@@jpraise6771 Krillin: I’ll go out for this interview and please take care of the master while I’m gone 18 Android 18: ugh *makes hair into a ponytail* come here old man 🤣🤙
Regarding the hair thing, it seems they were not reverted to their old childhood selves, their adult selves were just shrunken down into kid form. (chibified) This is why Vegeta doesn’t have his childhood bangs and Roshi and Krillin are still bald. They are basically just mini versions of their adult forms.
But then he should still have his beard if this is a chibi version.And so should the kids. Is this a curse/wish suppose to make everyone chibi sized or kids? Some look chibi sized like chichi, bulma, krillen and 18 while the ones who look like kids are Mr Satan, Ox king, goten and trunks who are babies. Vegeta looks like his kid self from the broly movie and minus manga. Which seems to be the modern design of kid vegeta. So clearly they’re being turned into kids . It’s just that some of them look chibi sized which is lazy imo.
Dude above: It’s not inconsistent. You’re being a nitpicky contrarian. For aesthetic reasons they aren’t going to draw a child with a beard dude. They are chibi versions, but they still are actual kids as well, just not the same kids they biologically were when they were young. Get it? As far as Vegeta, he was clearly younger when he had the bangs than he was in the Broly film.
@@busymike the kid vegeta bang is complicated. In BOG , he had the trademark window’s peak. While in Super anime and manga, he has the bangs. Kid vegeta with bangs is Toei’s design. With Toriyama direct involvement, in BOG, Minus manga and the recent broly movie, he had no bangs. Toriyama came up with the idea that saiyans keep their hair from birth during the Cell arc. So Kid Vegeta having bangs wasn’t Toriyama’s idea. That’s Toei. Which is why here with his direct involvement, he doesn’t have them. The chibi stuff is probably design choice, so it’s whatever on that part.
They seem more like Chibi versions of themselves rather than kids, specifically Bulma, Vegeta, and Chichi. They don’t look like their original kid designs
Ox King, Mr Satan, and Roshi all lack their iconic facial hair in their chibi versions. I understand what you're getting at, though. Toriyama's new art style makes them look like chibi versions of their adult selves. But I think it's just the art style. Bulma even lacks her "chi-chi's" if you know what I mean.
You never watched Dragon Ball? He was constantly trying to pound 14 year old Bulma's clam. Now in Daima he's getting dressed up and ready to go down to the local middle school and have some fun. @Voided_Violet
It's actually pretty easy to dodge the perv thing. as the roshi's mind didn't changed with the transformation, you can make him be a pervert just to old women. Which can get pretty terrible if they get him a babysitter or something.
It’s going to be tricky, unless they really do aim it towards a younger audience.. in which case I think is unnecessary, he’ll show up for shock value then quickly shelved.
Not really, every female he has creeped on has two things... boobs and ass. If they don't have those then it's easy to say that he ain't interested in them. Then because of the lack of boobs and ass in this world they could make his comedic shtick how serious and focus he is in a world without boobs or ass. Then you can also have Bulma try her old tricks from DragonBall and roshi looks at her in a dejected/disgusted way.
@@Mandalore_ultimatespeak for yourself. We didn’t dedicate years of our lives for it to be RUINED! Literally no point whatsoever to make them kids again. Straight money grab. It’s not meant for the main fans.
I think that he will change his life around because of the training he did in the TOP. That entire arc of him learning how not to be a perv was good for him.
Yes it is a problem because nobody will care about this 4 years from now and please stop with this anime is going to be like the original dragon ball please og dragon ball is rated m for mature and dragon ball daima is rated BS for bullshit and that's the bottom line!!!! So go 😘 toei animation candy ass!!!!
@@BaithNa 💀 you can’t be serious, all the development these characters went through (especially goku and gohan) are completely gone by turning everyone into a kid. There’s a reason why GT was so unpopular Y’know
@@terrencepoinsett4169 TF are you on about 🤣 literally search up the biggest problems in GT and goku becoming a kid one of the main reasons (others being the first arc being boring asf and side characters being not existent). The head canon here is saying that goku being a kid wasn’t one of the reasons.
How come no one is asking about what would have happened to Shu, Mai and Pilaf? I can see a potential gag as they are remarking How they are finally starting to age up again and **BAM** they get turned back into babies again 😂
Didn't they already do an arch in the Super anime (no idea if manga adopted it) where Roshi overcame his perverted nature? I'm pretty sure they even put him against a woman in the TOP to sjowcase this growth. So no they don't have to nerf Roshi in Daima, they already nerfed him in Super.
@@d.i.ekokane1778 "they said it takes place between z n super" Who is "they"? If there was an official announcement from Toei or Toriyama, I'd expect the DB YTers to have covered it already, and not be making videos speculating about this very thing.
