INTJ is spot on: I (an INTJ) actually got fired once, essentially because I wouldn't put on a show of aggression for clients. (I'm an attorney). Everyone wants a "bulldog" in the courtroom, but aggression doesn't change facts or help negotiations; it may make short-sighted people feel vindicated, but it's useless when it come to actually getting things done. However, the boss was so worried about the firm's optics (reputation) because a handful of clients refused to accept that there expectations were unrealistic, and I took the heat for it. I don't care if that's how the game is played for some people, I'd rather get things done then act like someone personal clown.
Wow, that's nuts. I'm an INTJ too and I almost got fired once just for acting weird. For example, once I wordlessly and abruptly left the room when I'd been working on something with my coworkers because I realized I had to go somewhere. No information or explanation at all, which seems absurd to me in retrospect... and that's just one example. Apparently my coworkers thought I was some kind of sociopath lol. Despite improvement on this front, I still have very little tolerance for what I see as emotional discourse and social pleasantries, and I tend to assume that nobody cares much what I do or what I think of them so I don't put in much effort usually. This has made interactions with almost everyone in my life very difficult, because people usually think I actively dislike them and will avoid me, or act vindictively/defensively as a result.
INTJ here, spot on. I can be a good coach, but have no urge to get in the game.. and if I don't step back and be my own political advisor, I will do exactly the kind of thing that both of you have done.
I have been fired and almost kicked out of my grad school program. Not for optics though. For standing up against a broken system. Interns were working out of closets, had no counseling training, the environment was unprofessional. So I sent an email to my supervisor about the conditions, and it was interpreted as “narcissistic, and like I was staging a coup” or something. I had to apologize to stay in the program and was punished with more tedious tasks. An absolute nightmare, but proud to say I finished the internship and got my graduate degree!
isfp and i agree so much. honestly sometimes i find myself just wanting to run away and be free to escape this annoying system of life, which is probably a very common thing but i do think about this topic a lot
Luckily there are plenty of alternative lifestyles that I think an ISFP can rock. Like there's vanlife, tiny house communities, minimalism. I feel like those alternatives cost less in the long run so you don't have to hustle as hard just to have an enjoyable life. Have you considered something like that?
Same here, especially that im in a highly competitive career and the possibility for a free life or the option of running away won’t come until sometime later, sometimes it gets really hard to keep going
I'm an ENTP and I can confirm that this is a universal tendency in at least all autonomy loving creative people. My desire for the greatest possible autonomy for myself is one of the things that motivates me most in life and also my philosophy on the world especially my Anarchist tendencies.
@@sharpiesarecool814I'm an ENTP and I strangely relate to this bohemian minimalist vibe that the ISFP has as someone who values autonomy and connection above any form of luxury.
INTP- I’ve had conversations with people and they say something like “you’re right, but you don’t have to say it like that” I get frustrated when people say this because I don’t feel like I’m trying to hurt them, I’m trying to help by removing the chaos that emotion and hopefully revealing the naked truth so we know exactly where we are. I will admit that I do enjoy dark questions because I’m both interested in them and watching more feeling types squirm is a guilty pleasure.
INTJ really hit home. I was expecting more cliche stuff I've matured out of but the idea of knowing how the game is played but not wanting to be out there doing it is so true.
Something else I've noticed with INTJs (particularly us females) is the importance of behavioral consistency with people you are first getting to know. When you know you're going to be meeting new people and want to make a good impression, you can actually get yourself yourself in more trouble if you are too likeable and friendly. It's not a problem if it's the only time you'll ever see those people... the problem arises in the subsequent interactions. If a person is successful at convincing people that they are friendly, but then they are not able to maintain that SAME level of friendliness with those people later on, those other people can often worry that they did something to offend the INTJ and that the INTJ no longer wants to interact. It's very common for INTJ's to later hear confessions of "I thought you HATED me" when they actually felt completely neutral about a person. So as an INTJ I've been trying to resist the urge to be TOO friendly when I first meet someone because I know I can't keep it up long term... people are usually experienced enough to recognize that you have to judge a person's actions in context of their natural temperament, so if they first meet a reserved and unemotional person, they will likely couch future behaviors as normal for you rather than becoming confused, rejected, and paranoid.
This is an excellent point. I've had someone actually cry because they thought i was deliberately being unpleasant to them after a more overtly friendly introduction.
The INFJ was just perfectly spot on. You really called me out xD To people that are close to me or that I've known for a while, I can be straightforward and honest, mainly because I have an idea how it will turn out and the risk of causing any damage/hurting the persons feelings or causing them to hate me and not speak to me anymore is minimal. I am working on being more straightforward in my everyday life, but its not easy at all and I often fail. As to the 'overcomplicating things', I can only say, it iss what it iss
Dear, sweet Nathan. Sometimes I think you're the only one who "gets" us ISFJs. What other people see as us being scared, boring, or fuddy-duddy, you see for what it is: we set up our lives for efficiency, and it's honestly just confusing when someone tries to get us to change when nothing's wrong. I mean, it's good advice and a good reminder to us not to miss out by forgetting that we can still experiment with other methods. I just want to say how respected and valued I feel when you make a point of seeing where we're coming from and not just laughing at us.
INFP here. I expected this to be some painful truth. I was surprised that this is not an issue of mine. I see beauty in the mundane. Cried over how gorgeous the grey clouded sky was. The soft pillowy clouds turning the vault of the heavens into a low comforter stretching across the land. How the leafless trees in the distance look like the finest lace edging the ground. How the bare earth looked like velvet and the snow like gently shimmering satin. Beautiful is everywhere. It’s in each soap bubble when doing dishes. Everywhere and in everyone.
Yes! I was shocked to see this ‘blindspot’ until he elaborated. Although I wouldn’t describe myself as incredibly mature, I do in fact romanticise my everyday life. The sky, the trees, the seasons, the sun light, birds, children’s laughter. All are good moments which seem quite aesthetic and picturesque. Whilst I do fantasise a lot, I definitely see the magic in the mundane.
