This guy knows nothing of what he speeaks about. He has not done enough research on the subject matter. I advise him to do much more and unbiased reading in order not to sound lenient to either political party. I lived it and I lived through it.
When you look at the leadership history of Black-majority Caribbean countries, you start to see why Jamaica is one of the poorest. The richest and most successful Black Caribbean countries, like the Bahamas, Barbados, Antigua, Saint Kitts, etc., all have one thing in common: They have a long history of Black leadership; even before some of them gained independence, they were under the leadership of Black people. Jamaica, on the other hand, was mostly under the leadership of non-black people, even after the country gained independence. These non-black people made themselves rich and powerful while discriminating against the Black majority. And because most Black Jamaicans are ignorant and foolish, they keep voting for people who look nothing like them, as if they have ever seen a white man working in the interest of a Black man.
Rasta consciousness was the target. Drugs and guns was given to the youths to mess up their heads . What took place in the 80s was deliberate . Go look over may pen cemetery many of those fools from down town are there . Where are the Big Heavy Dons now
Yep that was traumatizing especially in 1978 when outside forces locked down the country 😡 … and think how both political party started as a labor union which somehow through social engineering got split into political factions 🤨 11:55 yep exactly I definitely remember that shelves ‘miraculously’ full to the brim 🧐🏴🏴🇯🇲
My mum foresaw the political violence that occurred just a few years after she left the island. She told me that Jamaicans began to wear colors according to their political affiliation and that it was dangerous to be caught wearing the color of the opposition in the wrong neighborhood. Seems the guns were initially smuggled into the island to arm each side, and now gun smuggling is out of control and is being used in all sorts of crime. Thanks Alexx for presenting the full picture of what was happening at that time in Jamaica.
In 1688, the bill of rights created two legal fictions, parliament the building and parliament assemble which are the elected MP’s. Government only exists on paper. They have no money. Government get its money by imposing tax after tax. Everyone is equal under the law and no one is above the law. Parliament assembled are the elected MPs. MPs don’t have no other rights above the people who elected them. MPs pass legislation. Legislation need the consent of the people to be law. MPs are not above the law. All men and women working as MPs are equal under the law the same as the people. MPs are not given superior previledges to make them above the law. Consent is needed to make law. This goes for the police using brute force to enact legislation. Police are not above the law. They do not have superior rights over the people unless a crime has been committed under common law and there is a victim. So saying this, anyone including police using legislation in the public domain, do not have the right to assert that obligation using legislation without the consent of the people to make it law. The bill of rights 1688 ‘Nothing can be done to the prejudice of the people’. Sovereign Postulates states the law must be universally accepted and there must be a victim. Legislation is not law. They are acts, codes and statutes. Superior statutes is the constitution. Legislation made without the consent of the people are inferior statutes and only give privileges to certain people making legislation unjust and bias. Politicians and their friends robbing Jamaica and pocketing the money. Jamaica does not have a valid government but a government run by an invalid group of parasites masquerading as government. The government is not a public body, but a private limited company trading as a business.
And its never been the same since! War, crime, corruption by police, judges and the state. Dog ate dogs, people migrated, business closed down and food shortage was wide spread. What we are seeing down is an extention of that period from which we have never recovered.
That was when I decided never to vote in Jamaica again as from what I saw both party was corrupt and insight violence. It was a terrible time in politics in Jamaica.
The Blind one came with violence to wrestle control . That's why he was rejected by the Jamaican people. He brought never seen evul and fisyruction to these shores . He use to boast about his army from down town . The Blood of these youths that died in the streets for nothing at all .......the tears of the mothers crying for their children will not go unnoticed.....these politician dirty will be soon revealed . How they used the youths and Dons of Jamaica will be revealed too . Their families will hang their heads in shame . Dons did not have no external power ........ The truth is most Dons are puppets . They took away the don but left the guns all over down town with youths that can hardly read nor write . Why are all these killings surprising to anyone ? . Cocaine users are all over the inner city ......with access to guns . Politricks smh
Like the video and I think your video shows just how young a country we are and how far we've come. Comments like "Jamaica is on the brink of collapse" I can do without. In a fact filled video resist the urge to utter baseless statements like that. Appreciate the content and I've learned a lot from your videos. Walk good!
1980 was a time that I would not like to be repeated in Jamaica! It was really bloody! There were prophesies of murders uttered right there in the Denham Town area which were fulfilled shortly after. Thanks be to God for the people of God who spent time in 40 days of prayer and fasting. We made it through the grace of Almighty God! Pray those days will never return IJN!!!
