@@Averagechannelhandlethat's literally what makes it a dick move. He threw competitive integrity out the window by hiding it and using to get free money.
@@vPyraa Not broke but think about it if the price is already that shit, why would you give anyone an advantage by telling them about a glitch you discovered by yourself? Just take the free money and move on, it's not like anyone will hold it against you for $25... Well unless you're these guys 😅
If i found a game breaking (in a good way) glitch in any game i played, i would ABSOLUTELT keep it a secret. Not only does it reduce the chance of being patched, it means others cant use what i found myself
@@PegsVAcoffin fortnite is a fun battle royale game, undertale is an amazing storytelling game, league of legends is a competitive moba game. Roblox is a creative sandbox game. Fans are the problem.
sooo...cheating? LMAO. Exploting is literally cheating wdym There's a difference between finding a game breaking bug and reporting it/just not really caring that much, and actively using it to gain an unfair upper hand over other players, literally the definition of exploiting and cheating 😭
@@boolin4099That's the definition of EXPLOITING. If someone in boxing exploits their opponents weaknesses, is that also considered cheating? Their exploiting something, so according to your logic, it should. Cheating is actively giving yourself and unfair advantage through nefarious means. Exploiting an existing, but unknown technique is NOT cheating.
@@JeezAlaxThere’s a problem with that logic though: one pertains to a weakness in others, and the other pertains to a weakness in the game itself. If you were beating your opponent by exploiting, say, you know they commonly dodged to the left on knockdown, then that’d be fair, because it’s something that’s applicable for everyone in every scenario; reading your opponent is a natural strategy in gaming. Here, he exploited a weakness in the game itself. An unintentional design flaw that gives you an unfair advantage. That’s cheating. If it were a natural PAC-Man technique (and PAC-Man players are capable of many things), then it’d be fine. But pac-man shouldn’t have been able to do that by the intentions of the game. It’s a glitch, It’s abuse of a glitch, that’s commonly considered cheating. Hiding it was just a dick move tho lol
I remember he showed me how this worked before he bought it out, and then after the tournament, I explained how to activate it and then he said that he wanted to strangle me on the MG server afterwards. Good times
Wow, what an asshole. This is why I like modern fighting game metas. Everyone knows all the bullshit so nobody has a real reason to gatekeep like Kyoz did.
@@lamnguyenhuubao513 Basically you needed to catch a key, z drop it onto a trampoline and then recatch the key at the same moment that it landed on the red trampoline
@@tmbpotatoe5975just bc you didn't see one doesn't mean they don't exist and you do know that some people take advantage of nice people so always being nice can be an disadvantage bc they might think your an easy target.dont know why i wrote this as if anyone would care.
@@randomnobody28 dude that's a pretty bad mindset, you placed the "just bc you didn't see one doesn't mean they don't exist" into an extreme, i didn't say anything about "nice people aren't taken advantage of" but you still saw that, also please get some help thinking no one would care about the things you do is a horrible mindset people do care and they'll be there for you, also my comment was questioning why they were talking about nice people being at a disadvantage even though it has nothing to do with the vedio.
Feels like cheating to hide something that's that busted and clearly not intentional, but doesn't look like it was that big of a prize pool so I wouldn't say its that big a deal.
@@demisagoatsaving tech for nationals aint cheating, happins in traditional fighters too, so much so that we all agree its fine and should be done to not get your character nerfed untill after an event
If it looks like cheating and feels like cheating, it's cheating. That said, hilarious that he did all of that to not even win grand finals and get 15 dollars
"Is it cheating?" Well he literally held information about a glitch that can make pacman invincible during a tournament just to win so the answer speaks for itself
@@ValidTno i think cheating in a game is literally making ot unfair or impossible to beat you in a game using mofs or hacks this is just absuing a bug
I mean it’s named after Ness’s glitch being the thunder jacket but the difference between the two is that Ness only gets one use of his while Pac-Man gets to keep it forever. Ness is also a rare pick due to being easily counterable and having horrible recovery options on top of his jacket being much harder to set up. Pac-Man is a high B tier in SSF2 and completely changes the course of the match with this glitch, so no question here it deserved to be banned.
Hiding a glitch that you know would get banned just so you can use it in a tournament is definitely cheating bro. Dude really needed that invincibility handicap and still lost
It's only cheating if a generates an unfair advantage. Every single person could have done the exact same thing as the pac man player, but they werent knowledgeable enough to do it.
@@zhangbill1194so you're saying that because they didn't play a specific character, execute an even more specific chain of actions, intentionally hide it and use it, they're "Not Knowledgeable"??? That's literally cheating
@@zhangbill1194it’s not intended to be like a secret “ooh hidden technique if you practiced you’d eventually find out about!” It’s “the developers forgot to fix this, I’m not going to tell anyone so I can abuse it later.”
He didn't break any rules, he found a weakness and used to his benefit. Had he deliberately altered the games code so that only he could win, that would be cheating but he didn't, he found something that was built into the game by the developers which gave him his benefits.
In my opinion: Yes that would definitely be cheating. You aren't meant to keep the item, let alone WEAR IT and become basically invincible. Hiding it from everyone makes it that much worse.
I wouldn't say hiding it makes anything worse it just gives him an advantage and you could say that about ANYTHING that other people wouldnt know how to do.
@@hobosorcerer"glitches are almost universally prohibited" does bro not realize that the majority of tech in smash games in general are glitches like this guy did a dick move but also. wut