@@multitudesreplyaccount3163 I have found and made magical self care. Though I prefer to call it self parenting. Feels more accurate to me. There is magic and beauty in cooking or making tea and there is surprising grace in a simple shower. The zen of vacuuming is not to be underestimated nor the sense of accomplishment from doing taxes. I suppose I should have expanded my explanation in the first place.
RU-vid keeps deleting my replies, so let me see if I can repost this one... I relate to you both, but what you're describing is not really what I think of as 'the mundane'. I too have always had an easy time finding beauty in simple things that are pretty undeniably beautiful if one just takes the time to appreciate them. But there are many 'uglier', more soulless aspects of reality where it can be more difficult to do that. Working a meaningless job just to survive. Dealing with financial or administrative matters. Cleaning your house. Fixing your car. Feeding yourself. Taking care of your health. Dealing with the various drudgeries and responsibilities of adult life, which can end up consuming the majority of your time. Putting in the various kinds of tedious work you might have to in order to eventually have the life you really want (assuming you aren't lucky enough to have been handed that without much effort).
@@lindsayschnittger9698 I've found those things too, but it took a long time, and I tend to agree that it's a natural blindspot for myself and many INFPs.
As an ENTJ the moment where you said that since we work so hard towards perfecting our performance we might end up raising other people’s expectations and how the lack of vulnerability doesn’t make them feel all that empathetic towards us really rang true to my own situation in this very moment. I always over burden myself with things in order to proof my capabilities, however, this makes other people think that I can handle it every day all the time with no rest, and that is simply not true. I have noticed how demanding people become whenever my performance doesnt line up with the precedent i have created over time, and how i simply swallow my words and work twice as hard to achieve it. It’s the worst thing to betray yourself in that way, and the worst part is that after that I constantly look for ways to make up for the poor performance that cane before that. I dont think that I have a clear resolution to this thought, but it certainly feels better to get this out there.
My ENTJ mother has that same problem... in fact, when she left my alcoholic father, my other siblings were actually angry with her and not at all understanding of all the suffering she went through. They perceived her as being this stoic rock of a human being who could handle all my dad's bullshit (after all, she had been doing so for years), but in reality she was just miserable and fed up and wanted happiness for herself just like anyone would. It was really bizarre to see them be so harsh toward her considering how bad my dad's condition was.
@@justsomenobody889 And even after posting that I felt stupid and weak, because I have been conditioned to believe that I should be strong enough to just bear it. I hope your mom is doing well now. I swear it sucks to be seen as the one who has to bear with all of it. Even now, I was kicked out of the house with my sister and we both have jobs so thankfully it is not that bad, but the weight of the whole situation has been carried by me. And the second I stop everyone and their mother just starts getting aggressive as if I have suddenly stopped taking care of it. People think ENTJs are insanely assertive and take zero bullshit, but sometimes we are scared to say certain things because we are afraid that the worth of our character will crumble if it is not built on top of the base of our achievements.
@idontexist5041 my mom is an entj and that's imho the complete opposite of the truth. I find ntjs put up with a TON of abuse/neglect and are expected to just take it so they do till they get dangerously fed up and either leave or hurt someone verbally/physically. Then people want to flip it and make THEM into the villain and I hate it with a passion. My mom has been through so much and is such a giving kind, loving person but she doesn't express it as outwardly as an fj might. Entjs are my favorite and don't get enough credit/support.
I’m an INFP with the struggles described here for ENFP’s also. As well as those for INFP’s of course. I’ve been wanting to take a class. I finally got signed up yesterday, and the initial excitement is already fizzling. But it’s only 5 weeks, so I’ll manage. It’s so frustrating though.
Yes I agree. This ENFP analysis puts my struggle to follow through on my ideas perfectly. The thrill of the idea/dream is better than actually doing it. As soon as I share them with others the spark fades and I'm onto the next. It's infuriating! I too also relate to INFP and the joy of fantasy over mundane. I never intended to live a "boring traditional life" and I certainly haven't had one so far. Now if I could just pick one country to live in and one job to do.... 🤔
I think ISTPs also deal with the ESTP problem. As an ISTP My Es is so in tune that I can I be a master at anything that I’m interested in. My brain is designed to brake down systems and find new ways of improving onwhat is already there. The only problem is that I might lose interest after I completely decode the system and become too good at breaking it down and understanding it from the inside out. Then I’m stuck with that and giving up and moving on if I find that I can’t apply logic to a problem. Seeing all the possibilities and running the simulation in my mind from start to finish makes me able to predict what I can master, but at the same time it also makes me incapable of sticking through with something long enough to see long term results because I can see it’s inconsistencies. The pain 😩, blessed and cursed with so much talent, but not having enough spaces that allow an istp to channel their gifts, aswell having the freedom to integrate brilliant ideas into a society that discourages individual thinking.
ESTPs are also notoriously self reliant. What helped me is realizing I was wasting a lot of time either doing or figuring something out on my own. Start off-loading out-sourcing shit.
ENTP - It's related to your solution. The blindspot is like a car's blindspot, with forward and rearward being replaced by extroversion and introversion. It's in the transitioning between those two perspectives where it goes wrong and navigation gets tricky.
INTJ 13:35 yeah. Actively have to make an effort to not *wear the same comfortable thing every day.* To *dress nice* when situations call for it. Definitely not a natural inclination. But after getting used to it, sometimes it can be fun to coordinate & execute various outfits
It doesn't have to be important just because other people do it, let people get used to your way of doing things. Which approach do you think will last as humanity progresses? Even the word nice doesn't make sense, help people face the truth as an intj.
