The BIG THREE PRIVILEGE in KPOP

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@merlin1360 3 года назад

Big 3 companies suck (not groups) thank you for coming on my Ted Talk

@itsbreadie 3 года назад

PERIODT!

@everglowup 3 года назад

👏👏👏👏

@merlin1360 3 года назад

Ohh i got heart and pin thank you, i am famous now

@strawbabe8071 3 года назад

I mean they shaped Kpop, they have a lot of legendary artists (till 2010)

@itsbreadie 3 года назад

@@strawbabe8071 That's true but that doesn't excuse the way they treat their artists.

@ruoqifang 3 года назад

Tbh I don't think companies are searching for talented trainees anymore. They want visuals, stage presence and people that can stand out to others and attract attention. For vocal, singing and dancing companies can teach that.

@sedra4632 3 года назад

they have always done so, you are looking for someone who has potential not for someone who is already good at singing or dancing. So they look for people who has visuals because this isn't something they always can fix, mind you that there's a lot of idols that gets plastic surgeries

@ruoqifang 3 года назад

@@sedra4632 yeah ik this is how it works in this industry. They would rather pic someone who stands out on stage but has mediocre dance skills than someone who has good dance skills but doesn't stans out on stage.

@afifamashkoor9720 3 года назад

Yeah especially sm I know every exo members are very talented but every member is handsome as group visual too which I don't think is possible also aespa every member got plastic surgery(I'm not saying this it is said by qualified surgeon)

@clementinaendaya415 2 года назад

Yeah! So true

@kelp2243 2 года назад

yep i mean there r a lot of idols who got into their company and even the big 3 companies who didnt know how to sing or dance (eg wayv yangyang and he was picked out of thousands of other auditionees who cld sing and dance) so it rlly is down to ur 'aura' and visuals i wld say (and u have to be able to carry a basic tune obv but thats it)

@oeowowowowiei6412 3 года назад

rather than untalented, i’d say theres a lot of idols that’s much more mediocre compared to least popular groups without having the big 3 privilege

@rodahhhhshxjskjlk1239 Год назад

same theyre not untalented, just ok ish at what they do

@jeshellecerbito6697 Год назад

I totally agree with mediocre idols, some even borderline untalented. But it doesn't mean they don't bring anything to the table. Most of the time, they're the visuals, the comedians, the models.

@weeabooper 3 года назад

"THERES NO PRIVILEGE" meanwhile there's the difference in attention Aespa's comeback is getting compared to fromis_9's and Rocket Punch's that released the same day...

@jehugantala9148 2 года назад

And none of that is aespa's fault they're talented, they trained just like the members of the gg you mentioned the difference is that they made it to sm's standard and sm has the influence and budget to make their debut appealing

@weeabooper 2 года назад

@@jehugantala9148 but that budget IS the privilege

@jehugantala9148 2 года назад

@@weeabooper and I'm not sure but it sounds like you take that negatively, SM did not start big time, it definitely started small as well and worked their way up by creating incredible groups and music, they're just literally reaping what they sow, don't expect that sm won't invest in aespa as they have the vision of aespa's success and will use their resources for that investment to return

@weeabooper 2 года назад

@@jehugantala9148 I don’t think of it as a negative! I actually love aespa, I just don’t want to ignore that the groups by bigger, more established companies with better exposure and bigger budgets don’t have a leg up on smaller companies. Groups like Aespa get to have a whole public rollout with lots of speculation on group members and a pr stunt that generates lots of hype for their debut that could only happen with the budget of a larger company. I find it unrealistic to think that even if they were just as talented in a smaller company, they could be as big just from one debut.

@jehugantala9148 2 года назад

@@weeabooper Small company groups can be big though with talent and hardwork look at svt and bts, sistar, gfriend, T ara and mamamoo they are definitely on par with big 3 groups in terms of popularity because of their music and talent and I think it's much more meaningful for an artist to start of from scratch and then flourish to success and besides if the groups you stan are small then maybe it's time for the fans to start streaming and purchasing their products rather than crying over the privilege these groups from big 3 that they actually deserve coz after all evaluation and standards on big 3 really is high

@hyunjinsanity 2 года назад

I think BLACKPINK are the best example of the 'Big Three Privilege'.

@shaziamumtaz8414 2 года назад

Yeah true but they met the expectations Blackpink are talented and I am happy for them

@hyunjinsanity 2 года назад

@@shaziamumtaz8414 of course! They're extremely talented

@Shreya-wm2of 2 года назад

@@shaziamumtaz8414 Jisoo is not talented

@t.p5931 2 года назад

I think they really standout out of all those big 3 groups 🤷they just have that aura even before their debut .... Idk maybe it's just my opinion but they are just charismatic .

@ptabraham984 2 года назад

@@Shreya-wm2of jisoo is talented ok

@nicholasdh_63 3 года назад

When it comes to Gender Previlege, it's on JYPE, look how difference on treating male idols compared to female idols

@cedrickandreo7321 3 года назад

Yg says hi

@cedrickandreo7321 3 года назад

@I Am Always Bored ikr

@cedrickandreo7321 3 года назад

@Alicia Buhororonyandwi i think you're new to kpop it's like you didn't know how misogynist yg is.

@nicoleisasupreme 3 года назад

@I Am Always Bored i mean, they’re best bros 🤷🏻‍♀️

@straightkidz8387 3 года назад

@Alicia Buhororonyandwi you must not know Big Bang😂...

@Exonorm27 3 года назад

Lemme tell you... Everglow’s company is RICH AF. It has nothing to do with not being able to afford it and everything to do with other groups being more popular, or other companies having more influence. YueHua are a HUGE Chinese company. Edit: apparently YueHua has a higher value than SME. Goes to prove my point.

@LovelyKissess 3 года назад

They have money but they're not known. I think if the company itself started to gain attention, it'll help the artist more. Same with Cube

@heavnknows 3 года назад

yeah ye hua is big but they WOULD NEVER have the same political influence in korea for a Chinese company they simply have money but not status

@mariakiwi1428 2 года назад

@@heavnknows money buys status

@heavnknows 2 года назад

@@mariakiwi1428 not in Korea really so much goes , from religion to patriotism to past history with China

@nad-ia-8069 2 года назад

They also manage the Chinese members of Cosmic Girls, that is originally a group Starship x YueHua. They sure aren’t as known as the big three but they are definitely in the top ten’s Korean agencies.

@Nameless_mixes 3 года назад

THANK YOU!!! Someone finally said it! SM doesn’t know how to market to save their lives! Red Velvet would have been a much bigger group by now if SM did their job! And EXO probably would be able to compete with BTS if SM knew how to handle their idol’s comebacks. Since they suck, Red Velvet gets outshone by Blackpink and Twice (and is starting to get outshone by Itzy too). So yeah, just from being in the big three doesn’t guarantee success. But it definitely gives you a leg up in the beginning.

