The Biggest Russian BULLY at 8.3 - Object 435 - War Thunder 

yes same is with PT-76 its from 1950s end its in 5.3BR in game ( but etlest hi has HEATFS (end china variant is 5.0BR))

it is criminally under tiered, should be around 9.7 to 10.3

it's literally the reason they removed Maus

@@thekangster0_032 9.7 is too high, 9.3 for the TT one and 9.0 for the FPS.

It's why wot is more balanced, despite all the fake tanks and premium rounds, the hit points allow you to "tank" more mistakes, take more chances. Not to mention the game decided to stuck to ww2- early cold war without sabots and missiles with fake or paper tanks. War thunder should add a rank system based on eras, make it 2-3 years for tiers 1&2 and make it 10 years for everything else, (1945 to 1955 tank designs for example)(a bt-5 is just 5 years apart from a panther, but a is-3 from 1945 can still fight a 1955 tank)

they would probably make it a new tank and not change the current one

Wish they’d do something for the T-10M too.

Is that a separate upgrade from the T62M-1 in game?

@@MaplePanda04 the M-1 is a 1980's upgrade package, I'm just suggesting updating the model to an early 70's upgrade that redesigned the turret and added an AA machine gun

that would be quite logical, since the version of t55a we have in game is either 1970 or 1972 production model. Getting tank literally older then the curent one isnt as logical

You complain about it's BR being too low. I complain about the lack of lineup. Big 3 nation can just spam multiple vehicles and CAS

@@hubris6567sounds like a skill issue if u can’t get a easy 9 kills with it😂

@@hubris6567 because the lack of lineup affects one nation, it being blatantly op affects 9

​@@hubris6567between 8.0 and 10.3 US doesn't get a single competitive lineup(excluding premiums). Closest thing is 9.3 with 4 non meta garbage MBTs no light tank and powercrept AA.

Something a lot of people get wrong is that this isn’t quite a T-64 prototype, nor is it a T-62 prototype as the Dev blog suggests. It was a test bed for the gun that would eventually be mounted on the T-62. The suspension system appears to be an early version of what would eventually be put on the T-64

@@thatcarguydom266 It's been six months, but I'm gonna answer this. It's not quite as you say. The 435 was a significant improvement of the characteristics of the Object 430, which was an early prototype of the T-64. Object 432 (T-64) was already developed on the basis of 435.

Doesn't the M1128 have manless turret? That's far better and I'd take that over the typ16

@@petrkdn8224 quite unresponsive compared to other wheelie boi, i think it's just type 16 fps (and to certain degree, roikat mttd and wma) is too low in br

@rxzxqx6982 speed isn't everything though

@@rxzxqx6982 doesn't the type 16fps have 100kmh max speed? Both rooikats have 120, so they are faster . I have both rooikats and outspeed every other tank on road

@@petrkdn8224 speed will be everything if your enemies is early coldwar era tanks that some of them not have laser rangefinder, let alone high quality thermal, they can't see from where they get shot

Ka-50 without thermals is somehow OP, Tiger heli with self guiding missiles aren't. People are mad.

Its because of the amount of tanks russia has at top tier along with thier absolutely broken damage models, also they have the best spaa in the entire game and the ka50 is a premium that anyone can get immediately and its ability to spam missiles is cancerous as fuck, and its survivability is pretty bullshit to

@@sharkk127 That's the thing, I'm US main who has Ka-50 and at the top tier BRs there are just better helis with thermals. Without thermals you can't find targets half the time because of bad visibility (fog, clouds, darkness). Ka-50 can fly without tail irl, but in the game the moment you lose you the tail it's automatic J-out. Missiles spam isn't a thing, because helis with Hellfires have more missiles and can launch any amount at any time at greater angles. Now after the Vikhr nerf they Ka-50s can only launch a few at a time and then have to wait until they land before launching next ones, and the angle of launch is very small. As for tanks: T-72s can't drive back, like 4kmh reverse speed vs 36khp on Abrams. Add to it terrible thermals or complete lack of them (T-80UM2). Gun handling is terrible, the gun traverse/elevation is sluggish which makes snap-shooting upclose very hard. Armor is good, sure, better than on Abrams, but not better than Leo2s. Also Leo2s have better mobility, better guns, better thermals than T-80s as well. There are more Leo2s in the German tech tree than 11.0+ tanks in the USSR tree. Same for US with their endless Abrams spam. Sometimes you hit Russian tanks' shells and they don't explode, but that's literally a problem on all tanks, and has to do with the fact that people take less shells into battle but the shell-cam shows all shells. So when it shows a shell going black but not exploding, there's actually no shell there at all. So it's a game bug, not a tank being OP or something.