Roshi having hair in those episodes was filler . Toei did their own thing. But with Toriyama and his original manga, it wasn’t there or elaborate . We just know that old roshi doesn’t have hair because he’s just bald unlike krillin who thought he cuts his hair every time it grows for martial arts. Now it seems like Toriyama might be considering that Roshi was always been bald. Would you call it a retcon? Maybe.
I liked Roshi's hair in the filler. The subtley of being able to tell it was him from the glasses and his behavior was neat. But then again, Roshi said even in the anime as well that said he's naturally bald, so I guess we can't have it. I'm more concerned about his beard. Without it he looks a lot more like Krillin -- he's worn the shades too.
I cant believe people are still using filler to claim problems or plot holes in the series, when its filler from Toei. Like so many of these youtubers seriously need to read the manga, some claim to but yet still complain about filler logic not being in the continuity.
roshi says on manga that he always have been bald when krilin says to goku during their first encounter to look at him and that real martial artists always shave their heads
That was a good turnaround, considering your were editing this video at 5 A.M. this morning. Roshi should be bald because the magic or wish was for the Dragonball cast to become children, not hair growth. It would be interesting to see if the hair grows back over time.
@terrencepoinsett4169 No one said it was. I was stating it would be interesting to see if the writers of Daima would pay attention to that particular detail.
Daima! He's probably not even going to be in the series that much. Also them being turned into "Kids" is very questionable because why do Bulma, Chichi, and Mr. Satan look like that?
Roshi actually got better with his pervy nature in dragon Ball super for the T.O.P. so if they changed that it wouldn't be much of a problem cuz he already got it under control
He’ll probably get the Momonosuke treatment and get away with his perversion even more now, b/c “it’s ok since he’s a kid” rationale. Though I bet the de-aging will happen at the worst moment and he’ll get an ass kicking worse than Frost!
I thought of Momo too. He's arguably worse than Roshi since he knowingly would use his being a child to take advantage of women who wouldn't realise what he was doing...
I never understood why Roshi didn’t wished for youth. Not only would he be the strongest human ever, leagues above Krillin & Tien, but he could actually get girls & be happy
Keeping Super tied to GT because of DBZ's og ending is so stupid at this point. Characters are too overpowered. Is there even a point to Buu, as Freeza took over at this point?
I do agree with all this, but I also see that this could possibly become a lord slug situation, but for a good-aligned character. because master Roshi returns to youth, now not weak with age, and he gets to get stronger as said in the video. so, imagine how much stronger Roshi would be in his prime with however many years of experience with martial arts he has, he's already proven himself pretty strong at an old age in the tournament of power.. though he's definitely not surpassing Goku and Vegeta anytime soon, maybe he'll become a bit more active in fights. also, im curious what the buff form would look like as a child, if he still has it.
Another problem is that we are still near the end of dragon ball z and we aren’t gonna reach it anytime soon because of the manga and the super heroes movie still being near the end of z, I don’t get why they keep trying to prevent the story from reaching and passing the end of z
I think they could tone down Kid Master Roshi’s perverted nature or play off his perverted nature as a kid who tries to pick up older women and they play it off as a gag with older women rejecting him.
i feel like a good fix for the perversion thing is just to make make him how he used to be for the gag sometimes and say like hey hunga bunga that woman is smokin hot! too bad im a kid and cant do anything about it. something tells me however, seeing the previous track record of dragonball and how japan can be with anime and such, they are going to go the route that nobody wants them to take, the obviously bad and horrible one
Roshi realizes he doesn’t have any sexual attraction on account of being a kid and just gets depressed “Lookin’ at girls just doesn’t do what it used to…”
1st issue would be how some people might have issue figuring out the difference between kid krillian and kid Roshi. 2nd he was made as a pervert and we know It... Hard to get around that issue. 3rd... Why do it at all to him? The man is freaking ancient so him still being alive and kicking even if everyone else has to age up normally... Would still oddly work.
A cool way to implement master roshi would be some new training like spirtual or flexibility based to make up for the smaller bodies. Like he could recount some younger days where he had to work with less. Gives him something to do, teaches the cast something new to play with, and goes with the idea of focusing more on spirtual then physical strength like they were talking about in dbs super hero
Honestly, the fact that people are actually getting upset over this is absolutely hilarious to me, I found the concept that he's still bald extremely funny
Absolutely, also the very thought of him still being a pervert even as a kid, and it's still with women around their 20's would honestly be funny to see, especially considering the fact that it would also kind of remind us when we were kids that we would have crushes on older women despite the fact that we were like at least 8 or 9, after all; every little kid has at least a crush on somebody older than they are
What about how everyone excluding goten and trunks hairstyle stays the same even as kids. Goten should still retain the same hair style from the current dragonball super super hero. Trunks hair should still be blue. What about goku and vegeta not having tails as well as children?