@izonexbae 2 года назад

I mean, outshine I wouldn’t say since in Red Velvet is still on par with the other three in charting power so the gp is still focusing mostly on them

@micaelapaz7530 2 года назад

Actually, exo compete with BTS for a long time during 2016-2019. They were the kings. I remembered there were a lot of fan wars in those times, but then I think some exo members stared acting or going solo. However, I think they could be in BTS level but they had other priorities.

@katmz6232 2 года назад

i mean, you could argue for 2017, but 2018-2019 exo was nowhere near a competition to bts....even wanna one was more of a threat (but not really)....SM missed the golden time to compete in 2017 when bts was only starting to gain their momentum....

@AwqCutie 2 года назад

SM spends too much time in a lab trying to cook up new and complicated concepts rather than promoting their idols

@jiminbangtan28 2 года назад

Lets be real EXO couldn't compete with BTS cuz BTS bulldozed into American market which is sth very hard and only them could achieve. Maybe in korea EXO was equal to BTS but not in the global market

@melodycao5376 3 года назад

I don't see this mentioned as much but one other privilege of being in the Big 3 is advertising/ambassador deals. Being a Big 3 idol means you can become brand ambassadors for bigger brands more easily than a group from a small one. And it's probably easier to get positions like MCs, I think yo'd rarely see a rookie idol from a small group MCing for a music show, they'd have to have some success first but Big3 idols are more likely to MC as rookies. I could be wrong about that though but I did think that when Sungchan was made Inkigayo MC. And yes SM stans like claiming everyone hated every SM group and called them flops at first but people actually had to know these groups existed to claim they're flops unlike smaller groups who do flop and no one mentions it because no one knows they even existed. And even if not all SM groups were sweeping award shows left and right as rookies, they usually break quite a few records that people conveniently don't mention. The annoying thing about big 3 privilege deniers is the that the instant you speak about it, they will claim you're one of the people who try to nullify the group's success when you're not. You're just trying to point out it's okay to accept the privilege exists.

@xyzz2540 2 года назад

I do agree they get a good head start but there is competition to get in. Ppl conveniently forget that. Even the visuals are able to keep up the performance. They worked hard for it too. I'm an exol so I'll give eg of exo. They come from sm so they for sure got head start. But do they lack? Do they fall behind in terms of talent? It wasn't handed to them they won it. Its just that sometime ppl dont consider these things and discredit them. If they have that talent and it factor they can make it big. I'm not denying the opportunities they get but ppl should also not deny the hardship they go through to be there.

@thatsamonsterofcapitalism7260 3 года назад

It hasn't even started but I know that it's going to be perfect.

@GaucheNoir 3 года назад

MOOD

@ethanol4367 3 года назад

As an SM stan, I can say big3 privelage exist but you have to get it. SM has so many trainees and literally like 9 or less debut in a group every 4 years. I mean EXO had 100 people competing to debut and only 12 did. Red velvet original concept was like NCT's but it was scrapped so all those trainees waited in limbo until they left. I mean Aespa was supposed to happen but SM kept pushing it back and the original line up all left except NingNing. When SM was creating WayV, they were telling trainees that they're really only looking for Chinese members. Then those members had to compete to try to get a spot in WayV. SM training is like a survival show in itself. Then when they actually debut, most of the groups are hated. This includes F(x), Exo, Red Velvet, NCT, and Aespa. All these groups were hated by the Korean GP, and had to grow up into their names. So while Big3 privilege exists, it doesn't really help as much as everyone expects.

@ethanol4367 3 года назад

@imo meraki Technically your right, I should've said smngg

@gracemino6955 2 года назад

But aespa seems like the members parent payed for them. Look at most sm idol most of them were discovered by sm agent in street unlike aespa specially gisele her stage presence dance and her rap is so questionable!

@rheanaaiselg.quisao5749 2 года назад

@@gracemino6955 I think they audition and karina is actually good as a dancer SHE IS GOOD but not GREAT. Her vocal is actually good and her technique is great. ningning was in SM roockies Winter was pick and trained by 1 of the welp idk best trainer in SM I guess.(Is he a director or something) Gisselle has a good rap skill and she actually got vocal that harmonize Aespa is pretty much Gisselle. Well idk about her dancing. But Gisselle has a good writing/composer capability.

@DGXD-te3iq 2 года назад

@@gracemino6955 Aespa is really talented! And I personally think Giselle is a great rapper and she actually is a pretty good decent singer (lucid dreams, forever) A lot of kpop group members are scouted in the streets or just out of nowhere. TXT, Itzy, and more groups’ trainees were chosen through this process. It’s been happening for years nothing new. Sure Aespa has privilege, but I don’t think that means we should ignore the talents they clearly have.

@lovelypanda8676 3 года назад

As for why there are so many "untalented" "filler" idols, boy I have an answer for ya: Korean Culture. Your reputation and place in society is everything this is why: - They value hardwork over talent even if the hardworking person isn't as talented - They value an obedient personality over troublemakers. And this goes hand-in-hand with hardwork, because someone, who puts so much effort into something is less likely to do something stupid and make all of that effort go to waste. I mean we're talking about a society where a little careless error can ruin your whole career. - Talking about reputation, working in groups puts even more pressure on you to be a hardworking and obedient robot, because slipping up ruins not only you, but your co-workers as well. However working in groups also means that you can cover each other's flaws (and this is why groups with more members don't usually have outstanding multitalents, but rather people who are only exceptional in one thing really, like Jihyo in singing, Tzuyu with visuals or Momo with dancing, and it somehow works as well as a small group with multitalents). To put it simply: You can't cut, photoshop, autotune or perform plastic surgery on someone's attitude. Why do you all think the idols are overworked even before debut? Raising skill levels quickly is not the only reason training years are intense, but it's also a really good test of whether that idol will be able stand the hardships of a debuted idol. This is just an explanation of how I see things and I don't really condone this way of thinking even if it means I'm shitting on a whole society. I understand wanting to test someone's attitude, because nobody would want to hire a lazy person, but overworking can have the opposite effect and this is why a lot of them end up smoking marijuana or getting in all sorts of scandals to try and get away from their heavily controlled life.

@suckmetaehyung69 2 года назад

Hmm your point on the attitude ain't true. There's a lot of idols with shitty attitude off camera. It's the company who promote the pure innocent idol.

@blrfivvuvu Год назад

But being a bad person in your daily everyday life is different from being an obedient employee, an employer couldn't care less about what you do in your private life, but if you respect them and do as they say, that's what matters to them.