You are not mentioning the CIA and their role I knew of CIA from I was a baby boy living in Jamaica and it wasn't until I came to America and learned about them I realized there was a reason I kept on hearing about them
Bigger picture. Jcans allowed the rivalry between the United States and Russia (USSR) to violently divide us. And after they had their way both of them just cast us aside to sort out the aftermath
Jamaican film and scrip writers need to make a film about this. The world needs to see how geopolitics work when you’re close in proximity to a super power.
I was living in Portmore at the time (1980 election). It was a very violent season in Jamaica's (party political) history. A man was shot and killed very near to my house.
Brethren really liked the video It was well researched. You brought up some names from history that was covered in dust You had images which is a plus .. Of course their is more to the story that selected ones would have an explanation for example the truth behind evening tide and the reason why food all of a sudden reappear from nowhere once … …. …. But overall I must commend and applaud your work … salute 🫡 You earn my respect with just one tune . Keep recording 🔥
One more comment / question: until last year, I was under the impression that JA was preparing to be like Cuba. Last year the Beverly Manley book and a series of interview happened. In one of the interview Beverly indicated that what was really happening food wise in the mid to late 70's was a number of countries would not import food to JA. And Cuba was the only one that stepped up to help Jamaica. 🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️ I only went to basic school in Jamaica, so missed out on learning about JA's history. Over the last 3 yrs I've taken an interest in learning. As you no doubt are aware, a wan whole heap a sintin bout JA history out deh, enuh. A little clarification on the "food shortage" of the mid to late 70'swould be appreciated.
What she is not explaining is that to purchase food, medicine or anything else externally, the payment has to be in $US. Covered by funds held in Reserve at the Bank of Jamaica. Her husband had already depleted that Reserve. We had no way of paying for goods into the Island. Not that they didn't want to sell us, we couldn't pay. Period! Castro was willing to help because of his friendship with Michael but they themselves was under stress.
@@calligraphy4851 Lol! Just the way you say this cracks me up. How old are you, if you don't mind my asking. Not a lot of Jamaicans care to learn the truth about their country. And you are right, Mr. Manley had the same vision for Jamaica as Cuba. So too did the former PM of Guyana. They, all three, went to school together.
Great, informative video as usual. I lived down by Gold street and attended Holy Family primary school before getting my scholarship to Calabar High School. I don’t remember much but I grew up hearing some crazy stories like the Wild West. I remember living at Bayfarm Villa (Water House) and Orange Villa years later. The violence seemed to follow us. I’m glad to see the political violence is not as crazy as the 70’s and 80’s. We’ve come a long way!
I remember that period very vividly. We were living in East Kingston. My mom told my father she wasn't going to stay in town that week. The Sunday morning before election day (Thursday) we boarded a bus to Manchester to stay with her uncle for the week.
@@EliteJamaica I lived through the horrors bro. I went to primary school in Central Kingston and on more than one occasion we were on lockdown because of shootouts on East Queen St. I also had classmates who lived in Southside. I was talking to one last year who told me her father was a target of the Gold St massacre. The family had to pack up and move out of the area shortly after.
Living then in Tower Hill, west central st Andrew there are so much of what you said bring back memories , I even witnessed the arresting of Ferdy Yap by the police in front of my gate
One day after the election!!!! That JLP won. THAT WAS A DISASTER FOR JAMAICA 🇯🇲AND JAMAICA IS ON THE BRINK OF DISASTER AGAIN WITH THE LGAL TRAFFICKING OF HOMOSEXUALITY IN THE COUNTRY BY THE RASTA FARINA AND THEIR PERSON IN POWER, MR PRIME MINISTER OF JAMAICA (PRESENT).
Who is the prime minister why he cant be dissed ? Low the people meck dem speak dem mind . A who you fi want come sensor people. Is a public platform you are on .....remember dat.
My grandfather said that the murder rate was much higher than what was reported. And the reported murder rate was a record for 16 years. It was only after 1996 that the rate surpassed that of 1980. Over 80,000 people migrated, 25% drop in GDP and some families couldn’t bury their loved ones due to cement shortages. Both rich and poor left the island. Born fi dead book highlighted politics link to crime. That’s why a certain former prime minister wanted it banned.
You wonder why Jamaica is where it is right now. A Prime Minister who was not Jamaican. He was the tool they used to bring Jamaica to its present position, on its knees.