@@thecod2345 interesting. I approach fashion differently. "Dressing up" is not really for others, but actually for my own self esteem. Dressing nice means putting in effort in my own well being. I WANT to treat myself as something precious. I want to look good cuz for so long I put zero effort in myself, wearing baggy, ill-fitting ugly clothes, not saying all baggy clothes is bad (everyone has their own taste), but rather what those clothes represented to myself was a lack of effort in my own well-being and wanting to be invisible, thinking I wasn't worth any effort. Dressing nice to me isn't dressing nice for others, but rather dressing in clothes that align with my personal taste and being sorta the symbol for the things I care about to myself. Just living a more complete life basically, to have my surroundings reflect back to me the things I care about. So, for example, I notice a lot of XNXPs love to wear shirts with pictures of their favorite video game, book, or concept. Not even just with clothes, but everything around them might reflect the things they care about. Or another example is someone who's practical and no nonsense might wear great fitting clothes that help make their life easier while still looking and feeling great cuz they deserve to treat themselves with care and buy themselves nice things, perhaps nice looking but very, very comfortable shoes if the activities they often do require it. My bad if this is long LOL but I just wanted to share my pov in clothing. Clothes aren't always a symbol made for others, but can be a fun world made entirely for the individual to enjoy. like I have an ISTP friend, and he usually wears cool but non descript clothing, he doesn't like to stick out too much, but he would perhaps buy shoes that are great for hiking and has accessories that are quite practical (a multitool knife)
@@thecod2345 haha I see! And lol it's funny how the practical side of your brain doesn't turn off when watching movies. It is kinda absurd to be doing stunts in carefully tailored suits. I feel like irl they'd definitely Hulk out of those clothes. But yeah thanks for sharing your perspective on clothes. It's interesting cuz I would explain your attitude towards clothes as maybe less Fe oriented, cuz Ti reason dominates your perspective, like clothes should just be practical cuz duh that's why they exist in the first place haha. It's interesting cuz I know ENTJs, for example, while also thinking dominant like you, theirs is still an extroverted function so while still efficient and practical etc. their tert Se might still havd some fun looking stylish for the sake of personal taste and to also just show off to others. My ENFJ sister goes back and forth on her opinion with the concept of clothing, sometimes she thinks just like an ISTP, as how you do with clothes, but other times she loves to show off and look great in fashionable outfits.
Istp- yeah true fs. But I'm somewhat wise enough to do it automatically when I REAALLLYY need it. Most of the time I think it's always better to be independent for multiple reasons but I'm not a p***y enough to not be able to ask for help SOMETIMES. But I will still be stubborn from time to time. One thing about istps is that we can be internally a little egotistical but I feel like more than any other type we know how to humble ourselves more. Probably because we're so grounded.
Oof. As an INFP trying to embrace the "not so magical" aspects of reality not aligning with my fantasy world, this one stung a bit in its accuracy. I love your take on what a healthy INFP does and I am striving to be just that.
Any tips on how to enjoy reality? I’ve been trying for a while to find the magic in the mundane, but it’s just so god damn mundane. How can reality ever compare to imagination, when the function of imagination literally seems to be to take reality and enhance it in some way?
@@tomhowarth9287 Well, medication certainly helped get me out of a dark spot that I was in for quite awhile. Aside from that, what helps me is indulging in things that pique my curiosity and engage my sense of wonder. Sometimes life is just going to be mundane and there are going to be days that are flops and that is okay. My goal these days is to not wallow in the despair that my reality doesn't match my imagination. There are so many things in reality that I have to be grateful for. It's easier said than done.
Typical INFP to think they are not healthy…You know…Most types don’t even think of themselves as healthy or unhealthy versions of themselves. That you do is probably a healthy thing. Which makes me think you are healthy.
The rat race thing is the exact conflict I am having at work at the moment. I just can’t get myself to jump through the hoops. And I know I am making my own life more difficult this way, but so be it, I just can’t help myself xD
& trying to get ppl around me to see that it’s all a lie is my mission lol. but i’m currently learning that you have to continue enjoying the moment, & only do what satisfies. you can’t let anyone outside of you decide what happiness is for you.
As a growing infp, i like to think of my blend of life and fantasy as one of those children’s books with the clear overlay pages. I have one mundane, uninspiring worldview(the dull- opaque page or background, the reality) and the haze/fog of fantasy and self-indulgent imagination (the additive and fun clear page, my musings).
I’m an ISFP and for years every time I get sick of the rat race I tell my husband we should sell everything and live in an RV and travel and my INFJ husband is like no 🤨 we are not doing that 😂.
Asking for help is torturous. Why should other people be involved in our problems? I think part of it for me is trusting someone enough to let into my problem. I sure love to help others though lol. Cute puppy! I love rotties. -ISTP
I'm an ISFP but I do take part in the rat race once in a while because it helps me move ahead. Though, it's never a compromise on my peace or my lifestyle.
ISFP too, and I'm in the rat race too, and maybe because of my parents I don'd hate it that much. They showed me a good example how to take part in an efficient way. And it really helps you move ahead. Actually in a way I got used to it.
@@dorottyadesi208 when you were in high school, were you also unsure about what career to choose? all high school, i just lived day-by-day & i figured the right job title would come to me one day. didn’t think much about it. i couldn’t tell what i liked until i physically tried it out. i also didn’t see why everyone was getting all hyped about college acceptance either, bc it’s all school lol.
ISFP here! I agree will all of these comments. I feel like not involving myself has had an effect now, and I am realising I have to get involved to an extent to get somewhere. It feels a little too late, but at the same time, you're never late because life is still happening. sooo.. it's from this moment onwards really
Ouch. As an ENFP, I too sometimes find myself testing waters everywhere without seeing any goal in it.😅 Although, I take that as a que that I am stressed about life in somewhere so I take some time to introspect then.