@jeshellecerbito6697 Год назад

THIS. A lot of newer fans do not get this. Some of the answers to these debates are as simple as that: Korean Culture. It's something we'll never truly understand since we weren't brought up in their shoes.

@invu_lynn 8 месяцев назад

Agree with you on everything but saying Jihyo is only good at singing is objectively not true

@ambre4144 25 дней назад

@@invu_lynn right. I would say she’s an all rounder ( the only one in twice )

@rowanjoy419 2 года назад

"the competition thing" Just look how people tread Everglow in "adios" era, people were saying that they copy blackpink, people really were hating on everglow for the most stupid reason. But as blackpink come from YG, they are the standard so whoever group that debut with a girl crush concept now they will be compared with blackpink.

@elonpapasavelooner4822 2 года назад

Big 3 privilege is VERY MUCH REAL. Anyone that thinks otherwise is in denial. You see, artists debuting in the big 3 already have an audience waiting on them. In scenarios like, lets take Blackpink for an example, when Blackpink was on the verge of debuting. YG was actively posting introductions for trainees and there was already a literal fucking audience waiting for Jennie to debut. They called her "Jennie the trainee" back then and people were IMPATIENTLY waiting for her to debut so they can bias her and support her. Even big 3 groups with discographies that you absolutely cannot listen to unironically, will still be relevant, in the spotlight and sell a bunch of albums because they always had an audience. Period. This isn't to say that big 3 artists aren't talented and hard working but they definitely do have it easier and that is undeniable. They don't have to worry about "breaking into the industry". Yes, the auditioning or scouting criteria maybe strict for these companies but once these idols have been selected/scouted and don't go through elimination, they'll still come out fine. With groups from smaller companies? Not so much. Especially not when there's groups like SOLIA that disbanded within 4 days of their debut because their company didn't have enough funds to keep them going. Even if they did have the funds, I doubt they would've made it that big. Saying that the big 3 privilege doesn't exist is a big "fuck you" to groups and idols like SOLIA that never even got a chance to showcase their talent and skills simply because they could've done better if they were in a bigger or more reputable company.

@shaziamumtaz8414 2 года назад

But Jennie and Blackpink met the expectations literally so talented they are that beautiful like other gg like red velvet or twice but they really talented

@quanganhle6148 2 года назад

@@shaziamumtaz8414 no one says they are not talented. But there are a bunch of people out there who are just talented as BP, or RV, or TWICE, ready to give it all, hardworking, but still don’t have the same opportunity because they are not from the big three.

@shaziamumtaz8414 2 года назад

@@quanganhle6148 but those people who are same as rv bp and twice could also debut or audition for big three but did not get selected or didn't give audition both of these thing are their fate only or you can say fault while these popular groups got the popularity cause they clear the audition and work hard for this day

@shaziamumtaz8414 2 года назад

@@quanganhle6148 do think big 3 was just formed like that people behind big 3 worked very hard ti be here like there ceo and their early group like big bang and all

@Ryuoinsomnia 2 года назад

@@shaziamumtaz8414 both of these things are their fate or fault? wow huh thats like saying ohh u didnt born rich too bad ur luck sucks its ur fault

@thekpopstanturtle1409 3 года назад

I wouldn't agree on the "untalented" part but everything else u are totally right, KEEP PREACHING U QUEEN

@skwnjur3179 3 года назад

The big three privilege is a thing but it doesn't apply to every group in the big three

@remaddy5469 3 года назад

I remembered Winner,

@bangtanpinkforever21 2 года назад

@@remaddy5469 Winner has massive fanbase in Korea.

@idkanymore12 2 года назад

My mind went straight to Day6, I hate JYP

@hederlisa 2 года назад

@@remaddy5469 Winner was huge. YG just stopped paying attention to them and focused on BP.

@quanganhle6148 2 года назад

@@remaddy5469 Winner was huge when they debut.

@statesofgracie 2 года назад

4 months later but a perfect example of big 3 privilege is jyp’s new girl group and their “blind package”. no info on the group at all besides they’re a girl group coming in february from jyp but their debut album has sold 60k copies 6 months before their debut, before we even get any info on the girls in the group or even how many members there are or their name or anything. you can partially contribute this to the fact it’s “limited” so people want to make sure they get it just in case but you’ve also got people that a) typically like jyp groups so they’re getting it because they expect they’ll like this one too and other people that b) are buying it to resell it because they know a jyp girl group will be successful and they want to profit off their limited edition debut album. this is absolutely not meant as any kind of hate towards the yet to be revealed members or anything (I even bought an album myself) but it just goes to show the type of privilege that comes from being a big 3 group. you don’t even have to actually be a group yet. any non big 3 company wouldn’t get that type of response for something like that.

@alguien..s 2 года назад

the debut was a mess but the girls are very talented

@Aglae_Santiago 3 года назад

I’m pretty sure that if Everglow were from the big 3/bighit, they surely would have a lot more wins.

@LovelyKissess 3 года назад

And if any of the big 4 groups were in smaller companies, same music, clothes, artists, they'll have a whole lot less views

@NoName-dx1no 2 года назад

If Yuehua were as big as they were in China then yep 💀

@tiired2762 2 года назад

loona, stayc, everglow, dreamcatcher etc😔

@audio4642 2 года назад

Same goes for loona and Dreamcatcher

@akunna6338 2 года назад

@@LovelyKissess Excluding BTS yeah

@foosheezoo 2 года назад

I always think about Mamamoo when videos like this one are made. I feel like they don’t get an bunch of video views specially as of recent. I see how Twice gets so much views in seconds (which don’t get me wrong, they’re talented) but I don’t see a lot of people talking about Mamamoo. They don’t seem to have a busy schedule when it comes to promotions. They’re releasing a song called mumumuch in a few days and there has been zero promotion for it. They are very underrated and just like BTS, they had to start from the bottom. Same could be said for Kim Woojin too.

@anyone1111 Год назад

Yes yes and YES to all of this

@jinnyhg 3 года назад

Was it only me that was really wanting her to drop a name on the untalented idols part? 🤔 I would watch an 1h video of that happy oof

@sleetsrainfall6910 3 года назад

But the butthurt stan will attack her and won't accept her opinion so better she keep quite

@matthewjakaj3832 3 года назад

SHES LITERALLY MY BIAS BUT JISOO

@watashi5700 3 года назад

@@matthewjakaj3832 of Blackpink? She can sing and her dancing has improved

@moseum1048 3 года назад

@@matthewjakaj3832 Jisoo definitely isn’t untalented

@user-vk3ir5lm3k 2 года назад

@@matthewjakaj3832 jisoo naturally isn't as talented as the other members imo but she is skilled and hardworking nowhere near untalented

@shadow_warlockgr 2 года назад

Everglow aren't popular in Korea because of Yuehua and basically racism against foreigners.(They don't want a Chinese company to succeed, and that's facts), but you can't tell me that if Dreamcatcher or Weki Meki or Bvndit had debuted under a big 3 company they wouldn't have been exponentially more popular than they are now.