Honestly their tails should grow back. A kid Saiyan tails does grow back whenever cut off until they are a young adult. Goten and Trunks however are different and are kinda more close to Universe 6 Saiyans where tails were not needed anymore, most likely because Goku and Vegeta stronger S-Cells as stated one time about S-Cells.
holy shit, I had no idea they were making another anime till I watched this video, just went and watched the trailer for it and I am hyped as fuck, it looks so good
I have a issue with some of the kid designs. They have original Dragon Ball to see the original designs the characters had, but Bulma and Chichi look exactly the same they did in super as adults. Its literally the same design as their adult selfs. Same with Android 18. The art-style looks cool, but that's so lazy
Honestly, I feel like a perfect way to play around this is to change the roles, make some scenes where some girl is very much in love with Pupil Roshi and his reaction is simply being hella oblivious. It would still be funny, and it would have the same theming, just toned down, but without any problem.
Honestly, ToP powerscaling was bonkers because characters couldn't kill one another. There was just no way Jiren would lose to Roshi in a real fight, but in the case of a tournament where you can't be lethal? I'd say Roshi used a shortcoming from Jiren to outpace him which was not being used to holding back that much to his advantage. There are situations which the stronger characters don't hold back, but they're far inbetween.
dragonballz lost the nuance that dragon ball had showing you dont have to be stronger to win. Roshi is one of the most SKILLED fighters in the universe is all. WIsh the story would return to that form or take some tips from hunter hunter.
A interesting topic I will say about Roshi being a kid lol. Anyway I think Roshi had things under control because No. 18 is dangerous in a way and most likely she have threatened Roshi if he tries anything funny, she will actually kill him by giving him the darkest of death stares. In the Majin arc of Z when he accidentally fell near her breast, he gives a look at her with No. 18 doing a uncomfortable annoyed forgiving look, that scene show's Roshi had things under control for along time but in that moment he couldn't resist so despite when she grabbed his head to almost breaking his neck, he still touched her. You have to remember No. 18 during the 6 year gap she was still considered dangerous. No. 18 in that scene not killing Roshi shows Krillin have told her to not kill Roshi. In Super Krillin have admitted he love her personality which tells how he actually and truly fell in love with her and married her.
6:47 Roshi likely made a wrong move in front of some space warlord and Gohan's generation was long gone and anyone else was either too weak or nowhere near to stop it...
If the cast being turned to kids means the show might supposed to be *for* kids, that might mean no more pervert antics 😂 I much prefer Roshi being a wise master than a dumb old horndog. That part of his character can totally stay intact. That idea of an woman mistakingly kissing kid Roshi thinking he's a real kid is a pretty funny scenario though, I must admit. I could see gags like that still happening.
bulma was a underage when she showed her tits to him in the original DB, so not sure why we are having this convo. he will obviously still be perverted, he is the quagmire of DB and this is Japan we are talking about here lol.
my original theory which is clearly obvious is that roshi had a much similar upbringing to goku where he traveled the world, did the turtle hermit "chore" training, and after all was said and done before the biggest part of his training, became bald to stay and train further with Mutaitos other pupils like how krillins old school all looked similar. Because roshi is bald in the anime's king piccolo flashbacks. But he does say he had it waxxed, which also might affect his hair growth, and maybe his means of immortality. Weirdly however, Shen (Crane Hermit) has hair in the anime (not sure about manga) and yet was bald in the king piccolo flashbacks besides other flashbacks where roshi had hair too. one more thing kid android 18 doesnt make sense because i thought shenron couldnt use wishes that involve aging or turning someone human if they are machines??? like he cant make 18 a actual human yet she becomes a kid, though idk how they turn in to kids but im guessing its the GT treatment
Hey qaaman, a bit random but if vegeta had gone grade 3 when delivering the final flash against cell, what are the chances he would’ve killed him? Or least put him in a state similar to his own self destruct?
@@MrVinnysWorld I mean, I don’t really think that’s a big question, not a big deal if we do or don’t because we’ll get the exact same fusions we have now if we do. Would be cool to get some new ones tho, imagine roshi and krillin😂
@@pt5728 I’d say no considering Cell survived a point blank kamehameha from mssj Goku and one from ssj2 Gohan. And just judging off everyones reactions when Goku was powering up just 50% he was way superior
I Think The MAIN Reason Kid Roshi Doesn't Have Hair Is Cuz Design Wise, If He DID People Would Say He's Related To Yamcha/Vice Versa, Or Something Stupid Like That, Since Young Roshi Kinda Had a Yamcha - Esque Type Of Hairstyle . So THAT'S Why I Believe Toriyama PURPOSELY Has Kid Roshi Be Bald
But he already looks like Krillin. But this is just like Goten and Trunks, they kept their same designs even though they are supposed to be older just to keep their iconic design from the Buu Saga.