Straightforwardness-- I think I have matured in this area very well. I think it's because of my developed Ti and Se. I am very straightforward with my relationships and and honest. I am a lot less anxious about how people feel about me now, because l'm more up front then trying to beat around the bush to avoid confrontation. I just try to say things in a respectful way while still be truthful.
Perfect, that's what I needed. Last year at work, I heard INTJ : "It's not my philosophy." And that's all, having his own way of seeing things, but will probably never express it. Ni, I think, we do not agree, have our own optic, point of view, perception. But we don't really want spend our time and energy to explain why if we see they don't care. Knowing they will not understand it or us, and don't want to know or understand.
There comes a certain point with INTJs where we know trying to convince someone of something is simply a waste of time. My go to phrase for such situations is, "I'd agree with you but then we would BOTH be wrong."
I (INTJ) would enjoy explaining all the reasons of the choices I make or my perception of something, but I must value the intelligence of the people I'm talking to, otherwise I won't even bother. Sometimes people laugh cause when asking a simple question, they see me staring silently at them for 30 seconds and then talk (or not).
Thanks for this compilation. As an inferior SE user, I find most physical activities, such as dancing or sports, to be a struggle. I'm also not the most in touch with my physical surroundings, since I tend to live in my head the most.
I think weaknesses and blindspots are different concepts. i.e. for ISFJ where risk-taking is a blindspot in the video. I think that ISFJs sometimes think about risk-taking and sometimes treasure the idea. I think it’s the cognitive function Te, which they are blind of. They are oblivious of being direct to the point, same with INFJs. Another example is myself, which is an INFP. I think that the INFPs blindspot is reality itself, which is a very Se function. The same with INTPs also, Se is their blindspot hence the reason why INFPs and INTPs are so clumsy and always aloof as we are oblivious to our environment (reality). To summarize, the blindspot function is the inverse of our 3rd/tertiary function. Example: INFP/INTP 3rd function is Si, thus the blindspot function is Se.
Couldn’t have said this any better. I agree this video should be titled “Weaknesses of the 16 Personalities” since “blind spot” is another concept that refers to the introverted/extroverted inverse of a personality’s tertiary function. I admit when I clicked on this video I expected to hear about ISFJ’s blind spot Te
Exactly, ISFJ can very much start to chase risk-taking to the extreme if they find themselves in their shadow. It's not unheard of for an unhappily married ISFJ to suddenly decide to take off without warning to be with someone they barely met on the internet, or to become addicted to drinking and drugs when under extreme stress in their lives. This can come through their demon function (Ni) which can be self-destructive to what they really want out of life (comfort, stability, normalcy from Si Hero). Their blind spot is extroverted thinking which is their trickster. I believe these two factors may be responsible for them sometimes delving into risk taking that can ruin their reputations and their desired futures.
As an intj, I’m finding it so hard to stick with something long term, some work that will show results at a very long time. I lack patience; aggressively. I need a way that is mathematically proven that has results. Dumping energy and time into something with no guaranteed results is my nightmare. I’m starting to fall in love with a day-to-day hard routine and I’m finding excitement into doing it right; specially when the things are going wrong.
I think you might be mis-typed. Sticking with something long-term is usually an INTJ strength, and INTJs are often willing to sacrifice immediate results or comfort for long-term pay-offs. If something's method is vague or uncertain, and INTJ will have contingency plan after contingency plan to refine their methods in order to achieve the long-term vision.
@@johnknight9150 I think that’s intj’s fearing failure, I might have seen some intj channel talk about it. Sure they can plan and so can other types, but it’s not guaranteed external environment would work out the way they imagined it to be. You can’t control everything after all. (And intjs tend to give everything for this one thing so they better make sure it’s well worth it..) intjs are not like stereotypical ‘master of plan of everything’ irl, it’s just way too fantasized.
@@johnknight9150 i have absolutely NO problem with setting long-term goals and doing them, as I explained, my problem is with “is this gonna pay off?” There are some works that will not guarantee a success at all. Day after day, you are doing them and yet you are seeing no change whatsoever. An example of this is a recently graduated student who wants to pursue a career in mechanics. He starts with a job that is related to this, but it’s not covering some other aspects of this career. He doesn’t know if the stuff that he’s learning and putting so much effort into it are helpful to his valuable long term plan or not. Is he in the right path? He doesn’t know. Most types are good with this sort of things. They have a lof of energy to spend and will gwt good at their job after a while, but they usually find that job by accident or because they couldn’t do anything else. They start a job, get good at it and make a good living. It’s NOT the case for an intj. I completely disagree with you in this, because analysing every single asset of a work, specially if it’s a long term passion career, is very important for an intj. Going for a job that semi-suits us and hoping for the best is not something that an intj would do.
@@SaraHovera intj is a very conservative and cautious type; it’s how they survive. It’s not the fear of failure which is the cause of this, at least for me. It’s the fear of our limited lifetime spent in the wrong way. People who think that intj is a powerhouse of will power and hard work are victims to those stupid stereotypes that pages with little to no knowledge of cognitive functions make.
@@pinkbanana1276 why do you think INTJ wouldn't take a job that is not perfect for them? If the other option is being unemployed for months or years, trust me you'd just take whatever best given opportunity that can push you somewhere, anywhere. Just not to stay at the same place and do damn nothing. Anyway I think your problem is Fi, learn how to deal with failure, that should solve your problem.
I find the ENFJ one so relatable, it gets very difficult especially when other people tell you what we are sensing is not the case, it's difficult to accept that, since the gut instinct predictiveness usually throughout my life had been very accurate.. I will take the advice into consideration :)
I suggest to reflect on who actually gives you the feedback. If it is an ESTJ or ISTJ I would consider their intentions. Obviously it always depends on the level of self awareness of the person since projections are hard to spot…even your own.