@anyone1111 Год назад

Legit though!!!!

@happywhite1st537 2 года назад

I want to correct only one thing. Itzy don't only have Chaeryeong from Sixteen survival show. Itzy also have Ryujin. Ryujin came 1st in "mixnine survival show". Her audition videos for mixnine gone viral in naver at that time. Itzy also have been talked in town because it supposed to be Somi's group (1st on I.O.I). But she left in the last minutes. I remember months before Itzy debut, many news mention how JYPE next girl group would have 2 girls who came 1st in 2 different survival shows. (But 1 left)

@happywhite1st537 2 года назад

But anyway, i really like your videos. I really like how you gave opinion with reasons. And your reasons is very acceptable. Thanks for your videos!

@shadow_warlockgr 2 года назад

If that actually worked this way, Weki Meki and Pristin should've been a lot more popular because of the IOI members that they have/had. One member can't carry the group's popularity. It helps but nowhere near as much as you think.

@happywhite1st537 2 года назад

@@shadow_warlockgr yes, i got the point. If the only factors we compare is only that, yes, i agree, there are a lot more groups should be more popular. But still, indeed, different situations, different result. If we want to compare, we need to compare apple to apple. We need to compare every single factors. Survival show rating, member's ranking in the survival shows, member's number of votes in every single episodes, member's popularity ranking in every comeback, screen time in survival shows, marketing strategies, the market itself, group concepts in every comeback/song, member personal branding, even group style and outfit counted too. and there are more to mention. It is very complicated if you wanna compare.

@core712 Год назад

@@shadow_warlockgr but its a different case with somi, she isnt just an ioi member, she got 1st in produce 101 and was also very popular in sixteen

@shadow_warlockgr Год назад

@@core712 Yoojung and doyeon ranked very high in pd101 and were very popular but weki meki is barely surviving yey Yoojung and Doyeon are doing well with their solo activities. A popular member can only bring so much attention to a group. The companies' fame, resources and connections play a much larger role. Especially in a such close "everyone knows everyone" industry that is Kpop. We know of many cases when larger companies botched smaller companies' success in SK. That's how oligarchies work.

@marsretro4871 3 года назад

Visual and any form of clout pre-debut for idols weighs much more than talent. Kpop is an industry based on those and the more you are popular and visually pleasing the more demand there is for you to be seen everywhere. This explains the stigma why sm is so focused on visual and how kpop big 3 groups have more props and expensive stuff on the visual aspect, so they can reach that standard. Like there are many instances where visuals or members who were famous before are more popular than members with exquisite talent, especially in the big 3z

@lilbloomingdaisy9643 2 года назад

I'd argue SM focuses more on vocals than visuals. S. Koreans like to say how pretty Yoona and Irene are (for ex.) but internationally AND in Korea people talk about the vocals way more.

@dodonlikevi6462 2 года назад

@@lilbloomingdaisy9643 i agree and disagree with you imo they scout/decide who gets in focusing on visual but train/decide who will debut focusing on vocal(some on rap)

@veryrare9161 2 года назад

@@lilbloomingdaisy9643 that’s where your wrong. Most of the sm groups only have 1 or 2 really good vocalists. And the others are literally visuals that’s it. You know it’s the truth. There are members in some of sm groups that literally don’t contribute anything but their looks. And that’s a fact. Sm focuses on visual first and vocals second. Ain’t no way vocals is the focus especially considering how most of their groups sing with a loud ass backtrack and aespa doesn’t sing at all live

@yurineivilleromartinez1311 3 года назад

I'm ready to hear nothing but FACTS Queen.

@sommerpoole4828 3 года назад

I think big three privilege exists but then you have artist from the big three that majority of kpop stans have never heard of bc the company doesn't care enough to promote them the way they should

@biahao 3 года назад

Mmmm no. I've never heard of a kpop stan not knowing all big3 groups. If you've been in kpop for at least a year you know all of them. The promotion is already there because you debuted in big3. Maybe not all stans know the songs but everybody knows the groups' names

@sommerpoole4828 3 года назад

@@biahao im not talking about just groups im also talking about solo artists as well. There are plenty of people in big3 that literally barely anyone knows about unless they have a viral song.

@f-line5584 3 года назад

@@sommerpoole4828 that's because the public usually do not care for solo artists/bands(like day6) is because they are that, they're not idols/do not promote as idols,boa is pretty successful even tho shes a soloist its bcs she's an idol

@f-line5584 3 года назад

@@sommerpoole4828 and to add to that akmu wasn't relatively that well known until the girl(sorry i dont know her name) debuted with the song alien as an idol

@juvymagdura2746 3 года назад

@@biahao there are kpop stans who have no idea day6 and AKMU exists, it's possible

@Vanessamunz 3 года назад

„Another one!“ *Dj Khaled voice* 🙌🏾🥰 Your Video came just right. Like always 💁🏾‍♀️

@jaeminok8544 3 года назад

Yeah I believe that the big 3 privilege exists a 100% but the Untalented thingy? No I cant agree on that. There is no idol in a big 3 company that isn't talented I could think of. You gotta be talented in atleast one thing whether it was singing, raping or dancing. While some might not be as talented as others, it doesn't make them "untalented" or whatever.

@iameverywhere236 3 года назад

true I agree with you there is no way the would make an untalented idol debut like that is impossible since I think I heard that they have to go for like 3 or 4 rounds to get accepted

@jaeminok8544 3 года назад

@@iameverywhere236 yeah plus the training before debut, and those who debut with little training would already be really talented at something.

@iameverywhere236 3 года назад

@@jaeminok8544 True and even if they were just casted for there visuals I mean they will train them and they will be talented like you said and no dumb big company will debut an trainee that is not talented that will cause k-netzs to hate them more

@f-line5584 3 года назад

Id argue against your argument,talent is something you are born with,anyone can be trained to dance/sing/rap esp if you already have a pretty face/a great variety personality,lucas from nct literally got into sm by just making poses

@f-line5584 3 года назад

You can be untalented but still be "average" or "good" at dancing/singing/rapping

@existentialcrisis4592 3 года назад

I REALLY LOVE YOU LIKE- I'm just so satisfied with how you really stay unbiased. And finally someone said it, IT ISN'T A BAD THING.