@@harryshuman9637 Those missiles are unreliable af --- same with the spikes/Qn506 missile. You need a full view of their tank to even shoot the missile. The PARS missile can be defeated by going near a dead burning tank which it will go to 90% of the time. Also even a simple bush will stop the lock on the missile. The ka50/52/28 variants have proxy missiles and easier to use missiles were you can aim. It makes them automatically better than the FnF unreliable mess that is those missiles.

@@harryshuman9637 I will say the hellfires are pretty good now even after the missile changes, but I'd still take a Vikhr any day for its versatility. Btw the whole BR system doesn't matter as T-80U/Uk and T-72B3 can be considered 11.7 vehicles with how they perform. Also Sweden has way better Leopard 2s than the Germans considering they have an armored hull and a Leo 2a6 themselves. I agree on the whole explosion thing as it has a chance to blow up depending on HP damage and its made more apparent that ALL FUEL TANKS without a plate behind it will mitigate spalling a lot. Even shooting some Arietes have a chance to cause a "blow out panel" explosion or just blacking out ammo which makes absolutely 0 sense. Same thing with fuel tanks being eaten on tanks like the sides Leopards, Leclercs front and many other vehicles with fuel tanks.

Bruh i have a complete 8.3 russia lineup and the t10m is fucking amazing, it honestly feels like an mbt at times

@@sharkk127 T-10M is my 1st 8.3 for Russia and i wasn't sure if it would do well. but after a few games in it and that wonderful APHE round it gets. It's disgusting. and i love it.

Zsu 37-2 is absolute hot trash just skip it if you have enough sl

I play a lot of 7.3 germany i dont get mutch full uptiers to 8.3, but when i do i just use the wiesel and be a absolut rat

lmao. im at 7.7 france having a nice time, only because it seems like most of the russia/china players at 8.3 are awful players. it's a 50/50 whether you'll stomp or they'll stomp, with hardly any inbetween...

@@shronkler1994 those nations from 8.0 to 10.0 are absolutely horrendous to play with.

The APFSDS is very potent, but the missile suffers from classic HEAT and ATGM problems, too slow, hard to control, poor post pen damage. That said 3BM25 is very strong

False the object 435 is shorter and smaller than the t62

@@1-Oriana-1short and smaller doesn’t take away the fact it might be a better t62

Works for me, I never use CAS anyway, as if using 8.3 Russia in the first place wasn’t scummy enough 😂

su9 or su11 is very good for cas role, or start working on helicopters

Yeah, historical is BS. If it were to be implemented, the M60 AOS could face T-80B and the Americans couldn't have any other better tank to face it. And Germans would have had Leopard A1A1 at best. Good luck with punching through T-80B lol

4x poland craft added in game

It's alright.. Not terrible, not great. No high tier premiums which is nice I think

I was thinking of getting the french heavy (souma or something) but it’s 7.3 so…

@@ImminentFallout that is my fear.

@@urittiru3601 Still an awesome tank, but as said before your going to meet the T-55AM1. Though from me playing French last patch at 7.3, I only saw it probably 4/10 games which is still high.

the trick is to uptier it into premiumville with turmst then u face low level noobs around 10.0 and it easy pickings.

Huh? Aim better lol

Nearly 9 years of WT and im at that much, when many are nearing a billion o.o

I agree, 3BM25 post pen is a joke.

Its 8.7 now but it still packs a punch

+10 social credit

t 62?

Great idea! Should also move the KPZ/MBT-70 down to 8.3 and Leopard 1 to 6.3 while we're at it!

@@curtsauce3947 than gajin should remove all the 92358293 nerfs put on russian tanks in 7.3 and 7.7 like ffs anything can pen a russian tank there plus constant uptier to 8.3 game makes no sense to play i mean lets be real a nation with most advanced tanks since ww2 and they nerf every aspect of every tank in 7.3-7.7 gajin is being dumb

@@flareamv5503ur actually dumb like wow

No.

It's a video game. Go be soft elsewhere.

@@tm1182he’s trolling bro. Just ignore him.

What? That doesn't make sense, on the contrary, it supports democratic values as he can choose what he wants on the tank. Do you also suggest people not to play the Abrams because it was used in Iraq where millions of civilian houses were bombed illegally? Just because Russians doing js wrong doesn't excuse the other side.

@@JustinPlaysTV lol

youre acting like he knows

It's a video game, and historical. It in no way endorses anything. If historical symbols are too much for you then maybe watch content about a different fictional game.

I'm czech and I don't care. It's historical. That's why I play the fucking game. Go play WoT if you hate history and want to butcher it. Edit: coincidentally, I also watched a new movie about 1968 (Man who stood on the way) , released May , which is a month ago. It was about the events of 1968 and the Soviet+soviet allies invasion of Czechoslovakia. It portrayed the events well, and shown the horror of soviets (torture, killing civilians and censorship) yet I have no problem with this in game. Because it's history. It must be preserved

Oh my goodness, get over yourself. Not everything is about your precious feelings. It’s a game.