As an INTP it is very true. I think we all want and maybe need to be objective in, everything in life. For me, I hate when I get emotional and always try to avoid it so I can have my head clear. I'm a very emotional person (4w5 lol), but still whenever something affects me I just ignore it since it's not "necesesary" . But when someone else comes for advice on an emotional matter, most of the times I can understand perfectly how they are feeling and I never tell them to do the same thing as me, cause we know it's normal to be emotional and to feel things, however, when it comes to us, the "objectivity" always wins telling us that it's not something to get emotional for. well at least this is what happens with me ;)
Wow. As an intj with Fe blindspot, I really admire your position. Being intj, objectivity is in my nature (because Ni + Te is really about understanding objectively from many pov) and it clouded my ability to understand the subjetive things (especially feelings) that others might think. And I tried to compensated it with trying to relate to others with my Aux Fi, but it still feels like a faux, because Fi is not Fe. What I feel doesn't necessarily the same with what others felt n it took me a long time to finally figure out what n why that other person felt that way n not this (my) way. If you dont mind, can you kindly explain to me how do you come to understand why other people felt what they felt? What are the determinant factors? Thx a lot if u care to explain, but it's ok if u dont
@@rossy3lo hiii im so sorry for the late reply hehe (i dont really check youtube notifications) I'll try to do my best explaining this, sorry if it makes no sense if im being honest, I havent always been able to understand that well why people react a certain way even though in my mind thats not the "right way" you know, because of that I used to be a little mean and insesitive. I think it takes a lot of time to get a grasp of it, and it's also kind of like a trial and error thing in the sense that it took me many situations to finally understand what things make people upset and most importantly to which kind of people (because everybody works differently) Still, I don't always relate to the way others feel, and the thing is, you don't need to. You just have to try and understand the situation, (kind of like cause and effect idk). The reason might not always be "reasonable" or "logic" but what you have to understand is that feelings are not logic. I think thats the most important thing to realise, that feelings are not logic, they don't make sense. Because of that, a lot of times the best you can do is to just let people feel whatever they are feeling, even if it makes no sense, because no one can control how their feelings work. I don't think there are any determined factors since its such a subjective thing. Because its so subjetive, I think it's better to look at it (analize it if you will) in a more personal way ratter than as a hole. I don't treat everybody the same way, because I know that each one of them will react differenty, so for example to some people I'll be very straight foreward and honest because they dont mind, and to others I'll try and avoid that because I know that they might get offended by that, even if they "shouldnt" Basically, feelings are very personal and work differently with everyone, so you gotta understand people individually, some of them will make sense to you, and some of them not. To the people whose feelings you cant make sense of, the best is to just have a conversation and get more insight, then you'll probably be able to understand better. Sorry for the long and late reply but hopefully this helps :)
@@javieracortinez5812 thank you.. I think your explanation will help me a lot, especially the part about feelings are not logics so it doesnt have to make sense and the part about letting others be. I do find some peole just impossible to console or to make them understand the silver lining / bigger picture / solution, etc., they seem just want to dwell on their misery (feelings), but maybe just like u said, it is best to just let them feel wht they feel. I will try your advice when dealing with people that I cant "read" n to analyze + gather some more insights about them. ☺️
Objectivity is everything. It's what attracts and solidifies my friendships. It brings us more than logical accuracy. It is everything we wish to be. -An INTP
Objectivity isn't logic in itself but "object above self". We tend to think of objectivity as superior, at least since the scientific method was established but this isn't the case. Objectivity is something we share.. it's something we're aware of that exists outside of us.. To make our subjective ideas in the objective, we have no choice but to work with the objective. At least in terms of the material and others who we can see are tangible like us.. Which is why extroverted feeling is quiet frustrating at times, in any of the top 4 I guess.. because it's ppl and not objects.. but even objects have consciousness.
Something I think people are blind about with ENFPs relating to what you said: it's not that ideas are cheap, it's that we often have ideas that are too big to do on our own. We're trying to get others excited about it so we can spread the work around and make it a reality. The idea itself isn't cheap and we're perfectly willing to put the time and effort into it, we just can't do it all on our own. This is why I've learned to always have co-authors for any story I write, so the work is spread more evenly. As a game dev, it's even more important. I can't make all that pixel art, but I can program it and write the dialogue. I can't get my idea off the ground without others to help. Thus, all this talk about ideas is a desperate attempt to get someone else on board so we don't have to face doing a massive task entirely on our own. It's an incredibly frustrating existence and "ideas are cheap" is just insulting to hear. We know that. We want help. So stop telling us not to dream and either help or find us someone who can.
I love co-authoring! It doubles my motivation and focus. Your theory is very accurate. In my experience, if I want to (or have to) do something by myself, I can't talk about it to anyone. It makes my dopamine cumulate and give me enough motivation to finish what I started. P.S. So you're a writer and game developer? Fun! How did you manage to get good at both?
The ESTP a bullseye. A mindset that has helped me is not being allowed start something new until I finish something. Unfortunately there are often several unfinished projects.
Asking for help is something I still can’t do. 1) I might not realize I need it. 2) Relying on others is not where I shine. It is absolutely ok to have people rely on me, yet for some reason I can’t seem to do that. As a result, I tend to take on responsibilities that are not just my own, try to solve everyone else’s doubts, take on their work and do whatever needs doing, unconsciously start believing that that is normal and should be reciprocated, to later realize that others may not share the same mindset, get frustrated and angry, repress that anger and fall into depression. And that is a problem. Once one is in such state, the normal thing would be: ask for help. My sort of help is: I have to figure things on my own. I realize that it is not ideal. Actually, it is far from it. I am still learning to ‘master’ this. But truth be told, I think I will have to deal with this problem for a longer period of time.
It's okay if it takes time. Just the fact you are aware is huge. You are set in the right direction because you know the end goal is to learn to depend on others. I love ISTPs ❤️
@@sharpiesarecool814 Thank you for your support and kindness. But my type is not ISTP. It’s INFJ. I usually don’t write it so I don’t confuse my own identity with personality type acronyms.
