The Bird's The Word In Vintage Cube 

Goes straight into the quote book. "Ponder is like an imperial seal that doesn't suck" ~ LSV, 2024

This makes perfect sense to me.

EXACTLY it's like Imperial Seal but you don't pay 2 life and you get the card right away. No other differences

Came here to say exactly this

I once got to live the Nadu, lightning greaves, springheart nantuko dream in a cube run the other day lol.

Do not pity the beast! ;D

BOOOO, go back in the archives, old man.

There’s older vcube draft stuff already out there. What makes vcube the best format is it’s so dynamic with all the amazing new powerful stuff that WOTC keeps printing. Case in point was today’s draft with Nadu and Bristly Bill.

@@timjp7459 Sure, but seeing LSV & friends jump into an old list from say 2017 for a few games isn't at all the same as just watching old videos. You say you like Vintage Cube for how dynamic it is with the constant changes-I'd argue that viewing an old list through modern eyes would give much the same feel. Oh and that's not to mention the pure nostalgia of a time where Consecrated Sphinx was an absolute bomb and taken highly lol. Seems most viewers agree with my suggestion given the likes ratio, hopefully it will happen one of these days!

@@brandonbagley795 2017 would be cool too. When you said a few years, I thought you meant like 3 years…

With over 50000 cards there must be many other Cube draft more interesting and fun that watching the same every time

Tinker doesn't take it either...

Tinker doesn't take it either...

Yeah, it's cutable.

Green is the funnest color

😂​@@cowgirlqueen2636

Cant teach an old dog new tricks

A LOT of people would have gone W/R in that seat though, especially in a 6 man draft when it's harder to get all the pieces you need for combos. I guess he could have gone lands with pick 2 Strip Mine and pick 3 Crucible, but there's still no guarantee the Exploration/Fastbond show up in the draft, let alone make it to you.

It's easier to play Aggro when you play mtgo the way he does.... And he just really likes white Aggro

I wonder if he keeps Comet out of this iteration because of Sandy, haha

Yeah I think if everyone were solely trying to max team win%, you’d see him getting hard cut most drafts. Fortunately the vibe of this group is I Wanna Do Fun Stuff, so it’s not the end of the world that his range is narrow

perhaps not everyone was as tuned into what has been added to the cube to make nadu so good. I mean I'm sure they know the cube list, but if this is the first time running this iteration and things like lightning greaves and bristly bill were just added, that makes quite a difference.

Lightning greavers is an exception to being able to re-equip on the same creature, since shroud stops it being targeted...

@@rij9889 Ahhhh, damn! Never question a pro 🙈

I came back to the game after 10 years recently. I totally relate.

@@TempoBear I reconnected with my cube group a couple weeks ago, and I had to leave Jace out of my deck bc he couldnt compete at 4 mana with what I had. It's gonna take some getting used to!

⁠@@Mitch_Feralhaha totally, if you told me that 8 years ago I wouldn’t have believed you

He actually says it 10 secondes later…

You just need to watch the video to understand. But TLDR, you don't flash with the intention of paying for the creature. You flash so you can pay 2 mana for very powerful etb and/or death triggers. It doesn't matter if Torsten doesn't stick around when he just drew you 5 cards and made 7 1/1s at instant speed for 2 mana.

Rj mentioned the main use. Think of it more like a Reanimate or Scam elementals. You cheat something in, and only after it's in play does it ask you to pay. So you simply decline but it's already out so your etb or death trigger kicks in. I'm pretty sure I've never seen any Cube vid where Flash has ever paid full mana for the creature.

Yeah in my mind it read like Mission Briefing! My bad! Thanks!