@@TheOfficialRandomGuysupreme kai is fused with kabito until after they meet Beerus. They wished to defuse right before the tournament with universe 6.
@@jelloistasty Neither Vegeta or Goku are wearing Whis’ symbol, and How do we know if the de aging process de fused them? We don’t even know if this will be canon, and will just be a spin off series.
@@TheOfficialRandomGuy Gotenks is a thing, children can fuse. It makes no sense that deaging them would cause them to defuse unless that was specifically wished for.
I don't see this as an issue, as you already pointed out they could just have pervy jokes about women doting on him and seeing his affection for him as childhood innocence. And as you showed initially he still perved on the women Goku brought to him before his training so it still fits consistency-wise. As for perving on the main cast, all being kids and the fact Roshi never was THAT bad should see he doesn't do it.
Late to the discussion but, after all the gems of wisdom Roshi drops, then of course hits it from the back with one of his perverted jokes, I can't help but feel like your characterization of this wise old man, who's seen the world fall apart back and forth twice, not accounting for the amount of times he's seen borderline world ending enemies come by while leaving him nearly helpless... not great. This old man has seen terrifying crap like King Piccolo, Piccolo, Vegeta, Beerus, Buu and he even took part in the battle between universes for the sake of his homeworld Earth. This man has provided a wide rainbow of personality about himself. I like to think his perversion will become subtle, like the Incredibles example you gave. I dearly hope it's that because that'd be absolutely, fantastic.
Ben 10 and Dragon Ball both have the same issues, the writers (or someone else) is fixated on the days when the protagonist's was a child and keep making a excuse to go back to those days. If you want to a tell a story with a child version of the protagonist, just create a new story set in the past. The writers could of kept adding to the Path to Power continuity and the Ben 10 writers could have new series with 11 year old Ben that tells the story of why he wanted to take off the omnitrix.
I can't but help but notice they look more chubi more than children because they did shrink like kids but they just look like little versions of there adult forms its weird
To go on about the Bald topic, him having hair as young Roshi in the anime could very well just be a wig too, but it isn't really touched up on and considering he wears a wig in the tournament as Jackie Chun it could very well not be his first attempt at wearing a wig. But I will dial back this statement only for the simple fact that Toriyama has always been inconsistent when it comes to this franchise and he is not perfect, so you'll run into a few retcons here and there if not inconsistencies. That said it can be forgiven. Now about his character? Regarding of what I've seen of other animes and the such, it's perfectly normal to have a teen/child character have a perverse stereotype, as it has been done countless times in western fiction as well because young people often portray as energetic and hormonal. If it's overdone however and distasteful (AKA Bigmouth, I hate this show.) of course it'll be looked down upon. But Toriyama has always had a lot of his works be perverted and edgy for the sake of humor, whether I agree on this or not isn't really a factor, I'm just stating the obvious here. Roshi being a kid changes nothing to me, Japan just be Japaning.
I mean according to Super he’s not perverted anymore, he trained to get rid of his lecherous thoughts. Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think they’ve undone that in the movies (Broly, Super hero) or after the tournament of power, but if I am wrong please lmk when/what movie
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Oyuxk31xxfg.htmlsi=auXorAa7-YagiuId proof he did train to get rid of his perverted thought as this translation says
Roshi getting his hair back could have been a good for a couple jokes...the rest of his personality...particularly if this takes place between Buu and Super before he worked on his self control...oh boy, this could be grim
Wasn't the whole flashback thing with Roshi on Dragon Ball anime only though? Showing him actually having hair and all i mean. My memory is a bit rusty with the DB manga but i dont think it was shown.
Adventure time dealt with this issue pretty nicely. It'd be cool to see the same approach, that if we ignore that in OG dragon ball Bulma was a child and he didn't care...
In Buu arc, he touched Videl and was age 16 but kid Chichi yeah he haven't so everything is all good. Roshi is clearly shown to be attracted to older girls. Age 16 and older.
8:30 like go back in time.... that's an internal conflict for me because I believe everything lead to who I am now and what I have now and the connections I have. I'd be too afraid to loose some if those things like relationships 😅
Considering the young Roshi with hair is from a filler episode of the original Dragon Ball anime, and Kid Roshi with the bald head is Toriyama’s work, the hair thing is a moot point.
Young Roshi gonna be a menace to be honest. Going back to his former glory he will show any forbidden and dangerous technique he can do. You have no idea.
I know someone probably already mentioned this but roshi over here looking real Krillinish lol...On another note..I may be wrong..however, I thought krillin was monk of some sorts. Having a bald head as a kid
So, in short. We are all concerned that Roshi would become a pedophile. That's actually depends, since he was never attracted to OG Chichi despite wearing a sexy outfit.
You also have to remember No. 18 in Super gave Future Trunks a threat as a joke for killing her future self. This shows what and how she dealt with Roshi.