@@solarisan_ you're welcome 💝 And I get the not wanting to identify too heavily with the INFJ label as you are ultimately an individual, but even saying that I still love INFJs too hahaha (I actually really do 😳, at least the ones I've encountered).
@@sharpiesarecool814 As long as a person is in a healthy state of mind, I would assume they would be a pleasant company. That said, we do run a risk at encountering the unhealthy version of a personality type. Life is tricky, and so is a person’s mindset. Learning how to deal with difficulty in life can be a challenge for all of us. But a challenge worth going through in order to grow as a person. P.S. Thank you for your encouraging words. A word holds such immense power that most people overlook. It can make someone’s day unroll in a slightly better and more positive direction.
As an ISTP, my life and mental health quickly improved once I learned how to open up and ask for help from people I trust. Now I consider it an essential skill that I can judge others for not mastering lmao.
Knowing what is gut instinct and what is anxiety/wishful thinking is HUGE. So many times I've had a tap on the shoulder and said "That's crazy, stop assuming things." and had it come back to bite me in the butt.
Ugh. You had to go there (INTP) On the other hand, I do feel the point of “optics” can apply to INTPs also. This is one of the few things that frustrate me to no end, especially in the workplace.
I'm close to an ISTP and there are times when the only way I can get them to take the help is if I can convince them that it's some how a "repayment" for a thing they already did... Make it sound like an equal exchange in some way. However, this can be quite exhausting and imo, get in the way of having a truly selfless and trusting relationship, because if I remind them of all the selfless things I've done for them out of love they will retort back with "well you didn't have to do that" or "I don't need anything from you so you don't need anythingfrom me"... this line or thinking really cheapens the act, as if going out of my way is like a weakness or something. It's very frustrating and it took me some time to recognize it for what it is an try not to take it personally, even though I don't really understand it. It's an uphill battle and people around me think they are cruel at times for it, but I know it's almost like they can't help but think this way for whatever reason. Didn't plan making this a rant but if anyone wants to share their insight I'm open to it.
I think the act of accepting help locks them into a transaction that they - 1. Did not initiate and 2. Have to reciprocate(pay back). I could imagine that this could be mentally exhausting because reciprocating it will lead to it occurring again and again infinitely. If for example they did not reciprocate for any reason- they forgot, etc. - they may fear it would look bad on them - so the option that is the ultimate safest is to refuse help in the first place. If there are no expectations then there are no disappointments. The reality is that we all depend on each other in one way or another and are all human - which is where empathy comes in. But it’s understandable how this kind of cold and severe thinking process could exist.
That is the exact reason why I don't want others to help me, it's cause I know I can't appreciate it for what it is. Also I don't like to owe, it's not because I don't want to help back or something but it's just that I don't want to be bound to do something
As an INFP, I actively strive to be more present in the moment now. I’ve noticed I tend to make up scenarios while doing just about everything, lol, but- it’s important for me to give my sole focus and attention to that phase of time in reality sometimes.
I didn’t realize as an INFJ how bad I am at being objective and not “beating around the bush” until I had to learn to write incident reports for my work. Boss doesn’t like it if I write a philosophical discussion (even though they just watch the camera anyway), I guess 😅
ENTP - In the intro I thought the ENTP blindspot would be details but once again the video is much more spot on than I thought. In different scenarios I've spent hours making something/figouring it out only to see later that I could have just downloaded/looked it up on the internet. Also, when I was younger, I had some issues trusting people and what they've found/created, (so in that sense you could say that me reinventing the wheel helped me see that others did it just as good or even better than me)but as I'm advancing my studies I see how standing on the shoulders of giants is beneficial. I loved how you phrased everyhting in this video, "Leveraging the knowledge" sound so appealing. I related to many points in this video. Thank you for pointing them out! 💜
I like your thoughts, Elena. Funny thing is though, these days as an ENTP, I know that if I need to work anything out I can always look it up on the internet. And it surprises me the amount of people who don't know they can just look it up and find out
I get you, as an architecture student I always try to do all by myself, in these ways it has been useful since this allowed me to go into different fields and learn a lot of diverse softwares, which is helpful since my assignments tend to stand out and it is easy for me to learn new ones. Nevertheless, this always has been an issue in some ways since I tend to expend to much time doing things and it has put me endless times in the verge of deadlines
One additional insight from me concerning the issue of INTJs' optics. I guess the worldview of INTJs tends to form up in some kind of ideal/standard system, which is followed by them in course of their (our) life. Those systems can be based and inspired by their parents' view (rarely) or by their critics of their parents' view (more often, I guess^^); nevertheless, INTJs have their own notion of what is right, what is normal and what is wrong; those notions, though, might be very unique and individual, differing from other types' notions and even other INTJs' ones. The issue with the optics, IMHO, appears while confronting the other radically different notions, due to the difficulty to understand this difference (not even saying about accept). My personal example: I am the person that truly believes that the dishes and tables should be cleaned RIGHT AFTER the meal. You don't dare leave the kitchen with dirty plates left. This attitude was bred in me at my childhood parents' home, this attitude proved (for me) to be optimal during the life in the students' dormitory, as the kitchen there wasn't large enough, so to save place for other neighbours it was better to clean after yourself right away. And I was QUITE ANGRY that not all (speaking honestly, most of them didn't) of my neighbours shared my notion of the order in the kitchen and the room was often dirty, full of plates left unwashed, stove brown of the burnt oil. And I really couldn't get, what's wrong with them, what's so difficult about spending ten minutes for a slight cleaning after yourself. But then I discussed this problem with the neighbour, who shared my attitude, but wasn't as radical towards dirt as me, and he said, that the problem lies in my attitude towards my position as the one and only one possible. Not all of the kids grow in the clean houses, not all of them are raised with learning how to clean after yourself (especially in the eastern societies, where males don't usually do any housework). Therefore, not all of my neighbours feel bad about the dirty kitchen. Understanding of this didn't change my own notion, but helped me to correct my approach towards my swine neighbours from aggression to education and explanation. Also it helped me to understand why many of my Middle-Asian neighbours met in life had problems with cleaning the toilet after using it, leaving their shit to swim inside: that's because the majority of middle-asian migrants come to Russia (civilised, but not really well-being country) from the poor medieval villages without even a water circulation system; so they didn't develop an automatical skill to push the button in the toilet, as their toilet is the hole in ground in the best case. So, as you can see, questioning their optics can help INTJs adjust their notion of different people; that's why, I guess, it's useful.