@magaliscarsi 3 года назад

BH is not perfect, and I'm not going to say it is. but I will always be grateful that when Bangtan told them "we need a break" they gave them a break until the next tour date. (It could be a longer break, but ok) I just find out your channel and I really love your voice and your opinions. If one day you don't know what to talk about, I suggest an "Everything is OK until BTS does it' video because no one talk about it (obviously this happen with other artist too). Or how they became (even before they were big) the punching bag of K-pop (and now western stans too), it amaze me how normalize people have the hate that this group receives.

@teye4315 2 года назад

Finally someone said it.LOUDER pls .I really feel bad for them

@22mae 2 года назад

Hybe blood stans romanticizing a kpop capitalist

@Tanishqa700 2 года назад

@@22mae a capitalist better yet a businessman that respects their artist. U know what leave it big 3 stans find the concept of respect harder to understand

@masterywithdebraandkuku3410 2 года назад

I think they allowed bts to take a break because at this point even if they go on haitus for 300000000 years armys will still support them!

@celine9richardson 2 года назад

@@22mae acting like kpop isn’t a capitalist genre in the first place 😂😂😂😂

@m.s9972 2 года назад

Thank you for this video, it's a much needed discussion. I had a couple things to add (if only to drive your point further) but I saw in the comments people already said, Yue Hua is a rich company. Only goes to show that even with money, you need to work so much harder to get close to the recognition the Big 3 get. Another thing is that we cannot underestimate the HUGE significance the Big 3 clout plays in monopolizing kpop industry in general. The Big 3 groups collect music show wins one after the other, more than fingers on both of my hands. It's ridiculous to the point that some groups compete with their own track that has FINISHED ITS PROMOTIONS. How does that not make your blood boil? To a smaller group, getting even ONE win can make or break their career. How many amazing groups with potential faded into the background because they couldn't even show what they could do? Meanwhile Big 3 groups collect them like damn pokemons

@marigam 2 года назад

This video really helped me because for the first time I watched a Korean gg competition show called My Teenage Girl and I was sooo confused by the editing and the girls chosen and the voting result. Watching this I see that this is a industry problem and what happened on that show is no different(except maybe the chosen girl is less talented). Your video helped me categorise exactly what happened and understand it’s normal for them. It’s going to take a lot more to get me to try one of these shows again. I don’t need the stress and fury in my life😩

@Hobiemyhubby 2 года назад

It's funny that people who usually says big 3 privilage doesn't exist are big 3 stans who would eventually support or check out the comebacks and music of their ults sister or brother group☠️

@kpop_mode_on 3 года назад

Yes another great video from a great person🥰

@addyvalencia 3 года назад

I love your videos! You’re not afraid to speak your opinions and the truth. Another great watch!

@Sksk-pj4xs 3 года назад

Even young k from day6 said that day6 got more recognition bcs they are in a big company. Ofc big 3 privillage is exist but it doesn't mean that people can discredit big3 artist's hardwork and talent. Just no :)

@woojincubs2058 3 года назад

You are really posting this right before I am going to sleep 😴 let me get some rest (NVM I choosed to stay up cuz your videos are gold)

@everglowup 3 года назад

sorry about that luv... I promise its worth it...

@woojincubs2058 3 года назад

@@everglowup that is why I am staying up 😌

@itsbreadie 3 года назад

I love your name 🥺🥺

@woojincubs2058 3 года назад

@@itsbreadie thanks 😊

@synthiandrakon 2 года назад

It's funny when people try to act like one company is better than the others, it's like people want to believe bighit is better because they seem to treat BTS well not realising that the only reason bighit treats BTS as well as they do is because they are as successful as they are. If Bts didn't blow up they'd have ended up like any other idols from small companies, being paid very little and saddled with unpayable amounts of debt

@itsbreadie 3 года назад

Another amazing video! This channel is so underrated 😩✋🏻

@jass029love7 3 года назад

This is my first video of yours that I have watched, but I'm subscribing now! I love that you were stating facts instead of opinions👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

@nikadekarinatih260 2 года назад

Girl, you're savage!!!😆😆 Facts, you spitted facts. People not ready for it at least some people at least for now. but as time goes on they will.

@NightPain 3 года назад

Finally someone said this. People say that being treated properly is a privilege like no, it’s a right and the Big 3 do have a privilege. However, the privilege doesn’t give them immune to getting thrown off the shelf for giving lacklustre efforts and not working. Like it’s the Big 3, they’re likely able to take down a group, disband them just because the idols aren’t working. So they’re all working lol

@enieni1134 2 года назад

i rarely ever go on stan twt and tbh if the group can make music that scratches my brain the right way, i will support them. maybe vote if i have the time

@ireneningningjiwonlizmymothers 2 года назад

when people say that Big Three groups have no creative freedom, and then you look at Stray Kids that literally produce all their own music.

@honetar19 3 года назад

I agree with most of the part but the part you said some members are not talented in big3 group it's, I don't know what word to use but the things is they just don't what their idols to be good at singing or dancing there are other things too, if u are going to compare them to somebody then definitely you will find someone who is better in something from that member but the purpose of that member is not to ace singing or dancing, it can be other things too I guess like stage presence, visuals but u should be good enough to match what other members are doing so that performance look flawless, I think the reason and benefit of working in a group are if there is a member who is lacking in something another member can compensate for that...

@GaucheNoir 3 года назад

Always speaking facts and I'm here for it with my tea

@avb20540 2 года назад

I'm hoping for Dreamcatcher to start climbing up in 2022 and 2023 if their exponential rise keeps occurring, hopefully to challenge the Big 3 girl groups (Blackpink, Twice, Red Velvet). Especially because they're from a tiny company and TRULY very talented. Hopefully their excellence shines through, despite the advantages that the Big 3 have I am hoping the same for the other super talented small company girl groups (Stayc, Loona, Pink Fantasy, etc....)

@danielabarca8775 3 года назад

They don't care about your mental health, damn this hits harder after the statement that KQ released today about malicious comments being bad for their idols and the mental health of the fans (thanks to fvcking kingdom fanwars) 👀 I enjoyed a lot this video, I want in an argument about this privilege on twt today and there's a lot of points here that I didn't think about it before, but still upstes me how people thinks that the money this companies have is irrelevant like, they're not being in the industry for not than 10 years for nothing, really great video ❤

@alissosonvasq 3 года назад

your videos are pure gold.

@beomgrunge768 3 года назад

'The only companies who tread their idols good is kq and 10x' this moment when u find out that at least ONE of ur SIX faves are treadet normal

@fexygichana4023 2 года назад

The best examples supporting the big 3 privilege are definitely the reactions in survival shows when the big 3 trainees are first introduced

@atiredail.e 3 года назад

great video!! 👏👏👏👏 i'm not sure i've got all my facts straight but i've heard that nct (from sm ent) has a bit of creative freedom nowadays

@queeniemelody6992 3 года назад

All my opinions rolled up into 1 pleasant video. Thank you💜

@addykleppner4419 3 года назад

Solid video, thanks. If I could make a request, could you make a video about marketing in kpop? That would be interesting.