The Blind one made his presence then . He wanted full control at whatever cost. He only manage to shoot his way through one election (1980) ..the next election he won by a landslide ( him alone run against himself ) . Intelligent people know what was taking place and made sure he was not put at the hem agsin . He is no more but his coke head , badman , gunman factory is still in operation down town . Mckensie once proposed that may pen cemetery becomes a Tourist attraction lol .......why ? To show the mutals and graves of these youths.....used and died for no reason at all but believing that they are BAD man and a part of something. Many alive in down town kingdton now are still suffering from that effect to this day . Wholesale vengeance murders and a spiraling coke head innetcity population.. the marketing was done in the 70s and 80s .....it's a free for all now .
well said💯 I seconds you on this comment...that criminals bastard parnell Charles when Manley send send him to Red fence up park Camp he should stay there forever
What was the essence of the conflict for the first time Jamaican was challenging their former masters for land the right to education ownership of ours natural resources decide our own destiny a lot of Jamaican joint their fomer masters and brought death and destruction included the burning to death of 154 old black women in a single terrorist attack
@@careydepass130 I help you here it happen in 1975 the name is Eventide Home 154 elderly women was burn to death only 3 of them manage to escape because the criminals who plan n do it want to send a message but because these are old black people it was quickly forgotten not sure if you can look it up I remember the night when RJR was broadcast about it I was going to primary school my mom alway talk about it
For the sake of those poor old lady souls and their families ..........this needs closure . Wickedness !!!! . Only coke could let You do something cruel as that . Must have been Blind
I noticed carydepass didn't reply o well 154 old black women simply nothing smartly laughing remark a 154 year old woman sound like Stalin or Pol Pot or Kim Jun Un or any Mas murderer
Paul Scott of the Musson Group is one of the twenty one families controlling Jamaica. He was a member of the PSOJ. Nigel Clarke worked for Paul Scott as Operational Director before leaving the company in 2016 to become an MP and Minister of Finance. Nigel Clarke is reputed to be the next in-line to Andrew Holness. Paul Scott grandfather Desmond Blades moved to Jamaica from Barbados and worked for Mussons until he bought out the company. His grandmother Peggy Blades was born in Barbados. Her family emigrated to the Caribbean island from England in the 1600s; after Oliver Cromwell beheaded King Charles the first in 1659. Her family were plantocrats who planted sugar and tobacco. Peggy Blades late father, Douglas Robinson, was a gunner in the Royal Navy during World War 1. The sea runs in the family's veins and her great-grandfather Samuel Arnold Robinson was a sea captain. Her family were royalists responsible for chasing Henry Morgan out of Barbados - where he had a sugar estate. That resulted in Henry Morgan fleeing to Jamaica. All these people controlling Jamaica had ancestry connected to the military for the British Government. It was the military that made Britain great and was able to steal, enslave, and kill people in its proxy wars. The royal family had its military force to hold onto power. During King Charles coronation the military was out on display. I found the history of the Scott family and the Scott family appears to have resided in several Caribbean islands and Canada. They also had ancestors in the British military. In fact it seems clear now that the Scott family who were prominent in Jamaica from the mid-eighteenth century had come from Ballingarry in north Tipperary, Ireland where Jeremiah Scott (who had fought at the Battle of the Boyne in 1690) settled in the time of William III. Jeremiah’s son - yet another John Scott - had a large family of at least ten children many of whom were mention in the Will of their sibling the Hon. John Scott of Jamaica, proved in 1776. This John Scott had brothers who ventured out across the colonies, Michael to Grenada, George to Dominica and Joseph to Nova Scotia. George, who was a professional soldier, was appointed Governor of Grenada but then left to be Governor of Dominica where he was killed in a duel in 1767. Michael seems to have remained in Grenada and by the time of his brother John’s death was still in dispute with him about George’s Will. Other brothers, and several sisters remained in Ireland. Joseph Scott went to Canada where he built himself a delightful manor house at Fort Sackville, Bedford, Nova Scotia on land that had belonged to brother George. It is one of the oldest houses in Nova Scotia and is now a museum. In 1796, three ships brought approximately 600 Maroons - men, women, and children - to Halifax from Jamaica, where they had fought for independence from Britain. To solve what the British saw as a security problem in Jamaica, the Maroons were transported against their will to Nova Scotia. Nova Scotia is where Joseph Scott lived in his Manor House. Joseph Scott (1728 - September 29, 1800) was a soldier, merchant, government office holder, and political figure in Nova Scotia. Most of the Jamaicans sent to Nova Scotia in 1796 did not live long because of cold weather condition.