Also I relate to knowing an ESFP who has been kind of an on/off casual FWB and last week we had the sex of our lives but they developed romantic feelings for a different person and started being exclusive with him a couple of days later but my ENTP blindspot Fi wonders whether I'm missing anything but a chance to hedonistically fill up my senses and theirs as fucked up as that sounds. They seem like they want to talk but I don't know what there is to talk about, a FWB style thing is just more sustainable for me as someone who is pretty fucking detached emotionally when it comes to people who I'm not actually close with as much as I want to be. It's almost like there has to be a decent amount of intellectual connection for me to develop a deep emotional bond with someone especially a sexual or romantic partner and I just don't know if it was just a hedonistic thing when we fucked last week as when we started this on and off sex thing. Being a young adult ENTP woman with a semi-active sex life is interesting fs 😅
As an entj I can attest to the fact that this video is incredibly accurate in my case, explaining ur vulnerabilities (when the situation calls for it such as giving a close friend a pep talk) is inspiring to others, however when it comes to competitors or authorities, it's good for them to at times think u have no limits and ur coming for them next lol
ISFJ here! The risk taking part really did come off to me as accurate because whenever I view a problem, I'd rather go for the options that give me the least inconveniences. This is also partly because I hate having to rely on luck as personally, it never works whenever I try to call upon it. Another ISFJ Blindspot that I think exists though is centered on how we think everyone needs our opinion on what we think is best when what they really needed was just support. This becomes a major problem if the ISFJ realizes it too late and the other person already started to feel "lectured" rather than "helped"
I think for the second paragraph, the solution would be the gauge if the person wants Fe or Ti solutions. A person that listens and accepts, or someone that gives it to them straight. Usually I found a combination of both supportive/accepting yet still honest is a fantastic combo
I'm INTP. My wife describes me as a cross between Sheldon Cooper and Mr Spock. I understand emotions and have learned to recognise them and respond as required (usually). What I have yet to understand is their point. They simply get in the way.
Thank you for this reminding Nathan - as an ISTJ, through watching your videos, i am aware of the Tendency of Availability. Therefore, building a system from scratch is a thing that take me decades to do. Right now when my ESTJ dad is still leading the company, and i’m going with the Incremental development approach. But in the future, if things cannot be the same, and i need to start to move to some new working place and adapt everything again, i know it’s never be easy for me but a needed thing to do in life. Thank you Nathan for this powerful video 🙏☺️
I'm an INFJ, and I was really curious to hear what the insight would be for my personality type. Have to say, you hit the nail on the head! Being direct and straight-forward is definitely a weakness. I think part of the challenge is that we often want to give a *full* or *complete* answer or explanation to things -- almost a comprehensive one -- when it is often not necessary to that extreme. In our efforts not to "miss" anything or "leave anything out", we end up overwhelming those we are talking with... and ironically, they end up losing most of our intended message anyways, precisely because they get lost and turned around in the lengthiness of it. So I agree, we do tend to shoot ourselves in the foot this way.
Analyzing the video, I see that for most it is a challenge to tip the balance a little bit away from the hero function and towards the inferior function. I have read somewhere that improving our inferior function is a step towards maturity and I do agree.
...are you going to avoid the verb "to feel" altogether because you're a T type? Everyone thinks and everyone feels. Being bothered by this word in a sensible context like here doesn't sound very logical, and besides wasn't Nathan a Thinking type also?
Incredibly poignant material, thank you! As an INTP, embarrassingly, when I know that someone is wrong about something important (eg at work, I work in hospital care), I don’t know many other people than myself who then can tear down their argumentation piece by piece, deliberately, paced, cold-hearted, while watching the person in question in a progressive, intense emotional state of shock.
I don't agree with your statement that the blind spot of an INFJ is straightforwardness. I am rather impatient, directive and sometimes blunt. So I can be straightforward when it is required in a situation. Do you have any other blindspot for an INFJ in mind ?
ISTJs are poor judges of characters and take the side of bullies within organizations. Such a shame because otherwise I’d love working with them. -INTP
I've had people tell me all my life that I'm complicating or over-thinking everything. Judge Judy's "Keep it simple, Stupid" is one of my favorite quotes , but I have some trouble adhering to that myself. Spot-on
INTP here and i literally like to help ppl and support even emotional stuff if it makes sense logically(like helping the poor) but i mock ppl that say stuff based on emotion that have no sense logically
I have ISTP boyfriend and i don't remember him asking for help. He usualy doesn't let me do my work and does it for me no metter if i asked for this or agree to his actions. It sometimes is annoying since i belive in "You want somethig done right, you have to do it yourself."
I always thought that INTP would disgard emotion when it comes to an abusive environment as it keeps them in check and not do anything rash like resulting to physical violences
Valuing and tending to emotions does not at all equate to acting rashly. In fact, people with neglected, poorly managed emotions are more likely to have those kinds of outbursts. But this is more likely to happen with people like Te-doms or Se-doms than with INTPs, who are relatively mindful/self-controlled and not very physical people. As an INFP who grew up in an abusive environment, my Fi skills were extremely valuable for managing my feelings while navigating that chaotic environment and for maintaining my own sense of identity, self-worth, and inner compass regardless of the amount of manipulation, gaslighting, and disparagement I was subjected to - and for finding beauty and meaning even in the darkest of times.