@Ryuoinsomnia 2 года назад

If Dreamcatcher is in Big 3, They would have dominate the Kpop GG industry by now. Try to Change my mind

@ilanakidiadia3181 Год назад

Only facts~

@jasoninthea.m7471 3 года назад

The big 3 privilege does exist. I'm a stan of small Company groups and alot of people call small company group Mv's cheap which really shows how people look at the expensive Quality From big groups and expect everyone to produce the same quality (even when they don't have the finances). Don't ridicule a group just because their Quality doesn't fit to your standards Because you like expensive. Appreciate the Goddamn song, Instead Of criticising

@remaddy5469 3 года назад

Well.. they will never understand the fact

@jasoninthea.m7471 3 года назад

@@remaddy5469 yes

@remaddy5469 3 года назад

@@jasoninthea.m7471 and bro probably u should have summarized the comment, it's too big to read and people skipped it. Otherwise, u would get so many likes for it

@jasoninthea.m7471 3 года назад

@@remaddy5469 sure. I just am an opinionated person, I cannot summarize anything

@remaddy5469 3 года назад

@@jasoninthea.m7471 but u have seen, people like to skip long comments... that's why I told u to do this

@Vanessamunz 3 года назад

Not the Nicki Minaj thunder sound hahaha 😂💀 14:01

@wingstonecryzleo1587 3 года назад

Fun fact Twice is the only group in big3 that didn’t get the privilege of being in big3. 1. They have go to street and sell their own Tickets for their debut show 2. During Twice debut time early 2015 JYP was on verge of becoming bankrupt and was going to be kicked out of big3. 3. Twice debut song Like ooh ahh didn’t charted well like it didn’t even entered top100 during that era but charted after Cheerup became viral. 4. They had to perform in small venues like in schools to promote their songs. 5. Cheerup’s phrase “Shy Shy Shy” made the song popular and viral not the song itself but later people were hooked with the song and by this way they started to gain hits after hits not because they were from Jype 6. Even though Twice came from reality TV show sixteen the rating of the show was very very low considering the fact that it was from JYPE.

@yosandrytejedadelrosario8944 3 года назад

Not being that popular in ther first rookie year is not that bad, they were building a fanbase wich is fine, in fact the next year in 2016 they even winned a daesang for cheer up

@jorgeesco8739 3 года назад

Agree

@yasminal 3 года назад

naw boo hoo they weren’t popular for one year while they were building a fan base.

@Ty-ru1zh 3 года назад

I don’t think big3 privilege only consists of getting instantly popular. It also means that you have special industry connections. Even if jyp was bankrupt... they still had the reputation of jyp along with his industry connections. Would twice be as big if they weren’t from jyp? Idk maybe, interesting to think about.

@Ilyfb_96 3 года назад

So big 3 privilege only exists for groups who became popular right when they debuted ? 😑 y’all really be picking and choosing

@CutleryWonder Год назад

Imagine if Dreamcatcher had SM or JYP behind them... But then again, their company treats them well so let's not.

@seggsymama 3 года назад

The queen has spoken

@cinnie_0193 2 года назад

I just recently found your channel and I love your honesty and the way you explain your points! About the comedian and his nephew at the mall part, by chance is the comedian K-von?

@rachelwanda2797 3 года назад

okay, if we forget for a moment that you are spitting facts... sis, your taste in movie references is chef's kiss ;)

@ShootingStarStudio 8 месяцев назад

To the people trying to make arguments about why Big 3 privilege doesn’t exist, I’d like to see them make arguments for how pretty privilege doesn’t exist.

@aashidesai7796 2 года назад

tbh is aespa debuted under a smaller company with same concept they would have been less successful

@lovsyizhuo 2 года назад

I would be surprised if a small company debuted group with that much budget,i would definitely stan

@gourisudheer2794 3 года назад

😇😌killed it again

@sunshinbel8132 3 года назад

I LOVE this. Could you cover Hyunjin? Like in a whole video?

@rere9991 2 года назад

If you're in Sm you can't write shit? That's simply false a ton of idols under Sm write & sm sends them to their notorious writing camps with huge korean & international producers. The difference is Sm has an anonymous system so everyone has to send their work without a name and the best is picked to be released. So basically these idols compete against professional producers and Sm picks whatever they deem top notch. Examples of these idols (Jonghhyun, Taeyong, Ten, Kun, XiaoJun, Seulgi, Yeri, Mark, Amber, Luna, Tiffany, Seohyun, Yuri, Sooyoung, etc..) Also Tiffany had creative freedom about TTS's visual department styling/set designs etc.. Yuri is leading the creative direction of Snsd's new unit and so much more. Sm gives a lot more creative freedom than people think unfortunately the Idols are dealt a bad hand when are put against these professional international producers so most of the time you don't see their work until later on. The other points I kind of agree though. Enjoyed the video none the less and you always present them in a logical way :D

@kamyaverse 3 года назад

"look at the way jype handled the entire situation with hyunjin" why must you hurt me this way,/j but like in all seriousness jype fucked up hyunjin's entire reputation because they did not defend him and instead literally said that they will pick better trainess in the future as if hyunjin did not bring jype lots of money. edit-Another big 3 disadvantage is that people put down your hard work just because you are from the big 3.For example,just because stray kids come from jype does not invalidate the fact that they struggled to get were they are right now,it does not invalidate that they self produce their entire discography,just because they are from the big 3 does not mean STAYS VOTING AND MAKING SURE THE BOYS WIN KINGDOM IS JYPE'S WORK.How tf does that even make sense.Yes,stray kids come from a bigger company,yes they did have more hype than your favs but that does not mean that the boys don't work their ass off to put out such good songs.

@sage.81 9 месяцев назад

When comparing the views of Bon Bon Chocolat and Dalla Dalla, you accidentally said Itzy came from YG

@Coni354 3 года назад

more that the most talented Idol I've more the feeling that Big3 search to have the more redeemable idol. like they search for people who can make them earn as much money as possible and this can by dance/rap/sing/visual/talkative/be good at reality show etc...

@Coni354 3 года назад

For the Mv budget I think is not really the same is more accurate if you compare mv in the same year like the budget of i got a boy, gentlemen and no more dream, because between 2013 and 2016 Korea give huge amount of money for the development of KPOP in the world so i suppose the big3 receive maybe more money than the other (hypothetically) and then compare black pink debut with cosmic girl, astro, sf9, momoland, pentagon debut.