Your comment seem to contain some historical facts.....some important but others not.For example, what's the relevance of mentioning that Nigel Clarke worked for Paul Scott....after mentioning that Scott was one of the 22 families controlling Jamaica's wealth then? 1.I am sure Clarke is not the only politician who worked for those wealthy people 2. For what it's worth....was Matalon one of the 22 families??.....and did one of those Matalon' s serve as Minister in the then PNP government??.....just for what it's worth.... Former PM PJ Patterson described the politics of Jamaica as: "The fight for scarce benefits and political spoils carried on by hostile tribes who are perpetually at war dividing rather than uniting the country" What happened in the 1970s was essentially the PEAKING of that war..... BOTH PNP and JLP were combatants...they have done a "remarkable" job dividing Jamaica.....the evidence (much of it in the 1970s) shows the PNP moreso than the JLP though. On another note....I don't think an objective person can recall anything more CRUEL though than the GREEN BAY KILLING!....I think it was the worst thing since the Morant Bay Massacre of 1865!!
@@wayneanthony1089 Nigels Clark name is mentioned so people can see that these young men are groomed into their respective positions . All those big bull private party where the goodies are handed out to a selected few . The door keepers have to shovel dirt on you before you are let into the party . Nothing is as it it. You could be bright like morning star .....To enter you have to eat dirt first . Wayne blaming the PNP for inciting the violence go to his grave and ask -"Blinds ".......you have no idea what you are talking about bro . It was a fight against good and Evil . One party had the handle .....one had had the blade . The Jamaican people know who held the blade . You spoke about Green Bay killings ..........talk about the thousands killed since the 80s alone . If you line them up their mothers in the streets in the political garrisons . I heard that Eventide fire was a propaganda lie to sway public opinion . Who could be so heartless for political gains to order such cruelty . Its obvious that some people are unable to read between the lines as you have . That BLIND man shoot his way into one term .....the Jamaican people gave him ( based on his violent nature) the other term free . He was booted out by them shortly after .....never to return again . Jamaicans are not stupid .....most of us know what's going on . RASTATAFARI just sitting with a big spiff .........watching these things that he sang and preached about ......unfolds lol. More youth dying today in the streets than green bay . This is where the conversation should be .
I voted multiple times for the PNP when I was 13, many children were forced to do so if not harm would have come ourselves or family. Our island was never the same as our black leaders embrace self interests over nation building, while Singapore build a strong country Jamaica's leaders seek to divide and decline the country.... future
Be realistic and positive. Jamaica will not fall into ruins or chaos . We the people must join with our government to move Jamaica forward. I cannot remember reading in history any country that over came who did not have to work hard and sacrifice and build their country. We have a lot of work to do , but we need team work and sacrifice I'm
The truth is in Suzans Gunter book I believe . The title of the book is " born fi dead " . Read that book first before you read Charles "Detention " to get a better understanding of the filth that took place in the name of control .
IMF: The way in which the IMF funding was structured caused both the PNP and JLP a problem. Jamaica was the first English speaking caribbean country to receive loans under the IMF structural adjustment program. The IMF imposed conditionalities to these loans, which both parties found difficult to meet. PNP had a policy of social programmes as the engine of growth, and JLP had the private sector as an engine of growth. Both parties struggled to meet the IMF conditionalities. Both had to return to the IMF to renegotiate their loan conditionalities.
More to it than that. Why did we need the IMF in the 1st place?? We squandered our Reserve. Social Programmes are good but not at the detriment of the Private Sector. We need Investors. Driving out Investors forces you to borrow under the lenders rules.
@tramp2827 We did not need IMF funding, but it was fashionable at the time, and it still is today, with our recent US $ 1.7 billion loan from the IMF. Investment in social programs/human capital and the private sector are equally important if we want to be a developed nation. But what type of investors do we want? We may have sqandered our reserves, but the way in which the IMF was set up and structured after Bretton Woods did not serve the interests of developing countries. The IMF conditions and assessments only served to perpetuate poverty in underdeveloped and developing countries. All loans, for example, have to be paid back in US$. Why? Our currency is the Jamaican $. IMF loans is not structured to develop underdeveloped or developing countries.
Election i will never forget,i were 15 years at the time.I remember the night before the election Jamaica were blocked out ,no lights all of Jamaica.The things i saw in 1980 remain until this day in my brain.I am from the west Kingstown (Denham town).Thank GOD some of us make it out.
I think these notes will get destroyed easy, cause it has already started, then we will still have to go digital, I think these notes are just a ploy to buy time
I could never forget this because I was a baby when the war started everyone from town Kingston ran to country the other sad part is everyone could not get any food or other things that we all needed hopefully we never have to go through this every again my heart still breaks from losing love one’s family and friends 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
One is a leader with a vision the other is an imposter never born in Jamaica neither the commonwealth, no one even in today’s Jamaica has explained under what circumstances this person became a PM.