@@multitudesreplyaccount3163 huh I never saw Fi in that light. That's very cool, it's true that if you are in touch with your inner compass you probably have an easier time than others to determine if what's being done to you is right or wrong, so you're able to preserve your self-worth because there is no confusion with what actions are wrong/right, so you avoid common traps like self-blame when being gaslighted. INFPs just intuitively understand integrity (their own integrity and if others are also being consistent)
I am an INTP who would repress my emotions (or not acknowledge them, or not know what they were or why) and then explode later when things became too much. Paying more attention to my emotions and doing the appropriate action when they happen has helped a lot. It's more about managing emotions, or allowing emotions to be a sort of guide, rather than control or try to push away the emotions. Accept the emotions (yuck) but anyway, it works. I don't make ANY life or long term decisions based on emotions though. Emotions are fleeting, so the decisions based on emotions should be something that is not permanent. Emotions are for in the moment decisions; what do I need to do RIGHT NOW? What is the healthy thing I need to do right now, based on how I'm feeling? Drink water, eat food, walk away, go for a walk, rest, etc. I now see emotions as an indicator of what kind of self care I might need to do at the moment.
The moment I read the word I knew exactly what you were going to say. "There are consequences for people thinking that you're a villain, perfectly **avoidable** consequences."
Now I know why you were asking about Ne blindspot, but since this is not socionic..hmm I didn't understand the ISFP blindspot, I do relate to ISTP though so I'm a bit confused 🤔 good job, Nathan!
I took a fourth mbti test. And I went from INTJ to ISTJ. I don't know who I am or how to act, I might be overthinking, but this is a such a HUGE step from intj to istj!! I'm lost, very very very lost.
INFP here When it comes to reality being mundane this not completely true. It just doesn't live up to my expectations. I can enjoy small things when they're in my frame of interest... like nature. Now my expectations have to do with grand ideas and desires. I definitely understand the getting high off ideas. I live in a world where I go out wanting said thing to happen and it doesn't. I get caught up in the big picture show of life. What's in my head is the way I want it to be and in my heart need it to be. This is mostly in the relational realm. There have been to many times I have gotten myself to worked up over my dreams. There have been to many times I have sacrificed my dreams over people and circumstances. I plan what my life will look like on a timeline and expect it to be. I'm a dreamer not a doer. I'm a visionary that has a hard time seeing what's in front of them. I lack the skill to pull things apart to see every step. Such is my life
I totally agree. I actually struggle more with knowing when to trust my gut compared to being straightforward. I guess I have matured more in a certain area then.
Enfp. Best business advice for every enfp out there is to hire someone to execute it. If you dont have the capital, you can easily earn and save. Earning is way easier than being consistent with mundane tasks.
I feel the ISFP one a lot. I actively reject, find no significance in material things when younger. Much more in love with ideas and how things should be. Was mistyped as INFP because of this. But jumping through hoops is inevitable, so might as well get used to the idea, or better yet, jump through hoops on YOUR terms, if that makes sense. Just to appease the Fi
isfp here and I fear we are all gonna run out of available forest to live in 😅 on another note: I got to a point where the hoops ended up almost suffocating me and the race didn't bring me closer to the place I needed to be to soothe my inferior Te. Only after realizing that, I came to terms with the fact that I need to compromise and work with what I've got, and it actually did wonders for my mental health.
Lol Jokes on you suckas! I'm an ENTJ and I have worked very hard on being more vulnerable and open about my mistakes! It's a lot of hard work ,but I can say I am getting better and better. I strive to be the best version of myself including handling my emotions. I strive for it because I want to be the best me for the people I love! To be more aware of how i can come across and how it can hurt them.
My Ex-GF was an ISFP and I'm an ENTP. You have no idea how idealistic and uncompromising she is, especially when it comes to her personal values. Good thing weren't now together, but it was indeed a rocky experience.
I tell people all the time I can play politics, I just find it all an aggravating waste of time. Time that could be used actually doing crap. Frustrated the hell out of any office staff I worked with.
I've been pretty dismissive of some people's perceptions of feeling in the past. I feel kinda bad for it. I sometimes become conflicted with not understanding how someone would feel a certain way if there are no reasons to.🛌
the enfj one made me lol...i know an enfj and this is exactly what i see. also intj was definitely heartfelt and it can be a struggle as ppl enjoy our able to "see" yet criticize for the way we "look". i still strategize how best to handle this blind spot and so far, for all the types, really we must have psychological safety to use our talents and that those talents also mirror weakness. through personality study, i've learned and decided that i want to identify a person's strengths, understand the corresponding weakness that can be the other side to that, and know that accepting both is the right path forward
ENTP here : I recently had an ENTP epiphany about myself. And I have to say I am greatly disappointed in my sorry ass for being so predictable, and oblivious to the nature of Si. But what Si inferior does to me is : I can't accept the simple concept of "necessity". People in varying aspects of my life would tell me "You need to do X", "This project requires Y", "We'd better have Z beforehand." And my gut reaction to any sort of ...it's not exactly planning, it's really the expression of "Necessity", there's no other words. My reaction to it "What if, actually no ? What if I can replace the most crucial component to this by something else" And I end up "reinventing the wheel" as you said it. I realized this listening to some podcast about environmental issues and the necessity of switching to green energy. And I think my aspiration in every aspect of life is to ... well break down everything to its rawest components and find the better, more durable alternative to it.
I enjoyed this video very much, but i admit i was expecting something related to the 7th functions of the types. I think it would be very interesting to analyse how the blindspots act in every mbti type.
10:27 So true, David Lynch I believe is a great example of this. The term "Lynchian," which was of course inspired by his movies, is about finding an otherworldly side to the bland and mundane.