@Coni354 3 года назад

something else with the Big3 they can gave better songwriter / producer / arranger than the others but it's always the same thing if you have more money than other then you can have better anything than the other.

@ceecee8090 3 года назад

Blinks get so sensitive when people say Blackpink has big three and pretty privilege and I don't get. Like it's not a bad thing.

@lilbloomingdaisy9643 2 года назад

Okay so everyone has pretty privilege? Even if they did have pretty privilege, that wouldn't get them far at all simply because the GP loved their songs since debut, also there's a reason why K-netizens critique multiple YG artists for being 'ugly'

@ceecee8090 2 года назад

@@lilbloomingdaisy9643 You can't deny the fact that the company they debuted with definitely gave them an edge. Didn't YG call them the prettier version 2NE1?

@jisoosupcomingsolo5815 2 года назад

@@lilbloomingdaisy9643 these people will do anything to deny the natural charisma talent and appeal the girls have so dont waste your time arguing

@blaqgirlssss 3 года назад

It's there lol, I still don't know how people can say it's not there with their chests

@KdramaTeen2705 Год назад

i am glad u wrote phone was vibrating💀💀💀

@kris_pang 2 года назад

I think the ability to work hard aka character (preseverence, tenacity, and diligence to survive in training period) is a talent. These traits/characters are talents IMO. So no, no idol is untalented.

@ciringkwasit3729 2 года назад

Mere mention of Monsta X makes me happy...

@moonlightn922 3 года назад

Do you know Laboum? They are so talented, but they come from a poor small company so they don't get promoted much 😢

@confuseme2727 2 года назад

Valid pointssss!!!!

@allanahtinnie3419 3 года назад

THANK YOU for speaking the truth girl. Especially about gender privilege. Women should face the consequences for their actions just as much as Men, no matter their gender.

@ilovesummer9750 3 года назад

Lol 😂 I wouldn’t really say that big 3 have higher standards because if I’m not wrong sm didn’t accept soyeon and we all know that she is a all rounder

@roxannelovegood1386 3 года назад

Pls sm is basically running after soyeon right know after the gidle succes. You could say THAT they are treating her even better than most of THEIR idols right know. ALL the Collaborations she did with girl from snsd ( sorry i cannot write her name properly) but she is one of the best dancers in kpop, guy from shinee,selugi, chungha AND MANY MORE. besides I beleive soyeon audition from A LOT OF companies and she was accepted I heard. Cuz she wanted to have CREATIVE FREEDOM which we know that The big 3 are not allowing THEIR idols to have

@rowanjoy419 2 года назад

It's totally true, the privilege exist, I remember watching a korean tv show, and in the back were publicity of Itzy. (i love itzy) like they just debut but their faces were anywhere in korea. I'm not saying that they don't deserve it. but one of my fav group "x" have 4 years since debut and for their comeback, korean fans buy RU-vid ads for them, cuz the company didn't.

@internationalrelations4973 2 года назад

I read some comments disagreeing with EGU about Big 3 debuting some "untalented idols." I think what Kpop fans don't understand is that being untalented is NOT a bad thing. At least in my opinion. Talent, from what I understand, is when it's easier for you to learn or do something compared to people who don't have talent in that field. I will use my girl, Lisa, for example. She is TALENTED in dancing. It's easy for her to learn new techniques and choreographies. She can utilize her dancing ability to be much better than people who aren't talented in dancing. If Lisa and Jisoo (my ultimate bias) both had learned dancing from childhood, Lisa would've definitely still been better than Jisoo because she is gifted with dancing talent. That doesn't mean Jisoo can't dance though. She can dance, but if she wants to be on par with people who have talent in dancing, she must work harder than them because it's simply not her forte. Lisa is NOT TALENTED in singing. Rosé is. I believe that even if both of them had learned vocal lessons in early age, Rosé would've still been the better vocalist than Lisa. Even if Lisa were to focus more on singing rather than rapping, she wouldn't hit the same level of people who have talent in singing who work as hard as her. And if she doesn't focus on it, like her current condition, she will be mediocre at best at singing. What I want to say is, not all idols debuted are talented. Most of them are mediocre or have decent skills at best, while only some of them are naturally talented. And even if they aren't, they still can improve themselves by working hard. The factors that affect the company's decision to debut idols are not based on talent alone, but also visual and if the trainees fit the concept they want to introduce. Kpop groups are products after all. So if we want to speak objectively, yes, idols who are not talented do exist and I don't know why people get triggered so much when I don't see it as negative. I'm talented in drawing but suck in cooking. I acknowledge that, so I work harder in learning how to cook. But I won't deny it if people say I'm untalented in this field. And not all talented idols would be successful too. Talent is not everything, luck, hard work, and privileges do play in an idol's career.

@izonexbae 2 года назад

I would wanna say that winning doesn’t solely come from charting especially nowadays.

@juju3274 3 года назад

Mamamoo is one of the most all rounded, best vocally, most credited in writing, rapping, and dancing/performance as well as creativity, they're active with their fans constantly as well too. Yet they are from a small company like RBW that honestly would be nothing without mamamoo. Mamamoo being the 4th highest charting 3rd gen group behind rv, tw, and bp all from the big3. Groups like mamamoo, bts, monsta x, etc are proof that big3 privilege exists. Groups that aren't from the big3 didn't debut with already growing fanbases, clout, higher budgets in mvs and performances. And most non big3 idols come in with raw talent since smaller companies can't afford high-quality trainers. Also, idk why people take it as such an insult. No one said big3 groups don't work hard. They are just privileged. Its like some stans act like a company being wealthy, better trainers, more popular previous groups, better budgeting, higher charting groups is all a bad thing..when its not. Stop acting like all that is such a bad thing and stop denying the fact that big3 companies are clearly gonna have higher advantages with their groups over companies like RBW. And big3 groups do have more untalented or "useless" idols in their groups than ones that aren't from the big3. Why? Because other companies NEED the most talented they can find so they can try and chart higher and get more popular. The big3 companies don't have to try. Lastly, some big3 stans sadly you can tell if they stan them either completely for a group's popularity or mostly because of popularity rather than their talents. Meaning if you a fandom in a fanwar, they'll be bragging more about charts and numbers than actual talent or talent achievements or mentions from other artists. Those stans also won't watch many variety shows or stream heavily because they stan them mostly because they are popular.

