

I dont want a gen 5 remake, i wish we could have it... for real.. that it were what we wish it to be, but at the moment, I'm happy as it is, just re-releasing the game would be enough, i dont want a remake if its gonna be like BDSP

As a Gen 1 and 2 player who didn't have Nintendo consoles after the GameCube, when I got a Switch I was so excited for new Pokemon game! I bought Shield and immediately regretted my purchase. It hurt because it was so boring I didn't get halfway through the games.

I already said this when ORAS was announced, and I had people throwing tantrums at me for telling they were bad remakes and Pokémon was downward, and time only gave me the reason. I can only fear for the inevitable Gen V remakes, being my favorite region, I'll hate seeing them don't giving the HGSS treat

Pokemon is a game to the fans, but it is a business for the creators. They think money, whereas we think fun. Nevertheless 3rd and 5th are my favorite gens.

Masuda’s logic to the customers are like: “Okay, now you’ve grown up. Put the Pokemon game away and do something else. Here we only make games for stupid little kids that cannot even handle challanges and for selling merch”. Yeah, we, ones who have been loyal to this game series for the last 27 years, are forgotten.

Hoping black/white remakes are just Pokémon gray