@@wayneanthony1089 before I answer your question I’m gonna take the opportunity to asked you one IS JAMAICA WHERE IT SUPPOSED TO BE? and I’m not referring to the geographical location I meant ECONOMICALLY.
Yeah! What vision? Before Manley Jamaica was ranked way a head of Singapore. Lee Knan Yew came to Jamaica in the 1960's and took the Jamaican blue print of industrialization. Today Singapore is on top in all global indicators. Manley experment set Jamaica back 20 generations.
@@english2811 The answer to your question is very easy and simple: NO, Jamaica is NOT where it is supposed to be, economically, neither is it near where it CAN be economically.....but largely because of where it went in the 1970s.... because of that "vision" of which you refer....that same vision that Lee Quan Yew of Singapore said reminded him of Don Quotie!! I dare you to take me on now!!🤔🤔 I invite you to go and read and UNDERSTAND then Finance Minister Hugh Small's Budget Speech of April/May 1980 and then get back to me! I beg of you, don't say a word before you read and UNDERSTAND that Budget Speech!! (BTW... Michael Manley said he learned that that "vision" was WRONG.Upon his return to power in 1989 he said he learned from Ronald Reagan in a speech Reagan made in Cancun, Mexico)
Grow the pie firstly before you can share it. The PNP has been sharing the pie and not growing. Look at the economic growth under each political parties over the decades. Economic growth under JLP is on pare with Trinidad, Barbados, and the Eastern Caribbean States. And under the PNP, our economic growth is on pare with Haiti. Think on it.
Do you remember the peace treaty you signed up in the city..remember the peace treaty you signed up in the city. NOW this one has a gun 🔫 and that one has a gun 🔫 and that was the peace treaty. PETER TOSH
Omg...my mom told me about this day...I was borned in the night. She almost had me in a goat pen at the back of our house...thank god my grand uncle drove a garbage truck back then and persons knew him. That's how she was able to reach the university hospital safely..
I think that it was more than just the IMF. The ideological mindset played a grand role. There was a perception that Manley would've transformed this country into a communist state. The rise in oil world price also played a major role. The CIA as well. Michael determination to spread the wealth was perceived as a bad economic strategy, and more. Was it Michael fault ? I can only say that nothing in our politics must be taken on the surface. There is more to it than what's seem.
During this time I was a preteen to teenager, it was bad but the murder rate was way low compared to nowadays and to the people who will make ignorant comments like we never recovered from those days, there are countries after those days that went through wars with other countries and civil war and they are safer and way more economically independent than Jamaica.🇯🇲
Seaga's parents were Jamaicans; he was born in Boston but his parents went back to live in Jamaica when he was 3 months old, so technically, he is a Jamaican. He also renounced his American citizenship.
I remember that period very well I was young guy then was just barely teenager 14 yr old I rememebr I walking with an adult I believe I was acompanying her to the shop and labourite motorcade was passing and she said put up your 2 finger show them back a V that is the sign they displayed driving passed us .she wasnt even a JLP and I didnt grow up in a JLP home.but that is how toxic the country was in 1980 you dont show the same political sign to a party motorcade and your life could be in danger..leading up to the October 30th general election 1980 no day ever passed and we didnt hear on the news people died from political violence .
Back then you had to pick a side where I grew up. SMH. Crazy thing is when I hear my uncle’s and aunts talking about this we all lost family from pnp to jlp side.
There was no comminis involved but the USA as head of the IMF put unreasonable demand on Mr Manley that would be unbearable for the citizens of Jamaica. USA has its idea to have the JLP IN POWER INSTEAD OF THE PNP BECAUSE THE PNP HAS THE PEOPLE'S INTEREST IN MIND BUT THE JLP WAS AND STILL AN ADVOCATE OF THE USA.
The pnp that sold the country's assets, you must be living under a rock, and please do not write in caps, that doesn't help the nonsense you are writing, the JLP is the best administration since colonial days however its people like you who sell out the country because unu use to the free pnp hand out, best you go look a job.
I live on Oxford Street,right beside madden,brown,Roman funeral home and KPH.I used to run up the road to who were dead when they bring dead people to madden.
WPJ i remember them clearly. The most militant group ever existed in Jamaica Greenwich farm 7st, i also remember that hurricane i was going school in Annatto Bay Allage school as it was known then. A mean times then as a young bought😏🙄🤔