@sfz4746 3 года назад

I dont think redvelvet is one of the groups like that. The artists in redvelvet like wendy,seulgi,yeri and joy were recruited based on their raw talents. Seulgi and yeri were able to pass the Saturday audition which is one of the hardest sm auditions. Wendy was already talented and trained just for 2 years. Joy was initially recruited and had shortest training period but still was able to sing better without proper training. It was wendy and seulgi who had more time to get vocal lessons from good coaches but the other three were still able to carry on with their own talents. Neither of them practically got trained in rapping but still they are able to deliver average kind of raps. When the girls debuted they had to face criticism right away. They were criticized by fandoms from f(x) and and for not being like girl generation or f(x). When their albums got released many critics picked them just because of their vocals just like mamamoo. There is a reason why many smaller artsits look upto redvelvet not for their ppopularity but for their talents and music. Now as for their privileges redvelvet is one of the groups who was supported definitely by their senior groups but when it comes to their popularity it is completely based on their talents. They dont have amazing album sales like their senior groups and sm doesnt even restock their albums though sm is one of the biggest companies. Their umpah umpah mv is one of the worst things a company can do for their group. Their awards or music show wins were completely based on their own talents. Though redflavor was one of the biggest hits of kpop it has the smallest budget but it was definitely a big hit because of the song the girls were able to deliver. After mamamoo redvelvet is one the most talented groups out there and whatever they have right now is completely based on their talents. They did chart well on the charts and so did mamamoo. There are times when mamamoo charted even better than them. Though MMM came from one of the smallest company they were able to release solo songs but this is the first time that a redvelvet member was able to do solo comeback. Even yeri had to request multiple times to release a song in sm station n even had to do all the work from composing to making of the mv. What I want to say is there are groups from big 3 who may have support but they dont always get it compared to even smaller groups(from smaller companies). Some of the groups from big3 are RV, ikon, got7.

@NukeNukedEarth 2 года назад

If oneus were from the big 3 theyd be so much more popular right now

@louchan4530 3 года назад

There are 6500 languages on the world and you decided to speak straight facts.

@ryeofoatmeal 2 года назад

'they are too big to care' LITERALLY 😭😭 big companies have too many groups to handle and they can't have eyes on everyone. the big company just has easy access to marketing, music shows, views etc etc. and yes some idols are not very talented but only there bcos they have looks....

@KdramaTeen2705 Год назад

having talent is not equal to success. Hard work is the key, every big 3 idol may not be naturally talented yall want them to be, but they work hard as much as other idols. There is no doubt big 3 privilage exists, but the suffering is more too, the negetive energy around u gets increased. Like u get a lot of attention for your debut, you get criticized more, u get hated more, being in big 3 is financially amazing but the other negetive things are there too. And there has to be some criteria which is diferent from smaller companies in selecting idols, there has to be. I can't convince myself that u have to do the same amount of hard work for both type of companies. Maybe its the luck, or visuals. and i don't know about other companies but i do know that yg's trainers are fcking rude and strict. In my opinion surviving in these industries is a bigger task then getting into them. Blackpink was set to debut as a 9 member group but all the other 5 left the company bcuz of delay and hard training. treasure started getting hate from the starting of their career, and they are still not that successful. Objectively speaking big 3 debut can never flop but maintaining that attention is the thing. Like after two or three cbs if u dont make good music people start hating on you. And now that kpop is getting famous globally if people don't like big 3 groups they have much more options.

@telisaluther6602 3 года назад

Fanmu isn't known for their handling of the few idol groups and soloists well. Astro their boy group and Weki Meki their girl group. Astro has 10 days until their cb and all concept videos so far has been released on fanmu's RU-vid channel instead of ASTRO's official RU-vid channel where they have nearly 4million followers. I'm hoping this cb is going to be successful and they gain more fans this era.

@awaywiththefaeries9464 2 года назад

A quick counter argument for the ‘if you’re from sm you can’t right shit’ - Minho, Onew, Jonghyun, Chen, Chanyeol, Lay, Boa.

@ritikamandal2121 3 года назад

Maximum of the YG groups write /compose their own songs....

@newjeansfan238 2 года назад

That is the injustice and the privilege of big 3 or 4, their debut group will be more waiting even if they didn't release teaser, they can be called genius for doing just too experimental music like Aespa - Next level, Nmixx - O.O and people will talk about it, called them genius or bad buzz but they get the attention that medium/small companies didn't have when they lauched their debut group

@boogiebear3095 2 года назад

I still miss 2NE1, and I’ve been a fan of blackpink since debut. Fell down the K-pop rabbit hole back in 2016 or so

@luaklein8068 2 года назад

Filler members are part of a formula. There has to be an ordinary person like SJ's chinese member. I remember he talked about it in a show. I don't remember the explanation but someone has to be relateable or ordinary?

@angel93229 2 года назад

When i watch video like this i always think about Dreamcatcher, Oneus and Mamamoo..they literally scream TALENT but have not the success that they deserve (even if actually mamamoo is a big group)

@jade-di9yo 2 года назад

I mean if big 3 privilege wasn’t a thing then I wonder why everyone wants to get into one of those companies cuz they are not known to manage their artists ,however ,they have the money and visibility which makes it easier to blow up. In this industry, hard work does not guarantee recognition , that’s unfair but that is how it works. In my opinion

@quanganhle6148 2 года назад

You speak my mind!!!!!! You fucking speak my mind!!!!

@22mae 2 года назад

The best example is enhypen from hybe. Their vocals suck, no stage presence and charisma but because their seniors are bts they get the clout.

@ryeofoatmeal 2 года назад

i already knew about this but yeah... people ain't ready for the truth

@dzuhhh 2 года назад

Even being a trainee under big three is considered "advantageous" and the trainees are perceived as more talented and better. Just watch produce series and gp999. The hype of big3 is evident. Honestly, i got into kpop knowing the first big 3 groups, with bts. Big 3 is a gateway for a groups, artist that is automatically seen as havibg great music etc. I think i wouldn't Stan most big3 groups if they're not part of it. But the hype, privilege and exposure makes me want to stan groups under it. Sure success is comibg along the way just by debuting under big4.

@reisgrimery3372 2 года назад

But tbh, Twice didn't have the big three privilege, they had to perform in university classrooms, worked in fast-food restaurants to promote for cheer up, sent fliers themselves to promote for sixteen. Twice never had big three privilege but kpop stans are too afraid to admit it for no reason. LIke they and 300 (around that) album sales when they debuted, in the first WEEK!

@mariakiwi1428 2 года назад

What? They had 40.000 sales in 10 days after debut. The reaction was considered luke warm considering just how big jyp is and how popular sixteen was but not at all small.

@mariakiwi1428 2 года назад

I actually was mistaken with the number by the end of October, that was one for its first 2 months or so, while it’s first ten days reached 17.000 copies

@shaziamumtaz8414 2 года назад

Literally bp also performed at colleges doesn't make these they don't have big 3 privileged they were in survival show they already had an audience